Mar 12, 2026 Parks and Recreation

[1. Call to Order / Roll Call.]

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WELCOME TO THE MARCH 12TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS CALL TO ORDER. CALLING THE BOARD FROM MY LEFT TO RIGHT IS CARRIE CASTRO, DEB HORAN, MYSELF, DANIEL KNOX, BOB BENSON, VALERIE RODRIGUEZ, AND KYLE LAFFERTY. FOR STAFF, WE HAVE DAN BAKER, MATT FURR, TREVOR HELTON, AND TALIA STEVENSON.

[2. Consider and act upon the minutes of the February 12, 2026, Parks and Recreation Board meeting.]

ALL RIGHT. IF NO QUESTIONS, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? OKAY. MOTION FROM DEB, DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND FROM VALERIE RODRIGUEZ? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR WITH THE VISUAL AND AN I.

A. ALRIGHT. SIX ZERO. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS CITIZEN COMMENTS. WE DO HAVE

[3. Citizen Comments.]

YEAH. SO YOU'RE SAYING A PRIVATE LESSON, PEOPLE. YES. TEAM PEOPLE ARE OCCUPYING IT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME RATHER THAN THE ALLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO USE. YEAH. IF IT'S JUST LACROSSE KIDS, IT'S SORT OF AN IN AND OUT SYSTEM WHERE YOU CAN GET SIX PEOPLE UP THERE IN AND OUT. YOU CAN REALLY ALWAYS GO IN THERE. YEAH. BUT IF THERE'S TEAMS OCCUPYING THE SPACE OR PEOPLE GIVING PRIVATE LESSONS, THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF IN A WAY, REALLY, I THINK, I THINK ACTUALLY DEFINITELY TELLING THEM TO LEAVE. I'VE HEARD AT TIMES. YEAH. BUT CERTAINLY JUST FORCING THEM OUT BY THE, YOU KNOW, ADULTS WITH IN THERE WITH SOME YOUNGER KIDS TRYING TO TAKE THEIR SPACE. SO YEAH, MAKING THEM FEEL UNWELCOME AND THEN THEY'LL JUST LEAVE. SO YEAH, THOSE TWO, THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG KIND OF BIG ITEMS. YEP. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. SO AS THE BOARD, RIGHT, YOU ALL REALLY CAN'T RESPOND TO AT THIS TIME. BUT WHAT I WILL LET YOU KNOW AS

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ALRIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. THANKS. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ONLINE OR IN PERSON? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT

[4. Consider and act upon approval of additional perimeter fencing at Raymond Community Park.]

SO YOU ALL ARE PRETTY PRIVY TO KIND OF THE EVOLUTION OF THAT RAYMOND COMMUNITY PARK HAS GONE THROUGH WITH CHANGE ORDERS AND BUDGET BEING INCREASED TO, TO TRY TO GRASP EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED AT THAT PARK. SO ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS NOT FUNDED IS SOME FENCING THAT ESSENTIALLY RUNS ALONG FIRST STREET ON THE SOUTH. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP THAT OBVIOUSLY IS TILTED, YOU'LL SEE THE NORTH ARROW POINTING TO THE RIGHT. SO SO IT'S NOT SITTING NORTH SOUTH AS AS THE SCREEN SITS. BUT SOME NEEDED NEEDED FENCING THAT WOULD RUN ALONG FIRST STREET AND ALSO ALONG QUITE ESSENTIALLY ONE STOPPING THE SOCCER BALL OR LACROSSE OR WHATEVER FROM POTENTIALLY ROLLING INTO TRAFFIC. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, A CHILD CHASING AFTER A BALL. THE BALL COULD GO OVER THE FENCE. WORST CASE, IT GOES INTO TRAFFIC AND BALL GETS RUN OVER, SOMEBODY STOPS. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT ANY KIDDOS WHO AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION RUNNING OUT INTO TRAFFIC. THIS WAS A REQUEST BY OUR YOUTH SPORTS GROUPS, PARTICULARLY PASO, OUR SOCCER ORGANIZATION. SO STAFF WENT BACK AND LOOKED. WE ACTUALLY DID A QUOTE FOR SIX FOOT TALL, VINYL COATED BLACK CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT CAME IN AT $153,000.

NOW IT'S 2800. IT'S A LOT OF IT'S A LOT OF IT'S WE'VE GOT HALF A MILE OF FENCE THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN. AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES A CONCRETE BEAM THAT RUNS ALONG THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS ONE PROTECTS THE FENCE. AND IT ALSO GIVES US A MAINTENANCE EDGE. SO WE'RE NOT HITTING THE FENCE. AND IT'S A BETTER LOOK. NOW, WHAT WE WERE TOLD LATER WAS WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PUT CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT CLOSE TO THE STREET, JUST THE ESTHETICS OF IT. EVEN THOUGH THERE'S TENNIS COURTS THAT ARE JUST RIGHT ALONG THE WAY THAT HAVE THE SAME HAVE HAVE THE BLACK CHAIN LINK FENCE. SO WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO AND WHICH WE DO HAVE SOME IN THE PARK, THAT PICTURE AT THE TOP RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, WE GOT A QUOTE ON THAT, MATT. MATT DID THE QUOTES FOR US AND THAT CAME IN AT $312,011. SO DOUBLE. BUT THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED AT THE TOWN. WE PRESENTED THIS TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT SUBCOMMITTEE. THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF INSTALLING THE FENCE, THE THE WROUGHT IRON. IT'S NOT TRULY WROUGHT IRON. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY JUST AN ALUMINUM FENCE, BUT IT'S IT IS A NICER LOOK. INITIALLY, THE PASO PASO HAD OFFERED TO PAY FOR IT. THEY. THEY FEEL IT'S THAT IMPORTANT. AS WE KNOW, THEY'VE MADE MULTIPLE DONATIONS TO THIS PARK AND TO LAKEWOOD AND ALSO SPENT A LOT OF MONEY WITH US JUST TO KEEP THE PARKS LOOKING GOOD. SO THEY'RE A FANTASTIC GROUP. WHEN WE PRESENTED THAT TO CIP SUBCOMMITTEE, THEY DIDN'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT COVERING THE ENTIRE COST. SO THEY ASKED US TO SEE WHAT'S LEFT IN THE BUDGET. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAVE $312,000 LEFT OVER AFTER THIS PROJECT. AFTER WE PUT THE PUT THE BOW ON IT, I I'M ANTICIPATING WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING. SO IN TALKING WITH MY BOSS. AND SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE TOWN TO COVER EVERYTHING IN EXCESS OF $153,000. SO ESSENTIALLY, WE SHOULD ALMOST BE SPLITTING THAT WITH PASO, AND WE THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN IF WE'RE A LITTLE UNDER THAT, PASO MOST LIKELY WOULD COVER THAT GAP. SO.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO DO IS TO APPROVE US TO MOVE FORWARD AND ASKING PASO TO

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THE PROJECTED TIMELINE WOULD START IN JUNE, BE DONE BY AUGUST BEFORE ALL THEIR THE SEASON STARTS. SOME OF THIS WE WILL HAVE TO REPLACE SOME SOD, BUT IT'S ALL PART. SO THIS IS.

THIS IS 100% OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET THE PARK LOOKING LIKE IT SHOULD WITH THE FENCING.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS. SO THIS IS I KNOW IT SAYS ALUMINUM GUARANTEED ALUMINUM NOT STEEL BECAUSE. CORRECT. YEAH. IT'S YEAH. BECAUSE STEEL HAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE. YEAH. IT'S IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE, BUT ANYTHING HEAVIER DUTY IS GOING TO BE WAY OUT OF BOUNDS. SO THIS DOES COME IN PANELS. SO IF IT GETS A CERTAIN SECTION OF IT GETS BEAT UP OR WHATEVER, WE CAN REPLACE SECTIONS OF IT IF NEEDED. SO DAN, WAS THIS ORIGINALLY IN THE DESIGN AND WAS TAKEN OUT? NO. YOU'RE SAYING NO. OKAY. AND HOW FAR ARE THESE PLAYING FIELDS FROM THE THE STREET. YEAH, WE COULD GUESS THEY'RE OUT THERE.

POINT IS 800. AND. ALL THAT. SO THAT GOES TO. OKAY. SO FOR OUR STREET. MEETING, BUT STILL LESS EXERCISE ON BOTH SIDES. SO. IT'S IT'S ALSO GOING TO DEPEND ON HOW THE SOCCER ASSOCIATION SETS THEM UP. SO IF THEY'RE FULL SIZE FIELDS, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO GET CLOSER.

IF THEY BREAK THEM UP INTO THE BABY FIELDS, THEN THEY'LL PROBABLY BE SOME DISTANCE, A LITTLE MORE DISTANCE AWAY. SO DAN ON SO TWO QUESTIONS. NUMBER ONE, BY DEFINITION, DO YOU THINK THE CHAIN LINK FENCE ON THE COURTS IS ALLOWED BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED PART OF THE COURT. YES. OKAY. AND THEN THIS GOES ALONG THE TOWN ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE OPEN FENCING. YES. RIGHT. OKAY. SO I'M JUST BUILDING A STORY HERE. SO THE THE TOWN ORDINANCE REALLY DEFINES THE NEED FOR THIS. YES. RIGHT. YES. OKAY. THEN ON COSTING. SO IT'S $312,011. THE 153 DELTA THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THE TOWN TO COVER THE. 153 IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING OR IS THAT GOING TO BE SPLIT MAYBE WITH PASO OR IS THE 159 OH 11 GOING TO BE SPLIT WITH. YEAH. SO LET ME LET ME CLARIFY THAT. SO PASO CAME TO US ASKING FOR THE FENCING AND.

YEAH. AND HONESTLY AND CARRIE, YES, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND IT WAS NOT. AND ARCHITECTS MISSED IT. WE MISSED IT. SO SHAME ON ALL OF US FOR THAT. WHAT, WHAT WE ARE BECAUSE PASO CAME TO US, SAID, WE WANT THE FENCE, WE'LL PAY FOR THE FENCE. SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS ASK THEM TO COVER THE FIRST $153,000. AS FOR A CHAIN LINK FENCE, WHICH IS FUNCTIONAL BUT JUST DOESN'T MEET TOWN STANDARDS, AND THEN THE TOWN WOULD PAY THE, LET'S CALL IT THE UPGRADE PORTION OF THAT. SO THAT'S THE PLAN WE THINK WE CAN RIGHT NOW, AS EVERYTHING'S TRACKING, WE THINK WE'LL PROBABLY GET AROUND THAT $200,000 MARK WHEN THE PROJECT'S ALL DONE. WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE WAYS TO GO, SO I DON'T WANT TO JINX THAT. SO IF WE CAN COVER THE WHOLE THING. BUT PASO HAS ALREADY SAID THEY'LL THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT. MEMBERS OF THE CFP SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH COMPRISES THREE COUNCIL. AND ON THAT AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THEM THAT, HEY, THIS IS THAT'S KIND OF A MINIMUM THING WE SHOULD BE DOING FOR THE FIELD. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S A NICE TO HAVE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO YES. AND THEN THAT COST INCLUDES THE

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THAT'S 100% OKAY. YES SIR. WILL THERE BE ANY GATES ANYWHERE. THERE'S NO GATES IN THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT IT AND MAYBE DO SOME OFFSETS. SO THERE ARE SOME WAYS TO TO GET IN AND AROUND IN THE EVENT YOU WOULD HAVE TO. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND SHOULD NOT CHANGE THAT COST. WE WOULD JUST STOP THE I, I CALL IT A BEAM THE MOST TRIP. WE KEEP THE CONCRETE IN THE FENCE AND THEN WE MIGHT JUST SKIP THE PANEL IF YOU WILL. YEAH. AND KEEP GOING. OKAY. YOU MIGHT NEED SOMETHING FOR EQUIPMENT IN AND OUT. SURE.

I DON'T KNOW. NOW, IT'S NOT JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT ISN'T THE WHOLE. IT'S IT'S A LARGE IT'S A VAST MAJORITY OF THAT PERIMETER. BUT WE'LL STILL HAVE OPENINGS TO GET EQUIPMENT AROUND IMO.

OKAY, PEOPLE, IT JUST MAY BE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF HAVING A 1000 FOOT RUN OF THE FENCE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO BREAK THAT UP INTO A COUPLE SECTIONS. SO, SO THAT SO THAT A CHILD WOULDN'T BE RUNNING, THEY STILL HAVE SOMETHING TO STOP AT. BUT YEAH, SOMETIMES YOU SEE IT WHERE THERE'S AN OPENING AND THEN THERE'S MAYBE ANOTHER PANEL BEHIND IT. SO SOMEBODY HAS TO KIND OF STEP AROUND. SURE. SO WE WOULD MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE. OKAY. AND DOES IT GO ALONG FIRST STREET? DOES IT GO ALL THE WAY WEST? SO THAT RED DASH LINE ON THAT MAP, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THAT RED DASH LINE IS ESSENTIALLY THE EXTENT OF WHERE THAT FENCING WOULD GO.

YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHERE IT BORDERS COIT, ARE THERE ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT AREA WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO EXTEND THE FENCING EVEN FURTHER NORTH? ALONG QUITE. YET RIGHT NOW. IT COULD POTENTIALLY WE COULD, IF IT WAS NEEDED, EXPAND, BUILD ADDITIONAL FIELDS. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT IN THIS THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT'S A FUTURE POTENTIALLY SOMETHING LIKE MAYBE POTENTIALLY WANT TO DO, COMING FROM THE GUY THAT ALSO LIKES NATURAL AREAS AND SPACE, THAT AREA. RIGHT NOW, OUR MASTER NATURALISTS HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THERE FOR PROBABLY A YEAR OR TWO BEFORE WE ACTUALLY STARTED CONSTRUCTION. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO PRESERVE AS MUCH OF THAT AS WE CAN. BUT WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS, SO IF, IF WE CAME BACK A YEAR FROM NOW OR HOWEVER MANY YEARS FROM NOW AND SAID, HEY, WE REALLY NEED TO BUILD A COUPLE MORE FIELDS, WE WOULD INCLUDE SOME FENCING IN THAT PROJECT. THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT. I HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW THEY'RE EXTENDING THE ROAD, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS A SECOND AGO, BUT IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT THAT PART OF THE FENCING ON COY AT ALL? WE KNOW WE WILL BE WELL INTO THE PARK. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'RE BEYOND THE EXTENT OF THAT CONSTRUCTION.

YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. NO, THE INTENT IS NOT TO BUILD IT AND TAKE IT DOWN. WE'LL WE'LL BE FAR ENOUGH INTO THE PARK WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE A CONCERN. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DAN? ALL RIGHT. IF I, I DO HAVE ONE. SO CAN WE MAKE A MOTION THAT TO APPROVE STAFF.

BUT FOR YOU ALL TO INVESTIGATE OPENINGS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE BALL DOES GO OVER, THAT'D BE SURE. SO I WOULD SAY AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU, BUT AN EXAMPLE MIGHT BE THAT YOU ALL APPROVE STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN AGREEMENT WITH PASO FOR THESE AMOUNTS OR, OR MAYBE A SHARED COST, BUT TO ALSO INCLUDE OPENINGS WHERE APPROPRIATE, IN THE FENCING.

Y'ALL, I GOT IT. YEAH, 100%. ALL RIGHT. SO, SO I THINK WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE TOWN TO COVER COSTS IN EXCESS OF 153,000 COMING FROM PASO AND, AND ALSO TO HAVE A ABILITY TO HAVE OPENINGS IN THE FENCING FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN BALLS AND OTHER THINGS GOING FORWARD. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SAY ABOUT. OKAY, OKAY, BOB IS FIRST A MOTION, DO I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM CARRIE? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR WITH A VISUAL AND AN EYE? NONE OPPOSED. THAT'S SIX ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DID THAT PASS NATALIA TEST? OKAY. ALL

[5. Consider and act upon prioritizing remaining funds from the 2020 Bond Program.]

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THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON. WE'RE GOING TO NEED A BOND PROGRAM. AND THEN THE WINDSONG COMMUNITY PARK, WHICH IS THE BOTTOM SQUARE ON THERE, WHICH IS UP OFF OF PROSPER TRAIL NEAR LEGACY. THAT ONE'S PROBABLY IN THE 40 TO $50 MILLION RANGE TO BUILD THOSE.

SO BUT THE IDEA BEING IS, HEY, COULD WE USE SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS NOW TO COME IN? MOST LIKELY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO MORE THAN A 30% SET. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU I KNOW KYLE'S IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT. I KNOW KERRY PROBABLY IS TOO. THAT WOULD BE THE INITIAL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, PLANS TO BUILD A PARK. WHEN WE DO A PROJECT, THE FIRST THING WE GET BACK FROM OUR CONSULTANTS IS A 30% SET. SO IT'S HIGHER LEVEL. WE LOOK AT IT AND GO, OH, BEFORE YOU START GETTING TO THE NITTY GRITTY, MAKE SURE THINGS ARE LAID OUT WHERE YOU WANT THEM. SO IT'S NOT AS DETAILED, BUT THAT WOULD BASICALLY START THAT PROCESS IN STAFF. AND THEN TYPICALLY YOU GET THE 30% STAFF, LOOK OVER THEM, MAKE COMMENTS, GO, WE DON'T LIKE THIS OR WE WANT THIS OVER HERE, OR THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF THIS OR TOO MUCH OF THAT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PROJECT, TYPICALLY ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15%, IS THAT STILL A GOOD NUMBER OF THE PROJECT? SO IF IT'S $100 MILLION PROJECT, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY 10% OF THAT FOR DESIGN BALLPARK. IT VARIES, BUT SO FOR US TO DO FULL DESIGN SET ON ONE SONG COMMUNITY PARK, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY ANYWHERE FROM 5 TO $7 MILLION ALL THE WAY OUT THE DOOR. DOE BRANCH SUBSTANTIALLY, PROBABLY NINE, $10 MILLION FOR THAT PARK. NOW, WHAT I WOULD ALSO ANTICIPATE FOR EITHER ONE OF THOSE PARKS IS THAT THEY COULD BE BUILT IN PHASES. AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT EVENTUALLY, BECAUSE I ALSO, AGAIN, I'M NOT I HAVE NO IDEA. BUT IT'S UNLIKELY THAT PARKS WILL HAVE A $80 MILLION BOND REFERENDUM AT THE NEXT BOND ELECTION. SO IT MIGHT BE THEY LOOK AT DOE BRANCH AND GO, WE THINK WE CAN DO THE TOP HALF. EVERYTHING ABOVE FISH TRAP. WHICH OF THE SOCCER FIELDS AND BASEBALL FIELDS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT FOR 20, $25 MILLION. SO THEN WE'D GO SAY WE WANT THE DESIGN FOR THAT. THEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH SMALLER, SMALLER SECTIONS, SMALLER COSTS TO TO GET THE DESIGN. SO I'M SORRY, I'M KIND OF, I'M KIND OF GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE ANYHOW. SO THE CIP SUBCOMMITTEE ASKED, WOULD YOU ASK THE PARKS BOARD TO BASICALLY PRIORITIZE IN RECREATION CENTERS ALSO LISTED ON THERE? I WAS TOLD TODAY, PULL THAT OFF. THAT'S GOING TO GET THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED THROUGH ANOTHER ITEM. SO WOULD YOU RATHER SEE DOE BRANCH POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME DOLLARS PUT TOWARDS IT? NOW FOR SOME EARLY DESIGN OR WINDSONG COMMUNITY PARK. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION TONIGHT. WE CAN TABLE THAT IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT. AND WE CAN COME BACK NEXT MONTH AND PICK THAT UP. OR IF YOU ALL, WE CAN ALSO DISCUSS IT IF YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE YOU'RE PREPARED TO, TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT DECISION TONIGHT. AND AGAIN, WE'RE WE'D BE MAKING THIS WOULD BE A, A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL MORE STRONGLY THAT DOE BRANCH GO FIRST OR WINDSONG GO FIRST. THEN I THINK WE NEED SOME DISCUSSION ON IT. YEAH FOR SURE. I THINK WE NEED SOME TIME TO OR I DO TO ASSIMILATE IT. BUT SURE, I, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT ADDRESSING, BREAKING, BREAKING THE DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN COSTS DOWN BY DEFINING SPECIFIC STAGES AND BEING SPECIFIC TO A STAGE. SO IN THAT MATTER, SO IF

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WITHIN REASON. I MEAN, PROBABLY STILL NEED THAT. WE PROBABLY NEED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING DOWN. THERE MAY NEED TO BE SOME ADA STUFF DONE, BUT YOU COULD LEAVE THAT SOUTHERN HALF OF THAT PARK. BASICALLY AS IT IS, IT BECOMES A NATURE AREA. WE, WE DO SOFT SURFACE TRAILS OR WE MOW THOSE TRAILS. THERE'S ALREADY THE BIKE TRAILS THAT GO BACK INTO THE TREES, WHICH ARE BEING USED EVERY DAY. SO THAT PARK CAN BE USED IN ITS CURRENT STATE. IT'S A LITTLE MORE MAINTENANCE MATTERS. GUYS GOT TO GO IN AND MOW THOSE TRAILS ABOUT ONCE A WEEK. IF IT RAINS, WE GET A PRETTY GOOD RAIN. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN ON IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE WET FOR A WHILE. BUT THAT SOUTHERN HALF COULD ESSENTIALLY STAY WHERE IT IS NOW AND THEN REALLY COULD BECOME MORE OF A. I DON'T USE DEMONSTRATION GARDEN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ESSENTIALLY, HEY, YOU KNOW, REESTABLISHING SOME BLACKLAND PRAIRIE OR JUST NATURE OR WILDLIFE HABITAT, THINGS LIKE THAT. PEOPLE WON'T GO WALKING THROUGH THE WOODS, WANT TO GO SEE THE, THE NORTHERN HALF IS PROBABLY WHERE YOUR, YOUR DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE IN PLACE, RIGHT? DEVELOPING BALL FIELDS, IRRIGATION, LIGHTING. YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OR, OR MUCH MORE LIMITED. SO. CAN I ASK? AND SO I'M GOING TO, I'M, I CAN TALK TO YOU AS A CONSULTANT AND ALSO A BOARD MEMBER. SHOULD I HAVE AN IDEA THAT MIGHT BE MORE OF A WIN WIN? SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PRIORITIZE ONE OVER THE OTHER, BUT CAN MOVE BOTH PROJECTS ALONG. SO FROM A CONSULTING STANDPOINT, STOPPING AT 30% IS REALLY, REALLY TOUGH. IN CDS, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, THOSE CONSULTANTS WILL PROBABLY HAVE IN THEIR CONTRACTS THE ABILITY TO CHARGE YOU FOR, TO RESTART A PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, WHOLE PROJECT TEAM MIGHT BE ON SOMETHING ELSE. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, AS SO AS WE GO THROUGH DESIGN, YOU'RE GOING TO DO IN CONCEPT, WHICH WE SAW HERE, THESE DESIGNS THAT YOU GO INTO SCHEMATIC DESIGN OR DID THEY STOP KIND OF IN THE CONCEPTING PHASE, REALLY STOP THE CONCEPT, STOP IT. SO IN THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE, AND IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO GET THE CONSULTANTS TO MOVE BOTH PROJECTS TO SD WITH BETTER COST ESTIMATION, REFINING THEM. ONCE YOU GET INTO DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT, AND ESPECIALLY CDS, THE POINT OF RETURN, THAT'S WHERE ALL YOUR AD SERVICES HIT. COME BACK IN BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO REDESIGN, THINGS ARE SET IN STONE. AND SO I WOULD BE VERY APPREHENSIVE TO GREEN LIGHT DESIGN TO 30% CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, KNOWING WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE WOULD PICK THOSE BACK UP WITH COST ESCALATION, BUT MAYBE NEGOTIATING WITH CONSULTANTS TO STOP AT A MILESTONE EITHER THROUGH SD OR EVEN AT DD, YOU HAVE REALLY GOOD COST. BUT ALSO BOTH THESE PROJECTS. I ASSUME YOUR PROCUREMENT METHOD WOULD BE CMR, WHICH WOULD MAKE THE MOST, MOST LIKELY. YEAH. AND SO WITH THIS METHOD, YOU CAN'T BRING ON A CMR GETTING YOUR COST MODELS WHEN YOU REALLY NEED THEM MOST, WHICH IS IN DESIGN DEVELOPMENT. SO WITH THAT RAMBLING, IF YOU GO TOO FAR, WE CAN'T BRING CONTRACTORS ON BOARD. WE DON'T HAVE GOOD PRICING AS WE MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION PHASES. SURE. BUT IF WE GO INTO SCHEMATIC DESIGN, GETTING SOME REFINEMENT AND MORE PRICING, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MOVE THE NEEDLE. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET ONE OF THESE PRIORITIZED WITH $4 MILLION INTO RD. BUT THE WHOLE ISSUE COMES BACK IS THAT YOU CAN'T BRING A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD. THEY'RE GOING TO START CHARGING YOU GENERAL CONDITIONS THAT WE CAN'T PAY EACH MONTH. RIGHT? SO IT'S A PREDICAMENT, I GET IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WOULD THINK OF THAT, OF MOVING THEM TO THE NEXT PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT. BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO REFINED DESIGN, JUST BECAUSE THE POINT OF RETURN IS SO FINE AND, AND VERY, VERY RAZOR THIN, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET HIT WITH THE AD SERVICES, LIKE MOBILIZING FOR A PROJECT. RIGHT? RIGHT. IT'S GOING TO COST YOU MORE ON THE BACK END. IT'S GOING TO COST YOU MORE TO START BACK UP. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH AND KNOWING I KNOW THE COMPANIES THAT DID THESE, AND ISOME OF THY COMPANY IS DIFFERENT. I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THEIR FEES. THAT'S AGAINST STATE LAW. BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT EVEN THE POINT. IT'S MORE OR LESS MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A WIN WIN FOR YOU. AND ONE OTHER THING TO CHEW ON IS, I KNOW THEY WANT TO PULL THE RECREATION CENTER OUT, BUT MAYBE TALKING TO THE CIP COMMITTEE ABOUT RUNNING A FEASIBILITY PLAN SO THAT YOU MAY BE USING SOME OF THE MONEY TO JUST DO SOME INITIAL PROGRAMING, UNDERSTANDING SQUARE FOOTAGE NEEDS THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY COULD WANT AND THEN UNDERSTANDING THE BUDGET. SO I WOULD BE. YES. AND SO WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS I BELIEVE THEY'VE ALREADY THEY ALREADY HAVE FUNDS TO DO THAT.

SO I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY I WAS TOLD EARLIER TODAY TO PULL THAT PULL THAT OFF OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY HAVE SOME. WHETHER IT'S RESOURCES OR SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE ALREADY THEY'RE STARTING TO TALK THROUGH THAT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO IMPACT

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SO THERE YOU GO. PROCUREMENT LESSONS. BUT THAT'S ALSO YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT TOO. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE MAKE A MOTION ON THAT, BUT I THINK WE WOULD. I MEAN, I'D GREENLIGHT YOU TO DO WHAT YOU FEEL IS BEST TO MOVE THEM FORWARD. BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO ARE THERE PARAMETERS AROUND THESE BOND DOLLARS THAT SPECIFY THEY HAVE TO BE USED FOR DESIGN? TYPICALLY WHEN WE BREAK OUT THE PROJECT. SO A PERCENTAGE. SO THE. SO ONE YES, BOND DOLLARS CAN BE USED FOR DESIGN. AND TYPICALLY WE HAVE DONE THAT HISTORICALLY HERE AND WHERE I'VE BEEN ELSEWHERE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. SO I MEAN IT'S IT'S IT'S AN OPTION FOR THOSE DOLLARS. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING. THOSE ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING. I THINK. SO ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE JUST, THEY JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO WHEN THERE IS FUNDING TO MOVE FORWARD. AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOME TIME BEFORE THAT HAPPENS. BUT CAN THEY HAVE THESE PROJECTS AS FAR ALONG IN THE DESIGN PROCESS SO THAT, HEY, ALL OF A SUDDEN, BOOM, A BOND GETS FUNDED, YOU KNOW, BOND ELECTION HAPPENS AND WE FUND THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING A LONG TIME. AND A LOT OF THOSE DOLLARS TOWARDS WHATEVER PORTION OF DESIGN. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET AS FAR ALONG AS THEY CAN WITHOUT HAVING TO START BUILDING THEM. DO YOU ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT FUND FOR PARK REINVESTMENT? I'M JUST WONDERING, ARE THERE CURRENT PARKS THAT COULD USE REINVESTMENT OR EVEN I DON'T I DIDN'T GO TO THE SITE, VISIT THINGS THAT YOU ALL ARE NEEDING NOW FOR PARKS THAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW, WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE TOWN IS FUNDS. IT'S CAPITAL DEDICATED FUNDS. SO BOND DOLLARS CAN BE USED. THEY CAN'T BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE, BUT THEY CAN BE USED FOR RENOVATION OR, YOU KNOW, NEW NEW ITEMS, NEW CAPITAL ITEMS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I ANSWERED THAT VERY WELL. THAT ANSWER. YEAH, I JUST DIDN'T I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER USING IT FOR REINVESTMENT OR IF THERE'S A NEED FOR IT. I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU'RE CONSERVATIVELY FIVE YEARS AWAY FROM BREAKING GROUND ON EITHER OF THESE PROJECTS, IS THE NEED FROM THE COMMUNITY GOING TO CHANGE FOR WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THESE PARKS? IT CERTAINLY COULD. AND AND THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING. SO IF WE DECIDED WHO RAYMOND'S ARE OVERRUN ON RACQUETBALL AND TENNIS, COULD WE COME BACK? AND I FORGET WHAT THE NUMBER WAS. I THINK IT WAS AROUND SIX, $700,000 TO BUILD THOSE THE TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL. IF I

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SO YES, WE COULD OR AN EXISTING PARK THAT WAS BUILT 15 YEARS AGO SAID, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A PICKLEBALL COURT THERE OR THE COMMUNITY'S WANTS ONE OR FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU COULD USE THOSE DOLLARS TO DO THAT. WELL, I KNOW, IS IT PARVIN PARK? YES. THERE WERE SOME AMENITIES THAT WERE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE DESIGN. RIGHT. I THINK FOR COST. BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, ARE THERE OTHER AREAS THAT YOU COULD USE IT WHERE IT I GUESS THE PUBLIC WOULD SEE THE RETURN QUICKER. I DO SEE, I THINK IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO THIS DIRECTION, USE IT FOR DESIGN. I WOULD SECOND WHAT KYLE SUGGESTED, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY SOLD ON USING IT FOR DESIGN, MAYBE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT FOR CURRENT PROJECTS OR REINVESTING IN PARKS SO WE COULD SO MAY NOT GET YOU VERY FAR, RIGHT? SO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WOULD GET YOU. IS IT COOL? RIVER? I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHICH PARK THAT WAS JUST COMPLETED BY BLUE STAR. ONE OF THEM. WE HAVE A. WE. THE PROJECT COULD NOT AFFORD A PLAYGROUND, SO WE LEFT AN AREA OPEN TO COME BACK LATER WITH THE PLAYGROUND. SO YOU COULD USE FUNDS FOR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. YES. SO IF THAT'S IF THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR. SO THEY ASKED ME TO COME BACK, ASK YOU TO PRIORITIZE DOVE RANCH OR WINDSONG. SOUNDS LIKE IF WE'RE REALLY NOT WANTING TO TAKE IT IN AGAIN, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR YOU. I'M JUST TRYING TO REITERATE WHAT WAS SAID. IF WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING AS FAR AS 30%. MAYBE WE TAKE THEM TO SCHEMATIC OR DESIGN. WE THINK WE'LL STILL HAVE FUNDS AND THEN WE'D LIKE. SO IF THAT'S YOUR PRIORITY. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE, HEY, LET'S USE THOSE DOLLARS TO SUPPLEMENT OTHER PARKS WHERE THEY HAVE NEEDS. THAT COULD ALSO BE A RECOMMENDATION BY THE PARKS BOARD, OR AT LEAST CONSIDER IT LIKE IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT COULD BE USED. LIKE I SAID, $4 MILLION WON'T GET YOU AS FAR AS YOU WOULD HOPE. AND IF IT, IF IT'S NOT WORTH IT, THEN YEAH, INVEST IT IN SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GET YOU SOMEWHERE IN THE LONG RUN. YEAH, I AGREE. I MEAN, KYLE BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, THE AVENUES THAT YOU GET TO A CERTAIN POINT. YOU SPENT YOUR MONEY. RIGHT. AND IT'S NOT REALLY TO A POINT WHERE YOU REALLY GAINED ANY TRACTION ON WHAT YOUR END GOAL IS. AND THEN KERRY BRINGING UP SOME POINTS, I, WE APPROVED SHADIK PARK, BUT WITH NOTHING ON IT. RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, MAYBE THE CITIZENS OF, OF PROSPER AND OF THAT COMMUNITY AND I KNOW I'M WAY OFF BASE HERE, BUT YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT A BUCKET WITH $4 MILLION OF, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY OPPORTUNITY. I MEAN, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO THROW A MILLION BUCKS AT SHATTUCK PARK AND COMPLETE IT. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, 700,000 FOR SOME PICKLEBALL COURTS. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU PUT PICKLEBALL COURTS AT SHATTUCK, RIGHT? I HAVE NO IDEA. BUT. YEAH, THANK YOU. BECAUSE Y'ALL'S COMMENTS REALLY HELPED ME TO SAY, YEAH, I GET THE REC CENTER DEAL. I LIKE BREAKING PARKS UP INTO STAGES OR SEGMENTS BECAUSE I THINK YOUR DOLLARS MIGHT GO FARTHER, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DO THAT.

BUT THEN IF IT CAN'T BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE, BECAUSE I WAS THINKING OF MY WALK WITH MATT FUR, BUT IT CAN'T BE USED FOR THAT. BUT IT CAN BE USED FOR RENOVATION, YOU KNOW. RIGHT.

THE THE DETAILS. YES. SO I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I THINK MAYBE WE COULD RENOVATE AND COMPLETE SOME. OKAY, THE PARKS ARE ALREADY. SO WHAT I MIGHT RECOMMEND IF THAT'S IF THAT'S HOW YOU ALL FEEL, YOU CAN MAKE A GENERALIZED STATEMENT BASICALLY SAYING, WE'D RATHER SEE THOSE DOLLARS GO TOWARDS FILLING HOLES IN EXISTING PARKS, AND THAT STAFF WOULD BRING THOSE IDEAS TO YOU LATER. IF IF THOSE FUNDS ARE APPROVED FOR THAT USE, WE WOULD COME TO YOU LATER WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS PARK WAS BUILT, COULDN'T AFFORD A PLAYGROUND. WE'D LIKE, WE'D LOVE TO SEE A PLAYGROUND OVER THERE. THERE'S NOTHING AROUND. THERE'S MORE NEWS ON WHAT WAS GOING TO BE SHADIK. NOW IT'S GOING TO STAY CREEKSIDE, AND LOOKS LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH FUNDS TO ACTUALLY GET IT

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AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. SO IF YOU ALL AGREE, THEN YOU CAN WE CAN MAKE YOU.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GO WITH THAT. YOU SAY, HEY, WE SAW WHAT YOU PUT UP THERE. WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. WE'RE GOOD WITH TAKING BOTH AS FAR AS WE CAN GET. IF IT'S DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN LET'S LOOK TO FILL HOLES IN EXISTING PARKS. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. I KNOW THAT RENOVATION CAN'T. I MEAN, RENOVATION CAN BE USED, BUT NOT FOR MAINTENANCE. BUT THAT WALL THAT MATT TALKED ABOUT BUILDING, COULD THAT BE CONSIDERED RENOVATION? CAN WE PUT THAT IN AS A PART OF IT? IF IT'S SOMETHING NEW THAT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE, IT'S GOING TO BE A NEW WALL, RIGHT? AM I RIGHT? SO I BELIEVE THAT WOULD QUALIFY IF THERE WAS A WALL OUT THERE THAT OBVIOUSLY IN A BRAND NEW PARK, THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE CASE. LET'S SAY IT'S AN OLDER PARK.

WE HAD A WALL THAT WAS KIND OF FALLING APART AND WE WANTED TO REPAIR IT. WE COULDN'T DO THAT.

YEAH, BUT THIS IS A NEW THIS WOULD BE EXTENDED WALLS TO KEEP THEM. SO YES, I THINK THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR IT. AND THEN AGAIN, WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU WITH MAYBE A LIST OF HOWEVER MANY ITEMS AND GO, HERE'S WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDS. YOU GUYS TELL US HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT OR REORDER THEM OR WHAT HAVE YOU. YEAH, I THINK LIKE A LIST OF WHAT IS NEEDED OR WHAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE WITH THAT $4 MILLION, ALMOST LIKE A MENU OF LIKE WHAT COULD BE DONE, AND THEN WE COULD CONSIDER WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE. AND IF IT CAN BE USED FOR THOSE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $150,000 FOR A FENCE. WE'VE GOT $4 MILLION RIGHT HERE.

BUT CAN IT BE USED FOR THINGS LIKE THAT? AND THEN WHEN DOES IT HAVE TO BE SPENT BY IS THERE A TIMELINE FOR THE MONIES TO BE USED? I'M SURE THERE IS A A END GOAL. YES. AND THERE IS ALSO YOU WANT TO GET THOSE DOLLARS OFF THE BOOKS AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TOO. SO YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY. BUT IF YOU COME BACK WITH SAYING, HEY, WE COULD PUT A PAVILION AT THIS PARK FOR THIS MUCH, A PLAYGROUND AT THIS PARK FOR THIS MUCH, A FENCE HERE FOR THIS MUCH, YOU KNOW, OR A SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR THIS MUCH FOR BOTH OF THESE PARKS. I THINK IT WOULD HELP US MAKE A BETTER EDUCATED LIKE RECOMMENDATION. SURE. IF THAT'S HOW IF THE BOARD AGREES WITH THAT, MAKE THE MOTION AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. OKAY. SO I THINK WHAT I HEAR IS A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK IN APRIL OR WHAT MONTH DO WE NEED TO ■DEFINO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS REALLY I NEED TO KNOW BASICALLY WHAT WAS JUST SAID, RIGHT? OKAY. KYLE AND CARRIE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO VERBALIZE THAT. AND THEN IF THOSE DOLLARS ARE STILL AVAILABLE TO DO THESE THINGS AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE IT. THEY WERE JUST ASKING IF WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO CHOOSE TO MOVE THE FUNDING TOWARDS THOSE ITEMS. THEY WANT TO KNOW WHICH PARK FIRST. SO I THINK WE COULD COME BACK AND SAY, LISTEN, WE FEEL EQUALLY ABOUT BOTH PARKS AND THAT FOR REALLY GOOD REASONS. AND I CAN REITERATE THOSE THAT WE DON'T FEEL IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AS FAR AS THE 30% PLAN BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT WITH WITH THE TEAMS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.

IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE TOO FAR. WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE EXPENSES LATER. SO TO TAKE IT UP, TAKE THE DESIGN AS FAR AS IT MAKES SENSE. SPLIT THOSE DOLLARS BETWEEN THE TWO PARKS, BUT THEN USE WHATEVER FUNDING IS EITHER LEFT OVER OR UNLESS YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE THOSE ITEMS IN FRONT OF THE DESIGN, THEN WE WOULD BRING THAT. ONCE WE KNOW THOSE DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE, WE WOULD BRING THAT LIST OF PROJECTS IT'S GOING TO. IT WOULDN'T BE APRIL BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME FOR US. IF I GET THE THUMBS UP TOMORROW, YEAH, WE'VE GOT TO GO GET PRICING AND WE NEED TO TALK TO STAFF TO DETERMINE WHAT DO WE FEEL ARE THE BIGGEST NEEDS AT THIS TIME. SO I TAKE IT THAT MAY COME TO YOU AFTER I'M GONE, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CARRIED THROUGH THAT POINT. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO CIP. WAS IT WAS I THINK JUST YOU CAN ASK FOR A MOTION LIKE BRING THAT MAKING, MAKING A MOTION TO MOVE BOTH PARK DESIGNS FORWARD TO A MILESTONE DELIVERABLE. THAT ALIGNS WITH STAFF'S NEEDS AND PRIORITIZING. I. I WOULD HONESTLY PRIORITIZE THE PARK STUFF BEFORE THE

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NO, WE CAN DO THAT. AND AND I CAN COME BACK MAYBE FIRST OF ALL, IT ALLOWED ME TO AT LEAST GO BACK AND TALK WITH WITH MY SUPERIORS AND GO, LISTEN, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT THIS WAY.

RIGHT. THEY'VE GOT SOME OTHER IDEAS. AND THEN GET SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS TO YOU AND SEE IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. AND IF WE'RE NOT SEEING WHAT THEY SEE, THAT'S COOL. YEAH. LET US KNOW.

IT'S JUST I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE GET A LOT. THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WANT AND THIS IS PERFECT. SO I CAN, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THIS BACK. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL FIGURE OUT AFTER I TAKE THAT BACK. LET ME JUST SAY NEVER MIND. WE'RE NOT. BUT I DOUBT THAT. BUT JUST THOSE DOLLARS ARE STILL THERE. SO IF WE HAVE SOME OTHER IDEAS, THEY MAY GO, OKAY, HEY, WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT. LET'S MOVE FORWARD. STAFF CAN COME BACK AND REPORT AND THEN START WORKING ON SOME LISTS IF WE WANT TO START PLUGGING IT, YOU KNOW, FILLING HOLES, I SHOULD SAY. JUST A MINUTE. USING EXISTING PARKS. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO TABLE THIS FOR ARE WE GOING TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH OR ARE WE GOING TO COME BACK FUTURE MONTHS? IT JUST KIND OF MAYBE IF YOU WANT TO CALL FUTURE MONTHS AND WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN TO GET IT TO YOU AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, FUTURE MONTHS TO BRING THESE DECISIONS BACK ON WHAT KYLE AND CARRIE DISCUSSED TO BETTER HAVE AN WITH THE BOND INFORMATION ALSO PACKAGED IN THAT. SO WE CAN DECIDE IN A MORE CLEAR AND FOCUSED MANNER, PERFECT MOTION CARRIES AND THEN KYLE IS THE SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR WITH THE VISUAL ONE AND I. NONE AGAIN SIX ZERO. SEE YOU LATER. THANKS, MAN. THANKS, KYLE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON THE AGENDA WE SEE STAFF UPDATES.

[6. Receive staff updates: Recreation, Park Development, Park Operations, and Director.]

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THE WELL PUMPS START CONSTRUCTION HERE SOON, VERY, VERY SOON. SO HOPEFULLY THEY'VE BROKEN GROUND AND ARE MOVING ON IT BEFORE NEXT MEETING. AND WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT. ON THAT PUNCH LIST. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE I TOOK MY GRANDKIDS OUT THERE. THERE'S A THERE'S A LITTLE PUSHING GAME THING THAT YOU DO AND IT DOESN'T LIGHT UP.

IT WAS LATE AFTERNOON AND WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS SO BRIGHT WITH THE SUN. BUT I'M WONDERING IF YOU GUYS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN OUT THERE AND TESTED THAT. MAKE SURE I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T. OKAY. WE'LL CHECK. IT COULD BE A POWER ISSUE OR MAYBE SOMETHING WAS TURNED OFF OR WHAT? WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. OKAY. WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S 100% I BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION. OKAY. BUT I WANT TO KNOW YOUR SCORE WHEN WHEN WE GET THAT UP AND RUNNING. SO FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING WAS REALLY WONDERFUL. GOOD. MY WIFE HAS AND LIVES BY A MOTTO. BETTER LATE THAN UGLY. AND I THINK WE'VE WE'VE NOT MET TIMELINES ON RAYMOND PARK, BUT PERSONALLY, I COULD LIKE REALLY GIVE A RIP. I THINK IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PARK. IT FAR EXCEEDS WHAT I FELT IT WAS GOING TO DO. THE COURTS, THE PLAYGROUND, THE HARDSCAPING LOOKS MORE LIKE A COUNTRY CLUB THAN IT DOES A TOWN PARK. SO CHEERS TO YOU MY FRIEND AND EVERYBODY THAT WORKED ON IT. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. YEAH, MATT AND KURT DESERVE A LOT OF CREDIT. AND RANDY, THEY'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME. SO YEAH. SO WE'RE WE'RE EXCITED. IT'S. I DROVE BY THERE AROUND ONE 130 TODAY. THE PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS COURTS WERE FULL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING FOR JOBS, BUT THEY WERE OUT THERE AND IT WAS IT WAS HOPPING. SO IT WAS FULL WHEN I CAME UP FOR THE MEETING TONIGHT. YEAH. FULL PARKING LOT. I GOT A CALL FROM A GENTLEMAN.

WHAT TIME DO YOU TURN THE LIGHTS ON? I SAID, SHOULD COME ON ABOUT SUNSET. NO, NO, NO, IN THE MORNING. I SAID, WE DON'T TURN LIGHTS ON IN THE MORNING. I SAID, THE PARK DOESN'T OPEN UNTIL SUNRISE. AND HE GOES, OH YEAH, WE'RE USUALLY OUT THERE. 530 I SAID, NO, THEY'RE NOT OPEN AT THAT TIME. BUT HE GOES, SO I GET IT. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SUMMER COMING, BUT UNLIKE PICKLEBALL. YEAH. BUT YEAH, IT'S IT'S ALREADY GETTING A LOT OF USE. SO WE'RE EXCITED.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH MORE TO GO. AND THAT THING WILL BE 100%. SO WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. SO OKAY, LET ME GIVE YOU THE LAST ONE. THIS IS ALSO A LITTLE BIT THIS IS KIND OF EXCITING, MUCH SMALLER PROJECT, BUT IS EVERYBODY FAMILIAR WITH WHERE PARK AND PARK IS? RIGHT UP, RIGHT UP THE HILL ON BROADWAY, CHURCH STREET, BETWEEN CHURCH STREET AND PARK.

AND WE HAD OUR PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING ON MONDAY. AND CONSTRUCTION. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN OUT THERE TO DO SOME SITE WORK, BUT CONSTRUCTION SHOULD START OFFICIALLY TOMORROW. SO AS YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND TOWN, YOU'LL START TO SEE WORK GOING HAPPENING ON THAT. THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE ABOUT A 4 TO 5 MONTH PROJECT. SO REALLY YOU'RE TALKING LOOP TRAIL, PLAYGROUND AND SOME, SOME MINOR STUFF, BUT THAT'LL BE REALLY KIND OF A GOOD LOOKING PARK TOO. AND WE'RE DONE. AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF NEAT FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT ONE THAT THAT ONE'S GETTING READY TO GO. ANY QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY. ANY QUESTIONS ON PARVIN. WELL WE'LL

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SO THEY, THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB. EVERYTHING WAS THERE EARLY. EVERYTHING WAS SET UP AS FAR AS THE FOOD AND THE TABLES AND EVERYTHING WELL BEFORE. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE MORE SMOOTHER SETUPS THAT WE'VE HAD AT THAT EVENT. AGAIN, THANK YOU TO PROSPER FIRE. EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN WITH THE TOWN, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS EVENT AT FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO. SO THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE AND WORKING WITH US, MOVING OUT THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES, MAKING SURE TO, YOU KNOW, THE WAY CHIEF RUNS, RUNS HIS PROGRAM IS THEY MADE SURE TO MOP THE FLOORS AND EVERYTHING THE MORNING OF BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THE TOWN. BUT IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. WE WRAPPED UP AROUND 1045 OR SO, HAD ABOUT 20 MINUTES OF QUESTIONS. THANK YOU TO ANY PARK, PARKS, RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS THAT WERE PRESENT. WE DO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THERE. BUT YEAH, IT WAS ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL EVENT. OUR NEXT ONE, BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE TWO EVERY YEAR. WE ALWAYS HAVE OUR LUNCHEON, WHICH IS ALWAYS MID OCTOBER ON A WEDNESDAY, AND WE HAVE OUR COFFEE, WHICH CAN KIND OF IT DEPENDS, BUT USUALLY WE TRY AND DO IT IN MID MARCH AS WELL. SO THE NEXT ONE WILL BE, LIKE I SAID, IN OCTOBER 2026, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. AND I DON'T HAVE WE HAD A PHOTOGRAPHER, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATED PICTURES BECAUSE I WASN'T TAKING PICTURES MYSELF.

SO I WISH I HAD HAD SOME. WE DID HAVE ONE, BUT IT WASN'T THE MOST FAVORABLE, SO I FIGURED WE WOULD JUST NOT DO THAT AND STAY AWAY FROM THAT ONE. WELL, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU.

IT WAS REALLY WELL DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. OUR NEW RECREATION COORDINATOR, ALBERTO VELEZ, WAS THERE TO HELP. HE HELPED SECURE A PARTNERSHIP WITH STARBUCKS WHERE THEY DONATED THE COFFEE FOR THAT EVENT. AND SO HE WAS A HUGE HELP AS WELL. WE ARE RUNNING ONE PERSON SHORT RIGHT NOW, SO HE KIND OF HELPED STEP UP. TY STEVENSON SHE CAME OVER AND SHE WAS A HUGE HELP AS WELL. SO IT'S JUST A IT'S A TEAM EFFORT AND TAKES SOME OF THOSE THINGS TOO. YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT TO GET UP EARLY ONE DAY, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT DOWN THE ROAD. BUT NO, IT WAS IT WAS A GREAT EVENT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE IN OCTOBER. AND SO WE ARE OFFICIALLY IN THE FINALIZING FINAL STAGE OF PLANNING FOR OUR SUMMER 2026 PROGRAMS. THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR DESIGN FOR OUR ANY KIND OF ADVERTISING, YOU SEE. AND THEN ALSO WE WILL HAVE SOME MAILERS GOING OUT AND THIS IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE USUAL AS FAR AS THE TYPES OF PROGRAMS WE'RE GOING TO OFFER. I SAY STEM STEAM. I JUST GO WITH STEAM NOW BECAUSE WE'RE JUST THROWING AN A IN THERE FOR OUR.

WE HAVE SOME DRONE PROGRAMS, SOME CODING SPORTS AND FITNESS, EDUCATIONAL MAGIC, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROGRAMS THAT WE'LL BE OFFERING. AND THEN LIKE I MENTIONED IN OUR PAST MEETING, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH RAY'S MILL BAPTIST CHURCH AND THEN SAINT PAUL'S EPISCOPAL AS WELL. THEY'RE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL FACILITY SPACE FOR US BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE FILL OUT THE 407 REC CENTER FROM JUNE TO AUGUST. AND THEN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE INSTRUCTORS ARE LIKE, HEY, I COULD FILL YOU UP FOR THREE MONTHS WORTH IF YOU IF YOU LET ME. BUT WE DO WANT TO BE FAIR. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF SHARING THE WEALTH THERE, MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT PROGRAMS ARE RUNNING MORE THAN OTHERS. BUT THAT IS HELPFUL WHEN WE DO WORK WITH THOSE GROUPS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL SPACE, BECAUSE IN THE END, THAT'S IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE PROGRAM THAN TO TURN

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BUT IT'S STILL WORTH KEEPING NOTICE OF WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE. PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING, NOT NECESSARILY PEOPLE THAT PAID IN THERE IN THE BUILDING AS WELL. SO WE, WE DO KEEP THOSE TWO. WE DO KEEP THOSE TWO NUMBERS A LITTLE SEPARATE, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF UNDERSTANDING OF LIKE, IT'D BE EASY TO SAY, YEAH, WE GET 2000 PEOPLE EVERY YEAR. WELL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING THOSE IN THE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF WHERE THOSE NUMBERS ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE. WE'RE NOT JUST PADDING THOSE NUMBERS TO MAKE OUR SELVES LOOK LIKE WE'RE BUSIER THAN WE REALLY ARE. BUT YEAH, SO 1400 IS THE NUMBER AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET PAST IT. AND STARTING FIRST WEEK OF JUNE IS WHEN WE'LL BE STARTING FOR CLASSES. ANY QUESTIONS FOR TREVOR? I APPRECIATE IT. TREVOR. AND YESTERDAY'S PROGRAM AT MAYOR'S COFFEE WENT REALLY SMOOTHLY AND WELL. THANK YOU. YEAH, IT DID APPRECIATE IT. IT FELT GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP WE HAVE PARK OPERATIONS WITH MATT FOR. OKAY. YOU'LL HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME TONIGHT. I MIGHT BE UP HERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE. SO I TAKE THE BUDGET PROCESS PRETTY SERIOUS. SO I WANT TO GO OVER A LOT OF THINGS WITH YOU ALL, BUT WE'LL GO THROUGH THE SLIDE FIRST. SO THIS IS AT RAYMOND. IF ANYBODY HASN'T BEEN OUT THERE YET. SO THE RIGHT PICTURE, THIS IS A NEW HYBRID BERMUDA CALLED TIFF TOUGH. IT'S HASN'T BEEN ON THE MARKET BUT MAYBE 3 OR 4 YEARS. SO WE'RE 1ST OF MARCH. AND THAT RIGHT THERE LOOKS LIKE I OVERSEE IT WITH RYEGRASS. THAT'S NOT NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. SO THAT IS A TESTAMENT TO WHAT THIS CAN BE. COULD BE IS I DON'T KNOW YET BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS AND IT'S PRETTY NEW GRASS. BUT TO GREEN UP THAT FAST, JUST FROM RIBBON CUTTING TO BASICALLY YESTERDAY THAT WAS TAKEN YESTERDAY. THAT'S NO FERTILIZER. THAT'S NO TOPDRESSING, THAT'S NO MAINTENANCE, NO MOWING YET. I'LL START MOWING IT NEXT MONDAY. SO I CAN'T BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I KNOW I'M A TURF NUT HERE, BUT THAT'S PRETTY COOL STUFF. ONE ON THE LEFT. YOU KNOW, I'M ASSUMING EVERYBODY KIND OF GOT TO WALK DURING THE RIBBON CUTTING, BUT IT'S IT'S A PRETTY NEAT LITTLE AREA AROUND THE, THE HUB, ALL FOUR FIELDS.

NEXT WEEK WE START PUTTING IN ALL THE BASES, THE HOME PLATES. WE HAVE THE PITCH AND MOUNTS.

WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO SHOW EXACTLY HOW WE DO IT, HOW I WANT IT DONE, VERSUS HOW HE WANTS IT DONE. SO I WANT ON THAT. SO HE'S HE'S BUYING A FEW EXTRA THINGS FOR US. IT'LL BE GOOD. OKAY. GET KIND OF INTO THE BUDGET AREA. SO FOR THOSE THAT GOT TO MEET ME AT FRONTIER THAT DAY, I APPRECIATE IT. AND I KNOW EVERYBODY ELSE HAS GOT JOBS AND BUSY CAN'T DO IT. BUT THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO TAKE SOME PICTURES AND REALLY SHOW Y'ALL WHAT'S GOING ON. THE FIRST PICTURE RIGHT THERE. SO JUST YOU CAN SEE THE THE BUSHES AT THE TOP LEFT TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS THE PLAYGROUND. AND THIS IS THE CENTER OF THE FIVE

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SO WHAT HAPPENS? IT COMES OFF THE TOP OF THE BUILDING, HITS THE GUTTER, THEN OVER OVERFLOWS INTO THE CONCRETE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT ALL THAT DEAD GRASS IS. THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING IS SINKING AND WASHED AWAY AND IT'S GONE BECAUSE OF THE EROSION CREATED BY THE RUNOFF.

EVEN THOUGH THEY THOUGHT WE WERE DOING GOOD AND PUT THREE INCH, YOU KNOW, GUTTERS, IT'S JUST NOT BIG ENOUGH. SO I'VE GOT OUT THE CONTRACTOR, THE PRICING, AND NOW I WANTED TO PUT IN JUST TWO. I EXPLAINED TO Y'ALL, I JUST WANTED TO PUT TWO. I THOUGHT I HAD TWO GOOD PLANS.

HE'S LIKE FOR THIS SIZE IN HIS PROFESSIONAL OPINION. HE SUGGESTED PUTTING THREE BASICALLY RIGHT THERE THAT. SO YOU SEE THE ONE GUTTER. GO TO THE NEXT COLUMN, PUT ONE THERE, ONE IN THE MIDDLE WHERE I SUGGESTED OF OF YOUR WALK DEAD CENTER, MIDDLE, AND THEN ONE OPPOSITE END OF THIS RIGHT HERE. SO THAT WOULD GET ALL THREE. AND THE REASON WHY HE SAID THIS ONCE HE GOT ON TOP OF THE ROOF, WHICH WE NEVER DO UNLESS WE'RE GETTING THE BALL OUT OF THE GUTTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE IT'S NOT ALL DOING THIS OR IT'S NOT ALL DOING THIS, IT'S DOING THIS. SO IT'S SAGGING. SO WHERE HE WOULD PUT THOSE, WHERE EVERYTHING IS REALLY TRYING TO GO TO ANYWAY. SO THAT WOULD, IN HIS OPINION, FIX THE WATER PROBLEMS. AND LIKE I SAID, WE IF WE DON'T FIX THE WATER PROBLEMS FIRST, WE'RE JUST SPINNING OUR WHEELS. WE GOT TO FIX THE WATER ISSUE COMING OFF THE TOP BEFORE I CAN FIX THE WINGS. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE IN THE LEFT PICTURE, THAT'S ALL THE FOAM, THE YELLOW. THAT'S HOW MANY TIMES THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT LEVELED EVERYTHING BACK UP. AND IT'S JUST WE'RE AT A POINT THAT WE

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SO NOW I'M GOING OUT AND GETTING ALL THE PRICING FOR ALL THE MEDIANS THAT WERE GIVEN TO US, THE DIFFERENT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CALLED. IT'S NOT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS LIKE WHITLEY PLACE, TRIANGLE, STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BUDGETED FOR. BUT NOW IT'S FIXING TO BE GOING. SO I'M GOING OUT AND GETTING ALL THE PRICING, BUT ALL THAT BUDGET MONEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING THE WATER, ELECTRICITY FOR THE CONTROLLERS, CHEMICAL FERTILIZER, MULCH, PLANT REPLACEMENTS, TOP DRESSING, MOWING, ANYTHING THAT I DEAL WITH. I'VE GOT TO GO OUT AND GET NEW NUMBERS FOR ALL NINE OF THESE PROPERTIES. WELL, THE MEDIANS ARE JUST GOING TO KEEP ON ON GOING. SO WE'VE GOT NEXT YEAR CODE FROM FIRST STREET TO PROSPERO TRAIL. THAT'S THAT'LL BE FINISHED. SO I'M GETTING, YOU KNOW, ROUGH NUMBERS NOW BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN IT'S NOT EVEN FINISHED UNTIL THE END OF 27. AND THEN WE'VE GOT MAY HARD WILL BE CONTINUED ON. POSSIBLY THEY WERE SAYING SHAWNEE TRAIL, SHAWNEE, I THINK OUT THERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EXTENDING THAT TO FIRST STREET. SO THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S COMING ON. AND NOW I THINK THIS YEAR WE'VE GOT PRAIRIE THE LANDSCAPING AT TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THEN MAHA TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'M WORKING ON BUDGET WISE NOW. I'M NOT REALLY LOOKING TO ADD PERSONNEL. THIS IS MAINLY ALL CONTRACT SERVICES THAT I'LL BE ASKING FOR. CONTRACT MONEY. REALLY, THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO BE ASKING FOR IS A FEW MORE VEHICLES TO GET, BECAUSE I DID GET THE THREE FOR RAYMOND, AND NOW I'VE GOT TWO MORE CHEMICAL TECH AND AN IRRIGATION TECH THAT WE HOPEFULLY WILL START IN APRIL. BUT ALL THAT COMES WITH TRUCKS. FOR SOME REASON, WE GOT THE TRUCKS GOT TAKEN OUT, SO I'VE GOT TO PUT THEM BACK IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR THE

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SO I PUT IN PERSPECTIVE A NEW MOWER FOR THAT COMPLEX FOR WHAT WE USED TO USE AT FRONTIER. BUT WE STILL USE OTHER PLACES BUT DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO OVER THERE. THAT'S STILL $110,000 JUST FOR THE MOWER, AND YOU GOT TO PUT A TRAILER, THEN YOU GOT TO PUT AN EMPLOYEE, THEN YOU'VE GOT ALL THE FUEL, THEN YOU'VE GOT COMPENSATION AND ALL THE THINGS. SO YOU'RE WELL OVER THAT $120,000 THAT THIS WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF ALMOST YEAR ONE. WELL, IT WOULD YEAR ONE AFTER WE DID ALL THE OTHER HUMAN STUFF. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT I'M PUTTING IN BUDGET THIS YEAR. HOPEFULLY. IN THE MEANTIME, SINCE I DON'T HAVE THAT, WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH, THE ROBOT WILL TRY TO, TO MAP OUT AND ONLY DO THE INFILLS ONE ROBOT. I FEEL LIKE THE ROBOT CAN DO EVERYTHING FROM THE DIRT END, AND THEN MY GUYS WILL HAVE TO ALTERNATE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO CAN GO OUT, AND I MIGHT BE OUT THERE MOWING. ONE OF MY CREW LEADERS MIGHT BE OUT THERE MOWING DURING CERTAIN TIMES, AND ONLY DO THE OUTFIELDS WITH THE MOWER THAT WE HAVE NOW. SO THAT WILL GET US THROUGH AT LEAST THIS YEAR, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET SOME SOME MONEY APPROVED FOR IT. GOING BACK TO THE CAPITOL, I'M GOING TO BE PUTTING IN FOR THE WHITLEY PLACE BRIDGE. ONCE THAT FLOOD THAT HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AGO OR, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE LOST TWO TREES. AND SO UNDERNEATH I DON'T HAVE ANY PICTURES OF IT. I THINK I'VE KIND OF SHOWED Y'ALL BEFORE, BUT UNDERNEATH IS ERODED EVERYTHING AWAY. IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS. SO WE'LL KIND OF GO BACK UP. WHAT KURT DID AT DOE BRANCH BUILT THE RETAINING WALLS WITH I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE CALLED.

THERE YOU GO. THAT TO FIX THOSE PROBLEMS, IT'S ONLY ON ONE SIDE. IT HASN'T ERODED THE OTHER SIDE.

SO THE ENGINEERS DID NOT THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO BOTH SIDES, JUST DO THE ONE, BUT THAT IF I CAN REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT WAS RIGHT AROUND 275. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY BIG PROJECT FOR THAT. BUT AGAIN, I'LL PUT EVERYTHING IN THE BUDGET. HOPEFULLY THEY'LL LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF SAID, NOPE, WE CAN DO CAPITAL. WE CAN DO, I DON'T KNOW, BOND MONEY. WE CAN DO SOMETHING AND TRY TO GET THIS REALLY GOING NOW BECAUSE OTHERWISE MY, MY BASE BUDGET WOULD GO UP A LOT FOR ALL THIS. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON. IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THEM. I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO THE THE $8,000 FOR THE GUTTERS, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ALL CAN DO NOW? I'M HOPING SO.

I'M, I'M WORKING ON IT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S CHEAP ENOUGH. I DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND DO A COMPETITIVE BID OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NO, WE, I MIGHT I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT EARLIER THIS WEEK. I WILL FIND THOSE DOLLARS. THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A IN THE BIG PICTURE, A BIG EXPENSE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO WE'LL WE'LL START WORKING ON THAT. BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE THING, IF THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, THEN I COULD REALLY. I REALLY NEED THE OTHER GUTTERS FOR FRONTIER NORTH, THE, THE ARTIFICIAL FIELDS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ZERO. SO EVERY ONE OF THOSE THAT'S ALREADY CRACKING AND EVERY TIME IT JUST RAINS OR MIST OR SPRINKLES, ALL THAT'S JUST GOING STRAIGHT INTO THOSE CRACKS, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATE. BUT YES, TO FIX THAT, I THINK, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT NOW. AND DO YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME. I KNOW YOU'RE DOING INSPECTIONS ON ALL YOUR NEW PROPERTIES. YOU DO IT ON ALL THE REST OF THE PROPERTIES TOO, LIKE A STATUS OF WHAT THE CONCRETE IS ON AT THE REST OF THE PARK. SO I GUESS THE SCOPE OF THIS EVEN LARGER THAN JUST FRONTIER. YES.

YEAH. THIS YEAR I WELL, AND MOST OF THEM, THIS IS THE OLDEST PARK THAT WE HAVE ON THIS. OKAY, SO THIS IS REALLY NEEDS THE ATTENTION BECAUSE NOW JUST NOT, NOT JUST IN THE, THE,

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NOTHING IS SUNK. IF YOU GO AND LOOK AT ALL OUR MEDIANS IN TOWN, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.

HOWEVER, ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE TRYING TO FIX OUR WATER PROBLEM OUT THERE, THIS HAS BEEN OVER YEARS, BUT FIXING OUR PROBLEM NOW, TWO YEARS AGO WAS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EVER HAD TO COME OUT AND SPRAY. WE WERE EXCITED. WE FINALLY GOT SOMETHING TO GROW IN OUR WATER OR THE POND OUT THERE. SO NOW WE'VE GOT A LITTLE CATTAIL AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MOSS AND A FEW OTHER AQUATIC PLANTS THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD. SO SOMETHING'S WORKING. BUT WE'LL HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND BASICALLY REDO ALL THE BRING IN MORE SOIL, RESTORED. EVERYTHING.

IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT ALL IN HOUSE. I WOULD LIKE TO, BUT MAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A LOT. I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU HAD MENTIONED AT RAYMOND THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE GUTTERS IN PLACE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE BUDGETED NOW? SO WE AVOID THIS PROBLEM 15 YEARS, SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. AND IF IF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE BOND MONEY OR WHATEVER THAT WAS NEEDED THAT WE DIDN'T GET DONE, I DON'T KNOW, WE'LL DISCUSS IT, BUT WELL, WE WILL LOOK FOR FUNDS IF WE HAVE ANYTHING LEFT OVER WITH THIS. WE OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AT RAYMOND WHEN WHEN THE PROJECT IS OFFICIALLY DONE, THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. SO WE'LL LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT LEFT IN THE PROJECT BUDGET AND IF SOMETHING WE CAN AFFORD FOR THAT PROJECT BUDGET, YES. IF WE CAN'T, THEN WE WILL CERTAINLY BUDGET FOR THEM AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE WANT, WE WANT TO WE DON'T WANT IT TO COME BACK AND. WE DON'T WANT IT TO BREAK RIGHT. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND FIX IT LATER IF WE CAN PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING. SO YES, BECAUSE I GUESS FRONTIER NORTH WE'VE HAD FOR. WERE YOU HERE WHEN THEY BUILT IT? NO. SO I THINK IT'S BEEN HERE FIVE, SIX YEARS WITH NO GUTTERS. AND IT'S IT'S ALREADY BUSTED UP. THIS HAD GUTTERS AND IT'S TAKEN, YOU KNOW, A GOOD TEN BEFORE WE'RE GETTING TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED AND EMAIL ME ANYTHING, WHATEVER YOU WANT. I KNOW YOUR TAX DOLLARS. I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO AS I'VE MOVED FORWARD AND BUDGET STUFF. IT OPENED TODAY AND WE HAD A GOOD BUDGET MEETING. AND SO THIS IS ALL THE STUFF THAT I'M, I'M REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON. APPRECIATE IT MA'AM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA IS DIRECTOR DAN BECKER. OKAY. NOT NOT A WHOLE LOT FOR YOU TONIGHT. SO JUST REALLY UPCOMING CALENDAR. WE'VE GOT THE TOWN THROW DOWN. TREVOR TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT MARCH 28TH. STILL HAVE ROOM ON OUR SIGN UP. SO ANY OF YOU GUYS WANT TO COME OUT AND TEST THE COURTS. COME ON OUT. IT'S GOING TO BE COED THOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO BE COED. YES. YES. THAT'S MY PROBLEM IS FINDING THE THE FEMALE COMPANION THAT WANTS TO PLAY. YES. THREE ON THE BOARD RIGHT HERE. JUST. YEAH. I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER.

OKAY. SO NEXT PARKS AND REC BOARD MEETING APRIL 9TH, 6:00 HERE. THE ITEM I DID WANT TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ALL. AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE TONIGHT, MAY 14TH. I HAVE A CONFLICT THAT NIGHT. SO IF IF YOU ALL ARE AMENABLE TO CHANGING. THAT DATE, EITHER WE CAN MOVE IT UP OR BACK A WEEK, WE CAN MOVE IT EARLIER THAT WEEK. LET ME KNOW IF IF YOU PREFER TO KEEP IT ON THE 14TH, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE SOMEONE COVERED. I JUST WON'T BE HERE.

I WOULD APPRECIATE MOVING IT SO BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE YOUR FINAL. IT WILL BE, YES. SO I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO CHECK ON THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WHICH DIRECTION THEY WOULD WANT TO GO WITH THAT. SO YEAH. OKAY. WE CAN, I CAN SEND SOMETHING OUT

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THE LACROSSE BALL. YES, YES. THE SIGNAGE. I DON'T THINK IT'S HARD. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THE SIGNS. WE'VE GOT SOME OLD SIGNS IN OUR SYSTEM AND WE DO PERIODICALLY GO AND REPLACE. THEY DO GET SUN BLEACHED. MATT AND I WILL WORK ON THAT, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. WE'LL ALSO LOOK TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS PROBABLY EVER GOING TO BE 100% SOLVED. WE IT IS OPEN. THOSE AREAS ARE OPEN. TREVOR. ARE THEY RESERVABLE ARE THOSE LACROSSE? NO. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A DESIRABLE ITEM. WE DO NOT ALLOW PRIVATE GROUPS TO COME IN AND DO LESSONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ENFORCEABLE. THAT WAS MORE MY QUESTION BECAUSE THE TWO PEOPLE THAT DID REACH OUT TO US, ONE OF THEM, THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE TONIGHT AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WERE BOTH SAYING THAT THEY'RE RUNNING INTO THAT ISSUE WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO LEAVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE PAID LESSONS. YEAH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO MAKE RESERVABLE IN THE FUTURE. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ROLL UP AND YOU WANT TO USE THOSE AREAS AND SOMEONE'S ALREADY THERE, YOU CAN SHOW THEM YOUR RESERVATION. IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO LEAVE, YOU CALL THE POLICE, THEY COME OUT, HAVE THEM HAVE THEM LEAVE. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO PERIODIC CHECKS, CAN ASK POLICE TO RUN BY AND CHECK. IT'S DIFFICULT THOUGH. IT'S BECAUSE IT'S OPEN. RIGHT? AND YOU WANT PEOPLE IN YOUR PARKS. YOU WANT THEM USING YOUR FACILITIES. BUT IT'S IT'S TOUGH.

AND I KNOW THAT THOSE AREAS ARE DESIGNED FOR LACROSSE. BUT I MEAN, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE. IF I'VE SEEN KIDS OUT THERE KICKING SOCCER BALLS AGAINST IT, IF THEY'RE NOT KEEPING ANYBODY FROM DOING IT, I'M NOT GOING TO RUN THEM. RIGHT. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT THE, THE, THE ONE WAS THAT THE SOCCER KIDS ARE KEEPING THE LACROSSE KIDS FROM GETTING IN. SO YES, IT'S, IT'S A JUGGLING.

IT'S YEAH, IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SIGN IT FOR LACROSSE ONLY. IT'S, IT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO FOLLOW THAT, BUT AT LEAST IT'S, IT MAKES IT EASIER TO ENFORCE IT.

THE FIRST THING TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE A PARK ORDINANCE RULES, THEY HAVE TO BE POSTED. SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT. OKAY. COULD YOU PUT ON THOSE RULES? NO PRIVATE LESSONS OR SOMETHING? YES. AT THIS LOCATION, WE'RE GOING TO I'M GOING TO I CAN'T TELL YOU OFF TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT THAT SIGN SAYS. SO WE'LL WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED.

YEAH, YEAH. IT'S A PROBLEM EVERYWHERE. YEAH. EVERYWHERE. NOT JUST I MEAN, NOT EVERYWHERE IN PROSPER, BUT ALL CITIES DEAL WITH THIS. ALL MUNICIPALITIES DEAL WITH IT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS? MATT HAD MENTIONED THAT WE WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE BUDGET, BUT IS THAT A NEW PROCESS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WILL BRING BACK AS A FUTURE ITEM OR.

I DON'T, NOT NECESSARILY. I THINK WHAT OBVIOUSLY HAS THE LARGEST BUDGET OUT OF PARKS AND REC, AND THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD FOR MOST PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS. I WAS TALKING WITH A COUPLE OF YOU GUYS TONIGHT JUST TALKING ABOUT WE ARE JUST NOW STARTING THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE WILL MOST LIKELY BE ASKED TO KEEP EVERYTHING FLAT. MEANING AND WHEN I HEAR FLAT, SOME PEOPLE HERE MEANS WHATEVER DOLLARS YOU HAD LAST YEAR IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING ON THIS YEAR, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR US. IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THAT, YOU'RE DROPPING LEVEL OF SERVICE. SO WHEN I HEAR FLAT, I COME BACK FLAT LEVELS OF SERVICE. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO MORE PARKS THREE TIMES A WEEK. WE'RE GOING TO MOW THEM ONCE A WEEK. BUT IN ORDER TO MATCH, JUST TALKED ABOUT RAYMOND'S HUGE 70 NEW ACRES THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF.

AND, AND LIKE TYPE A MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE IT'S JUST A, AN

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THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR, BUT OUR INTENT IS TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH MEANS HIS BUDGET'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO UP TO CARRY THAT, WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET BY IN OTHER AREAS WITHOUT CHANGING THOSE NUMBERS. MATT DOESN'T HAVE A CHOICE. HE'S GOT TO ADD THOSE. WHEN DO YOU NEED TO HAVE THE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS? SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS STAFF. BUT THE BUDGETS DO MAY 1ST. BUT I STILL NEED TO GO THROUGH AND REVIEW IT. SO WE'LL PROBABLY PROBABLY MID APRIL TOWARDS THE END OF APRIL I'LL HAVE THEM ALL SUBMIT THEIR BUDGET REQUEST TO ME AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THEM. AND IF YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO THROUGH I KEEP A LIST, THEY KEEP LISTS AND WE GO THROUGH AND GO, OH, WE DIDN'T HIT THAT OR WE MISSED THAT, OR WE NEED TO GET THIS OR, HEY, LET'S CHECK THAT NUMBER. IT DOESN'T LOOK QUITE RIGHT. SO WE'LL SPEND SOME TIME, PROBABLY SECOND, THIRD WEEK OF APRIL GOING THROUGH ALL THAT. SO IT'S A LOT OF WORK. MATT PROBABLY HAS THE THE HARDER JOB BUDGET WISE, JUST BECAUSE HIS STUFF'S CONSTANTLY MOVING. JUST WHAT FUEL COSTS ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, EVERY ONE OF HIS CONTRACTS WILL GO UP AND THEY DON'T CARE. IT DOESN'T. THEY CAN WALK AWAY. THEY CAN SAY, WE DON'T WANT TO RENEW THE CONTRACT HE'S GOT. AND WE LIKE OUR WE LIKE OUR CONTRACT. AND HE DOES A GREAT JOB. AND HE WAS HE'S BEEN THE LOW BIDDER WHEN WE DID THE CONTRACT. BUT YOU THINK ABOUT SOMEONE WHO'S MAINTAINING EVERY MEETING IN THIS TOWN. HOW MANY STAFF, HOW MUCH EQUIPMENT, TRUCKS, MOWERS, THEY'VE ALL PUT FUEL ON THAT.

AND SO IF YOUR FUEL COSTS DOUBLE, WHICH THEY'RE MAYBE NOT QUITE THERE, THAT THERE'S AN IMPACT AND SUPPLIES, RIGHT. WE KNOW FUEL FUEL DICTATES ALMOST EVERYTHING, RIGHT. SHIPPING GOES UP, MANUFACTURING GOES UP. A LOT OF THINGS GET IMPACTED. SO THEY CAN COME BACK TO US AND SAY, LISTEN, IF YOU WANT TO RENEW THIS CONTRACT, WE NEED ANOTHER TWO, THREE, 5% JUST TO COVER OUR FUEL COSTS. AND THAT HAPPENS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, TO, TO KIND OF MANAGE. SO I GUESS KERRY'S NOTE, HOW DO YOU FORESEE KIND OF WHAT HE BROUGHT ABOUT US BEING INVOLVED MORE IN THE BUDGET? I THINK JUST KIND OF WHAT YOU GUYS MEETING HIM IN THE PARK AND WE WE WILL CERTAINLY WE CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK TO YOU ONCE WE'VE GOT OUR FINAL BUDGET. IT'S FAST. SO WE GO THROUGH, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST TELL YOU, HEY, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WE DID, HERE'S WHAT WE WERE, HERE'S WHERE WE WERE AT LAST YEAR, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SUBMITTING THIS YEAR. AND THIS BUDGET REALLY, IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SUMMER. WE'LL MAKE THAT'S WHEN WE FINISH. WHEN WE SUBMIT, WE DO MAY 1ST. THAT'S, HEY, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING. AND TYPICALLY IT GOES BACK AND FORTH A COUPLE TIMES GOING, HEY, YEAH, YOU GOT TO TRIM A LITTLE OFF HERE OR, OR, HEY, THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR HERE? WE THINK THERE MAY BE SOME CAPITAL DOLLARS ELSEWHERE. WE MAY HAVE AN ALTERNATE WAY TO FUND THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO PULL THAT OUT OF THE BASE BUDGET AND FIND SOME WAY ELSE TO PAY FOR THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT THINGS IN RIGHT NOW THAT WE FEEL WE NEED WHEN WHEN WE GET TOWARDS THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR, IF THE NEW DIRECTOR DOES WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR 20 WHATEVER YEARS, WE LOOK AND SEE, HEY, WE MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY HERE. LET'S, LET'S DO THAT, THAT AND THAT. LET'S GET THOSE. AND THEN THOSE CAN COME OUT OF THE BUDGET REQUEST. IT'S EITHER FREE UP DOLLARS FOR SOMETHING ELSE OR JUST LOWER THE BOTTOM LINE. SO, SO IT'S A PROCESS, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY WHAT I DON'T, WHAT I WOULD REQUEST WE DON'T DO IS COME IN AND GO LINE BY LINE ITEM AND TELL YOU, HEY, WE'RE DOING THIS. AND YES, CARRIE KNOWS I WOULD TAKE HOURS, YES, OR DAYS, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN COME IN AND GO, HEY, HERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE COMING IN AT WE'RE COMING IN FLAT HERE OR SAME NUMBER HERE. WE'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER 10% HERE BECAUSE WE ADDED A NEW PARK OR WE, WE NEED NEW EQUIPMENT AND FUEL HAS GONE UP MORE WATER, ALL THESE THINGS.

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YEAH. IF IT COMES THE OTHER WAY AND YOU GET A COUNCILMAN GETS IN HERE AND GOES, HEY, WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU GUYS ARE ASKING FOR A LOT MORE MONEY. YOU GO, WELL, HEY, DID YOU KNOW THIS? DID YOU KNOW THIS? YOU OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST OPENED A NEW PARK. AND DID YOU HAVE YOU LOOKED AT FUEL COSTS? I MEAN, ALL THE THINGS WE'RE TELLING YOU THAT MAY THAT NOT MAY WILL IMPACT OUR BOTTOM LINE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. SO THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE SMART BUDGET COMMITTEE THAT THAT GOES THROUGH THIS BEFORE IT GOES TO YES THEY YES. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH.

SO YEAH, I DON'T THINK THE INTENT WAS FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE. OBVIOUSLY WE'LL, WE'LL SHOW YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SEE. WE'RE NOT HIDING ANYTHING, BUT IT WASN'T TO SIT HERE AND GO THROUGH AND ASK YOU GUYS TO SAY THAT WAS OUR ASPIRATIONS. YES. NO DEFINITELY NOT. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE INSIGHT BECAUSE THAT THAT HELPS. YOU KNOW, IF IF WE DO GET ASKED, I THINK HAVING THAT HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR, I THINK THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IS, IS HELPFUL. YEAH, WE ARE SO, AND MATT KIND OF COVERED IT. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY NEW STUFF IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. AND THAT'S THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN A LOT. BUT SO THERE'S NO NEW STAFF. WE WILL STAY PRETTY CLOSE TO OUR BUDGET REQUESTS. WE'RE PROBABLY JUST ABOUT EVERY OTHER DIVISION. I MEAN ADMINISTRATION, WE'RE PEOPLE IN PENCILS FOR THE MOST PART. SO I MEAN THERE'LL BE SOME SALARY INCREASES, YOU KNOW, SO BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 3%. TRAINING DOLLARS, THOSE THINGS.

THAT'S WHAT WE SEE THERE. RECREATION IS JUST GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT OUR INSTRUCTORS FOR THE MOST PART ARE ASKING. THEY WON'T CHANGE TOO TOO MUCH. SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE YOU SEEING A LOT OF CHANGES THERE. I'M NOT SAYING ZERO, BUT YOU WON'T SEE A LOT MORE. THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE THE LION'S SHARE OF THE CHANGES JUST BECAUSE OF AN EXPANDING, GROWING SYSTEM. YOU GUYS GOT ALL THOSE NEW ROADS THAT TAKE CARE OF. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. 84,000,094. YEAH. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE AS FAR AS AGENDA ITEMS? I THINK THAT'S IT. OKAY, SO LAST AGENDA ITEM IS A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. MOTION. MOTION FROM KERRY. SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM VALERIE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR WITH THE VISUAL AND

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