Mar 25, 2026 Planning and Zoning Commission

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EVERYONE'S GOOD. WELCOME. ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE MARCH 25TH, 2026 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING. THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:59 P.M.

PLEASE NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT,ON BLANCHETT, AS HE LET US KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT HE WOULDN'T BE HERE. ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION. CITIZENS AND OTHER VISITORS ATTENDING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS SHALL OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. ANY PERSON MAKING PERSONAL AND PERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION OR WHILE ATTENDING THE MEETING, SHALL BE REMOVED FROM THE FROM THE ROOM, IF SO DIRECTED BY THE COMMISSION OR PRESIDING OFFICER, AND THE PERSON SHALL BE BARRED FROM FURTHER AUDIENCE BEFORE THE COMMISSION. DURING THE SESSION OF THE MEETING, DISRUPTION OF THE PUBLIC MEETING COULD CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF SECTION 42.05 OF THE TEXAS PENAL CODE. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM TWO. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I'D ASK THAT EVERYONE RISE AND TAKE A PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER THREE, AMERICA 250.

TO HONOR THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FOUNDING OF AMERICA. TOWN STAFF WILL BRIEFLY DISCUSS A DIFFERENT TOPIC RELATING TO AMERICAN HISTORY AT EACH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. FROM NOW UNTIL JULY 4TH, WE WILL HAVE THIS ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE TODAY'S FUN FACT. SO BOSTON, AS YOU KNOW, IS KNOWN FOR THE BOSTON TEA PARTY, WHICH HAPPENED IN 1773 AND AFTER WHICH THEY COLONISTS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO GOVERN THEMSELVES. SO ON MARCH 17TH, 1776, BOSTON WAS RECLAIMED BY THE CONTINENTAL ARMY UNDER THE DIRECTION OF GEORGE WASHINGTON. AND ON THIS DAY, MARCH 25TH, CONGRESS AUTHORIZED A GOLD MEDAL TO BE MADE TO HONOR HIM FOR THE VICTORY, AND IT WAS CREATED BY A FRENCH ENGRAVER AND PRESENTED AFTER THE WAR IN 1790. AND NOW IT IS PART OF THE COLLECTIONS OF THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THERE WE GO. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THE AGENDA ITEM FOR I IS THE PRELIMINARY SITE

[4i. Consider and act upon a request for a Preliminary Site Plan for Office/Warehouse Buildings on First Street Business Park, Block A, Lots 1-4, on 63.8± acres, located on the south side of First Street and 1,700± feet east of Dallas Parkway. (DEVAPP-25- 0101)]

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NOW I WILL OPEN TO THE QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE. COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF. YEAH, I'LL START WITH A COUPLE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE THE OPEN SPACE PLAN? THAT HAD ALL THAT GREEN ON IT? I DON'T I KNOW THIS STAGE, BUT HAVE WE CHECKED TO HOW THIS IT OBVIOUSLY COMPLIES RECOMMENDED. BUT HOW HOW CLOSE IS IT TO. IS IT BARE MINIMUM? IS IT ABOVE. IS IT. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE PROVIDE THOSE CALCS AT THIS STAGE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE HOW WE DETERMINED IT WAS IN COMPLIANCE. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF IT WASN'T COMPLIANT, IT WOULD HAVE MADE IT THROUGH DRC. AND OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ISN'T HERE AT THE MOMENT, LANDSCAPE INSPECTOR. BUT. THAT'S A MINIMUM REQUIRED OF A 7%. IN GENERAL, IT DOESN'T FEEL IT FEELS LIKE A PRETTY LARGE PROPERTY WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF OPEN SPACE. AND I KNOW WE DON'T CALL OUT AND I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT WE DO IT THIS WAY. BUT NECESSARILY MEDIANS ARE A PARKING LANDSCAPE. WE KIND OF COVER THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, NOT OPEN SPACE. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY IT FEELS LIKE IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE. SO MAYBE WE CAN JUST DOUBLE CHECK THAT TO MAKE SURE IF IT'S COMPLIES, IT COMPLIES, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE, PARTICULARLY ON THE LEFT SIDE. I THINK MY QUESTION, I KNOW IT BROADLY SPEAKING, EVERYTHING WORKS WITHIN THE ZONING. MY THE BUILDING TO THE BOTTOM LEFT TO ME, I THINK IS A LITTLE CONCERNING. IT'S RIGHT ON THE TOLLWAY AND I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, HOW THIS WORKS WITH THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH THE TOLLWAY AND OR IF THEY SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T. BUT I DEFINITELY HAVE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THAT. I MEAN, I THINK WE COVERED A LITTLE BIT. IT MEETS ALL THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, WAREHOUSE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHATEVER THIS IS CALLED OFFICIALLY DOES MEET ALL THE USES, BUT I THINK THE INTENT OF THAT ALONG THE TOLLWAY IS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT USE. SO HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PARTICULARLY THE TOLLWAY FRONTAGE AND MAYBE HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE? I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. HOOVER. CARSON, IS IT ALL RIGHT IF WE GET THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AND TELL YOU KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE THINKING FOR THAT? YEAH, WE'D APPRECIATE THAT. WELL, I NEED TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND ALL THAT STUFF. DAVID. DOES THE APPLICANT NEED TO STATE THE NAME AND ADDRESS AND EVERYTHING FOR YES OR NO? WELL, CAN YOU DO THAT? WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THEM? HI, I'M WILL MUNDINGER WITH CROW HOLDINGS, 38 AND 19 MAPLE AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75219. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE. I THINK THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS JUST OBVIOUSLY THIS, THIS USE IS A LITTLE A LITTLE CONCERNING IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF PROSPER RIGHT ALONG THE TOLLWAY.

CLEARLY IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE OR MANUFACTURING OR ANYTHING TOO CRAZY, BUT IT DEFINITELY HAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, I CALL IT SEMI TRUCK LOADING, DOCK STYLE PARKING AND, AND LOADING. HAVE WE DONE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TO HOW THAT COULD IMPACT BOTH THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND OR THE FUTURE? GODWIN OR FIRST YES, SIR. THERE'S BEEN A THERE'S A TIA THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH STAFF THAT IS WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER ON.

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CAN YOU DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT? I MEAN, I THINK IN GENERAL WE DON'T YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THIS PRODUCT IN PROSPER INTENTIONALLY, BUT CAN YOU DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THIS PRODUCT WOULD LOOK LIKE, KIND OF MAYBE SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DEVELOPED NEARBY THAT THAT MIGHT BE GOOD EXAMPLES? SURE. SO PROSPER WOULD, IS THE PLANNER MENTIONED WOULD CALL THIS AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD CALL IT AS WELL. THE, THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY. AND THESE EXHIBITS ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE 2D AND WITH NO COLOR BESIDES THE OPEN SPACE. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO TELL EXACTLY HOW THESE BUILDINGS WILL FUNCTION. BUT WHAT WE MIGHT CALL COLLOQUIALLY A FRONT PARK REAR LOAD WAREHOUSE AND THE, THE WHERE THE PARKING, THE OFFICE COMPONENT OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE IN THE FRONT AND THE TRAILER PARKING IS IN THE BACK WITH SCREEN WALLS. AND THE BUILDINGS WILL BE 35FT TALL. SO WITH THE INTENT THAT THE WHAT I WOULD CALL THE BUSINESS END OF THE BUILDING, YOU CAN'T SEE FROM A PUBLIC THOROUGHFARE. THE BUILDINGS ARE SMALLER IN NATURE THAN WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF, OF, OF A LARGE, YOU KNOW, THROUGHPUT WAREHOUSE FACILITY. THESE ARE GENERALLY SMALLER USERS THAT ARE NOT BIG USERS OF SEMI TRUCKS. I CAN'T SAY THAT THEY WOULD NEVER UTILIZE THAT, BUT IT'S NOT A THESE ARE NOT DISTRIBUTION BUILDINGS. THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT. SO I THINK AUTO PARKING IN THE FRONT, LOTS OF LANDSCAPING AND BUILDINGS THAT AS YOU DROVE BY, WOULD FEEL MORE LIKE, YOU KNOW, A VALUE OFFICE BUILDING THAN IT WOULD A WAREHOUSE. THEY'RE VERY COMMON IN THE NORTHERN DFW SUBURBS. IF YOU WANTED TO SEE SOME EXAMPLES, YOU WOULD YOU WOULD HEAD SOUTH FROM PROSPER DOWN PRESTON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 380. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DEVELOPMENTS, THE LARGEST OF WHICH WAS DEVELOPED BY BLUE STAR, ONE OF OUR COMPETITORS, AND ALL THE BUILDINGS ALONG PRESTON ARE IN FRISCO'S PRESTON ROAD OVERLAY. AND SO THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS OR ENHANCEMENTS TO THE BUILDINGS WITH LOTS OF WINDOWS AND PARKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEN THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT JUST SOUTH OF THE BLUE STAR DEVELOPMENT THAT OUR FIRM IS BUILDING IN THE SAME VEIN. SO IF YOU WANTED TO GO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THESE BUILDINGS WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY'RE FINISHED, THOSE ARE TWO REALLY GOOD EXAMPLES THAT YOU CAN GET TO IN A, IN A COUPLE OF MILES. BUT IN THE, YOU KNOW, WAREHOUSE CAN BE A SCARY WORD.

BUT IN THE, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF WHAT WE DO, THESE ARE SMALL TENANTS, FRIENDLY USES AND GET ALONG GREAT WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF NEIGHBORS. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN LAST, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THE, THE, THE OTHER ONE, THAT'S PROBABLY BROADLY THE RIGHT HAND SIDE DOESN'T CAUSE ME AS A CITIZEN, A TON OF CONCERN WITH THAT KIND OF ASSUMPTION THAT YOU JUST GAVE US, WHICH IS HELPFUL. THE ONE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT IS A LITTLE CONCERNING.

IT'S RIGHT ON THE TOLLWAY, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS A WHICH IS A YOUR MAYBE WHAT, 1000FT FROM THE FROM 380 OR WHEREVER. HOW FAR THAT IS KIND OF THE GATEWAY FROM THE SOUTH INTO PROSPER AND TO KIND OF PULL INTO PROSPER AND SEE WHAT FEELS RIGHT ON PRESTON DOESN'T NECESSARILY FEEL RIGHT ON THE TOLLWAY. ARE THERE EXAMPLES, OTHER EXAMPLES SIMILAR TO THIS THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF ALONG THE TOLLWAY? JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO MAYBE MAKING THAT A DIFFERENT USE OR MAYBE CONFIGURING THAT A LITTLE, LITTLE LESS? CALL IT HEAVY OR A LITTLE A LITTLE MORE FRIENDLY. I, I THINK, LISTEN, WE'RE OUR FIRM OR MY DIVISION OF OUR FIRM. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I'M A, I'M AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE DEVELOPER. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT A SITE, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE VISION THAT I SEE IT THROUGH, I WOULD TELL YOU AND, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE TO TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT FOR ME. THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE SMALLEST BUILDING IN THE PARK, THE PORTION OF THAT BUILDING THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE FROM THE TOLLWAY, BECAUSE THE LONG END RUNS ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, THE SOUTHERN DRIVE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A, YOU KNOW, THE EDGE OF A BUILDING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE DRIVING NORTH ON THE TOLLWAY, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE EDGE OF A BUILDING AND A BUNCH OF LANDSCAPING, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE GONE. SO IT'S AND THAT CORNER OF THE BUILDING, LIKE THE REST OF THEM WILL BE LOTS OF GLASS. AND, YOU KNOW, A, THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS WILL BE FOCUSED ON THE CORNERS OF THOSE BUILDINGS. SO IT WILL BE THE,

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SO YOU WOULD HAVE, I WOULD SAY FOR WOULD BE IF I HAD TO GUESS HOW MANY TENANTS WOULD BE THERE, BUT IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE SIX, IT COULD BE TWO. WE DESIGN, YOU KNOW, FLEXIBILITY IS IMPORTANT. SO WE DESIGN THEM TO BE WORKABLE FOR ONE TENANT IN A IN A CONFIGURATION LIKE THIS, WHERE IT'S A LONG, NARROW BUILDING, IT'S NOT AS EFFICIENT FOR A TENANT. AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING. OKAY.

AND I KNOW THAT 120,000FT■!S NORMALLY ISN'T CONDUCIVE FOR A. DISTRIBUTOR. THAT'S NOT THE PLAN HERE. JUST I JUST WANT TO. THAT'S CORRECT, THAT'S CORRECT. I CAN'T THESE BUILDINGS, ALMOST EVERY BUILDING WE BUILD IS SPECULATIVE. SO WE BUILD THESE BUILDINGS EMPTY. AND, YOU KNOW, TENANTS HOPEFULLY COME TO LEASE THEM. SO IT'S A POSSIBILITY. BUT IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE PRETTY UNUSUAL IN IN THIS LOCATION. OKAY. THANKS. WHAT GENERAL IN YOUR DEVELOPMENTS SIMILAR TO THIS, WHAT GENERALLY IS YOUR PERCENTAGE OF OFFICE TO WORK TO WAREHOUSE OR YOU KNOW, FOR A FOR BUILDINGS LIKE THIS, 10% WOULD BE LOW, 20% WOULD BE REASONABLY LIKELY, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE TENANTS IN A PARK LIKE THIS THAT ARE 50% OFFICE. THAT'S THAT'S RARE. YOU KNOW, 10% IS LOW ON THE LOW END, 50% IS HIGH ON THE HIGH END. SO I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, 20, 25% IS GENERALLY WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, THANK I PROBABLY SHARE THE SAME CONCERN WITH THE THE BOTTOM LEFT JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THE ENTRYWAY INTO INTO PROSPER.

IT'S THE FIRST THING YOU SEE. AND TO YOUR POINT IT IS ELEVATED. SO THAT'S, I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE CONCERN FROM I GUESS A FEW OF US UP HERE. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

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BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE DISTANCE IS THOUGH. WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS REX GLENDINNING. YES. REX MAY HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. HE'S THE BROKER FOR FOR MR. GODWIN, AND HE PROBABLY HAS ALL THOSE ANSWERS. OKAY, GREAT. MY NAME IS REX GLENDINNING, 13 267 FM 428. SOLANA, TEXAS. AND I THOUGHT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. SO THERE'S ABOUT 43 ACRES OF THIS. 65 ACRES IS CURRENTLY IN THE FLOODPLAIN, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR ALMOST A YEAR WITH THE TOWN TO, TO, TO GET THAT PROPERTY OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. SO THERE'S A VERY LARGE DRAINAGE CHANNEL THAT RUNS TO THE NORTH OF THAT BUILDING THAT CONSUMES ABOUT 6.5 ACRES, WHICH WILL ALL BE GREENBELT. SO WHEN 10% OF THIS PROPERTY IS AUTOMATICALLY GREENBELT THE DAY YOU BUY IT AND HE'LL HAVE THERE'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 3 OR $4 MILLION SPENT TO TAKE THAT PROPERTY OUT OF THE FLOOD. AND IT'LL BE A DRAINAGE CHANNEL THAT WILL RUN FROM THE TOLLWAY ALL THE WAY BACK TO TAKE ME TO THE RAILROAD TRACK. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A BUFFER, YOU'VE GOT A VERY, VERY LARGE BUFFER THERE. AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP IS THERE'S A LARGE DRAINAGE EASEMENT IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY ON THE TOLLWAY. SO BECAUSE OF ALL THE WATER, IT'S SO FLAT, THEY HAD TO GET A DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT RUNS ALONG GODWIN PARKWAY TO THE TO THE SOUTH OF THESE BUILDINGS, AND THEN ALSO EXTENDS IN FRONT OF THIS BUILDING. SO IT MAKES IT NON-CONDUCIVE FOR RETAIL BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY ON THE TOLLWAY, AND YOU HAVE A SEVEN, EIGHT, 6.5 ACRE DRAINAGE CHANNEL RUNNING TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY. SO IT ALMOST PRECLUDES IT FROM BEING ANYTHING OTHER THAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS. BECAUSE OF THE EASEMENTS AND THE DRAINAGE CHANNEL, ETC. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN. DAVID. IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THE ENGINEERING STAFF HAS SPENT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THE CITY ACCEPTED THE CLOSURE THAT THE CRO GROUP DID. AND AND THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. CAN YOU JUST KIND OF DESCRIBE WHENEVER YOU SAY A DRAINAGE CHANNEL, IS THIS LIKE A CONCRETE DRAINAGE CHANNEL OR.

WELL, I DON'T I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT IT'S AN OPEN DRAINAGE CHANNEL THAT IT'LL BE DRY MOST OF THE YEAR. BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, WHEN IT RAINS HERE, IT THERE'S A LOT OF WATER THAT COMES FROM THE GATES FROM PRESTON. IT ALL COMES UNDERNEATH THE RAILROAD TRACK AND HAS TO GET MAKE ITS WAY TO A PIPE. THERE'S A PIPE RIGHT UNDER THAT AT THE TOLLWAY RIGHT THERE. IT ALL HAS TO GO DIRECTLY TO THAT PIPE. IT'S THE ONLY COMPONENT. IT'S THE ONLY ESCAPE FOR THAT WATER. IS IT THAT EXACT POINT WHERE THAT DRAINAGE CHANNEL HITS THE PIPE THAT GOES UNDER THE TOLLWAY THAT GOES WEST. IT TAKES IT OUT TO OUT TO REALLY WHAT IS DOE BRANCH. AND SO IT, IT HAS TO RUN EAST WEST TO TIE INTO THAT UNDERGROUND, THAT TO THAT PIPE THAT GOES, TAKES IT UNDER THE TOLLWAY THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? NO. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. DENIED FOR ITEM CONSENT. AGENDA ITEM FOUR. I I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM FOUR A, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CARLSON.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DANIEL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND APPROVAL. THANK YOU. IT'S

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CAN HE DO IT FROM BACK THERE? SLASH ONE BACK THERE AND GO TO CONSENT.

GO TO THE CITIZEN COMMENTS SIDE. CAN YOU JUMP BACK THERE. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. CAN YOU JUMP TO AGENDA FIVE BACK THERE FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS. I'M SORRY. OH OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL JUST START READING WHILE WE GET THERE. WE'RE NOW MOVING TO CITIZEN COMMENTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ANY TOPIC. HOWEVER, THE COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA. THOSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION MUST COMPLETE THE PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST FORM LOCATED ON THE TOWN WEBSITE ON THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IF YOU'RE ATTENDING IN PERSON, PLEASE SUBMIT THIS FORM TO THE BOARD CHAIR OR STAFF MEMBER WHEN CALLED UPON, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES IF MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS WISH TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC, THEY YIELD THREE MINUTES TO ONE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTED TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. ALL INDIVIDUALS YIELDING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AT THE MEETING, AND THE APPOINTED INDIVIDUAL WILL BE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY ANYONE IN HERE SUBMITTED ANY? ANYTHING? NOPE. DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO COME AND TALK? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY. SEEING THAT WE HAVE NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

[5. Consider and act upon a request for a Preliminary Site Plan for Office, Restaurant, and Retail Buildings on Frontier Gateway, Block A, Lots 1-12, on 34.6± acres, located on the southwest corner of Dallas Parkway and Frontier Parkway. (DEVAPP-24-0110)]

PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 20 4-0110. AND JUST JUST FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. OH, SORRY. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. THE REGULAR AGENDA. SORRY. THIS IS A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN FOR FRONTIER GATEWAY BLOCKS. YES. OH, SORRY, I NEED TO I'LL NEED TO VOTE TO TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE. I MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE FROM THE TABLE.

SECOND, WE HAVE A WE HAVE A VOTE FROM COMMISSIONER FIORE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE. A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HAMILTON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO APPROVAL. IT'S OPEN. ALL RIGHT, I STATED. THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN FOR FRONTIER GATEWAY. BLOCK EIGHT LOTS ONE THROUGH 12. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS BLOCKS ONE THROUGH 11. SO I'LL GO THROUGH MY SLIDES. I'LL EXPLAIN. AS YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IT HAS BEEN TABLED DECEMBER 16TH AND TABLED AGAIN ON JANUARY 20TH. AS FAR AS THE LAYOUT, AS I SAID, THEY.

AT FIRST THERE WAS A 11 LOTS. NOW THEY'VE BROKEN DOWN THE. 11 LOT TO CALL TO FORM TWO LOTS.

THE LOT 11 HAD JUST A BIG BOX BUILT AROUND A BIG BOX, BUT IT HAD A FAIRLY LARGE BUILDING AND THEY BROKE THAT DOWN INTO TWO TWO STORY BUILDINGS. THIS IS BEING BUILT IN PHASES. PHASE ONE WILL BE LOTS ONE THROUGH EIGHT ON THE NORTH SIDE, FOLLOWED BY PHASE TWO, LOTS NINE THROUGH 12 ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT BEFORE THERE WAS

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COMMISSION. MY NAME IS SAGAR. MY ADDRESS IS 45775 WHEEL DRIVE, PLANO, TEXAS, 75024. AND THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY YOUR QUESTIONS, CONCERNS ON THIS PROJECT, I APPRECIATE IT NOW. THANK YOU, MR. HAMILTON, AS I HAVE RECEIVED YOUR COMMENTS AND APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU HAVE TAKEN TO GO THROUGH ALL THE CHANGES WE MADE AND AND TWO OF THE MAIN CONCERNS WE EXPRESSED, ONE IS ON THE LOT LEVEL WHERE THE TRAFFIC MIGHT HAVE THE HEADLIGHTS DIRECTLY HITTING INTO THE PEOPLE SITTING IN THAT OPEN SPACE AREA. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW HERE IS. AGAIN. YES, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PLACE, THIS IS THE LOT LEVEL WHERE YOU CAN SEE THERE IS ALREADY A PLANTATION AND RAISED BED. THE PLANTS ARE PLANNED BETWEEN THE PARKING AND THE SITTING AREA. SO WHERE WE DO NOT SEE A CONCERN ABOUT HAVING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING THERE AND ENJOYING THE OPEN SPACE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE LIGHT SITTING INTO THERE, OR ANY OTHER SAFETY CONCERNS BECAUSE THERE IS A SIDEWALK EVEN BEFORE THAT. I GUESS PART OF IT IS NOT JUST SAFETY, BUT AS FAR AS LIKE PLACEMAKING, AS FAR AS WHEN YOU'RE SITTING OUTSIDE, YOU DON'T WANT HEADLIGHTS, BASICALLY. FACING WHERE YOU'RE

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ABSOLUTELY. SO AS YOU RIGHTLY SAID, I MEAN, EVEN NEITHER THE TENANTS AND NOR THE VISITORS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE LIGHTS FALLING IN THEIR SPACE. SO IT HAS BEEN ALREADY BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH AND PUT IT IN THAT RENDERING. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE INTENTIONALLY CREATED SOME RAISED BEDS AND WHICH ARE GOING TO BE FOUR FIVE FEET HEIGHT, AND WE HAVE PLANTS ON TOP OF IT.

AND CHANCES OF YOUR HEADLIGHTS DIRECTLY HITTING ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING THERE IS NOT THERE. THIS THIS VIEW IS GREAT. CAN YOU DO YOU MIND KIND OF TALKING US THROUGH THIS IS QUITE DIFFERENT THAN BEFORE AND I THINK IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT. SO I ECHO COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED WORK AND I KNOW YOU THIS IS A A LONG PROJECT FOR YOU GUYS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR TRYING AND CONTINUING. WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

CAN YOU TALK US THROUGH KIND OF HOW YOU'VE RE-ENVISIONED THESE, THIS, PARTICULARLY THIS BACK CORNER FROM THE TWO STORY AND WHAT MAY BE ON THE SECOND STORY VERSUS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TALK US THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. IF I CAN GO BACK TO THE. SO DURING OUR LAST MEETING, A COUPLE OF THINGS I HAVE HEARD CONCERNS FROM THE COMMISSION IS ABOUT, HEY, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE MORE A GATEWAY KIND OF PROJECT, NOT HAVING A BIG BOXES AND KIND OF WAREHOUSE KIND OF BUILDINGS HERE. AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENT I ALSO HEARD IS IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE SOME OFFICE SPACE SO THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME EMPLOYMENT AND IT WILL BE NICE. SO THOUGH WE HAVE DONE OUR RESEARCH DURING OUR LAST CALL, WE PRESENTED. SO THERE IS NO OFFICE NEED TODAY, BUT WE WANTED TO TAKE THE CHANCE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEED AND WHAT COMMISSION HAS REGISTERED US TO DO. AND WE HAVE BUILT A TWO STORY WITH AN INTENTION. ONE IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME MEDICAL OFFICES OR ANY OFFICES THAT'S GOING TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESS. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AROUND NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THE IDEA IS TO BUILD THE TWO STORIES IN SUCH A WAY THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE A TWO STORY RESTAURANT, LIKE A CASINO OR ANYTHING, SO WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A MEZZANINE FLOOR. SO WITHIN THAT TWO FLOORS BUILDING ITSELF. SO THAT MEANS WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE TWO STORY RESTAURANTS OR INDEPENDENT OFFICE, AND WE WOULD HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN MORE TENANTS. AND DIFFERENT VARIED USES CAN BE ACCOMMODATED. SO WITH THAT PROCESSES, WITH THAT THOUGHT IN MIND. SO WE HAVE CREATED THE TWO STORY APPROACH. AND ALSO WE HAVE CREATED, AS YOU CAN SEE, INSTEAD OF CREATING AS A SINGLE TWO STORY BUILDING, WE SEPARATED THEM AND CREATED A VERY GOOD OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THOSE BUILDINGS. AS YOU CAN SEE, IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME GOOD RESTAURANTS COMING THERE, WE WILL HAVE SOME OUTDOOR SEATING AND WHERE THE FAMILIES CAN BE GOING AROUND AND KIDS CAN BE PLAYING THERE. SO WE HAVE THOUGHT THROUGH ALL THAT AND CREATED A SPACE THAT IS MORE USEFUL AND USER FRIENDLY. I SHARE A VERY SIMILAR CONCERN ON THE OPEN SPACE, I THINK. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SWITCH BACK TO THAT OVERALL SITE PLAN.

POSSIBLY THAT WAS HELPFUL TO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD VIEW, BUT YOU KNOW, THE ORGANIZATION OF THE, OF THE SPACES IS A LITTLE STRANGE TO ME FOR A PARCEL. I MEAN, THIS IS A GREAT PIECE OF LAND, AS WE'VE TALKED IN PAST MEETINGS MULTIPLE TIMES, THIS IS A GATEWAY FOR US. THIS IS YOUR FIRST, ARGUABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT CORNER AS YOU COME SOUTH ON THE TOLLWAY, WHICH IS ALSO WHY IT'S DESIRABLE TO YOU. RIGHT? WHICH IS A GOOD THING. THE ORGANIZATION OF THE OPEN SPACE IS STRANGE TO ME OF LIKE, NOW WE'VE ADDED THIS BIG SPACE IN THE BACK LEFT IN THE AREA BETWEEN 11 AND 12. I ENVISION, YOU KNOW, THOSE RESTAURANTS, MAYBE KIDS ARE PLAYING ON SOME TURF OR WHATEVER. LIKE THAT COULD BE GREAT. THE ALL THE PARKING KIND OF ON THE, ON THE HOUSING OF THE RESIDENTIAL FACING SIDE IS A LITTLE, LITTLE PECULIAR TO ME OF, OF HOW YOU WOULD, HOW YOU WOULD ACTUALLY USE THAT IN RELATION TO THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, BUT THEN ALSO ALL OF THAT GREEN SPACE BACK THERE WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE A PRETTY NICE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ORGANIZING IT IN A WAY TO REALLY CREATE A SPACE THAT'S REALLY SPECIAL. IT FEELS VERY MUCH LIKE A POWER RETAIL CENTER. YOU'VE MADE SOME CHANGES THAT ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME MIXED USE COMPONENTS. AND WE I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF MY COMMENTS LAST TIME, BUT I STILL DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE ORGANIZING IT THAT WAY. AND OR WE'RE NOT REALLY GIVING MUCH CREDENCE TO THE TOLLWAY FRONTAGE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS ARGUABLY MORE IMPORTANT. WE DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T THINK IT'S WISE TO NECESSARILY DISREGARD THE RESIDENTIAL. BUT WE'RE PUTTING A PRIORITY ON THAT VERSUS THE FRONTAGE, BOTH ON FRONTIER AND ON THE TOLLWAY. AND AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE CAPTURING THE KIND OF THE SPIRIT IN WHICH

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WE HAVE A WALKING AREA OF ALMOST TEN FEET AROUND IT AND ALSO THERE IS A LOT OF SEATING AREA. SO WHICH MEANS WE ARE CREATING A PLACE THAT ALL THE COMMUNITY AROUND WILL BE PROUD AND HAVE FAMILY COME AND ENJOY. IT NEED NOT BE COMING ONLY FOR SHOPPING OR EATING THERE. THE THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THAT THE LOT. SIX, NINE, TEN YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE ARE FRONT FACING TO THE TOLLWAY. THOSE HAVE A BUNCH OF PARKING BEHIND IT. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED, I THINK MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I DON'T THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY DOING IT. I DON'T PERSONALLY FEEL HOW YOU'RE HOW YOU'RE MENTIONING IT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT PLACES LIKE WATERSCAPE AND ALAN, THEY'RE TAKING OPEN SPACE AND THEY'RE PUTTING RETAIL AND OTHER USES AROUND IT, AND THEY'RE MAKING THAT OPEN SPACE KIND OF THE FOCAL POINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. EVEN THE, EVEN THE, THE SHOPS IN ALLEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A BIG CIRCLE. THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT SOME AMENITIES IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S KIND OF MORE CENTRALIZED AND USE OF IT. I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW A USER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF YOU'RE IN, YOU KNOW, YOU GO, GO EAT AT YOUR CASINO OR WHATEVER, AND YOU'RE GOING FOR A WALK TO WALK OFF ALL YOUR CHIPS AND QUESO.

BUT YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T SEE SOMEBODY DRIVING HERE TO PARK IN A MASSIVE SEA OF PARKING AND THEN GO ON A NICE WALK AROUND PROBABLY WHAT'S A NICE LITTLE POND AND A NICE LITTLE, LITTLE SIDEWALK. SO TO ME, WHAT'S WHAT'S STILL MISSING TO MAKE THIS SPECIAL IS KIND OF THAT OVERALL, I THINK YOU USE THE TERM PLACEMAKING. IT KIND OF THIS OVERALL DESIGN AND CONCEPT OF QUALITY ORGANIZATION TO THE SPACE. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY FEELS LIKE. IT'S MISSING TO ME. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT, SIR. AND THE WAY WE SEE IS WE HAVE PAID ATTENTION TO 15 PLACEMAKING ITEMS TO MAKE THIS PROPERTY NOT ONLY LOOK GOOD, IT IS USEFUL.

AND AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE LAST, LAST TIME IN OUR MEETING, WE MADE THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY WALKABLE. IF YOU SEE, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PLACE IN THIS PROPERTY THAT YOU CANNOT REACH BY WALKING PARKING IN ONE PLACE. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? SO I'LL QUICKLY REITERATE THE APPRECIATION FOR THE WORK THAT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IN WITH TOWN STAFF. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD ASPECTS TO THIS. YOU KNOW, I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT THIS LOOKS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. AND THE OPEN SPACE IS A HUGE PART OF MAKING THIS A VERY KIND OF PRETTY HIGH END DEVELOPMENT. I SEE ALL THE TREES ON THE SITE PLAN LIKE THAT'S APPRECIATED. I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY MY CONCERNS. WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, I'LL TOUCH ON COMMISSIONER CARSON'S COMMENT, WHICH I KNOW HE DID NOT MEAN THIS WAY, BUT AS SOMEONE THAT LIVES ALONG THE TOLLWAY, NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST, I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT AS COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE COGNIZANT OF MAKING SURE THAT

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AND IF I'M THINKING, OKAY, SO I'M DRIVING MY FAMILY HERE AND I GO TO SOME PLACE UP AT THE FRONT ALONG THE TOLLWAY, I'M GOING TO GET IN THE CAR AND DRIVE TO THE BACK. I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO TO WALK. AND I THINK THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT THE USAGE OF THE OPEN SPACE THAT IT IT IS THERE AND IT IS PRETTY. BUT IS IT IS IT TRULY FUNCTIONAL IN A WAY THAT THE LIKE, THE DEVELOPMENT IS WALKABLE? WHEN I LOOK AT IT, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE A WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT'S JUST WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT I WOULD DO IN THIS CASE, I, I WOULD DRIVE AROUND IT RATHER THAN WALK. SO THAT KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, THE, THE USAGE OF THE OPEN SPACE AND HOW IT'S KIND OF SET WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT IS A CONCERN THAT I HAVE. BUT THE ELEMENTS ARE ARE THERE. AND YOU GUYS HAVE OBVIOUSLY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT. AND THAT'S APPRECIATIVE, APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU. THANKS, COMMISSIONER. AND I THINK I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. AND I SEE THE BOTH WAY. RIGHT. SO ONE, IF IT IS WALKABLE, BEAUTIFUL, IF IT IS NOT WALKABLE, IF THE FAMILY IS GOING TO DRIVE, WE PROVIDED ENOUGH PARKING NEXT TO THE OPEN SPACES. SO WHICH MEETS BOTH THE NEEDS WHICHEVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT. THANK YOU. YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ECHO SOME SOME COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER CARSON AND COMMISSIONER FOR AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THIS.

I KNOW THAT A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS, AND IT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER THAN IT DID THE FIRST FEW TIMES WE LOOK AT IT. AND SO CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. I TOO, AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE WALKABILITY OF IT. THAT'S BEEN MY CONCERN SINCE THE BEGINNING. IT'S SO SPREAD OUT AND EXPANSIVE ACROSS THE SPACE. IT JUST FROM A CONFIGURATION STANDPOINT, CONFIGURATION OF THE OPEN SPACE. I DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD WALK THIS SPACE. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN. YOU'RE, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY WALKING ACROSS PARKING LOTS TO GET FROM ONE ONE TENANT TO THE NEXT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL DETACHED. AND SO JUST FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, I JUST HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS IS CONFIGURED. IT HAS ALL THE ELEMENTS THAT I THINK THE TOWN WOULD REQUIRE. I JUST HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THOSE ELEMENTS ARE PLACED ACROSS THIS SPACE. THANK YOU SIR. AND. I DO NOT SEE WHERE WE ARE CROSSING THE PARKING LOTS TO REACH TO THE OTHER LOCATIONS. WE HAVE CONNECTED ALL THE OPEN SPACES THROUGH THE WALKING SIDEWALKS AND WHERE YOU ARE NOT CROSSING ANY PARKING LOTS. MAYBE IF AT ALL HAPPEN, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO CROSS A PARKING LOT IN LOT ONE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE EXISTING ROUTE. OTHERWISE, EVERY OTHER OPEN SPACE IS CONNECTED TO THE SIDEWALK AND THE. AND AS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS REVISIONS MANY TIMES. SO WE HAVE NOT TAKEN THE EASY ROUTE OF DEVELOPING THIS PROJECT, RIGHT. SO EVEN IF IT'S THE WATER FEATURE, SO THE EASIEST LOCATION, THE CHEAPEST LOCATION TO HAVE, IT IS AT A SMALL AREA IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. SO WE BRING IN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE ENGINEERING WISE AND THE CONSTRUCTION WISE, VERY EXPENSIVE. WE BROUGHT IT INSIDE AND WE HAVE ADDED A LOT MORE SIDEWALK THAN IT IS REQUIRED FOR THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.

AND ALL THE ELEMENTS. WHAT WE HAVE ADDED ARE YOU WOULD SEE MORE THAN WHAT IT HAS BEEN IN ANY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS TO MAKE IT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S IT'S A GOOD LOOKING FRONTIER GATEWAY PROJECT AND ALL THE COMMUNITIES ARE GOING TO BE ENJOYING THIS.

DID I HEAR YOU JUST SAY CORRECTLY THAT THE THE CHEAPEST SPOT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS TO PUT THE POND IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER. YES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SORRY, I'M HERE WITH THE APPLICANT. MALLORY MUSE, 2728 NORTH HARWOOD STREET.

HOPEFULLY WE ADDRESSED ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS ADEQUATELY, AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU, THE COMMISSION, COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF, FOR WORKING WITH US SO CLOSELY OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS AND YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR GUIDANCE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AS CONFIRMED BY CITY STAFF,

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OKAY. THAT'S COOL. THAT WOULD BE THE 14TH. 14TH. YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO TABLE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO TABLE TO APRIL 14TH MEETING. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE TABLE TO APRIL 14TH FROM COMMISSIONER HAMILTON, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARSON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES SIX

[6. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider and act upon a request for a Specific Use Permit for a Full-Service/Extended-Stay Hotel on MSW Prosper 380 Addition, Block A, Lot 1, on 5.9± acres, located on the east side of Mahard Parkway and 480± feet south of Prairie Drive. (ZONE-25-0008)]

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ZONING. IT'S JUST NORTH OF NORTH OF ENCOMPASS HEALTH, RIGHT HERE TO THE SOUTH. AND THEN THE REST OF THIS AREA NEXT TO THEM IS ALSO PLANNED. DEVELOPMENT 47 IS UNDEVELOPED.

AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET TO THE WEST, YOU'VE GOT THE HOLIDAY INN RIGHT THERE, WHICH IS THAT PD 101 OFFICE. SO FOR THE CONDITIONAL STANDARDS FOR FULL SERVICE HOTEL, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF FOUR AMENITIES. THEY ARE PROVIDED FIVE THE FITNESS CENTER, GAME ROOM, INDOOR OUTDOOR POOL, PLAYGROUND AND SPORTS COURT. THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDED, ALSO REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A MEETING SPACE, A MINIMUM OF 10,000FT■!S, WHICH IS PROVIDED IN A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT, WHICH HAS ALSO BEEN PROVIDED FOR EXTENDED STAY HOTELS. THE CONDITIONAL STANDARDS THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE FIVE AMENITIES, WHICH IS WHY THEY PROVIDED FIVE. THE CONFERENCE ROOM WAS JUST TAKEN CARE OF BY THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT CONFERENCE CENTER OR MEETING SPACE. THE GYM, GAME ROOM, POOL, PLAYGROUND, SPORTS COURT. ADDITIONAL CONDITIONAL STANDARDS FOR EXTENDED STAY HOTEL REQUIRE THEM TO BE LOCATED ALONG EITHER DALLAS PARKWAY, WHICH IS THE TOLLWAY, PRESTON ROAD OR UNIVERSITY DRIVE. HOWEVER, SINCE THIS IS A COMBINATION AND NOT JUST A STANDALONE TOWN, STAFF BELIEVES THAT IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO BE LOCATED ON A HARD. THEY ALSO REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF 15% OF OPEN SPACE. A RESTAURANT WHICH THEY'RE PROVIDING WITH THE FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT AND THEN BE SET BACK 100FT FROM RESIDENTIAL. BUT THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL WITHIN 100FT OF THIS PROPERTY. SO HERE IS THE CURRENT SITE PLAN. EXCUSE ME, THE OPEN SPACE PLAN SHOWING THAT THE MINIMUM 15% HAS BEEN MET AND THEY'VE TAKEN OUT THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE AREAS FROM THAT CALCULATION. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWING ALL THE PLANTINGS THAT WILL BE PROVIDED ALONG MAYAART AND THE NORTH EAST AND SOUTHERN BOUNDARIES. FACADE SHOWING THE MATERIALS. IT'S GOING TO BE 100% MASONRY, EITHER BRICK OR STONE. SO FOR ALL SGP REQUESTS, THERE ARE CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT HAVE TO BE MET OR CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT TOWN STATE EVALUATES THE REQUEST UPON. THE FIRST ONE IS THE USE OF HARMONIOUS AND COMPATIBLE WITH ITS SURROUNDING EXISTING USES. WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE ALSO OTHER HOTEL USES.

WITHIN THIS AREA. ARE THE ACTIVITIES NORMALLY REQUESTED WITH THE REQUESTED USE. WE BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE BASED ON THAT EXTENDED STAY HOTEL IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDED THAT THEY MEET ALL THE CONDITIONAL STANDARDS WHICH THEY HAVE MET FOR BOTH A FULL SERVICE AND A EXTENDED STAY HOTEL. IS THE NATURE OF THE USE REASONABLE? AGAIN, IT'S PERMITTED WITHIN THE ZONING, SO WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS. AND IT HAS ANY IMPACT BEEN ON THE SURROUNDING AREA BEEN MITIGATED. AND WE BELIEVE THAT COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE CONDITIONAL STANDARDS MEETS THIS REQUIREMENT. SO THIS CASE WAS NOTICED ON FRIDAY, MARCH 13TH. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND SHOULD THERE BE A MOTION TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY THIS REQUEST, IT WILL BE SLATED FOR TOWN COUNCIL ON APRIL 28TH. I WILL NOW TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS FOR ME. NO QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON. CAN YOU GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES WHERE IT SHOWED THE DUAL BUILDINGS? YEAH. LIKE DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC ONE OR JUST THE THIS ONE IS FINE.

WELL, YEAH, THAT'S FINE. ON THE HILTON GARDEN INN SIDE, THERE'S THAT BOX AND IT SAYS THAT THE FULL SERVICE HOTEL IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE, WHICH WOULD BE WHERE THE HOMEWOOD SUITES IS, AND THE RESIDENCE HOTEL IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE. IS THAT INCORRECT? IS IT? YEAH, THE LABELING IS INCORRECT. SO IT SHOULD BE SWITCHED. AND I SEE ALL THE HANDICAPPED PARKING

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SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS ENTRANCES ACROSS AROUND EACH SIDE OR HOW THAT WAS LAID OUT. MY NAME IS ANIL RAM. I'M WITH ARIADESIGNS. ADDRESS IS 601 SADDLE HILL DRIVE, GRANBURY, TEXAS, 75050. COULD YOU KINDLY REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? YES, SIR. THE PARKING LIKE, I KNOW I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS BUILDING OPERATES. I SEE THE HANDICAPPED PARKING IN THE FRONT ON THE EAST SIDE. THE BULK OF IT IS RIGHT THERE AND THEN A LOT OF THE OTHER PARKING. REGULAR PARKING IS ON THE WEST SIDE AND ON THE NORTH SIDE. OPPOSITE OF THE ENTRANCE IS THERE ENTRANCES AROUND THE BUILDING FOR PEOPLE TO ENTER, OR IS THE ENTRANCE ONLY AT THE SOUTH SIDE THAT FACES ENCOMPASS? DO THEY COME IN AND THEN CHECK IN ON EITHER SIDE OR. I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS BUILDING OPERATES. YES, THERE'S THERE'S ENTRANCES ON THE ON THE BACKSIDE, BUT IT'S RESTRICTED ENTRANCES. ONCE YOU ARE CHECKED IN, YOU HAVE THE KEY, THEN YOU CAN USE THAT. OKAY. BUT IF YOU'RE COMING IN WITHOUT CHECKING, YOU ONLY CAN COME THROUGH THE FRONT INITIALLY. YOU COME IN THROUGH THE SOUTH.

ONCE YOU'VE COME IN, YOU CAN PARK TO THE BACK AND ENTER THROUGH THE BACK OR ONE OF THE SIDES THAT YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY REASON IN THIS PARTICULAR SPOT IT WAS NOT CHOSEN JUST, FOR EXAMPLE, TO DO THE FULL SERVICE HOTEL THROUGHOUT. THAT'S HOW THE APPLICATION WAS MADE BY THE APPLICANTS TO HILTON. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? CAN YOU YOU MENTIONED, I THINK A PRETTY IMPORTANT POINT. CAN YOU JUST JUST MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND. BY RIGHT OR BY THE PD A FULL SERVICE HOTEL, I.E. THE HILTON GARDEN INN AS IT'S PRESENTED IS ALLOWED WOULD BE OKAY, THERE'S SOMETHING SIMILAR GETTING BUILT NEARBY, ETC. THE CHALLENGE HERE, AND I'M CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT AS TO WHY IT'S THIS WAY FOR PROSPER IS THE EXTENDED STAY COMPONENT. AND FRANKLY, I HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN OF THE EXTENDED STAY. SO IT'S INTERESTING THAT THAT WE DON'T THAT IT WASN'T WRITTEN IN THAT WAY. SO WHAT FROM THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE, WHY DO WE DISTINGUISH THE TWO AND AND WHY DO WE CALL IT FAVOR ONE. BUT BUT VERY SELECTIVELY LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE. WELL, YEAH. AND I THINK SO THIS PD IT HAS IT HAS A C IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERMITTED USES AS A C BY. WHICH MEANS THAT IT DEFAULTS TO CONDITIONAL STANDARDS IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE. AND SO FULL SERVICE, IT JUST IS THE CONDITIONAL SENTENCE ARE THOSE AMENITIES AND THE FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT. BUT FOR THE NOT ONLY EXTENDED STAY BUT FOR LIMITED SERVICE AS WELL, IT'S THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AND MY BELIEF IS THAT THERE WEREN'T BOTH APPROVING BODIES. BOTH PNC AND COUNCIL JUST WANT MORE CONTROL OVER THE SPECIFIC HOTELS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN. I THINK FULL SERVICE, WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF THOSE. BUT IT'S NOT A JUST ONE SIZE FITS ALL FOR THE LIMITED SERVICE AND EXTENDED STAY. AND SO THIS GIVES YOU MORE REGULATORY POWER AS OPPOSED TO JUST A FULL SERVICE, WHICH WE'RE IN FAVOR OF. YEAH. YEAH, I, I CERTAINLY, I THINK IT'S IRONIC THAT THE, THE TERMINOLOGY IS A LITTLE MIXED UP. NOT THAT THAT MATTERS A HUGE DEAL. THAT'S JUST AN ERROR. BUT WHEN IT'S CALLED RESIDENTIAL, I FIND THAT FASCINATING. AND THAT'S FRANKLY WHY I TAKE EXCEPTION TO THE EXTENDED STAY MYSELF. BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS. WHAT IS OUR CURRENT BREAKDOWN OF EXISTING AND BY RIGHT HOTELS BETWEEN LIMITED SERVICE, FULL SERVICE AND EXTENDED STAY? YEAH.

SO MOSTLY ON THE GROUND WE HOLIDAY INN IS I THINK THE ONLY ONE THAT IS OFFICIALLY ON THE GROUND. WE HAVE OTHER ENTITLED ONES, I BELIEVE FOR EXTENDED STAY THE AREA, THE PD AND WITH THE COSTCO PD, THERE WAS AN APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR A RESIDENCE IN THAT WAS A LIMITED

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WE EXPECTING $20 MILLION A YEAR REVENUE. SO IT IS A WIN WIN FOR BOTH THE PARTY. AND IT WILL BE THE BEST HOTEL IN THE CITY OF TOWN. WE WILL ALSO PROVIDE A LOT OF EMPLOYEE. IT'S A KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT THIS IS A ONE OFF BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS FROM LAST 35 PLUS A YEAR, AND WE HAVE DEVELOPED SO MANY HOTEL. SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT CITY OF PROSPER WILL BE BLESSED AND THEY WILL NOT REGRET ABOUT THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I DO HAVE ONE IF YOU DON'T MIND, SINCE YOU YOU COULD THIS OR WOULD THIS STAND ALONE AS A HILTON GARDEN INN WITHOUT THE HOMEWOOD SUITES? OKAY, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THE CITY HAD TOLD US ORIGINAL PLAN WAS NOT LIKE THIS. THEY HAD SAID, IF YOU BUILD THE CONVENTION CENTER, THEN THERE WILL BE NO ZONING REQUIRED. SO FULL SELF SERVICE CLASSIFIED THAT WAY THAT YOU DO NOT NEED ANY ZONING. HILTON GARDEN AND HOMEWOOD STREET. IT IS A ONE HOTEL. IT'S NOT TWO BUILDING. IT'S NOT TWO. IT'S A CONSIDERED AS A DUAL BRAND. DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? NO. BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID SHARE. I MEAN, I THINK THE CONFERENCE CENTER IS A IS A IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY VITAL AMENITY.

AND FRANKLY, I THINK IT WOULD DO WELL TO ATTRACT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF THAT HERE.

THE CONCERN ON THE HOMEWOOD SUITES IN A IN A EXTENDED STAY THAT'S A DIFFERENT CLIENTELE THAN A FAMILY COMING TO STAY IN A HILTON GARDEN INN OR A BUSINESS WORKER OR WHOEVER THAT'S THERE FOR 2 OR 3 DAYS AND LEAVES, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE WEEK LONG WITH KITCHENS, ETC. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S EVEN CALLED RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT TENANT.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT CLIENT, IF YOU WILL, IN A DIFFERENT USER. AND I THINK THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHY WE EVEN DISTINGUISH THE TWO. AND MAYBE IT'S NOT AS FAVORABLE FOR A TOWN. SO THIS IS A CLIENT.

IT WILL BE A CORPORATE CLIENT. MOST OF THE CORPORATE CLIENT ARE HOMELESS. AND SINCE WE HAVE

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I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A POINT TO SAY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE A RESIDENCE RESIDENCE, AND I AM IN THE INDUSTRIES FROM 35 PLUS YEARS EXTENDED STAY. IT'S REALLY NOT RESIDENCE. BUT YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE GET CONFUSED IN THAT IT'S NOT LIKE A YOU HAVE A KITCHENETTE AND IT'S LIKE, LIKE APARTMENT STYLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S REALLY NOT, BUT IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO UNDERSTAND. WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO JUST MAKING IT ALL A HILTON GARDEN INN BY ITSELF WITHOUT THE EXTENDED STAY? WELL, NO, THIS IS A. THE FLAG IS DOUBLED. IT'S A. SO WE CAN'T SEPARATE NOW AND WE ARE EXCITED TO OPEN. THE BANK IS READY, I SAID. THE HILTON IS READY. THE KNOCKING AT THE DOOR. SO BALL IS IN YOUR COURT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SIR, I APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? I'M SORRY. YEAH. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK. THE TIME THAT WE'RE OPEN IS 8:11 P.M. DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE? LOOKS LIKE A NO. DO WE? ALL RIGHT. SO I GUESS WE CAN JUST CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:12 P.M. SINCE NO ONE IS HERE. AND AT THIS TIME, IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER SIX FROM THE COMMISSIONER. TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY OR TABLE, OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION? WE'LL BE HERE ALL NIGHT. I WOULD SAY. WE GOT A COUPLE COMMISSIONERS UP HERE THAT HAVE CONCERNS WITH EXTENDED STAY.

RIGHT. SO WE GOT EXTENDED STAY ISSUES THAT THAT ARE HERE WE ARE IN WE ARE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC THINGS TO HAVE AND PROSPER. YOU DO HAVE THE THE HOTEL IS CLOSE TO THE PGA, BUT THE EXTENDED STAY IS IS THE OPPORTUNITY. FROM WHAT I JUST HEARD FROM EVERYONE. SO IF IF THERE'S CONCERN AROUND EXTENDED STAY, THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT. IF THERE'S NO CONCERN AROUND EXTENDED STAY, THEN THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANYTHING TO ADDRESS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY. ME PERSONALLY FOR PROSPER, I WOULDN'T WANT AN EXTENDED STAY. SO I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU GUYS. BUT. WE DO NEED TO COME TO WHAT'S BEST FOR PROSPER. WELL, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER JACKSON. I HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING ON BOARD WITH THE EXTENDED STAY ASPECT OF THIS. UNFORTUNATELY, I WISH THERE WAS A A WAY TO DO IT WITH JUST THE THE HILTON GARDEN INN. I UNDERSTAND NOW BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S COMMENTS, THAT THAT'S NOT A POSSIBILITY. IT'S A FLAG THAT YOU APPLY FOR EARLY ON. AND THIS IS IT IS WHAT IT IS. SO BUT BEFORE WE VOTE, I WANTED TO JUST STATE MY OPINION THAT I DO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE EXTENDED STAY ASPECT OF THIS. I'LL DO THE SAME. I'LL I'LL SECOND THAT.

I THINK THE WAY THAT THE ZONING IS SET UP MAKES IT PRETTY CLEAR THAT WHAT THE TOWN IS LOOKING FOR HERE IS FULL SERVICE. YOU KNOW, THE S U P FOR THE EXTENDED STAY. PERHAPS THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK FULL SERVICE IS

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[7. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider and act upon a request for a Planned Development for an for an Indoor Golf Simulator Facility on a part of Block 2 of the Mitchell Addition, on 0.2± acre, located on the west side of Coleman Street and 120± feet north of Fifth Street. (ZONE-25-0009)]

IT'S ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND IT'S DOWNTOWN OFFICE. AND TO THE WEST SIDE IS SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL. AND THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS LOCATION IS THE OLD TOWN DISTRICT. IT'S THE LOCATION MAP. SO YOU CAN SEE THE SURROUNDING ZONINGS. FUTURE LAND USE EXHIBIT. IT WILL FOLLOW THE DOWNTOWN RETAIL SETBACKS. THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN OF THE OF THE LOCATION. FOR THE BUILDING MATERIALS, IT'LL BE FIBER, CEMENT, SIDING. THE AWNINGS WILL BE EITHER METAL ROOF OR THE SHINGLES FOR THE ROOF. ITS PROPOSED ELEVATION.

THE FLOOR PLAN. THE INTENT IS TO HAVE FOUR BAYS AND A. WITH THE OFFICE AND RESTROOM. SO IT'S BASICALLY SIMPLE RENOVATING RETAIL, I'M SORRY, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND TURN INTO A GOLF SIMULATOR. AS FAR AS LANDSCAPE, IT'LL STILL GO WITH THE QUALITY. WELL, THERE'LL BE THE LANDSCAPE WOULD BE IT BE REDUCED FROM WHAT'S AT THE DOWNTOWN RETAIL AT THE MOMENT. AND ALL BUFFERS WILL BE FIVE FEET, BUT STILL MEET THE REQUIRED 7% OF OPEN SPACE.

STAFF. WELL, JUST PD WAS NOTICED ON MARCH 13TH. STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND IF IT IS APPROVED, IT'LL GO TO THE TOWN COUNCIL ON APRIL 28TH AND I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? HEY, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ON THE PARKING. SO WE GOT FOUR BAYS AND WE GOT FOUR PARKING SPOTS OR NO FIVE PARKING SPOTS WITHOUT THE HANDICAPPED PARKING, WHICH I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD WORK WITH HANDICAP SWINGING A GOLF CLUB. MAYBE THAT MAYBE. I DON'T MEAN TO SAY ANYTHING POLITICALLY CORRECT, BUT. IS THAT ENOUGH PARKING? DO WE DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS? I GUESS FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED BY OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERS. OKAY. FOR THE AMOUNT OF PARKING AND TO REGULATE THE PARKING, REGULATE THE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ON SITE AT ONE TIME. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO EXPLAIN THE APPLICATION PROCESS, MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS AND THE LIMIT LIMITS PER BAY. AND THAT'S WHY WE CAME UP WITH THE SIX PARKING SPACES TO INCLUDE. OKAY, THANKS. I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT OR IF WE HAVE TO OPEN THE HEARING FIRST, BUT THAT MIGHT ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS HERE. YEAH, YEAH. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. LEGITIMATE. PATEL. YOU CAN CALL ME JIM. 1412 ELLICOTT IN CELINA, TEXAS 75009. SO MY WIFE AND I PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY CLOSE

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SO THE, THE REASON WHY WE SELECTED THIS SPECIFIC USE CASE, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, STAFF CAN PROBABLY SAY WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL USE CASES AND WE LANDED ON THIS BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE AN UNMONITORED FACILITY. SO ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE HAVE A MEMBERSHIP AND YOU BOOK A SPECIFIC TIME AND YOU WILL GET A CODE TO ACCESS THE BUILDING AND YOU GET TO GO USE THE BAY.

THE IDEA REALLY IS FOR SOMEONE THAT IS LEARNING GOLF, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO COME PLAY AT. ODD HOURS, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, SIX IN THE MORNING OR, YOU KNOW, 8:00 AT NIGHT, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO A FACILITY, YOU KNOW, IN TEXAS, IT GETS REALLY HOT. SO IT'S REALLY A GREAT PLACE FOR, FOR YOU TO COME THROUGHOUT THE DAY BETWEEN MEETINGS, WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEA BEHIND IT. SO THE PARKING WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE OKAY JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT EXPECTING ANYONE ELSE. AND PART OF IT, PART OF THE MEMBERSHIP CONTRACT IS THAT WE'RE ONLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE YOU AND MAYBE YOUR FAMILY IF YOU WANT TO BRING YOUR KID OR YOUR SPOUSE OR WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT WE'RE NOT THIS IS NOT A LOCATION WHERE WE'RE EXPECTING A PARTY, RIGHT? THERE ARE LOCATIONS LIKE THAT. TOPGOLF HAS A SIMULATOR FACILITY AT PGA, THE LOCAL OPEN IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF 380 ON BY THE THE WINDSONG AREA IS HAS RESTAURANT ALL THAT. SO YOU KNOW, THERE ARE USE CASES FOR THAT, BUT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME IN AND PRACTICE AND JUST GET BETTER AND ENJOY GOLF. HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. I KIND OF HAVE THE SAME PARKING QUESTION, I GUESS, LIKE YOU SAID, SOMEBODY COMING TO PRACTICE AND I WAS THINKING IF SOMEBODY WAS INSTRUCTING THEM, LIKE THEY COULDN'T REALLY HAVE AN INSTRUCTOR. THIS REALLY IS A SOLO THING. HAVE YOU DONE THIS MODEL SOMEWHERE ELSE? I JUST GOLF IS SO IS SOCIAL. AND YET IT'S KIND OF DESIGNED TO BE VERY EXCLUSION, YOU KNOW, SINGULAR. AND IN THE WAY I THINK ABOUT THIS EXPERIENCE IS SO I, WHEN I STARTED LEARNING GOLF A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I HAD A MEMBERSHIP AT WESTBRIDGE, WHICH IS IN MCKINNEY FOR I THINK 90. I THINK IT'S CLOSE TO $100 NOW FOR YOU TO GO USE THE RANGE FACILITY. AND THIS IS WHAT I'M EXPECTING IS THAT IT IS THAT IT'S A REPLACEMENT FOR SOMEONE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY GOLF FACILITIES OUT IN PROSPER AREA. SO THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING A MEMBERSHIP FOR ABOUT $150 WHERE YOU CAN COME IN AND PRACTICE AND, YOU KNOW, THE SIMULATOR WILL HAVE ACCESS TO, TO PLAY OTHER ROUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR JUST AS ANY OTHER SIMULATOR. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO HAVE A SOCIAL EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER FACILITIES FOR THAT. THIS IS FOR YOU TO COME IN AND PRACTICE AND REALLY JUST FOCUS ON YOUR GAME. AND THAT WAS JUST TO ADD TO THE PARKING QUESTION. THAT WAS A QUESTION I ACTUALLY WAS PUSHING FOR ONE SPOT PER SIMULATOR, AND IT WOULD SUFFICE FOR THE FOR. BUT THE TOWN'S, YOU KNOW, STAFF MENTIONED THAT THEY WANTED TO DO ONE AND A HALF IN CASE THERE WAS A.

SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO TEACH, BUT WE ARE NOT PLANNING FOR THAT. AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M INTERESTED IN ENTERTAINING. IS THERE SOMEBODY ON THE PROPERTY AT ALL TIMES, LIKE GIVEN OFFICE SPACE OR IS THAT NOT REALLY? IS IT JUST KIND OF A COME AND GO WITHOUT SOMEBODY PHYSICALLY BEING ON THE PROPERTY? YEAH, THE OFFICE IS MOSTLY STORAGE, CLEANING SUPPLIES. OBVIOUSLY, YOU NEED A SERVER ROOM FOR THE CAMERAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S REALLY UNMANNED. I'LL COME IN TO CLEAN, YOU KNOW, DO DO WHATEVER THAT, YOU KNOW, INTRODUCE SOMEONE TO, TO THE FACILITY IF NEEDED. BUT REALLY THE EXPERIENCE SHOULD BE THAT IT IS UNMANNED. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO COME IN FOR ANYTHING REALLY, OTHER THAN CLEANING.

FOR THE OUR. ARE THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION OR IS IT TRULY JUST 24 HOURS ANY TIME? WE. I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DIFFERENT MODELS IN THE INDUSTRY. THERE'S

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ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION COVERED BY ORDINANCE ANYWAY? NO, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE. I'M SORRY.

IT DEPENDS OBVIOUSLY ON SPECIALTY THINGS, YOU KNOW, ALCOHOL AND OTHER STUFF, BUT BUT NOT NOT GENERALLY AS FAR AS SPECIFIC INDUSTRY. SORRY. AND I'M NOT EXPECTING HUNDREDS OF HOURS. YOU KNOW, I'M EXPECTING 200 MEMBERS OR SO AT MAX. IT MIGHT EVEN BE LIKE CLOSER TO 160 AS A MAX. SO YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THE USAGE IS I WOULD EXPECT MAYBE TEN PEOPLE. I MEAN, I'M SORRY, 20 PEOPLE PER DAY COMING INTO THAT FACILITY. IT'S NOTHING CRAZY. THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING THINGS WE'VE SEEN. I'LL SAY THAT. IT'S I, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. DO WE KNOW THE HOURS OF OPERATION OF, LIKE ORANGE THEORY? HOPEFULLY OFF OF 380. PROBABLY PROBABLY MOSTLY 24 HOURS. I DO NOT I'M SORRY. IT'S AN ORANGE. ORANGE THEORY. THE GYM? YEAH. THEY USUALLY OPEN AT 5 A.M. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY END, BUT 5 A.M. IS LIKE A START. WELL, AS A GOLFER, I PARTICULARLY LOVE THIS, BUT I DON'T GET TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE FAVOR BASED ON MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE. I WOULD SAY THAT I'M VERY INTRIGUED BY IT. AND I ACTUALLY THINK THE WAY THAT YOU PUT THE KIND OF BUSINESS RIGHT UP IN THERE WAS VERY HELPFUL. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. I THINK YOUR, YOUR PRESENTATION OF IT HELPS. LIKE I THINK IN WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT, I WAS LIKE, THIS IDEA IS GENIUS, BUT IT SHOULD BE MORE SOCIAL. HOW YOU'VE DESCRIBED IT IS ACTUALLY VERY INTRIGUING TO ME AND MAKES ME IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE OF THE USE AND THE LOCATION. IF IT WAS SOMETHING WITH A 40 DIFFERENT CAR PARKING AND PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AND HAVING PARTIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT WOULD FEEL A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN DOWNTOWN PROSPER. SO I THINK YOU'VE ACTUALLY CAPTURED THE INTENT OF A, OF A REUSE OF A RESIDENCE IN A REALLY, REALLY GOOD WAY. AND I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF COOL FOR DOWNTOWN PROSPER, WHICH IS WHAT YOU LED WITH. AND I THINK THE, THE PARKING IS A LITTLE STRANGE BECAUSE OF THE 1 TO 1 OR WHATEVER, ONE AND A HALF TO ONE. BUT I THINK THE CONCEPT THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, I HOPE IT'S SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE I THINK THOSE KIND OF THINGS PROVIDE A LOT OF KIND OF NUANCE. THAT'S KIND OF COOL FOR A DOWNTOWN AREA. SO I, I, I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND I HOPE IT'S SUCCESSFUL. AND TO ADD TO THAT REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE FOOD AND BEVERAGE. SO THE HOPE IS THAT YOU'RE COMING IN. IF YOU'RE COMING IN AT, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU DROP OFF YOUR KIDS AT REYNOLDS AND YOU GET A COFFEE AND GO PRACTICE BEFORE YOUR FIRST MEETING OR BEFORE YOU GO TO WORK, THAT'S KIND OF THE IDEA IS THAT HOPEFULLY IT ELEVATES THE OTHER FOOD AND BEVERAGE FACILITIES IN THAT AREA. AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S THE IDEA. FOR 37. I FIGURED IT'S CLOSED AT CERTAIN TIMES. I WAS JUST WONDERING. YEAH, THE HOURS DON'T WORRY ME AS MUCH DUE TO THE LIKE A JUST THE PRACTICALITY OF YEAH, MAYBE, MAYBE SOME STRANGE, MAYBE A DOCTOR OR SOMETHING GETS OFF, WANTS TO GO HIT IT TOO. THAT'S FINE. YOU'RE INSIDE AND IT'S ONE CAR, BUT IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A HIGH DEMAND, NOT A BIG CONCERN FOR ME. AND TO EVEN ADD TO THAT, I HAVE A SIX YEAR OLD AND YOU KNOW, I WOULD GO PRACTICE AT WESTRIDGE AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONLY ONES THAT HAD IT WAS LIT UP AT NIGHT AND IT, YOU KNOW, CLOSED AT 9:00.

AND, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO HURRY OVER THERE AND GO AND PRACTICE. SO THE IDEA IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IS FOR ANYONE THAT HAS THE DIFFERENT LIFESTYLE, YOU KNOW, BREAKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, WHAT HAVE YOU TO BE ABLE TO COME AND LEVERAGE THE FACILITY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS. YES. AFTER. MR. ALL RIGHT. SO ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING? NOPE. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT 829. DON'T SEE ANYONE HERE. SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 829. ARE THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR

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I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HAMILTON. APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND. OH, WE GOT A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER DANIEL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION

[8. Review actions taken by the Town Council and possibly direct Town Staff to schedule topic(s) for discussion at a future meeting.]

REVIEW ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE TOWN COUNCIL AND POSSIBLY DIRECT TOWN STAFF TO SCHEDULE TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE MEETING. SO WE HAD THE PREVIOUS TOWN COUNCIL MEETING MARCH 10TH. THE NOTICE OF APPEAL IS APPROVED AND SCP FOR THE ACCESSORY BUILDING. IF YOU RECALL THAT REALLY LARGE LOT, A LARGE BUILDING THAT WAS APPROVED. AND THEN LAST NIGHT AT THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WERE SEVERAL THINGS ON CONSENT, INCLUDING THE ORDINANCE FOR THE PRIVATE STREETS, FOR THE TOWNHOMES, FOR THE TOWNHOMES, THE SCP ORDINANCE, FOR THE GUEST HOUSE, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR ORDINANCE FOR MCCASLIN, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THAT MCCASLIN TRACK. THAT SMALL OR THE THIN NARROW TRACT OF RESIDENTIAL NOTICE OF APPEALS FOR ANY PREVIOUS SITE PLANS AND SPS. AND THEN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT BOARD DIDN'T WAY OFFICE PARK, WHICH HAD THE SPORTS FACILITY. THERE WERE.

THERE WAS A MOTION TO CHANGE A FEW THINGS. IF THE BANK WERE TO HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN. SCP COMMUNITY CENTER WAS ON THERE AS AS ALLOWED BY RIGHT, BUT IS NOW SCP AS WELL AS THE FRATERNAL ORGANIZATIONS TELEPHONE EXCHANGE WAS REMOVED. AND THEN THERE'S JUST CLARIFICATION THAT LOT FIVE WOULD BE AN INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY. AND IF ANY OTHER USE WERE PROPOSED THERE, I'D HAVE TO COME BACK FOR AMENDMENT. UPCOMING COUNCIL ITEMS. WE JUST HAVE NOTICE OF APPEALS RIGHT NOW FOR THE APRIL 7TH MEETING AND THEN THE UPCOMING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS. WE DON'T HAVE THE AGENDAS SET YET, BUT THOSE TWO MEETINGS ARE BACK TO BACK APRIL 14TH AND APRIL 21ST. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I WILL I WILL BE ABLE TO BE AT THE 14TH BUT NOT THE 21ST. JUST SO YOU KNOW, I WON'T BE AT THE 14TH, BUT I WILL BE AT THE 21ST. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER NINE. MOTION TO ADJOURN. GOT A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CARSON AT 832. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER FIORI. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND APPROVAL. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF

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