MARIO. OKAY ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE PROSPER TOWN COUNCIL MEETING. TODAY IS
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TUESDAY, AUGUST 27TH, 2024. AND IT IS 6:17 P.M. THIS MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. CITIZENS AND OTHER VISITORS ATTENDING TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS SHALL OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL. ANY PERSON MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL OR WHILE ATTENDING THE MEETING, SHALL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM. IF SO, DIRECTED BY THE MAYOR OR PRESIDING OFFICER, AND THAT PERSON SHALL BE BARRED FROM FURTHER AUDIENCE BEFORE THE COUNCIL DURING THAT SESSION.DISRUPTION OF A PUBLIC MEETING COULD CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF SECTION 42.05 OF THE TEXAS PENAL CODE. WITH OUR CALL TO ORDER IS THE NEXT ITEM AND WE HAVE WITH US OUR MAYOR PRO TEM RAY, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BARTLEY. COUNCIL MEMBER HODGES. COUNCIL MEMBER. REEVES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KERN AND COUNCIL MEMBER ANDRUS. SO WE HAVE OUR FULL COMPONENT AT THIS TIME. I'D ASK GREG JONES OF ROCK CREEK CHURCH TO PROVIDE OUR INVOCATION, AND THEN WE WILL FOLLOW WITH OUR PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE. AND I'M GOING TO ASK ANEESH SOMASUNDRAM TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WHEN WE'RE DONE. SO THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WOULD YOU JOIN ME IN PRAYER? HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH GRATEFUL AND SINCERE HEARTS. JUST GRATEFUL FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU'VE GIVEN US HERE AS CITIZENS OF PROSPER. LORD I JUST LIFT UP THE TOWN COUNCIL TONIGHT. I PRAY THAT YOU GUIDE THEM WITH WISDOM AS THEY DELIBERATE THE ISSUES BEFORE THEM. GOD, I ALSO PRAY TONIGHT FOR A SPIRIT OF UNITY IN THIS ROOM AND THAT ANY DEBATE THAT'S NECESSARY WILL BE HEALTHY. DEBATE GOD AND THAT THE COUNCIL WON'T SEE OBSTACLES BEFORE THEM, BUT OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAVE PLACED BEFORE THEM FOR THE GOOD CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND GOD. AGAIN, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE FOR OUR TOWN AND GOD AS YOU DO SO. MAY WE BE MINDFUL THAT THE ONLY REASON THAT PROSPER IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE IS BECAUSE OF YOUR PRESENCE HERE, FOR YOUR GLORY, FOR OUR GOOD, AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. IT'S IN JESUS NAME I PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE A BOY SCOUT WITH US TODAY. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AND LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS FLAG. AND CAN YOU DO THE TEXAS OR THE AMERICAN FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO AMERICAN FIRST OR AMERICAN FIRST? ALL RIGHT. I I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE BE SEATED. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBER REEVES TO READ
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OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS. GOOD EVENING. JOIN US. JOIN US FOR A PUBLIC TOWN HALL MEETING REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025. PRELIMINARY BUDGET ON ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 29TH AT 6 P.M.IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. TOWN STAFF WILL PROVIDE A PRESENTATION AND WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THOSE UNAVAILABLE TO ATTEND MAY WATCH IT LIVE AT PROSPER. GOV.
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JOIN US ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH AT 9 A.M. FOR A DAY OF REMEMBRANCE. THE COMMUNITY EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE AT PROSPER FIRE RESCUE CENTRAL STATION, LOCATED AT 911 SAFETY WAY, CARTER BLOODCARE WILL BE ON SITE FROM 7:30 A.M. TO 6 P.M. FOR ANYONE WISHING TO DONATE. AND FINALLY, THE PROSPER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS HOSTING THE NEXT PROSPER EXCHANGE ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH AT 6 P.M. THE TOPIC, THE ROLE OF THE EDUCATIONAL POLICY WILL EXPLORE VITAL ISSUES FACING THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM. THERE IS NO FEE TO ATTEND, BUT RESIDENTS ARE
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ASKED TO REGISTER BY VISITING PROSPER EDC.COM. THANK YOU. CAMERON. JUST A FOLLOW UP ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. DOCTOR BRADLEY, WITH THE ISD WILL BE ONE OF THE PRESENTERS. SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD SESSION IF YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY. I'D JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME ON OUT TO HEAR THIS. ANY OTHER TOPICS THAT OR ANNOUNCEMENTS TO SHARE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ITEMS[CONSENT AGENDA]
PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE IN NATURE AND NONCONTROVERSIAL. THE CONSENT AGENDA CAN BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND NON-CONTROVERSIAL. ROUTINE PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS WHERE THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION AND WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. NO COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING. ALSO MAY BE ACTED UPON DURING THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL MEMBERS OR STAFF. AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AND I'VE ALREADY INFORMED THE TOWN MANAGER OF SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED IN THERE, SO I NEED TO REMOVE AND BRING IT FORWARD TO A FUTURE AGENDA OR. GIVE ME A CALL BACK. MY SECOND QUESTION IS A. OKAY, BUT HOLD ON. OH GO AHEAD, TERRY, ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, IT'S REALLY JUST TO REMOVE THE WORD CITY OR CITY COUNCIL TO TOWN COUNCIL. SO I THINK IT'S MORE JUST A MINOR CHANGE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BRING IT TO ANOTHER MEETING. I THINK WE CAN DO THAT WITH THIS ONE. SO YOU. RIGHT? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WANT THAT ONE. WHAT IS THA? I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE. AND MARIO, DO YOU WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED. DURING THE WORK SESSION? YES. I THINK 1011 STILL ARE. 1011 REMAIN. I THINK 10 OR 11 ARE STILL VALID, SIR. IT WOULD BE THE ONES ON REGULAR AND THE REGULAR MEETING. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS WOULD LIKE TO PULL AN ITEM? OKAY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE AND FIVE THROUGH 11. SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT.I HAVE MOTION FROM AMY BARTLEY. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY CAMERON REEVES. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. YEAH ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS JUST IT. IT MISNAMES THE TOWN. IF WE COULD MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT, I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW YOU WANT TO DO THAT. JUST MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE NAME TO TOWN OF PROSPER IN ALL AREAS IN THAT DOCUMENT. AND THEN WITH THAT, WE CAN APPROVE MOTION TO APPROVE WITH SUBJECT TO THE MINOR CORRECTIONS OF THE SAME WORDING. SO IF I GET SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION LIKE THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR WITH THE CHANGES TO THE TOWN WITH THE SUGGESTED CHANGES. ALL RIGHT. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION FROM JEFF HODGES. SECOND BY MARCUS RAY. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALSO THANK YOU VERY
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MUCH. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'LL MOVE TO CITIZEN'S COMMENTS. I DO HAVE THREE CITIZEN'S COMMENTS. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC. HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL IS UNABLE TO DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. PLEASE COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST FORM AND PRESENT IT TO THE TOWN SECRETARY. PRIOR TO THE MEETING. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. IF MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS WISH TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC, THEY MAY YIELD THEIR THREE MINUTES TO ONE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTED TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. ALL INDIVIDUALS YIELDING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AT THE MEETING, AND THE APPOINTED INDIVIDUAL BE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. I WILL GO THROUGH THE THREE THAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, AND WE WILL START WITH, MR. JACK DIXON. HOW DOES THIS WORK? READ IT. MR. DIXON, WELCOME. JACK DIXON, TEN LONGLEY COURT. OF COURSE. PROSPER, TEXAS. MY TOWN. CITY MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M OUT AT FRONTIER PARK MOST DAYS IN THE MORNING, AND I'VE NOTICED, REALLY, WHAT I CONSIDER A SAFETY ISSUE. SO THESE ARE MY COMMENTS. I'VE NOT TALKED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. THE POLICE OR ANYBODY LIKE THAT. SO THESE ARE MY COMMENTS TOWARDS THE SAFETY ISSUE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, IN THE MORNING WE HAVE PASSENGER CARS, GOLF CARTS TURNING INTO, BRIDGEWATER TO GET TO BOYER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THIS IS DURING THE TIME FRAME WHEN THERE'S MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF[00:10:06]
TRAFFIC. BOTH DIRECTIONS ON FRONTIER PARK, A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES, A LOT OF PASSENGER VEHICLES. AND I THINK IT'S A RISK FOR THESE PEOPLE GOING INTO THE BOYER. AND I'LL ELABORATE ON THAT IN A MINUTE, 1461 IS A FOUR LANE EAST WEST PARKWAY WITH A POSTED SPEED LIMIT OF 45 MILES AN HOUR. THAT'S GOING 45 MILES AN HOUR WHEN IT HIT BRIDGEWATER. GOING INTO BOYER ELEMENTARY, DURING THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING, WE HAVE PEOPLE MAKING LEFT TURN LANES INTO BOYER. WE HAVE SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS CROSSING, 1461 IN GOLF CARTS.HOPEFULLY THEY'RE STREET LEGAL AND, I JUST THINK THIS IS A REAL SAFETY CONCERN THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR KIDDOS AFTER SCHOOL. IT'S THE SAME EXACT THING. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. PEOPLE PICKING UP THEIR KIDS FROM SCHOOL, BOTH THROUGH, FRONTIER PARK PASSENGER VEHICLES. AND THAT, BRIDGE FOR WATER DOES HAVE A 20 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT IMMEDIATELY WHEN YOU TURN INTO IT. SO THERE IS A SCHOOL ZONE FOR BRIDGEWATER. AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT A SCHOOL ZONE ON 1461 TO PROTECT BOTH THE CARS TURNING IN AND THE GOLF CARTS GOING ACROSS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S A SCHOOL SPEED ZONE OR TRAFFIC LIGHTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE MY CONCERN ABOUT THE SAFETY. NOW, GOLF CARTS ARE NOT MY FAVORITE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION, SO I'M REALLY AGAINST THEM, BUT MY LEGS ARE PROSPER HOMEOWNERS, USE THEM A BUNCH TO GET THE KIDS FROM LAKES TO PROSPER ACROSS 1461 TO BRIDGEWATER TO BOYD ELEMENTARY. AND I JUST HATE TO THINK OF THE RESULTS. IF A CAR GOING 45 MILES AN HOUR ON 1461 ACCIDENTALLY HIT A GOLF CART, THE RESULTS WOULD BE TERRIBLE. AND I'M JUST WANT TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION. I HAVE NOT TALKED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. I HAVE NOT TALKED TO TRAFFIC, SO I DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST MY OBSERVATION OF SOMETHING. I THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CAREFULLY LOOK AND ADDRESS AT SOME FUTURE TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. DIXON.
ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. BRUCE CARLIN. BRUCE. TOWN COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO BACK OFF THIS THING A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TO SPEAK HERE. CAN YOU TURN THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE, BEFORE I DROWN EVERYBODY OUT? I DON'T NEED A MICROPHONE ANYWAY, AND I DON'T NEED THAT PHONE GOING OFF. SORRY TRASH. I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE DRAG STRIP. PROSPER INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY THERE BETWEEN PRESTON AND SADDLE CREEK, AS WELL AS THE TRUCK TRAFFIC, THE SEMI TRAFFIC ON PROSPER TRAIL. I BOUGHT THAT HOUSE 20 YEARS AGO. MY WIFE SAID, DON'T BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO A LITTLE TWO LANE ROAD. IT'LL BE A ROAD ONE DAY. AND I DIDN'T LISTEN VERY WELL. SO FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR HELP ON PROSPER TRAIL TO SLOW DOWN THE TRUCK TRAFFIC. I NEED HELP. IT'S LOUD. IT'S 24 HOURS A DAY. THE SEMI TRUCKS ARE A LOT OF TIMES OVER THE ROAD TRUCKS. THEY HAVE OPEN MUFFLERS AND WE CAN HEAR THEM THROUGH THE NIGHT. I KNOW YOU CAN'T SLOW DOWN OR STOP THE BOX TRUCKS. THE 20 600 0 POUND VEHICLES THAT NEBRASKA FURNITURE MART OR LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT WOULD DRIVE AND I WOULD NOT EXPECT YOU TO.
PEOPLE NEED TO GET THEIR DELIVERIES, BUT IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL IF WE CAN STOP OR CURTAIL THE TRUCKS. THEY'RE CLIMBING THE HILL, COMING OUT OF THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. GRAVEL TRUCKS, ALL KINDS OF THEM. SURPRISINGLY I DON'T SEE MANY OF THE, BMC TRUCKS BUILDERS. FIRST SOURCE I THINK YOU GUYS HAD HAD ADDRESSED THAT WITH THEM, AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD. I DON'T SEE THEM VERY MUCH AT ALL, BUT I SEE PEOPLE COMING DOWN. I SEE TRUCKS COMING DOWN PROSPER OR PRESTON ROAD AND TURNING, AND WE JUST NEED TO GET THAT. IF WE COULD SLOWED DOWN OR REMOVED. I KNOW WE PASSED AN AN ORDINANCE AT ONE TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET THAT IF WE COULD START IT UP AGAIN AND THEN PLEASE DISREGARD MY, COMMENT ABOUT THE PROSPER INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY. IT'S JUST THAT I'M AT THE END OF THE QUARTER MILE FROM PRESTON TO THE HILL. SO WE GET THAT QUITE OFTEN. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I HOPE WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. BRUCE ALRIGHT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ANISH. AND IF YOU'D COME
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FORWARD, PLEASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LEADING US IN OUR PLEDGES. SO I'M ANISH. I LIVE IN 101601 SANTA FE LANE OFF TEXAS. SO AS IF YOU KNOW I LIVE IN FRONTIER ESTATES AND ACROSS THAT IS CAMBRIDGE ESTATES. WHENEVER I EITHER WANT TO CROSS THE SITE OR WHENEVER I WANT TO CROSS THE COMMUNITY TO GET INTO THE OTHER COMMUNITY, OR JUST TO GET TO MY SCHOOL, I THERE'S NO SIDEWALK THERE. IT'S TOO DANGEROUS FOR ME AND MY FELLOW FRONTIER ESTATE MEMBERS TO CROSS THE STREET WITHOUT NO SIDEWALK. SO I'D BE GREATLY APPRECIATED IF YOU WOULD BUILD A SIDEWALK FROM FRONT TO YOUR ESTATES TO CAMBRIDGE ESTATES ON COLEMAN PRESTON INTERSECTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, I'LL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.007 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL FOR ITEMS LISTED AS PUBLIC[12. Conduct a public hearing to consider and act upon an ordinance amending Article 2, Division 13 – Multifamily District; Article 4, Division 4, Section 4.4.3 – Non-Residential and Multifamily Parking Provisions; and Article 4, Division 8 - Non-Residential & Multifamily Design and Development of the Town of Prosper Zoning Ordinance to modify Multifamily development standards. (ZONE-24-0019) (DH)]
HEARINGS WILL BE RECOGNIZED WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ARTICLE TWO, DIVISION 13 MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT. ARTICLE FOUR. DIVISION FOUR. SECTION 4.4.3 NON RESIDENTIAL AND MULTIFAMILY PARKING PROVISIONS IN ARTICLE FOUR. DIVISION EIGHT NON RESIDENTIAL AND MULTIFAMILY DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE TOWN OF PROSPER. ZONING ORDINANCE TO MODIFY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. MR. HOOVER. THANK YOU. MAYOR AS YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER, WHICH BUTTON AM I SUPPOSED TO PUSH? I'M SORR. THERE WE GO. SO I REMEMBER WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 23. IT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE MULTIFAMILY ORDINANCE WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THEY APPROVED THEM UNANIMOUSLY. AND WE CAME TO THE COUNCIL ON THE 14TH OF 20. EXCUSE ME, 25TH OF 14TH OF NOVEMBER OF 23 WAS TABLED TO DECEMBER THE 12TH. AND THEN IT WAS TABLED TO JANUARY 9TH, WHERE IT WAS TABLED INDEFINITELY. PRIMARY REASON I BELIEVE, WAS THERE WAS SOME CONCERN AND I THINK VALID CONCERN. A COUPLE OF THE ISSUES THAT THAT WERE LISTED IN THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT THERE WAS CONCERN MIGHT LEAD TO UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND WHICH IN SOME CASES MIGHT MAKE THINGS WORSE THAN THEY WERE. AND SO WE PULLED IT, DISCUSSED IT INTERNALLY AT THE STAFF LEVEL.HAD IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE BEFORE WE BROUGHT IT BACK. AND THEN WE HAD A SUBSEQUENT WORKSHOP WITH THE COUNCIL, WE WERE REQUESTED TO BRING IT BACK WITH THE REVISIONS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD WOULD HELP THOSE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS. AND WE DID. SO WE WENT BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON AUGUST THE 20TH WITH THE NEW TWO ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO OUR ORDINANCE AND THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE COUNCIL. NOW, SPECIFICALLY, WHAT THOSE TWO PRIMARY MODIFICATIONS WERE, ONE IS TO REMOVE THE SPECIFIC DENSITY REQUIREMENT. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WITH GOING TO WITH ALL OF THE OTHER PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT STYLE OF APARTMENTS. WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE GARDEN STYLE OR WHAT WE REFERRED TO AS WALKUP APARTMENTS ANYMORE. SO THERE WOULD TEND TO BE MORE STORIES, THE HIGHER STOREYS WOULD INCREASE THE DENSITY BECAUSE THE FOOTPRINTS WOULD STILL BE RELATIVELY THE SAME.
BUT AS YOU ADDED EACH FLOOR, YOU WIND UP WITH ANOTHER LEVEL OF APARTMENTS. AND SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT 40 UNITS TO AN ACRE, MAYBE 50 UNITS TO AN ACRE IS EVEN A REFERENCE, I THINK OF POSSIBLY 60 UNITS TO AN ACRE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT A RECOMMENDATION, JUST REFERENCES.
AS FAR AS DISCUSSIONS ARE CONCERNED. SO WE BELIEVE THAT THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE WAS JUST TO REMOVE THE SPECIFIC DENSITY REQUIREMENT COMPLETELY. REASON FOR THAT IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WAS THAT ALL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS WOULD
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HAVE TO BE IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, OR A PD IN THE PD SAYS WE'D BE ABLE TO SET WHATEVER THAT DENSITY WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO THE LOCATION AND THE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, AND SO THAT WAY EACH ONE WOULD BE CATERED, WHICH IS PART OF THE PURPOSE TO PLAN DEVELOPMENTS IN THE FIRST PLACE IS THAT EACH DEVELOPMENT AND EACH INSTANCE WOULD BE CATERED SPECIFICALLY TO THE LOCATION. THE SECOND MODIFICATION THAT WE ADDED IS THERE ARE TWO, AREAS, SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE MULTIFAMILY IS ALREADY ALLOWED AS PART OF THE PD THAT THEY ARE IN. THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT THEY'RE IN, AND THEY'RE OLDER AND THEY HAVE FAR LESS REQUIREMENTS THAN WHAT THE NOT ONLY ARE NEWER REGULATIONS, BUT THESE PROPOSED REGULATIONS HAVE THEY ARE LIMITED TO THE 18 UNITS PER ACRE. BUT THAT IS ABOUT IT. AND SO THE CONCERN WAS IF WE REMOVE THE SPECIFIC DENSITY REQUIREMENT THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD ALLOW THOSE TWO THAT ARE LISTED WITH THE 18 OR EXCUSE ME, RESTRICTED WITH THE 18 UNITS PER ACRE, IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO POTENTIALLY GET MORE. AND SO BY PUTTING IN THIS THIS SECOND CONDITION, IT STATES THAT IF THERE IS A PD THAT IS IN EXISTENCE THAT THESE NEW MODIFICATIONS AND AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE DON'T AFFECT, THEN WHATEVER REGULATIONS WERE IN PLACE AT THE TIME THAT PD WAS APPROVED WOULD BE THE ONES THAT COUNTED. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE GOBBLEDYGOOK, BUT IN IN SHORT, WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF THERE WAS A PD THAT WAS PASSED IN 2005, LET'S SAY THAT ALLOWED MULTIFAMILY AND THAT ALLOWANCE WAS FOR 18 UNITS PER ACRE, THEN THAT ORDINANCE AT THE TIME WAS WHERE THE 18 UNITS PER ACRE CAME FROM. SO IF SOMEONE CAME IN, WANTED TO DEVELOP THAT SITE AT THAT PD WITH THOSE MULTIFAMILY, THEN THE MAXIMUM THEY'D BE ABLE TO PUT IN WOULD BE 18 UNITS PER ACRE. IF THEY WANTED TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE PD. IF THE PD WAS AMENDED, THEN ALL OF THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT WERE DISCUSSING BOTH PREVIOUSLY AND NOW WOULD COME INTO PLAY, AND THAT WOULD CAUSE IT TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN THAN WHAT IT WAS. THE REST OF THESE, PROPOSALS THAT WERE IN HERE, THESE ARE THE 12 THAT WERE IN THE MIX THE FIRST TIME WHEN IT WENT THROUGH PNC AND COUNCIL. WE CAN GO OVER ALL OF THESE. IF YOU'D LIKE. IT'S UP TO YOU. BUT THEY'RE ALL THE SAME. THE ONLY CHANGE THAT WE MADE. LET ME FIND IT HERE. AND IT MAY NOT BE IN HERE OR MAY HAVE TO GO TO. OH, HERE WE ARE ON NUMBER SEVEN, AND THE REQUIREMENT WAS FOR A MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURES TO HAVE A RAT GARAGE AND THE WRAPPING IS THE UNITS THEMSELVES THAT HAVE TO HAVE A STRUCTURED GARAGE FOR THE PARKING. BUT THEN THAT STRUCTURE WOULD HAVE TO BE WRAPPED BY THE INDIVIDUAL APARTMENT UNITS. AND THE QUESTION CAME UP AT THE THIS PAST PNC MEETING WHEN THEY APPROVED IT. WHAT IF IT'S A PODIUM STYLE CONSTRUCTION? AND I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE MORE DETAILED THAN YOU CARE ABOUT, BUT THE TYPICALLY THE STRUCTURED GARAGE WITH THE WRAP STYLE IS GENERALLY UP TO ABOUT A FIVE STORY BUILDING. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION, THE WAY THAT THAT THEY'RE BUILT A PODIUM STYLE IS TYPICALLY WHAT IS BUILT IS IT'S OVER FIVE STORIES MORE COMMONLY, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT AND OBVIOUSLY UP. AND SO THE CHANGE WE ADDED JUST A COUPLE OF WORDS, WHICH IN THIS CASE ON THE NUMBER SEVEN IS THE CLADDED TO MATCH THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF IT'S NOT A TRUE STRUCTURED GARAGE, THAT'S INDEPENDENT OF ITSELF AND WRAPPED WITH THE[00:25:07]
UNITS COULD BE A PODIUM STYLE, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE FOUNDATION COMPONENT OF THE BUILDING. BUT WHATEVER. EXCUSE ME, WHATEVER THE SIDING WAS ON THE BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO WRAP ALL THE WAY DOWN AROUND THE PORTION OF THE GARAGE THAT WAS THE THREE, 4 OR 5 STORIES, WHATEVER. SO WHAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE IN BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN DALLAS, YOU SEE HOTELS THAT ARE LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE THE FIRST SEVERAL FLOORS ARE ARE THE GARAGE AND THEN THE UNITS, THE LIVING UNITS ARE ABOVE. AND IN MANY INSTANCES THE FRONT OF THAT TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT IS RETAIL.IT COULD BE RESTAURANTS, IT COULD BE RETAIL, IT COULD BE OTHER TYPES OF USES. SO THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT IN EITHER CASE, WHETHER IT'S THE STRUCTURED GARAGE OR IT'S THE PODIUM STYLE, YOU DON'T SEE THE GARAGE BECAUSE IT'S COVERED BY THE SAME MATERIALS THAT THE REST OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE. AND EXCUSE ME, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY AT THEIR MEETING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THESE. AND AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER THESE, PROPOSALS FROM THE FIRST TIME IT CAME TO YOUR OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO. STAFF OBVIOUSLY RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THEM AS WELL. I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, ONE IS SO LET'S GO TO NUMBER SEVEN FIRST WHERE IT SAYS, AND I THINK IN THE DOCUMENT IT IS FOUR, FOUR, THREE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE PARKING PROVISIONS, WHERE IT SAYS OR ATTACHED GARAGE. KEEP GO BACK. SORRY. YES OR ATTACHED GARAGE. THAT IS CLADDED TO MATCH THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING. COULD THAT BE INTERPRETED TO BE A PARKING GARAGE? THAT'S MAYBE LIKE TO THE SIDE OF. BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE COME THROUGH THAT WERE WILLING TO DO PARKING GARAGES WITH THEIR MULTIFAMILY, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE WRAP. THEY WANTED TO KIND OF SET THE PARKING GARAGE TO THE SIDE. DOES THAT I KNOW YOU SAID IT ALLOWS FOR PODIUM, BUT TO ME THAT CAN BE INTERPRETED TO MEAN THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH THE GARAGE TO THE SIDE AND IT'S REALLY NOT OUR PREFERENCE. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S OKAY. AND THE AND THIS IS, IS KIND OF WHAT I WOULD CALL A CLIFF NOTES VERSION OF WHAT THE MORE DETAILED ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT WE'VE DONE. AND I BELIEVE ME, I BELIEVE THAT IN THE ORDINANCE SECTION, IT WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY SORT OF AS A SECONDARY ANSWER TO THAT, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ALL IN PDS, WE WOULDN'T LET IT HAPPEN ANYWAY IN THE PD, WE'D MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE CLEAR AND WE HAD ELEVATIONS OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHICH IS THE PROCESS THROUGH PD. SO I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD BE CONFUSED ABOUT IT AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO EVEN GET TO AN APPLICATION. SO I WOULD SAY NO. AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS PROBABLY MORE FOR TERRY. SO IN AN OLD PD THERE'S ONE. AND I CAN THINK OF THAT'S FROM 2006. AND IT DOES NOT TALK ABOUT DENSITY AT ALL. SO MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THIS ON THE K LET'S SEE 2.13.
YES K TWO POINT 13.2 K. YES SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO WHATEVER THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS WERE IN 2006. BUT WHAT IF THE PD SAYS SOMETHING LIKE, DENSITY STANDARDS AS DEVELOPMENT AS THE ORDINANCE SAYS OR, OR CAN BE AMENDED? WELL WHAT WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN FOR THEM? WOULD THEY HAVE TO THEN GO BACK IF IT'S IF IT REFERENCES OUR ORDINANCES CURRENTLY AND OR AS AMENDED, DO THEY COME TO THIS OR DO THEY GO BACK TO THEY GO BACK TO WHAT THE STANDARDS WERE THIS SPECIFICALLY CONTROLS AND THOSE PDS WHERE THERE'S NO DENSITY DESIGNATION FOR MULTIFAMILY AND ONLY TWO OF THEM, I THINK I BELIEVE IN THE TOWN. AND THIS MAKES IT CLEAR YOU DON'T YOU CAN'T AVAIL YOURSELF OF THIS PROVISION. YOU GO BACK TO THE DENSITY PROVISIONS THAT WERE IN EFFECT AT THE TIME OF APPROVAL OF YOUR PD. SO BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO DO. THEY WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED EVEN IF THEY WERE 15 UNITS TO THE ACRE WHEN WE PASSED THIS, THEY WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO DO THE STRUCTURED PARKING AND SOME OF THE OTHER PROVISIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE. THIS ONLY REFERS TO THE DENSITY ELEMENT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. AND THOSE TWO THAT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEY'RE SILENT ON VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING. YEAH I'D SAY ONE OF THEM SAYS NO. AND THEN HOWEVER
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MANY ACRES THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE AND IT GENERALLY DOESN'T EVEN STATE THAT IN THE PD, IT JUST SAYS THE 18 UNITS. AND SO THERE'S NOT A TOTAL AMOUNT OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE ALLOWED. IT JUST SAYS 18 UNITS PER ACRE. IF THEY HAVE TEN ACRES THEN IT'S 180 UNITS. BUT ALL THE REST, THE STRUCTURED PARKING, THE CLADDIN, THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, THE CHANGE IN THE PARKING SIZES AND SO FORTH, ALL OF THOSE WOULD APPLY. AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION. I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE IS THERE? DO YOU FEEL THAT THERE'S A NEED STAFF'S OPINION FOR A, MINIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENT? WE HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENT IN THIS FOR EIGHT STORIES. SHOULD WE HAVE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OR DO YOU THINK IT TAKES CARE OF ITSELF WITH THE PARKING GARAGE? YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT ALL DAY SINCE YOUR COMMENT OR YOUR YOUR QUESTION THAT CAME IN, WHICH I APPRECIATE BY THE WAY, I THINK AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S PDS, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARY OR IMPORTANT. I THINK, FOR INSTANCE, AND NOT SINGLING OUT BUT BUT RELATIONSHIP TO THE ARTS DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT. ONE OF THEM WAS LESS THAN FIVE AND THE OTHER ONE WAS MORE THAN FIVE.AND I THINK IN THE CONFIGURATION, I THINK IT WORKED WELL. THAT WAY. AND I'M TALKING FIVE STORIES OF MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE THE, THE ONE ALONG THE CREEK ACTUALLY HAD THE RETAIL AND THE RESTAURANTS AND SUCH ON THE FIRST FLOOR. SO YES, A STORY, IT'S ACTUALLY A STORY AND A HALF BECAUSE IT'S 14FT, BUT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THE MULTIFAMILY WASN'T THE FULL FIVE STORIES. SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S A PD IF WE HAVE THE REQUIREMENT AND THEN A PD COMES IN AND WE WANT TO ADJUST IT, THEN THEN THAT CAN HAPPEN. SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT NOT TO HAVE IT. BUT IF YOU KNOW YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S BETTER TO HAVE ONE, THEN CERTAINLY WE PUT ONE IN. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A CALL FOR YOU AL.
I LIKE DEVELOPERS TO KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. SO IF THEY READ AN ORDINANCE AND IT SAYS THE EXPECTATION IS THAT YOUR MINIMUM HEIGHT IS FOUR STORIES OR FIVE STORIES, BUT YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S GOING TO BE AN A PD. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME AND WITH THE WITH THE WRAPPED GARAGE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO A SMALL PRODUCT ANYWAY. AND WE ALSO HAVE THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE FIRST FLOOR HAS 14 FOOT CEILINGS. IT'S GOT TO HAVE THE RETAIL. SO I THINK FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE IT'D BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE IT WORK AND NOT HAVE AT LEAST 4 OR 5 STORIES. OKAY. SO THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. SO I'M GOING TO PARAPHRASE A LOT OF THAT TO MY LESS DETAILED MIND THAN AMY'S, YOU HAVE ANALYZED ALL OF OUR CURRENT PDS AND ALL EVERYTHING.
AND AS OPPOSED TO WHEN WE FIRST SAW THIS, YOU'RE CONFIDENT THAT THERE IS NO. AND YOU ALSO KNOW THE COUNCIL'S WISHES. THERE'S NO NONE OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT WE WERE AFRAID OF IN ANY OF THE PDS THAT EXIST BY IMPLEMENTING THIS NEW ORDINANCE. YES, SIR. OKAY IT'S BEEN STAFF'S LOOKED AT IT. PANSY'S LOOKED AT IT. OBVIOUSLY, COUNCIL'S LOOKED AT IT. WE'VE HAD ATTORNEY LOOK AT IT AND I FEEL I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT NOT PRETTY VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE'VE GOT ALL THE BINS COVERED. OKAY MARCUS HAS A BRIEF QUESTION TO YOU ON THE REDUCTION OF THE SETBACKS. YOU SAY YOU'VE CONSULTED WITH MR. FIRES WHEN WE WHEN YOU START ERECTING THESE LARGER BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE SETBACKS FOR FIRE AND EQUIPMENT TO GET THROUGH. BUT ALSO WE HAVE THE APPARATUS THAT CAN REACH THE HIGHER FLOORS AND THE GIRTH OF A WRAPPED BUILDING. ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE ALREADY, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY STORIES AND FIRE LANES WILL EITHER BE 24FT OR 26FT WIDE, AND THEY'LL ALSO HAVE RADII THAT ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DEPENDING. BUT AGAIN, IF WE GET EVEN HIGHER STILL FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEN THE PD WILL ALLOW US TO INCREASE THOSE BASED ON WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BELIEVES. FIRE MARSHAL IN PARTICULAR, IS WHO WE DEAL WITH. FIRE MARSHAL AND DEPUTY TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT COVERED. OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY, THEN AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT ONE REAL QUICK. YES, SIR. I THINK YOU MAY HAVE ADDRESSED IT ALREADY WITH REGARD TO THE PODIUM STYLE, I KNOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE LANGUAGE KIND OF, ALLOWING THE FIRST FLOOR, THAT WRAP PRODUCT OR THE PODIUM STYLE
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TO BE, TO BE RETAIL OR SOMETHING STREET ENGAGING, BUT DOESN'T REALLY REQUIRE IT. ARE YOU, ARE YOU KIND OF GOING BACK TO THAT? IT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH A PD ANYWAY, AND THAT'S GOING TO KIND OF COVER THAT OR. YES, THERE'S IN THE, THE REST OF THE, OR IN THE ORDINANCE COMPONENT. AND WE GAVE YOU A, I DIDN'T PUT ALL THE SLIDES UP. I THOUGHT THAT WOULD JUST BE OVERKILL, SO TO SPEAK.BUT IN THE PACKETS THERE'S ACTUALLY A RED LINE VERSION OF WHAT THE OLD CURRENT REGULATIONS ARE AND THEN WHAT THE, THE NEW ONES ARE. AND IN THERE IS WHERE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE 14 FOOT CEILING ON THE FIRST FLOOR IS THAT THE RETAIL IS IN THERE, IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE. I KNOW IT'S DONE IN FRISCO AND PLANO. A COUPLE OF THE OTHER PLACES, AS THE DEVELOPMENT IS OCCURRING.
SOMETIMES THE FIRST FLOOR WILL GET RENTED OUT AS RESIDENTIAL WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO FILL THE BUILDING UP, BUT IT CAN ONLY BE DONE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THEN IT HAS TO REVERT BACK TO THE RETAIL COMPONENT. SO YEAH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTS, IT'S HARD TO MAKE THE RETAIL WORK. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE WITHIN THE PD ITSELF. AS WELL.
SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S A AN ABILITY IN THERE. SO TO SPEAK, TO, TO GET IN BETWEEN THE CRACKS. YEAH. YEAH. MY QUESTION IN FACT WAS FROM THE RED LINE VERSION IN SECTION. OH OKAY, ACTUALLY THAT'S WHAT THE SOURCE OF THE QUESTION WAS. SO. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, GOOD. THANK YOU. YES SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? MR. DIXON? YOU KNOW, I REALLY HATE TO GET UP HERE AND TALK, BUT I HAVE AN EXCEPTION TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, AND THAT'S AN ALLOWANCE FROM THREE STORIES. THE EIGHT STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT SEEMS TO BE LUDICROUS TO ME THAT WE WOULD WANT TO STACK THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ONE AREA, PLUS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 110FT, YOU'RE LIMITING THE SIZE, THE INTERIOR HEIGHT OF THE APARTMENT TO ABOUT TEN FOOT.
AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE 6000 APARTMENTS ON OUR PLANS. SEVEN I UNDERSTAND THAT I HAVEN'T REALLY ACCEPTED IT, BUT IT'S THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW. AND, YOU KNOW, TEN STORY APARTMENTS WILL DO TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE REALLY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GLUT OF APARTMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE MORE VACANT APARTMENTS. I'M JUST I HAVE AN EXCEPTION THERE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. HOOVER, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS OUR THE RATIONALE? I DO SUPPORT THE UP TO EIGHT STORIES I THINK YOU CAN COVER. YOU CAN COVER OUR REASONING FOR THAT A LITTLE BIT.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO EIGHT. NO THAT'S WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS EARLIER OF SETTING A MINIMUM. BUT AND IT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE SOME OF THESE THINGS HAD COME UP THE FIRST TIME BEFORE. NUMBER ONE IS WHERE THE APARTMENTS CAN ACTUALLY THE MULTIFAMILY CAN ACTUALLY GO IN THE FIRST PLACE. THERE'S ONLY THREE LOCATIONS IN TOWN. ONE IS DOWNTOWN BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THEM HERE. ONE IS OBVIOUSLY THE TOLLWAY, AND THE THIRD ONE IS WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS TOWN CENTER, WHICH IS BASICALLY GATES. AND THERE'S ALREADY APARTMENTS THERE. AND SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY THREE PLACES THAT POTENTIALLY NEW MULTIFAMILY COULD GO, AND A COUPLE OF THOSE ARE MAXED OUT IF YOU WILL, FOR THE AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY THAT COULD GO THERE. SO IT WOULD, WOULD AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE SECOND PIECE OF THE PUZZLE, WHICH IT ALL HAS TO BE A PD OR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THE LOCATION IS IMPORTANT IN THAT DECISION FOR THE DOWNTOWN. IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE DECIDED TO PUT SOME MORE DOWNTOWN, EIGHT STORIES IS NOT APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T FIT WITH THE REST OF THE LANDSCAPE, IF YOU WILL, OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THE ONLY PLACE THAT EIGHT STORIES WE BELIEVE STAFF LEVEL THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE WOULD BE ON THE TOLLWAY, AND THAT WOULD BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANY HOTELS OR OFFICE BUILDINGS OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO BOTH. PADERA AND THE ARTS DISTRICT. THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE COME IN THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED ON THE TOLLWAY, AND THEY HAD THE LIMITS OF EIGHT STORIES TOTAL. AND IN
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THE PEREIRA, THE MULTIFAMILY WAS LIMITED TO FIVE BECAUSE IT WAS REMEMBER IT WAS TIERED STARTED WITH THE THREE STORIES AT THE BACK AND THEN FIVE STORIES IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN EIGHT STORIES IN THE FRONT. AND THAT WAS PART. AND THE ARTS DISTRICT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AS FAR AS THE CONFIGURATION IS CONCERNED, BUT WE DON'T ENVISION THERE BEING, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE ROW OF EIGHT STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THE TOLLWAY. IT WOULD HAVE TO FIT APPROPRIATELY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. THANK THANK YOU. YEAH, I BELIEVE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR I'M SORRY. DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? NO. DO DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? MAYOR, I MOVED I MOVED TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ARTICLE TWO, DIVISION 13, MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT FOUR, DIVISION FOUR, SECTION 443 NONRESIDENTIAL. MULTIFAMILY. PARKING PROVISIONS.ARTICLE FOUR DIVISION EIGHT NONRESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE TOWN OF PROSPER ZONING ORDINANCE TO MODIFY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. OKAY.
THANK YOU. GREG, I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY JEFF HODGES? ALL IN FAVOR? THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. HOOVER. THANK YOU, ITEM NUMBER 13. WE ARE GOING TO TABLE, I BELIEVE. AND DO WE NEED TO TABLE THAT TO A FUTURE DATE? I DON'T HAVE A DATE CERTAIN YET. MAYOR, I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME ANALYSIS FROM AN ENGINEER, SO, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE? THIS IS A IS IT A PUBLIC HEARING? WE CAN JUST, POSTPONE IT INDEFINITELY. OKAY THANK YOU. COULD I GET A MOTION TO TABLE? ITEM NUMBER 13, MOTION. MOTION BY MARCUS RAY, SECOND BY CAMERON REEVES. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT MOTION PASSES
[14. Discuss and consider Town Council Subcommittee reports. (DFB)]
UNANIMOUSLY. ALSO, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14 IS. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TOWN COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS. THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE MET TODAY. CRAIG, IF YOU WANT TO COVER ANY OF OUR COMMENTARY FROM THAT. YEAH. BASICALLY WE WENT OVER THE HTML KIND OF DOCKET OF I THINK THERE'S 113 ITEMS, BUT ABOUT MAYBE HALF OF THOSE APPLIED TO PROSPER. AND WE KIND OF REALLY NARROWED THAT DOWN TO REALLY SOME KEY PRIORITIES, MAYOR, WHICH I KNOW THAT YOU ARE, YOU'RE WELL ACQUAINTED WITH. AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE REALLY SETTING THE ROADMAP FOR THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IN THE NEXT SESSION. AND THEN REALLY A STRATEGY FOR HOW WE'D LIKE TO APPROACH THOSE. OKAY. THANK YOU, DOWNTOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, DID THEY MEET MET LAST WEEK. DID THEY? YEAH. IT WAS BASICALLY, WE TOOK JUST THE NEXT STEP IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE MONUMENTATION PLAN, INCLUDED SOME ESTIMATES ON THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THEY'RE FINE TUNING THOSE, AND THOSE WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL. I WOULD I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS MEETING. SO IT'S PROBABLY NEXT MEETING. I DON'T KNOW MARIO, IF YOU KNOW THAT ONE. BUT, THAT WAS THE MAIN THING THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST TIME. OKAY. AND THEN, CIP MEETING IS TOMORROW, SO YOU'LL HAVE A REPORT ON THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. WITH THAT, OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS TO POSSIBLY DIRECT STAFF TO SCHEDULE TOPICS FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE MEETING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE SOMETHING THEY'D LIKE TO BRING UP? SO THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR WE ALWAYS DISCUSS THIS, AND THAT IS DEAD TREES AND PLANT MATERIAL THROUGHOUT TOWN, EITHER IN DEVELOPMENTS AND ON OUR OWN PROPERTY. SO JUST WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND FROM STAFF WHAT OUR TIMELINE IS ON THAT AND WHAT WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO NOTIFY LANDOWNERS OF TREES, REPLACEMENT THAT IS NEEDED AND THEN WHAT THEIR TIME FRAME IS TO GET THAT DONE. OKAY, ASSUMING THIS FALL.THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MARIO, DID YOU HAVE AN ITEM YOU'D LIKE TO BRING UP? YES, SIR. MAYOR I DO, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEWEST MEMBER OF OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM, TONY LUTON. LUTON. EXCUSE ME. IF HE CAN COME UP, JUST SAY A SAY HELLO AND INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO THE COUNCIL. HE'S BEEN ON THE JOB ALL OF SEVEN DAYS. YEAH, AND HE'S ACTUALLY WORKING OVERTIME BEING AT COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT, SO WELCOME, WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN GREAT. AS MARIO SAID, IT'S ONLY BEEN SEVEN DAYS, BUT EVERYONE HERE HAS BEEN VERY WELCOMING. TO HELP ME GET ACCLIMATED. AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE FOR THE TOWN OF PROSPER AND LOOKING FORWARD TO EVERYTHING THAT'S HERE TO COME. GREAT. THANK YOU. WE'RE GLAD. GLAD TO HAVE YOU. YES. THANK YOU. IT'S TIME TO MEET ALL OF YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE. I
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WON'T TRY TO TAKE ALL YOUR TIME UP NOW, BUT I DO LOOK FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WELCOME, IT'S NOT REALLY A FUTURE ITEM, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE A TO COMPLIMENT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TEAM, SPECIFICALLY CHIEF LARSEN GAME. FOR SOME EFFORTS THAT TOOK PLACE OVER THE WEEKEND, WAY MORE THAN A PUBLIC DISCUSSION, BUT, CHIEF, I APPRECIATE IT. AND, CHIEF KOWALSKI, TO YOUR OFFICERS WHO WERE THERE FOR THAT PARTICULAR EVENT. ALSO, IT'S YOUR DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOTED. AND APPRECIATED IN MANY WAYS. THANK YOU. SO, WITH THAT, THE TOWN COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO CLOSED SESSION IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 551.001 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, AS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, TO DELIBERATE REGARDING SECTION 551.087 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES AND ALL INCIDENTS RELATED AND INCIDENT THERETO. SECTION 5.1.072 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES AND ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED THERETO. SECTION 551.074 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PERSONNEL MATTERS AND ALL MATTERS RELATED THERETO. SECTION 551.089 DELIBERATION OF SECURITY INFORMATION COLLECTED, ASSEMBLED OR MAINTAINED BY AND OR FOR GOVERNMENT ENTITY TO PREVENT, DETECT AND INVESTIGATE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY PURSUANT TO SECTION 2059 .055 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED THERETO. SECTION 551.0712. TO CONSULT WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY REGARDING BFFS REAL ESTATE, LLC, ET AL. VERSUS THE TOWN OF PROSPER ET AL. PENDING IN THE 471ST JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT OF COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS. ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED THERETO AND TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ANTICIPATED LITIGATION REGARDING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS. SECTION 551.074. TO DISCUSS APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF APPEALS. PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, THE LIBRARY BOARD. PROSPER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE, THE DOWNTOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND THE BOND COMMITTEE AND ALL MATTERS
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INCIDENT AND RELATED THERETO.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.