Jan 20, 2026 Planning and Zoning Commission

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FOR SURE, BRO. YOU ALL READY? ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE JANUARY 20TH,

[1. Call to Order / Roll Call.]

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THE CONSENT AGENDA CAN BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION. IT MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA BY THE REQUEST OF A COMMISSIONER OR MEMBER OF STAFF. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR APPROVAL, OR TO REMOVE ANYTHING OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM? MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THREE THROUGH THREE F WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THREE EIGHT, THE THREE F FROM COMMISSIONER BLANCHARD. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARSON. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 0 FOR APPROVAL. CITIZEN COMMENTS. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ANY TOPIC. HOWEVER, THE COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. THOSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION MUST COMPLETE THE PUBLIC COMMENT FORM LOCATED ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE ON THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IF YOU ARE ATTENDING ATTENDING IN PERSON, PLEASE SUBMIT THIS FORM TO THE BOARD CHAIR OR STAFF MEMBER. WHEN CALLED UPON, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES IN MULTIPLE. IF MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS WISH TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC, THEY MAY YIELD THREE MINUTES TO ONE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTED TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. ALL INDIVIDUALS YIELDING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AT THE MEETING, AND THE APPOINTED INDIVIDUAL WILL BE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. DO WE HAVE ANY? NOPE. I SEE NO PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS

[4. Consider and act upon a request for a Preliminary Site Plan for Restaurant and Retail Buildings on Frontier Gateway, Block A, Lots 1-11, on 34.6± acres, located on the southwest corner of Dallas Parkway and Frontier Parkway. (DEVAPP-24-0110)]

PLAN FOR A RESTAURANT AND BUILDING ON FRONTIER GATEWAY BLOCK A LOT ONE DASH 11 ON 34.6 ACRES. LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF DALLAS PARKWAY AND FRONTIER PARKWAY. DEVELOPING A AB EXCUSE ME APP. DASH 240110. MR. CHAIR, THIS ITEM WAS TABLED PREVIOUSLY AND REQUEST THAT YOU MAKE MOTION OR THAT A MOTION BE MADE TO REMOVE FROM THE TABLE. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE. REMOVE THE REMOVE THE ITEM FROM FROM TABLE? MOTION. TO REMOVE THE ITEM FROM THE TABLE.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CARSON. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER FIORI. FIORI? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR

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THERE IS A PLAN WHICH SHOWS. OPEN SPACE AND WALKING TRAILS. THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON THE DECEMBER AT THE DECEMBER 16TH MEETING, HOWEVER, WITH FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REQUESTING EMPHASIS ON A VARIETY OF HEIGHT OR DENSITY VERSUS ALL SINGLE STORY USE, WHICH IS WHAT IS SHOWN ON THE PLAN CURRENTLY. THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION REGARDING ENHANCEMENT OF WALKABILITY, PARTICULARLY WITH AN EMPHASIS OF THE EAST WEST MAIN CORRIDOR THAT RUNS HALFWAY THROUGH THE SITE, AND ALSO LOCATION OF USES AND BUILDINGS WAS DISCUSSED. THAT'S JUST A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW, HOWEVER, AND YOU MAY HAVE HAVE HAD MORE INSIGHTS AND THOUGHTS SINCE THEN. THE APPLICANT DID MEET WITH STAFF AFTER THAT MEETING, AND WE DID TALK ABOUT THE DISCUSSION AND WHAT MIGHT BE DONE TO CHANGE THE PLAN OR ALTER THE PLAN. NO CHANGES WERE MADE, HOWEVER. SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT IS WHAT WAS REVIEWED AT THE DECEMBER 16TH MEETING, AND THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A MARKET ANALYSIS FOR REVIEW THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET. ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A SET OF SLIDES THAT THEY WOULD WISH TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING TO GO OVER THEIR THEIR THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT CHANGES HAD BEEN MADE SINCE ITS INCEPTION BASED ON THE CRITERIA JUST OF ZONING. THE ZONING DISTRICT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. I HAVE THE GATEWAY ANALYSIS HERE, BUT I CAN FORWARD FAST FORWARD THAT TO THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION IF YOU'RE READY TO DISCUSS THAT AT THIS TIME. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? NO QUESTIONS OKAY. OKAY. I'LL LET THE APPLICANT COME UP AND MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION. THANKS. GOOD DEAL. GOOD EVENING. DAVID BOND WITH SPIRES ENGINEERING, 501 GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY IN RICHARDSON HERE TONIGHT. AS YOU RECALL, MY COLLEAGUE DELANEY WAS PRESENT LAST TIME. WE WERE A BIT CAUGHT OFF GUARD WITH THE THE AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK THAT YOU GUYS HAD. AND SO WE WEREN'T WE REALLY WEREN'T READY. RIGHT.

WE'RE ON CONSENT AGENDA. STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A PRESENTATION. OUR DEVELOPER AND HIS TEAM WAS NOT PRESENT. AND SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO TONIGHT IS TO OFFER THAT PRESENTATION THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HAD LAST TIME. READ YOU GUYS, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER IN MUCH MORE DETAIL. A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK YOU GUYS HAD LAST TIME I WATCHED THE VIDEO. SO I'M AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT WENT THROUGH AND THEN HAVE DISCUSSION AND KIND OF GO FROM THERE. WITH NO FURTHER ADO, I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND INTRODUCE OUR DEVELOPER WITH URBAN HEIGHTS WHO WILL RUN THROUGH HIS PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS SAGAR. I AM MANAGING PARTNER FOR URBAN HEIGHTS WITH THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT. AND BEFORE WE GET INTO PRESENTATION, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A FEW SECONDS TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. PARDON ME. ADDRESS? YEAH. SO MY ADDRESS IS 45775 WHEEL DRIVE PLANO, TEXAS. AND BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE PRESENTATION, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND ALSO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING. AND AS A DEVELOPER UNDER THE URBAN HEIGHTS, WE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING SIMILAR PROJECTS IN NORTH TEXAS FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS, AND WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL SIMILAR GATEWAY PROJECTS. AND RECENTLY WE HAVE A FLAGSHIP PROJECT AT US 380 AND CHAMPION RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE PGA HEADQUARTERS THAT IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M GIVING THIS CONTEXT AND MY BACKGROUND TO CONVEY THE MESSAGE THAT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PRESENT HERE IS NOT JUST THEORETICAL, AND WE ARE TRYING TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION VERY INFORMED WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF DEVELOPING SIMILAR PROJECTS AND HAS THE VISION TO DEVELOP A GATEWAY. PROJECTS LIKE WHAT WE HAVE DONE, AND ALSO TO CONVEY THE MESSAGE THAT WE ARE NOT THE DEVELOPERS, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO PUT SOME

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SO WHERE PEOPLE AROUND THE COMMUNITIES CAN COME AND ENJOY THEIR TIME. AND WE HAVE PARKING LOTS WITH EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING FROM THE OTHER COMMUNITIES NEARBY. AND IN ADDITION, WE HAVE ALSO MADE A COMMITMENT FOR THE PUBLIC SPACE. THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS APPROXIMATELY 184,000FT■!S OF DEDICATED OPEN SPACE WITH UPSCALE LANDSCAPING AND ALONG WITH OUTDOOR SEATING AREAS IN MANY PLACES OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND ADA ACCESSIBLE THROUGHOUT.

THAT MEANS EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO WALK OUT THROUGH THE TRAILS AND REACH ANY PLACE, AND WE HAVE BIKE RACK INSTALLATIONS TO MAKE IT WALKING FRIENDLY AND BIKE FRIENDLY AS WELL. AND ALL THESE FEATURES ARE NOT ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT NOT JUST ANOTHER RETAIL, IT IS GOING TO MAKE IT AS A GATEWAY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. AND BEFORE I GET INTO THE DETAILS, SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THE WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR IN COLLABORATION WITH CITY THAT MADE US WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF FOR THE PAST 17 MONTHS AND MADE SEVEN SUBMISSIONS, AND WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT SOMETHING A DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO RAM THROUGH TO GET TO THE APPROVALS. BUT WE HAVE DELIBERATELY WORKED STEP BY STEP TO MAKE IT BETTER AND BETTER EVERY DAY. AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE IMPORTANT CHANGES WHAT CITY STAFF HAS WITH THEIR EXPERTISE AND GUIDANCE, HAS HELPED US TO INCORPORATE INTO THIS DESIGN WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU, AND IT HAS VERY ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS,

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AND WE HAVE VARIED ARCHITECTURE HEIGHTS OF THE BUILDINGS INSTEAD OF ONE SIZE BUILDINGS ALL OVER. AND WE HAVE CREATED SEVERAL COMMUNITY FRIENDLY SPACES WITH OUTDOOR SEATING AND BIKE RACKS. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT COME HERE JUST IN WITH INITIAL THOUGHT. WE HAVE WORKED WITH CITY STAFF VERY DELIBERATELY, COLLABORATIVELY, AND WE ARE REALLY THANKFUL FOR THE CITY STAFF WITH THEIR EXPERTISE AND GUIDANCE THEY HAVE PROVIDED TO MAKE THIS DESIGN BETTER. AND AT A HIGH LEVEL. THIS IS THE SITE HOW IT LOOKS WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT. IN THIS PICTURE YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT WALK PATHS, WALKING TRAILS AND OPEN SPACES, SITTING AREAS AND THE DETENTION POND. IN FACT, THE DETENTION POND, WHICH IS AN AMENITY FEATURE ONE ONE SUBMISSION BEFORE THIS WAS HOW IT IS. AND IN THE LATEST SUBMISSION, WHAT WE MADE, CITY STAFF ADVISED US TO MAKE IT NOT ONLY EAST AND WEST, BUT NORTH AND SOUTH. ALSO IN OUR LATEST SUBMISSION, THE THE WATER FEATURE IS GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE FOR ENTIRE COMMUNITY, EVEN GOING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH AS WELL. AND WE HAVE LISTED SOME OF THE HIGH END MATERIAL THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO USE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS GOING TO PROVIDE THAT UPSCALE LOOK FOR THE STAIR GATEWAY DEVELOPMENT. AND GENERALLY, WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT ANY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMES INTO MIND IS, HEY, IS IT GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS LIKE GAS STATIONS, TIRE SHOPS, DISCOUNT STORES, WHICH DOESN'T CREATE THAT UPSCALE. BUT I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT EVERY PROJECT WE HAVE BUILT IN NORTH TEXAS SO FAR, I AM AGAINST MAKING I AM AGAINST HAVING ANY KIND OF BUSINESSES IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WOULD REDUCE THE QUALITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE PROJECT, AND I WANT TO ASSURE THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO EXCLUDE ANY GAS STATIONS, CONVENIENCE STORES, ANY CHECK CASHING OR PAYDAY LOANS, NO DISCOUNT STORES, NO ADULT BUSINESSES, NO SMOKE VAPE SHOPS, NO AUTO REPAIR SHOPS, NO CAR WASH, NO CAR DEALERSHIP. ANY OF THIS WHICH IS GOING TO BRING DOWN THE QUALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS NOT SUITABLE FOR GATEWAY, WILL NOT BE ALLOWED HERE. AND WHAT IT IS GOING TO HAVE, IT WOULD BE HAVING A FULL SERVICE DOWN RESTAURANTS WITH THAT OUTDOOR DINING FACILITIES, BOUTIQUE RETAIL AND SPECIALTY SHOPS AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. THAT INCLUDES MEDICAL, DENTAL, FINANCIAL AND LEGAL SERVICES AND HIGH END HEALTH AND WELLNESS FACILITIES, FITNESS, SPA, ETC. AND PERSONAL SERVICES, SALOONS AND PET GROOMING AND PREMIUM ANCHOR AND SPECIALTY FOOD STORES, AND THEN DRUGSTORES AND PHARMACIES. AND WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE OTHER COMMUNITY SERVING RETAILS THAT RESIDENTS ARE CURRENTLY DRIVING, EITHER TOWARDS THE FRISCO OR TOWARDS MCKINNEY, TO GO AND GET THOSE THINGS. AND WITH THE HELP OF OUR AGENTS, WE ARE TARGETING TO HAVE NATIONAL AND REGIONAL BRANDS WITH REPUTATION FOR QUALITY AND TO BE A GATEWAY DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ELEVATE THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE GATEWAY. AND WE ALL KNOW THE SITE CONTEXT AND WE UNDERSTAND WHY THIS DEVELOPMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU AS WELL AS US, BECAUSE IT IS SITTING AT THE RIGHT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF FRONTIER AND AND DALLAS PARKWAY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE FOR OUR CORRIDOR. AND IT IS EXPECTED TO HAVE 100,000 PLUS DAILY VEHICLES. AND IT IS LESS THAN TWO MILES FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL AND CHILDREN'S HEALTH STADIUM. AND IT IS SURROUNDED BY, AS YOU CAN SEE, VERY HIGH END VALUE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE ALL LOOKING FOR A UPSCALE RETAIL WHERE THEY CAN GO AND DINE AND SHOP NEARBY. AND WE UNDERSTAND THIS, THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION CARRIES A SPECIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE TRYING TO COMMIT TO THE STANDARDS THAT EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS OF ANY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT AND RESTRICTING THE BUSINESSES, WHICH IS GOING TO BRING DOWN THE QUALITY OF THAT PLACE. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH ALL THE ZONING GUIDELINES ORDINANCE, AND WE HAVE EXCEEDED THE REQUIREMENTS. AND WHEN I SAY GATEWAY QUALITY DESIGN AND

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AND WE HAVE SHADED TREES AND LANDSCAPE ALL OVER THE WALKWAYS, AND WE HAVE A SAFE CROSS CROSSWALKS AND ACCESSIBLE DESIGN FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND THE AMENITIES. WE HAVE EXTENSIVE NATIVE TREE CANOPY AND WE HAVE SEASONAL COLORS TO MAKE IT LOOK BEAUTIFUL IN ALL SEASONS. AND WE HAVE WATER FEATURE AS A VISUAL AMENITY. AS I SAID, THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE PLACES YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE SITTING AND ENJOYING THE TIME AND PARKING LOTS. WE HAVE LANDSCAPING EXCEEDING IN THE CODING CODE REQUIREMENTS AND IN ADDITION TO THE QUALITY AND FEATURES WHAT WE ARE INCORPORATING, WE ALSO SEE A LOT OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS.

WE EXPECT APPROXIMATELY 550 TO 650 JOBS BEING CREATED. PROSPER RESIDENTS AND HAVE A DINING AND SHOPPING EXPERIENCE WITHOUT LEAVING THE TOWN, AND REVENUE SUPPORTING THE CITY SERVICES.

AND THIS IS GOING TO CREATE A FOUNDATION FOR MUCH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, NOT ONLY JUST THIS GATEWAY LOCATION AND ALSO TO THE SOUTH OF THIS GATEWAY. AND ANY GATEWAY EVOLUTIONS. I MEAN, ALL OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT. ON AVERAGE, IT TAKES ABOUT 15 TO 20 YEARS TO SEE WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN ANY OF THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS JUST TO HIGHLIGHT, LET IT BE THE INTERSECTION OF LEGACY LEGACY WEST AND DANTE IN THE PLANO, OR THE INTERSECTION OF 121 AND D.A, WHICH IS A GRANITE PARK LOCATION, OR AT THE WARREN PARKWAY, WHICH IS A STAR. EVERYTHING STARTED AS RETAIL CENTERS LOCATION, AND IT TOOK AN AVERAGE OF 15 TO 20 YEARS BEFORE WE STARTED SEEING WHAT WE ARE SEEING TODAY. EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE HIGH END CLASS, A OFFICE TOWER AT LEGACY AND D.A. THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY A SMALL RETAIL FURNITURE SHOWROOM WHICH WAS BEING REPLACED, DEMOLISHED AND CLASSY. BUILDING OF TOWER CAME AFTER 1520 YEARS OF IT. AND IF YOU TAKE THE NEXT EXAMPLE OF 121 AND D.A. GRANITE PARK FAILED TWICE BECAUSE IT DID NOT HAD THE RETAIL REQUIRED, AND THEN THEY TOOK A PASS AND BUILT RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS.

AND AFTER THAT, NOW GRANITE PARK IS A SUCCESS. AND WHATEVER IS THE STAR STADIUM AND OFFICES WE ARE SEEING TODAY, BEFORE WE HAVE SEEN IT 15, 20 YEARS BEFORE, WE HAVE THE RETAIL BUILT THERE AND WHICH IS GIVEN THE GROUND FOR TRAFFIC AND THE RESIDENTS COMING THERE. AND TODAY WE ARE SEEING SO ENTIRE NORTH TEXAS. WE HAVE SEEN THIS PATTERN WHERE EVERYTHING STARTS WITH RETAIL FOUNDATION, SLOWLY TRANSFORM TO SOME MIXED USE OFFICES AND FINALLY CREATES A VERSION VISION FOR THE CITY TO START BUILDING CLASS A HIGH END TOWERS, WHICH IS GOING TO TRANSFORM THAT LOCATION IN THE FUTURE. AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO THE SAME THING HERE ALSO, AND START WITH THE RETAIL FOUNDATION. AND WE HAVE DONE AN EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS. IT IS NOT THAT RIGHT. SO WE HAVE SIMPLY THOUGHT, OKAY, LET'S GO AND DO RETAIL. AND WE HAVE DONE COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS IN ALL THE THREE AREAS. THAT INCLUDES EXTENSIVE MARKET RESEARCH OF THE ENTIRE DFW OFFICE MARKET, RETAIL MARKET, AND INCLUDING THE COLLIN COUNTY AND COMPETITIVE SITE SIZES, SITE ASSESSMENTS. AND WE HAVE ENGAGED INDEPENDENT BROKERS, NOT JUST JUST JLL AND OTHER COMPANIES, TO PROVIDE ALL THE INFORMATION. AND WE ALSO SAW WHAT IS THE QUALITY AND FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS THAT MEANS, WHAT KIND OF BUILDINGS, WHAT KIND OF ARCHITECTURE, WHAT KIND OF MATERIALS WOULD MAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT LOOK MUCH BETTER? AND WHAT ARE THE ECONOMIC VIABILITIES OF DIFFERENT USAGES TODAY AND WHAT ARE THE RISK ASSESSMENT? SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO FOR DIFFERENT USAGES LIKE CLASS A OFFICES, WHAT IS THE CHANCE OF THE VACANCY BLIGHT AND FINANCIAL FAILURES THAT MIGHT HAPPEN? AND WHAT IS THE TIMELINE DELIVERY FOR THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT WHICH IS GOING TO HELP THE CURRENT COMMUNITY? YOU HAVE SEEN SO MANY HIGH END RESIDENTIAL COMPLEXES, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AROUND FOR WHO ARE CURRENTLY DRIVING FAR AWAY FOR A GOOD RETAIL AND SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS. AND WE ALSO DID EXTENSIVE TENANT AND MARKET VALIDATION. WE HAVE CONDUCTED SURVEY THROUGH OUR BROKER AGENTS, CORPORATE OFFICE TENANT SURVEY, AND WE DISCUSSED WITH

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IT RAISES A LITTLE BIT FOR MYSELF. HEY EVERYONE, I'M SCOTT ROGERS, 63, 15 WOODLAND DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME TO MEET WITH US. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF AND MY FIRM. I'M A PARTNER WITH WEST REALTY, WHICH IS A 20 PLUS PERSON BROKERAGE FIRM. HERE IN DFW. WE HAVE ABOUT 300 PROJECTS ALL ACROSS THE METROPLEX FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ASSET CLASSES. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER HERE FOR THE LAST 17 MONTHS, AS HE MENTIONED, TO CAST THE WIDEST NET POSSIBLE AND BRING HIM BACK THE MARKET FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE SEEN AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING REALLY HARD FROM FROM EVERY DIFFERENT ASSET CLASS AS POSSIBLE. AND AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'VE WE'VE SEEN A CONSISTENT THEME THAT THERE IS THERE IS STRONG RETAIL INTEREST HERE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH WITH A DIFFICULT OFFICE MARKET.

WE HAVE 24 TO 25% VACANCY ACROSS ALL DFW. YOU KNOW, LEGACY ITSELF IS ABOUT 24% VACANT TODAY. YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS MEANS FOR OUR SIDE IS IT MAKES OFFICE DEVELOPMENT REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT. AND, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM FROM OFFICE USERS TODAY IS THEY WANT A FORM OF A CORPORATE CLUSTER, RIGHT? THEY ALL WANT TO BE AROUND EACH OTHER. AND UNTIL WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT, WE FIND IT DIFFICULT TO GET OFFICE. BUT WHAT WE DO WE HAVE SEEN IS RETAIL IS THE NUMBER ONE DIFFERENTIATOR TO HELP GET OFFICE, BECAUSE THEY WANT WALKABILITY FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO GO GET STUFF TO EAT. THEY WANT WALKABILITY TO TO SERVICES.

THEY WANT CONVENIENCE AND LEADING WITH RETAIL. WE FOUND VERY SUCCESSFUL FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS AROUND AROUND DFW. AS SORGER SAID SPECIFICALLY STAR IN LEGACY WEST. RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID ANY DEVELOPMENT, ANY STAGNANT DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE'S ANY VACANT BUILDINGS FOR ANY YEARS AND, AND FOCUS ON WHAT IS MARKETABLE TODAY. AND FROM OUR 17 MONTHS OF DOING THIS, WE FOUND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S MARKETABLE TODAY IS A REALLY VIBRANT, REALLY GOOD LOOKING RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON. JUST A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, DATA POINTS ON, ON ON WHERE OFFICE EXCEEDS AND AND WHY. YOU KNOW, THE MARKET HAS KIND OF GIVEN US FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET IS YOU KNOW, WE'VE REALLY SEEN IT BEING THESE THESE THESE CITY CENTERS. AND WE AND WE SEE WE SEE DFW HAVE MULTIPLE CITY CENTERS AS YOU KIND OF MOVE NORTH WITH KIND OF THE CORE BEING THE PRESTON CENTER UPTOWN CORRIDOR AND THEN MOVING UP TO GALLERIA AND THEN MOVING UP TO LEGACY WEST AND MOVING UP TO THE STAR. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF EXISTING STRONG OFFICE NODES TODAY, BUT EVEN THOSE NODES HAVE HAVE EXPERIENCED A PRETTY CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF VACANCY. WITH A POST-COVID OFFICE WORLD. YOU KNOW, WE WE HAVE ALL THE COSTAR DATA AND, YOU KNOW, PRESTON CENTER, WHICH IS A CLASS A OFFICE MARKET IS 9% VACANCY AND LEGACY. WEST PLANO IS ABOUT 26, WHICH IS WHICH. WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS OFFICE USERS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO GO TO THE EXISTING STUFF BECAUSE THERE'S A THERE'S A THERE'S AN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO GO THERE RATHER THAN BUILDING NET NEW, WHICH IS, WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE, VERY EXPENSIVE. SO, YOU KNOW, OUR FACTORS FOR SUCCESS HERE AND WHAT WE THINK WILL MAKE THIS, THIS PROPERTY SUCCESSFUL IS, YOU KNOW, REALLY GETTING THIS PROJECT OFF THE GROUND. WE FOUND THAT, YOU KNOW, GETTING DIRT MOVING IS REALLY THE BIGGEST PUSH TO ACTUALLY GET REALLY QUALITY RETAIL, YOU KNOW. AND THAT WOULD BE OUR THAT WOULD BE OUR FOCUS HERE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT AN 18 MONTH FEEDBACK SCALE OF OF MARKETING THIS PROPERTY PRETTY EXTENSIVELY. AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING THAT WE KEEP BUMPING INTO IS THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF EXISTING OFFICE INFRASTRUCTURE. RIGHT. AND AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ALL THESE FORTUNE FIVE HUNDREDS WANT PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ABOUT 20 PROPERTIES KIND OF IN AROUND THE PGA, WHICH IS KIND OF THE NEXT NODE NORTH OF THE STAR WHERE OFFICE IS PLANNED. AND IT'S MOST OF IT'S KIND OF SITTING STAGNANT. THE LAND IS SITTING STAGNANT, MOSTLY BECAUSE EVERYONE'S GOING TO GO TO LEGACY WEST PRIOR TO JUMPING UP TO A NEW NODE. SO WE THINK IT'LL GET THERE. IT'LL JUST TAKE SOME TIME. AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HOPING TO LEAD WITH RETAIL AND REALLY, REALLY MAKING A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE. OKAY. YOU KNOW, CONTRARY

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AND OUR COMMITMENTS TO PROSPER ARE FOLLOWING THE STRICT ARCHITECTURE GUIDELINES WITH THE MATERIALS, WHAT WE HAVE LISTED, AND STRICTLY PROHIBITING THE USE OF GAS STATIONS AND DISCOUNT RETAILS ADULT ORIENTED BUSINESSES, WHICHEVER IS GOING TO BRING DOWN THE QUALITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS, WHICH EXCEED CODE MINIMUMS WITH NATIVE TREES AND PUBLIC SPACES AND SIGNAGE STANDARDS, ELEGANT MONUMENT SIGN AND COORDINATED DESIGN AMONG ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AND SITE DESIGN, WHICH IS COMPLETELY WALKABLE, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY WITH OUTDOOR SEATING AND WATER FEATURES, AND CONTINUOUS ONGOING MAINTENANCE. A CONTINUOUS PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WITH STANDARDS THAT KEEP THE QUALITY OF THIS GATEWAY FOR DECADES TO COME, AND IN THE CLOSING, WHAT I WANTED TO COMMUNICATE IS WHATEVER WE HAVE PRESENTED HERE TODAY, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING CAME HAPPENED IN ONE DAY, ONE WEEK, ONE MONTH. THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH THE CITY STAFF OVER A 17 MONTHS AND SEVEN SUBMISSIONS AND ALL THE INPUT. WHAT CITY HAS STAFF HAS GIVEN NOT DID NOT JUST CHANGE THE DESIGN, IT CHANGED THIS PROJECT BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE CITY AND WE ARE HAPPY TO DEVELOP IT. AND THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED. ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. WE APPRECIATE IT A LOT. WE WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GO DOWN OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO JUMP INTO IT? I'LL ASK YOU A WOW, VERY SORRY NOT YELLING AT YOU. I'LL ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED. YOU. YOU REFERENCED GATEWAY CALIBER QUITE A BIT. SOME. AND I THINK YOU GAVE US SOME GOOD EXPLANATIONS OF THAT, OR AT LEAST YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THAT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

I WOULD SAY APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION. AND THE PATIENCE WITH THE TOWN. WE'RE VERY PARTICULAR AND PROSPER ABOUT THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF TOLLWAY FRONTAGE THAT WE HAVE. AND I DO THINK IT SAYS SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN PATIENT AND, AND WORKED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SO DON'T DON'T LET THAT GO UNNOTICED REGARDLESS OF WHERE ALL THIS GOES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU MENTIONED QUALITY RETAIL QUITE A BIT. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS OF RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC STORE OR ANY OF THAT,

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SO I GUESS DEFINE QUALITY RETAIL AND THEN KIND OF TALK WHAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE, ARE YOU JUST HOPING THAT THE DEVELOPMENTS TO THE SOUTH OR EAST WEST, WHATEVER, ARE GOING TO BRING SOME OFFICE AS AS A CATALYST BEHIND WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE? KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT PHASING? ABSOLUTELY, SIR. AND REGARDING THE QUALITY RETAIL, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE SCOTT TO COME AND EXPLAIN. SOME NAMES CANNOT BE SHARED WITH CONFIDENTIAL, BUT AT A HIGH LEVEL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT KIND OF RETAIL AND THE TENANTS WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH. THANK YOU. YEAH. HEY GUYS.

YOU KNOW, IN RETAIL WE HAVE CLASS A, CLASS B, CLASS C, RIGHT. SAME AS OFFICE. RIGHT.

AND WHAT WE ARE GOING OVER WHAT WE ARE GOING AFTER HERE IS A IS A CLASS A DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT.

SO LET'S LET'S TALK ABOUT LIKE FITNESS FOR EXAMPLE. RIGHT. CLASS C WOULD HAVE A PLANET FITNESS. YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT LIKE A RETRO FITNESS LIKE A $9.99 A MONTH GYM. THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A LEVEL ABOVE THAT MIGHT BE A LA FITNESS, THEN A LEVEL ABOVE THAT. YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, GROUP THAT WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH CALLED CLUB STUDIO, WHICH IS A VERY HIGH END PLUS $100 A MONTH FITNESS GROUP. SAME APPLIES TO RESTAURANTS, RIGHT? YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, TACO BELL AS A CLASS C, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU HAVE A HIGH END, YOU KNOW, MUCHACHA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS A CLASS A, RIGHT. SO IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED THE THE CLASS A TYPE TENANTS. AND TO HIS CREDIT, HE WAS AND HE PUT THIS IN THE PRESENTATION BUT HAS NOT EVEN ENTERTAINED. I CANNOT TELL YOU THE AMOUNT OF OFFERS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE USES THAT THAT WE HAVE SAID THAT WE WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT ENTERTAIN. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AN ECONOMICALLY, YOU KNOW, GOOD DEAL. BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN THE WAY THAT HE'S DEVELOPED. AND I'VE WORKED ON A LOT OF PROJECTS WITH HIM, AND I REALLY DO RESPECT THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, AS I HOPE THAT THAT'S SOMEWHAT HELPFUL. BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE LEASE WATERS CREEK VILLAGE IN ALLEN, RIGHT? THAT LEADS A CLASS A DEVELOPMENT, LEADS TO CLASS A TENANTS. RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES CAPITAL, IT TAKES OPEN SPACE, IT TAKES WALKABILITY TO GET THOSE CLASS A TENANTS. AND THAT'S EXCLUSIVE WHAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON. AND WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF OF NICE RESTAURANTS AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE, YOU KNOW, NORMAL, YOU KNOW, FAST FOOD GUYS, WHICH WE'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN OPPOSED WITH. AND WE THINK THAT WE THINK OF THAT AS ALMOST AN ADDITIONAL ANCHOR. RIGHT. SO THAT'S BEEN A BIG FOCUS AND BIG PUSH OF OURS IS TO GO GET THE CLASS A RESTAURANTS AS WELL.

THANKS. AND JUST TO REITERATE ANOTHER POINT, SCOTT MENTIONED MANY OF THE USES I MENTIONED AS THIS WILL BE EXCLUDED FROM OUR PROJECT. THERE ARE MANY OF THOSE USERS ARE SENDING A BLANK CHECK. HEY, I WANT THIS SITE, GIVE IT TO ME. SO WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE REVENUE AND PROFIT WE CAN MAKE OUT OF THAT. WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ABOUT WHAT WE WANTED TO BUILD, WHAT KIND OF TENANTS AND USERS WE WANTED TO BRING IN. THAT'S THE REASON, EVEN THOUGH CITY STAFF DID NOT ASK US EXPLICITLY, I'M READY TO PUT IT ON PAPER SAYING THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE THIS BUSINESS IN THIS PLACE TO CREATE THAT KIND OF A QUALITY AND COMING TO THIS OFFICE, HOW IT IS GOING TO BE RETAIL WOULD LEAD TO THE OFFICE. IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS. YEAH. SO IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO OUR PLAN IS TO GO WITH THE PHASE ONE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE TO THE NORTH OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS TOWARDS THE FRONTIER, WHICH IS MOSTLY RETAIL. THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ALMOST 15 PLUS ACRES TO THE SOUTH OF IT, WHICH IS SEPARATING THE BIG, BIG THOROUGHFARE BETWEEN SHAWNEE TRAIL AND D.A. AND BY CREATING A QUALITY RETAIL IN THE PHASE ONE. SO WE ARE HOPING TO ATTRACT THE OFFICE USERS INTO THAT SPACE. AND EVEN IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO ATTRACT WITHIN THAT SHORT TIME, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, THIS IS GOING TO STIMULATE AND BECOME A CATALYST FOR THE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT WHICH THE CITY HAS ALREADY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE OFF UNLESS UNTIL WE CREATE THAT ENVIRONMENT AND CATALYZE THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S THE APPROACH WE ARE TAKING. SO I DON'T THINK ANYTHING YOU'VE PRESENTED HAS REALLY SHOWN PHASING. WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED IS, IS INTRIGUING. IS THAT THE GOAL CALL IT THE THOROUGHFARE I THINK IS THE

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LET ME JUST REPEAT THAT BACK. SO YOU YOU WOULD SEE THE EVOLUTION OCCURRING. FIRST OF ALL BUILD US ALL OUT AS RETAIL AND THEN POTENTIALLY LATER IN THE FUTURE, KNOCK SOME OF THE RETAIL DOWN AND BUILD A HIGHER A TALLER BUILDING OR FOR OTHER KINDS OF USES, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU'RE TAKING OFF THE RETAIL. THAT'S KIND OF HELPED BRING IN THAT KIND OF OTHER FURTHER USE, IT SEEMS LIKE. SO I'M NOT I'M NOT I'M NOT FOLLOWING THAT CONCEPT OF THE GATEWAY EVOLUTION. AND I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR AND HOPING TO SEE IN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A KEY PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT'S ON THE TOLLWAY. ALL THE TOLLWAY IS GOING TO BE KEY TO US. NOW, THIS IS AN ENTRANCE TO OUR PROPERTY AND AND OR TO OUR GATEWAY TO OUR CITY. AND SO I THINK WE WERE HOPING TO SEE THAT EVOLUTION HAPPEN HERE, YOU KNOW, AND SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WOULD START WITH RETAIL, THAT YOU WOULD START WITH A VERY ATTRACTIVE RETAIL, THE KIND OF CLASS-A THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S GOOD. I THINK I'M TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. THAT'S THE KIND OF RETAIL WE WANT.

ALTHOUGH I'M I'M NOT REAL CONVINCED THAT WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING RIGHT ON THE VERY FIRST CORNER, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT KIND OF QUALITY RETAIL THAT I'M YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, I KNOW THAT'S STILL NOT FINAL, BUT THAT THE, THE DRUGSTORE PHARMACY KIND OF THING DOESN'T REALLY HIT ME AS CLASS A BUT BUT NONETHELESS, THAT'S I ARE I WAS JUST LOOKING TO SEE A PLAN TO SEE THAT THIS THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN, PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN COULD SHOW, REFLECT THAT KIND OF EVOLUTION ON THIS PROPERTY.

YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO SHOW THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT ALL AS RETAIL AND PERHAPS LATER, SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, WE MIGHT CAN SEE OTHER GROWTH, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO TAKE TEARING DOWN BUILDINGS TO DO THAT. AND SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, AS I MENTIONED, IS BUILD THE RETAIL TO THE NORTH OF THAT ROAD, SEPARATING CONNECTING BETWEEN D AND T AND SHAWNEE TRAIL, AND WHICH IS A, WHICH IS GOING TO TAKE ABOUT THREE YEARS TO COMPLETE AND GET OCCUPIED.

AND IF WE ARE LUCKY, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTRACT AN OFFICE USER. SO THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO

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WHAT DO YOU ENVISION FOR THAT. SO WE ARE OPEN TO WORK WITH CITY TO CREATE A VERY UNIQUE SCULPTURE THAT PROSPERITY. WE WANT THE PEOPLE TO REMEMBER IT AS THE ENTRY AND READY TO BUILD THAT ONE FOR YOU. GOT IT. AND THEN STEPPING BEHIND THAT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, TO COMMISSIONER BLANCHETT'S CONCERN ABOUT WHAT IS KIND OF DIRECTLY ON THAT CORNER, ARE YOU ALL DETERMINED THAT THAT WILL BE SOME SORT OF PHARMACY TYPE DRUGSTORE LIKE CVS, WALGREENS, ONE OF THOSE TYPE OF WE HAVE NOT COMMITTED TO ANY OF THE TENANT YET. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH NATIONAL TENANTS AND WITH THE VERY HIGH END QUALITY OPTIONS WE HAVE. AND THIS IS LIKE A CHICKEN AND EGG. THE QUALITY TENANTS DON'T WANT TO TALK TO US UNTIL WE HAVE APPROVAL. AND SO BECAUSE THEY WANT SOME CERTAINTY BY WHEN WE CAN DELIVER, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SIT AND SAY THAT, HEY, THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 17 MONTHS AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE THEM SAY YES, BUT WE ARE WORKING OUR BEST TO TALK TO THE NATIONAL TENANTS AND HIGH QUALITY TENANTS. YEAH, I CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK AT THE SAME TIME, SOME OF THE. MYSTERY OF IT OR THINGS THAT AREN'T KNOWN CAN MAKE US UNEASY AT TIMES AS, AS WELL. OKAY. AND I THINK THIS MIGHT BE MY LAST ONE. I WANT TO DRILL DOWN ON, ON COMMISSIONER BLANCHETT'S LINE OF QUESTIONING AND TRY AND REALLY MAKE THIS CLEAR. SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT BASICALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS A ROAD THAT CROSSES THROUGH THAT. YOUR INTENTION AT THE OUTSET IS TO BUILD THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT ROAD. YES. AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE, IT IS A

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IT'S JUST A DRIVE CUTTING THROUGH THERE. BUT WE'RE THE INTENT IS TO MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL AND ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS. ANYWAYS, I THOUGHT THAT WAS REAL SORRY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK I THINK MY LAST QUESTION, I'M ONLY GOING TO ASK THIS BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE SLIDE AND IT IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION ON THE THE PROPERTY TAX CALCULATION. THAT SEEMED A LITTLE LIGHT ON THE PROPERTY TAXES, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. IT ULTIMATELY WHAT WHAT YOU ENVISION THIS IS SOMEWHERE IN THE $75 MILLION RANGE AS FAR AS ASSESSED VALUE.

YES. OKAY. YEAH. SO LOOK I AS I KIND OF I ALSO MENTIONED MY CONSERVATIVE SIDE. THIS IS THE MONEY WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO THE GROUND. SO EVEN IF THE ASSESSMENT IS GOING TO BE THE MONEY, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT IN THE GROUND, THAT'S THE VALUE I MEANT THE THE TAX BILL ON $75 MILLION OF VALUE. BUT THAT'S FAR LESS IMPORTANT AT THE TIME BEING, LIKE I SAID AT THE OUTSET, I'M REALLY NOT IN THEORY OPPOSED TO THIS USE. I DON'T LIKE DENSITY FOR THE SAKE OF DENSITY. YOU KNOW, I THINK TWO STORY RETAIL, THINGS LIKE THAT JUST DON'T REALLY WORK. MY CONCERN WITH IT IS THAT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THERE ARE NO ACTUAL. YOU KNOW, TRIGGERS OR REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ENFORCEABLE. AND I THINK EVEN WHEN YOU WERE ON THAT LAST SIDE A MINUTE AGO, LAST SLIDE A MINUTE AGO THAT HAD THE KIND OF LIST OF, OF THINGS THAT WERE BEING USED TO MAKE THIS A TRUE GATEWAY DEVELOPMENT. I THINK YOU HAD USED THE TERM ENFORCEABLE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS WERE COMMITTING TO, AND IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO. AND IF IT IT WOULD BE REALLY TOUGH FOR ME TO SUPPORT IT WITHOUT SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY DOES THAT, SOMETHING THAT GUARANTEES THAT WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO US, THIS QUALITY IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY GET CONCEPTUALLY. I REALLY DON'T MIND IT AS LONG AS THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GETTING. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND AGAIN, I TAKE THE GUIDANCE OF CITY STAFF AND EVERY, EVERY, EVERY PLOT THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT, EVERY BUILDING WILL AGAIN COME FOR REVIEW FOR THE QUALITY AND THE STANDARDS. SO HAS A CITY STAFF, I BELIEVE HAS AN OPTION TO POINT US BACK TO THE QUALITY, WHAT WE ARE COMMITTING AND IF IT IS GOING TO HELP US TO PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING, WE ARE OPEN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY FROM FROM MY STANDPOINT, BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE THE LAST MAN, A DEATH IN THE FAMILY. SO I WASN'T HERE FOR THE LAST MEETING. BUT THANK YOU. BUT I DID SEE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAD ALL ASKED FOR SOME CHANGES TO BE TO BE BROUGHT ABOUT SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR. WHEN I LOOK AT IT, I LOOK TO SEE IF IT CONFORMS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. AND HOW DOES IT AFFECT YOUR NEIGHBORS BELOW, ABOVE, TO THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT OF YOU TO MEET THE STANDARDS? SO FOR ME, THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT AS WELL WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, TO THIS PROJECT. SO BUT THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT AND WE'LL JUST GO INTO QUICK DISCUSSION. THANK YOU SIR. THANKS EVERYONE. THANKS FOR THE TIME REPRESENTING THIS. THANK YOU. SO SO I GUESS DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO SAY BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION HERE. BECAUSE IF NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. GO FOR IT. SO MY QUESTION FOR STAFF IS WHAT PROCESS TO TO TO HAVE AN ENFORCEABLE AGREEMENT TO THE, TO THE COMMITMENTS THEY'VE MADE WITH REGARD TO QUALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THROUGH A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, I KNOW THAT, BUT SO WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN

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FRANKLY, I THINK THE TERM GATEWAY IS A VERY INTERESTING ONE. AND IN FACT, IN OUR DESIGN STANDARD, WE HAVE ADOPTED TOLLWAY DESIGN GUIDELINES. AND IT REFERENCES THIS AS LIKE THE FRONTIER GATEWAY. AND IT ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT MINIMUM OF TWO STOREY IN HEIGHT AND OTHER DENSITY REQUIREMENTS. I DO APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER FURY, LIKE YOU DON'T NEED 20 STORY TOWERS ALL DOWN THE WHOLE TOWN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT THE FACT THAT THIS HAS ZERO MIXED USE AS PROPOSED, THERE'S NO PHASING TO SHOW ANY FUTURE FUTURE PHASING.

THIS FEELS LIKE A AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO A DEBATE WITH MR. ROGERS. I THINK FROM A RETAIL PERSPECTIVE, YOU CAN FAR OUTPACE ME ON THAT. HOWEVER, I'LL SAY THIS FEELS SOMETHING LIKE THE CENTER OF PRESTON RIDGE, SOMETHING THAT GOES OFF OF PRESTON, NOT OFF OF THE TOLLWAY, IN MY OPINION. AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT HAS THAT QUALITATIVE, THAT QUALITATIVE LOOK AND FEEL THAT PROSPER IS LOOKING FOR. IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU BROUGHT UP WATERS CREEK, AND I DON'T MEAN TO WEAPONIZE THAT AGAINST YOU, BUT I WILL SAY THAT'S PROBABLY, TO ME, ONE OF THE BEST DEVELOPMENTS IN COLLIN COUNTY. AND I THINK VERY WELL DONE. AND IT ALSO AFFORDED THE TOWN THAT WOULD BE A CITY. AND, ALAN, A LOT OF TIME AND PATIENCE TO GET THAT TO WHERE IT IS TODAY. UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK FOR A LOT OF DEVELOPERS, WHEN THEY COME TO PROSPER, WE HAVE PATIENCE, WE HAVE TIME. IT'S WAY MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET IT RIGHT THAN IT IS TO GET IT DONE. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S MAYBE NOT ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF JUST CRAMMING RETAIL OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, MULTIFAMILY, WHATEVER THE WHATEVER FOLKS ARE TRYING TO DO, WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE NORTH STAR FOR US. AND I THINK I THINK THAT'S JUST A FEW OF THE KEY POINTS THAT I WOULD SAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. COMMISSIONER, COMMENT ON PUTTING A LOT OF EFFORT INTO OUR PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO DO NOW. AND I THINK YOU'VE YOU'VE BEEN A GOOD PARTNER TO US. SO I DON'T WANT TO JUST NECESSARILY DENY IT AND GO BACK TO THE TABLE, GO BACK TO THE STARTING POINT. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK HERE, BUT I THINK WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THE QUALITY LEVEL UP THE DENSITY UP A LITTLE BIT, OR AT LEAST PROPOSE SOME FUTURE PHASES ON THE PROPERTY AND NOT RELY ON OUR NEIGHBORS. AND I THINK WE GOT TO FOLLOW AT LEAST SOMEWHAT IN LINE WITH THE TOLLWAY GUIDELINES THAT EXIST TODAY. AND THE FUTURE ONES TO COME ARE GOING TO HELP DEFINE THAT EVEN MORE. BUT THERE ARE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT EXIST, AND IT ACTUALLY REFERENCES THE WEST SIDE OF THE TOLLWAY FROM FRONTIER TO PROSPER TRAIL, WHICH THIS THIS SITS IN AND IT'S NOT MEETING IT. SO I WAS JUST LOOKING THROUGH MY NOTES, I APOLOGIZE. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT WALKABILITY. I LOVE THAT CONCEPT. WHEN THERE'S SOME SORT OF MIXED USE COMPONENT, AN OFFICE USER, TO GO TO A RESTAURANT OR A RETAIL SPACE OR A RESIDENT, WHETHER IT'S TOWNHOMES, MULTIFAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY TO GET THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO REAL CONNECTIVITY FROM THE CENTER OF THIS OUT TO SHAWNEE TRAIL, WHERE THERE'S THERE'S HOUSING TO THE WEST, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST NOT SHOWN. I GET IT, IT'S A PRELIMINARY PLAN, BUT THAT'S A PRETTY KEY TENANT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SELL CONNECTIVITY TO SHOW SOME OF THOSE THINGS. I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION ON SOME OF THOSE EXAMPLES WERE VERY GOOD AND I THINK APPLICABLE. I THINK WHAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IS QUALITY. I GUESS YOU'D CALL IT RETAIL STORES IN THOSE SCENARIOS OF KIND OF WHAT KIND OF STORES DO YOU ENVISION OR PROBABLY NOT USING THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE EXAMPLES WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC USER, SO WHETHER IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER, THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR COMMENT IS, BUT JUST KIND OF WHAT THE LEVEL OF QUALITY YOU'RE REFERRING TO. I THINK THAT'S IT. THAT WAS MY COMMENT. SO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK SO FAR. ALL RIGHT. EVERYONE ELSE GOOD. THANK YOU.

SO I GUESS AT THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY OR TABLE THE ITEM. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT I'M AT THAT POINT? CORRECT? YES. ALL RIGHT.

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WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING SOME MORE. BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE MORE DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO THE TO THE PD PROCESS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, SO MANY OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT THAT YOU'RE MAKING THAT YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU'D MAKE, I MEAN, THAT'S THE PROCESS WE GOT TO GO THROUGH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. SO IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MORE CONSIDERATION WITH THE STAFF ON THAT. SO IF IF TABLING IT WILL HELP TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION IN THE APPLICANTS REALLY WILLING TO DO THAT, THEN I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF TABLING. BUT IT'S IT'S THAT'S THE QUESTION I GUESS I HAVE. AND WHEN WILL WE TABLE THIS TO DAVID? WHEN WOULD THIS BE TABLED TO TO THE NEXT. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO SOUND LIKE A LONG TIME OFF, BUT YOUR FIRST MEETING IN MARCH. OKAY. BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PRETTY LENGTHY ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN YOUR FEBRUARY MEETINGS AND AND PUTTING A ANOTHER OR NOT ANOTHER, BUT A ZONING CASE THAT'S I WOULD ASSUME IS GOING TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH IT AS, AS PROBABLY NOT IN ANYBODY'S BEST INTEREST. SO THAT AND I THINK IT'LL TAKE US PROBABLY SAME AMOUNT OF TIME IF WE ACTUALLY REALLY LOOK AT, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE APPLICANT SAYS, IF WE ACTUALLY REALLY LOOK AT MAKING A FEW MODIFICATIONS TO IT, TO TO BRING IT BACK, TRYING TO ADDRESS WHAT, WHAT THE COMMISSION'S TALKING ABOUT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A COUPLE OF MEETINGS ANYWAY. SO IT'S REALLY WE'RE ALMOST AT THE END OF JANUARY, SO IT'S REALLY NOT THAT LONG TO YOUR FIRST MEETING IN MARCH. I PERSONALLY I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT I DIDN'T MENTION IT BEFORE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I DO, AND STAFF DEFINITELY APPRECIATES THE APPLICANTS WORKING WITH US.

THEY'VE MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES IT'S BEEN 17 MONTHS AND THAT THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF TIME. 17 MONTHS IS A MEETING 17 MONTHS AGO AND THEN A MEETING LAST MONTH. AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL REFER TO THAT AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOU A YEAR AND A HALF. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US. I THINK HE MENTIONED SEVEN TIMES OF OF CHANGES BACK AND FORTH. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE THINK IT'S IT'S COME A LONG WAY. I WILL ALSO SAY, I THINK THAT THE PHASING THAT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THE EVOLUTION THAT THAT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS, BUT REDUCING THAT TO SOME TYPE OF STRUCTURE IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT. AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY DO, ENGINEERS, PLANNERS, FLIPPERS, WHOEVER, SOME HAVE A LOT OF VISION AND A LOT OF OF OF IDEA OF AND VISUAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT SOMETHING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S DONE AND SOME NOT SO MUCH. AND IF WE DEVELOP A SITE PLAN THAT LOOKS LIKE ONE STORY RETAIL, THAT'S WHAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE IS THE SITE PLAN WITH ONE STORY RETAIL. IF WE DEVELOP ONE THAT HAS SOME OFFICE ON THERE, MAYBE THE OFFICE IS SOUTH OF THE ROADWAY THAT GOES THROUGH. IT'S A IT'S A PLACEHOLDER. IT'S A CONCEPT. AND BUT IT GETS WHOEVER IS LOOKING AT IT THINKING ABOUT, WELL, RETAIL IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST PHASE AND THEN WE'LL GROW INTO THE THE OFFICE COMMERCIAL PART. SO I THINK THERE'S SOME BENEFITS OF DOING THAT. AND I'D LIKE ONE MORE CRACK AT IT IF THE COMMISSION IS WILLING, AND IF THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND SEE IF WE CAN PUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INTO THE VISION AND WORDS THAT, THAT WE COULD, COULD ACTUALLY ALL LIVE BY, SO TO SPEAK. I THINK THERE'S AN

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[5. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider and act upon a request to rezone J. Durrett Survey, Abstract 350, Tracts 2 & 2A, and John M. McKim Survey, Abstract 889, Tract 4, on 49.9± acres from Agricultural to a Planned Development for Single-Family Residences, located on the north side of Prosper Trail and 855± feet west of Legacy Drive. (ZONE-25-0006)) ]

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THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL IN THE PACKET DESCRIBED THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE THREE DIFFERENT LOT SIZE TYPES, RANGING FROM 11,500FT■!S TO 12,500FT■!S. THE APPLICANT HAS UPDATED THAT PLAN AND IS NOW PROPOSING THAT ALL LOTS MEET THE MINIMUM AREA REQUIREMENT OF 12,500FT■!S, WITH A BASE ZONINGF SINGLE FAMILY 12.5, HENCE MEETING THE MEDIUM DENSITY REQUIREMENT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE DENSITY OR THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS, AND HOW THE PROPOSED PD STANDARDS COMPARE WITH THE PROSPER STANDARDS FOR 12.5 SINGLE FAMILY 12.5 DISTRICT. THEY'RE COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE IN MANY WAYS.

I'LL JUST POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THE DIFFERENCES. THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH HAS BEEN INCREASED 25FT TO 150FT, AS WELL AS THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH IS 76FT. EVERYTHING ELSE IS IS SIMILAR.

SO HERE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE SUBDIVISION CHARACTERISTICS. AND AS YOU'LL SEE, IT'S A VERY LONG NARROW PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH FRONTAGE ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH. THERE'S FLOODPLAIN THROUGH THE NORTHERN PORTION, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH STAFF AND DESIGNED THIS SO THAT THERE IS A VISIBILITY CORRIDOR, IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT AND HOW IT'S REFERENCED IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHERE THERE IS A PORTION OF THIS CREEK THAT IS ADJACENT TO A PARALLEL ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE, SO THERE'S VISIBILITY THROUGH THERE.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE AMENITIES THROUGHOUT THAT AREA WITH TRAILS CONNECTING IT, CONNECTING BOTH SIDES OF THE DEVELOPMENT. OPEN SPACE WILL BE AT 10%, AND THERE WILL BE CURVILINEAR STREETS, AS THIS IS A VERY LONG, NARROW PIECE OF PROPERTY, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS SOME TRAFFIC CALMING. PORCHES WILL BE PROVIDED ON LOTS FACING THE CREEK OR OPEN SPACE, AND NEIGHBORING HOUSES HAVE TO HAVE DIFFERENT DESIGNS. IT'S REFERENCED AS THE ANTI MONOTONY STANDARD IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. AND AGAIN THERE WOULD BE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS. SO WE HAVE A LIST OF JUST A FEW PERMITTED USES BY RIGHT.

TYPICAL IN THE SINGLE IN SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AS YOU CAN SEE LISTED. AND THEN THERE ARE AMENITIES THAT ARE REQUIRED IN THE OPEN SPACE. THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THREE. AND ONE OF THOSE MUST BE IN THE FIRST FOUR LISTED ON THIS. IN THIS LIST, WHETHER IT BE A FITNESS STATION, PICKLEBALL COURT, FISHING PIER OR CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND FACILITY. HERE'S JUST AN ENLARGED. EXHIBIT OF THE PLAN. AND THAT WAS UPDATED. AND THIS PLAN, WHILE NOT UPDATED, IT DOES SHOW. AGAIN. THE OPEN SPACE HERE HAS NOT CHANGED WITH THE APPLICANT'S PLAN. THAT INCLUDES THE CREEK. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS ARE GOING TO BE SEVERAL AREAS BOTH ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDES FOR PLAY AREA AND OTHER AMENITIES. AND THERE ARE SOME MORE DETAILED PLANS THAT SHOW EXAMPLES OF WHAT THESE AMENITIES COULD BE, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ENHANCE THE MAIN ENTRANCE FROM PROSPER TRAIL. AND THEN THERE ARE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS LISTED BOTH IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS WELL AS IN A DRAFT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT IS IN THE PACKET. IT DICTATES THE MATERIALS THAT ARE ALLOWED ON THE ON THE HOMES, AS WELL AS

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HOWEVER, FOR ANY HOME FACING A STREET OR OPEN SPACE, TRAIL OR PARK, WHETHER PRIVATE OR PUBLIC, IT WOULD HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 20% FIBERBOARD ON THE UPPER STORIES. AGAIN, SOME ROOFING REQUIREMENTS. AND THEN HERE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS THAT SHOW THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOMES THAT COULD BE THERE. WE DID MAIL OUT NOTICES AND HAVE NOT GOTTEN CITIZEN RESPONSES. AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S NEW PROPOSAL. WITH THE 12,500 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZES IS FOR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. AND AFTER YOUR REVIEW OF IT AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION, IT'S SLATED TO GO TO THE FEBRUARY 10TH COUNCIL MEETING. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION, AND WE CAN PULL THAT UP WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. THANKS, SUZANNE.

SURE APPRECIATE THAT. I HAD ONE QUESTION. IT WAS BACK TO THE PORCH PIECE THAT YOU HAD UP THERE WASN'T IF IT WAS IN FRONT OF A CREEK, THEY HAVE A PORCH. IF IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF A CREEK, CREEK, OPEN SPACE, WHETHER THEY HAVE A PORCH ISN'T REQUIRED. OKAY. GOTCHA. AND THEN ON THE NEXT, CAN YOU JUST GO BY SLIDE SIX ONE MORE TIME FOR ME. SORRY. WHAT'S THAT? WHICH SLIDE? THIS ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT NOW? YES PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. THIS SETUP.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SUSAN. CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JOHN MACKENZIE. I LIVE AT 1706 BARBERRY IN ALLEN, NOT TOO FAR FROM PORTERS CREEK. SO I THINK YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING ON THAT ONE. SO TONIGHT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK STAFF. WE DIDN'T GO 17 MONTHS, BUT WE WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR A WHILE. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT OUR GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN WORKING WITH MCCASLIN FAMILY, WHO'S HAD THIS PROPERTY FOR SOME TIME. AND SO WE WANTED TO TREAT IT WITH RESPECT. AND IN THAT PROCESS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE NAME IS RESERVED AT MCCASLIN FARM FOR TWO REASONS. NUMBER ONE IS TO TO KEEP THE HERITAGE THERE. NUMBER TWO IS BECAUSE WE WE VIEW THAT OPEN SPACE AS A PRESERVE. RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY. IT'S GOT A CREEK BED. IT'S GOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FISHING PIER. IT'S ALSO GOT THE MASTER TRAIL SYSTEM. AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOT SOME CONSTRAINTS ON THE WIDTH AND WHATNOT. ONE OF THE THINGS WAS THE THE DEPTH OF THE, THE LOTS ITSELF. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MINIMIZED IT TO 150, BUT THEY'RE MOSTLY 170. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL LOT DEPTH, WHICH I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE HOMEOWNERS ARE REALLY GOING TO APPRECIATE. RIGHT. ONE OF OUR MOST EXCITING ASPECTS OF THIS, OF COURSE, IS BRINGING THIS TO FRUITION IS THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT TWO QUALITY BUILDERS WHO ARE ACTUALLY HERE TONIGHT. SO WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WE DO PROJECTS ALL THROUGHOUT TEXAS, MOSTLY IN DFW. OF COURSE. AND SO AS WE LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALIGNED WITH THE WITH THE TOWN AS FAR AS BUILDER REPUTATION AND WHATNOT. AND SO WE DID CHOOSE THE SAME AS WHAT PARK PLACE IS AND CREEK, CREEKSIDE, ETC. AND SO DREES AND SHATTUCK IS OUR BUILDER OF CHOICE. AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. AGAIN. WE'VE HAD TO MASSAGE THIS PLAN A FEW TIMES JUST GIVEN SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS. BUT I THINK STAFF HAS BEEN PATIENT WITH US AND KIND OF GAVE US SOME GUIDANCE. AND SO OVER THE LAST, EVEN OVER THE HOLIDAYS, I'LL COMMEND STAFF FOR ACTUALLY WORKING OVER THE HOLIDAYS AND HELPING US THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND EVEN OVER THIS LAST WEEKEND. SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO TOO FAR IN DEPTH UNLESS YOU'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS. I THINK THE NIGHT HAS GONE SOMEWHAT, SO I JUST WILL SAY THAT I'M CONFIDENT ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I'M CONFIDENT THE STAFF HAS GUIDED US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND I'VE ALSO CONFIDENT IN OUR BUILDERS THAT WE WILL BE REPRESENTING AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. SO I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY.

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THANK YOU. WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY FORMS OR. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE NOW GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SINCE THERE'S NO ONE HERE WE'LL JUST CLOSE IT OUT. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE FOR TOWN STAFF WHILE SUZANNE IS UP HERE? NO. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY OR TABLE THIS ITEM. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. ITEM FIVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE BY COMMISSIONER BLAZEK. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARSON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ITEM CARRIES SIX ZERO ON APPROVAL. THANK YOU.

[6. Review actions taken by the Town Council and possibly direct Town Staff to schedule topic(s) for discussion at a future meeting. ]

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THERE ARE ABOUT HALF NOW THE THICKNESS OF WHAT THEY USED TO BE, BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN A FORMAT THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN, WHICH IS KIND OF NICE. I WILL NOT PROMISE THAT YOU WON'T FIND, ESPECIALLY A COUPLE OF YOU THAT WON'T FIND SOMETHING THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED, WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE. WE'RE HOPING YOU WILL DO THAT, BUT I REALLY HOPE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO READ THEM AT THE SAME LEVEL OF INTENSITY THAT YOU DID THE FIRST TIME AROUND, BECAUSE THEY ARE MUCH CLEANER. THEY'RE STILL HAVE AND IT'S AN ENHANCED LITTLE SUMMARY BEFORE EACH CHAPTER OF WHAT'S IN THERE. SO YOU CAN KIND OF PEEK AND AND SEE. SO WE'LL GET THOSE OUT TO YOU THIS WEEK PROBABLY NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT FOR THE WEEK OR BY THE WEEKEND FOR SURE. SO THAT WILL GIVE YOU PLENTY OF TIME TO TO LOOK AT IT. AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN YOU SEE IT AGAIN, YOU WON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. IT'S ONE LAST OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU WILL, BEFORE YOU DO ACTUALLY VOTE ON IT. IF THERE IS SOMETHING IN THERE THAT THAT YOU WANT TO TWEAK OR CHANGE OR ADJUST, THERE'S STILL A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN THERE.

AS YOU RECALL, WE PULLED THEM OUT LIKE THE LIGHTING ISSUE, BECAUSE WE DECIDED, LET'S JUST PULL THAT OUT, LET'S GET THIS DONE, THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK LATER. WE MAY HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'LL WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT ARE JUST LITTLE TWEAKS, SO TO SPEAK, OR CHANGES TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, PROPOSALS OF SUBDIVISION OR WHATEVER. BUT WE'LL HAVE THE FORMAT, WE'LL HAVE THE CODE. IT'LL ALL BE IN, IN THE PROPER ORDER, SO TO SPEAK. ANOTHER THING, SPRING BREAK FOR PISD IS THE WEEK OF YOUR SECOND MEETING IN MARCH. AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER FIORE HAS ALREADY TOLD US HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT MEETING. HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT MEETING. COMMISSIONER HAMILTON SAID HE WOULD. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT EITHER. SO THAT THAT ONLY LEAVES FOUR OF YOU AT BEST. AND SO THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT WEEK OFF, DO YOU WANT US TO TRY AND AND ELIMINATE THAT MEETING, WHICH IS A POSSIBILITY THIS FAR IN ADVANCE? WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH SCHEDULING. IF WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THAT CAN'T WAIT, THEN WE CAN EITHER DO THE WEEK BEFORE OR THE WEEK AFTER OR Y'ALL. OKAY FOR US WAITING TILL WE GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO THAT TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

WITH FIRST CHOICE BEING WE'LL ELIMINATE THE MEETING AND THEN SECOND CHOICE BEING WHICHEVER ONE WILL WORK. WE'LL JUST HAVE TO POLL AND SEE WHETHER WEEK BEFORE, WEEK AFTER, OR WORKS BETTER. I MEAN, WE COULD IT DOESN'T. IF IT'S WEEK BEFORE, WEEK AFTER, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON A TUESDAY. BUT EVERYBODY'S KIND OF USED TO TUESDAY. SO IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO TRY THAT. BUT BUT LIKE I SAID THAT WOULD BE SECOND CHOICE IF WE WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING. AND THE ONLY REASON WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IS IF WE HAVE ONE OF THE 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK THINGS OR PLAID OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE WE CAN PRETTY

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BUT THE SHOT CLOCK THINGS ARE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT BASED OFF OF THE NUMBERS. AND JOHN SAID HE WOULDN'T BE HERE FOR SPRING BREAK. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ONLY HAVE THREE COMMISSIONERS AVAILABLE. OH, OKAY. SO I THINK I THINK IT'S ELIMINATED. YEAH. SO THEN FOR SURE WE'LL I THINK THAT'S A VACATION WEEK FOLKS ARE TAKING. YEAH I COULD DO BEFORE OR THE WEEK BEFORE OR AFTER IF NECESSARY. OKAY. I'LL KEEP THEM BLOCKED OUT FOR NOW OKAY. IF NEEDED. RIGHT. SO OKAY.

SO WE'LL AS WE GET A LITTLE CLOSER, WE SHOULD KNOW BY THE MIDDLE OF FEBRUARY WE'LL KNOW A MONTH IN ADVANCE WHAT WHAT IS ON OUR CALENDAR, SO TO SPEAK, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIX THAT. I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THE DATES. DON'T FORGET, NEXT WEEK ON TUESDAY, YOU'VE GOT THE MEETING WITH THE COUNCIL AND THEIR WORKSHOP PERIOD 6 TO 7. I MEAN, EXCUSE ME. YES. NO, 5 TO 6. AND IT'S ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND IT'S PRIMARILY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR THE MAYOR, I THINK, TO TO GO OVER THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL'S BEEN WORKING ON AND KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TOWARDS FOR, FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND SO FORTH. AND SO THERE'LL BE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO STATE YOUR NAME AND BOARD AND COMMISSION AND THEN THAT'S IT. SO NO FUN FACTS, NO LITTLE STORIES THERE BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL GOING TO BE THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THERE. SO IT'S A LOT TO DO IN AN HOUR. SO THAT THAT WILL PROBABLY COME UP. AND YEAH, IT'S RIGHT OVER HERE. YEAH. RIGHT. RIGHT NEXT TO THE ELEVATOR. YOU CAN GO IN FROM THAT SIDE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CONNECTED TO THE LIBRARY SIDE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE LIBRARY DOORS WILL BE OPEN THEN OR NOT. SO JUST COME IN THE REGULAR AND THEN JUST TURN LEFT, RIGHT AROUND THE ELEVATOR. YOU'LL SEE. AM I FORGETTING ANYTHING? ANYTHING ELSE? IS THE QUESTION. IS THE WORK SESSION GOING TO CONTINUE TO STAY AT 530, OR ARE WE GOING TO GO TO SIX? WE CAN MOVE THOSE BACK. THE ONLY REASON I PUSHED THIS THIS TIME, PUSHED IT A LITTLE BIT AHEAD, WAS BECAUSE WE HAD THOSE LONGER DISCUSSIONS. AND I KNEW SOME OF YOU GET HERE AND IT WAS OKAY TO START AND WE COULD CATCH THE OTHERS UP. AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL. I, WE DON'T CARE. WE'RE HERE ANYWAY. SO WHATEVER IS EASIER. I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE OF YOU THAT I THINK TWO OF YOU ALL THAT HAVE A LITTLE HARDER TIME GETTING HERE AT 530 THAN SIX. IN JANUARY. WE HAD THE, THE, THE CONFLICT AND I THINK THROUGH FEBRUARY IS WHAT HE TOLD US WASN'T IT COMMISSIONER HAMILTON. YES. YEAH. SO HE'S HE'S GOT A COMMITMENT AFTER. SO BY PUSHING IT BACK IT WAS CROWDING HIS HIS COMMITMENT A LITTLE BIT. SO WE WERE TRYING TO SKIRT THE MIDDLE. BUT I THINK GOING FORWARD WE'D PROBABLY JUST NEED TO PUSH IT BACK TO SIX BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE GETTING READY TO BE IN FEBRUARY. SO WE'LL JUST IF THAT'S ALRIGHT WITH YOU ALL THEN WE'LL DO THAT. IT'S IT'S PERFECTLY FINE. WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN Y'ALL TELL US TO DO IT. I APPRECIATE YOUR RATIONALE WHY THIS ONE WAS LONGER. I I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I JUST MISSED IT IN THE IN THE THING. SO I WAS SCRAMBLING. SO THAT'S OKAY.

WELL IT'S LIKE I SAID IT WAS THIS WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A OF A FLUKE, SO TO SPEAK. AND I, WE STILL HAD A LONG TIME OUT HERE. AND I KNOW WE'VE KEPT YOU LATER THAN WE NORMALLY DO. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT THE SECOND ONE WENT FAST. THAT'S A GOOD THING. AND THANKS FOR DOING WHAT YOU DID ON THE FIRST ONE, TOO. I DO THINK WE CAN COME BACK WITH SOMETHING BETTER.

THANK YOU. AND THEIR PRESENTATION MADE IT SOUND LIKE THEY WERE DOING A PD AND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. LIKE WHAT THE HECK? BUT WELL, WE'LL GET THERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU DAVID. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE IT AS ALWAYS. ALRIGHT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. TIME TO ADJOURN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AT 820 BY COMMISSIONER CARSON. MOTION I DO HAVE A SECOND. SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DANIELS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. WE DON'T WAN

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.