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RIGHT. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025 PROSPER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING. THIS MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:05 P.M. PLEASE NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION, CITIZENS AND OTHER VISITORS ATTENDING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING SHALL OBSERVE THE SAME RULES AND PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. ANY PERSON MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION OR WHILE ATTENDING THE MEETING, SHALL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM, IF SO DIRECTED BY THE COMMISSION OR PRESIDING OFFICER, AND THE PERSON SHALL BE BARRED FROM FURTHER AUDIENCE BEFORE THE COMMISSION. DURING THAT SESSION OF THE MEETING. DISRUPTION OF A PUBLIC MEETING COULD CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF SECTION 42.05 OF THE TEXAS PENAL CODE. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. IF EVERYONE PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OUR NEXT ITEM
[CONSENT AGENDA]
ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEMS PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE IN NATURE AND NON-CONTROVERSIAL. THE CONSENT AGENDA CAN BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE ITEMS THREE A THROUGH THREE C. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PULL ANY ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING? I TAKE THAT AS A NO. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THREE THROUGH THREE. C I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THREE, A, B AND C. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HAMILTON. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARSON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES FOR APPROVAL. SEVEN ZERO. CITIZEN COMMENTS. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ANY TOPIC. HOWEVER, THE COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA. THOSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION MUST COMPLETE THE PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST FORM, LOCATED ON THE TOWN WEBSITE AND COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IF YOU ARE ATTENDING IN PERSON. IF NOT, PLEASE SUBMIT THIS FORM TO THE BOARD CHAIR OR STAFF MEMBER. WHEN CALLED UPON, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. IF MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS WISH TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC, THEY MAY YIELD THREE MINUTES TO ONE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTED TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. ALL INDIVIDUALS YIELDING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AT THE MEETING, AND THE APPOINTED INDIVIDUAL WILL BE LIMITED TO TOTAL 15 MINUTES. SINCE I SEE NO PEOPLE, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, WHICH IS OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM. ALL RIGHT, SO PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.007 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION FOR ITEMS LISTED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE, IS OPEN. WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE'LL JUST MOVE RIGHT ON. ITEM NUMBER FOUR REVIEW ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE TOWN COUNCIL AND[4. Review actions taken by the Town Council and possibly direct Town Staff to schedule topic(s) for discussion at a future meeting.]
POSSIBLY DIRECT TOWN STAFF TO SCHEDULE TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION FOR FUTURE MEETING. ALL RIGHT.THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. SO AT THE PREVIOUS TOWN COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 11TH, THINGS ON THE AGENDA WERE A FACADE PLAN IN THE GATES OF PROSPER, NOTICE OF APPEALS, WHICH WERE BOTH APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR PROSPER WAS TABLED TO FEBRUARY 24TH, 2026.
AND THEN THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. IT WAS APPROVED, BUT IT WAS WITH ORDINANCES FOLLOWING FOR EACH SECTION. SO IT WAS JUST THE ACTION WAS FOR STAFF TO CONTINUE WITH PROVIDING ORDINANCES FOR EACH SECTION OF THE UDC IN FUTURE MEETINGS TO COME FOR TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE 25TH. THE ONLY THING ON THE AGENDA IS THE NOTICE OF APPEALS, AND THEN FOR THE NEXT PNC MEETING ON DECEMBER 2ND, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS STILL BEING DETERMINED. AND AT THIS MOMENT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CASES FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA. NOTICES WOULD HAVE TO BE SENT OUT THIS FRIDAY, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY CASE THAT IS GOING TO MEET THAT DEADLINE, SO IT'LL PROBABLY BE ALL CONSENT. ONCE AGAIN, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY WE GET DECEMBER OFF. IF I COULD JUST ADD A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS. NUMBER ONE, PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANT IS WE HAD DISCUSSED, I THINK IT WAS AT THE LAST MEETING, MIGHT EVEN
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HAVE BEEN THE MEETING BEFORE, BUT THEN I THINK THE CHAIR MIGHT HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYOR ABOUT ADJUSTING THE MEETING SCHEDULES FOR Y'ALL. AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THESE THESE WORK SESSIONS. WE DIDN'T USED TO HAVE WORK SESSIONS. AND THEN IT TURNED OUT THAT THOSE ACTUALLY WERE BENEFICIAL. AND WE'RE DOING THEM AT 530. BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL OF YOU NOW THAT IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET HERE AT 530. AND WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING THE MEETING BACK A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE TO TO 630 AS FAR AS THE START OF THE REGULAR MEETING GOES. AND STARTING THE WORKSHOP AT IT'S SIX. SO THAT WOULD GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO GET HERE. WE NEEDED AT THE STAFF LEVEL, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE LIKE A CHARTER REQUIREMENT OR SOMETHING FOR HOW WE WOUND UP WITH THE TIME. I DIDN'T THINK WE DID BECAUSE WE'D ACTUALLY PUSHED THE START DATE OR THE TIME BACK A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE AND DIDN'T GET IN TROUBLE, SO I ASSUMED IT MUST BE OKAY. BUT ASSUMING Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH DOING THAT, WE WHEN WE BROUGHT IT UP LAST TIME AND WE WERE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT STARTING AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, BUT THERE'S NO REASON WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL THEN IF Y'ALL ARE FINE WITH IT AND IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOUR SCHEDULES NOW, WE CAN START IT THE NEXT MEETING IF THAT WORKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? YOU REALLY CAN'T VOTE, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM. BUT IF IF I DON'T SEE ANY OBJECTIONS, THEN WE'LL JUST ASSUME IT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO AND WE'LL PLAN FOR IT. AND IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, YOU CAN LET US KNOW. OR YOU CAN YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING NOW IF IT'S A PROBLEM.BUT I WOULD HAVE A CONFLICT THROUGH JANUARY. OKAY, I HAVE SOMETHING AFTER THIS THROUGH UNTIL THE END OF JANUARY. OKAY. SO. SO MEANING AFTER LIKE. LIKE WHAT? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND.
YOU HAVE A CONFLICT AFTER YOU HAVE TO BE GONE. YOU HAVE TO TELL ME WHAT? I HAVE ANOTHER COMMITMENT AFTER THIS UNTIL THE END OF JANUARY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE STILL HAVE THE THE MEETING, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO BE GONE BY, WHAT, 737? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO MEANING LIKE THIS, THAT ONLY LASTS 5 OR 10 MINUTES. WOULDN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. BUT BUT SOMETHING BECAUSE THAT JUST HELPS US SCHEDULE. YEAH. WE WON'T PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO KIND OF TAKE A LOT OF TIME. WE'LL EITHER PUSH IT BACK OR WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE GET IT TAKEN CARE OF SOMEHOW. SO, SO LOGISTICALLY, IF WE MOVE THE WORK SESSION OUT AND LET'S SAY, LIKE IT WAS AN AGENDA LIKE TONIGHT, WILL WE STILL HAVE THE MEETING START AT 630 OR DOES IT, DO WE POST IT FOR SIX IN CASE WE FINISH THE WORK SESSION EARLY? OR WE CAN DO THAT WHILE WE'RE WE'RE GETTING INTO THAT TRANSITION. WE CAN. AND AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. AND THEN WE JUST START THE MEETING A LITTLE LATE BECAUSE WE CAN'T START IT EARLY IF WE'VE POSTED IT LATE. BUT WE CAN START IT LATE IF WE'RE RUNNING LATE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO TO TO TRY AND AVOID THAT FROM COMING UP. IF POSSIBLE, TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
AND IF WE SEE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LARGE, YOU KNOW, REGULAR AGENDA TO IF WE'RE SCHEDULING IT STARTED AT 630 AND GOES UP TO SIX. OR DOES IT NEED TO BE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE WE DIDN'T START IT. IT EASIER ON THE THE PUBLIC, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IF THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CONSISTENCY. BUT THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXACTLY THE SAME ALL THE WAY ACROSS. WE COULD MOVE IT IF WE HAVE LONGER THINGS. YEAH, WELL, WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WHEN THE REGULAR AGENDA WE HAD LIKE FROM 4 TO 9, THE WORK SESSION WOULD JUST BE AN HOUR. SO WE WOULD HAVE A LONGER WORK SESSION AND THEN HAVE THE MEETING. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. AND WE, WE'D DONE THAT BY STARTING THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. IF IT'S A, WHAT I WOULD CALL A COMPLICATED EITHER A ZONING OR A DEVELOPMENT ISSUE OR A HEAVY PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO THAT AND COVER ALL THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, THINGS IN A 30 MINUTE PERIOD. SO LIKE THE CHAIR SAYS, WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE GENERALLY EXPANDED THOSE OUT TO AN HOUR, WHICH WE COULD STILL DO IN REVERSE. WE JUST PUSH THINGS BACK A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T I DON'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT
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BECAUSE IT IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET THROUGH STAFF BEFORE IT WINDS UP AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND WE'RE NOT WORKING ON ANYTHING MAJOR LIKE THAT AT THE MOMENT. SO I DON'T THINK FOR THE NEXT THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS ANYWAY, I DON'T DON'T FORESEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT COMING UP. THAT'S GOING TO BE MUCH DIFFERENT FROM FROM WHAT WE DID TONIGHT. AND THEN THE THE OTHER QUICK COMMENT, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE HOMEWORK I PASSED OUT TO YOU, IF YOU WILL LOOK THROUGH IT WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME, SOME DESIRE, IF POSSIBLE, TO TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL ON THOSE AS SOON AS YOU CAN.IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT BY TOMORROW AT 315, BUT, YOU KNOW, PREFERABLY BEFORE VALENTINE'S DAY SO WE CAN CAN START TO TO GET SOME SORT OF, I'D LIKE TO SAY CONSENSUS, BUT BUT EVEN JUST A PATH, EVEN CONSENSUS MIGHT BE OPTIMISTIC. BUT BUT JUST HOW WE HOW WE GET FROM FROM FROM HERE TO THERE, WHEREVER THERE IS. SO WHATEVER YOU CAN DO AND ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THAT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANY OF YOU.
I PROBABLY NOT A QUORUM, PROBABLY NOT FOUR OF YOU, AND WHICH WE COULD DO IF YOU WANTED TO SET A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT WE'D HAVE TO POST IT AND BACK UP FROM THAT. SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT. BUT ONESY TWOSIES JUST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR SOMETHING. I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S JUST UP. AFTER YOU START LOOKING AT IT, YOU CAN SEE I, I WOULD IMAGINE YOU WILL HAVE QUESTIONS. SOME OF IT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO TO SEND ME EMAIL.
SOME OF IT MAY BE ABLE TO PICK UP THE PHONE. WHATEVER IT TAKES TO HELP YOU ALL GET TO THE POINT TO WHERE YOU CAN CAN ACTUALLY SEND BACK SOME SOME COMMENTS, IDEAS, SUGGESTIONS.
TELL US WHAT YOU HATE, WHAT YOU LIKE, IF THERE IS ANYTHING YOU LIKE, AND THEN THEN WE'LL JUST GO FROM THERE. THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE? YES SECTION THAT WE PULLED OUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT. ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT LIKE WITH THE CONSULTANT TO KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN NEIGHBORING AREAS, I GUESS RELATING TO THAT. YES, SIR. THAT AREA AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO US. SO DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE OF WHEN YOU THINK THAT SECTION WILL BE COMING BACK TO US? WE WE PULLED THEM ALL OFF FROM WHEN THEY WENT TO THE COUNCIL, SO THEY REALLY WEREN'T EVEN THERE FOR DISCUSSION OTHER THAN TELLING THEM WE PULLED THEM OUT AND THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE BRINGING THEM BACK LATER. THE THE WAY THAT THE PROCESS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK IS PROBABLY BE SIX, MAYBE SEVEN DIFFERENT ACTIONS, ORDINANCES, CHANGES TO REGULATIONS THAT WILL HAVE TO COME THROUGH. AND THEY'RE ALL SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, LIKE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOR INSTANCE. ALL THOSE ARE HOUSEKEEPING. WE DON'T HAVE A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT ANYMORE. AND THE CHIEF DOES SWEARING INS AS OPPOSED TO THE MAYOR. SO THOSE ARE HOUSEKEEPING THINGS. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE FIRE CODE OR ANYTHING. SO THAT GOES ONE PROCESS BUILDING DEPARTMENT. COUPLE OF THINGS THERE ENGINEERING THERE STANDARDS, COUPLE OF THINGS THERE. BUT THOSE ARE NOT REALLY THE SAME TYPE OF NOTICES AS WHEN WE'RE CHANGING ZONING THINGS LIKE CHANGING OUR DISTRICTS AND CHANGING THE SUBDIVISION REGS AND SO FORTH. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE SPREAD OUT OVER THE NEXT, PROBABLY INTO JANUARY AND MAYBE EVEN INTO FEBRUARY. YOU CAN SEE THOSE BROKEN UP AND YOU'LL BE ACTING ON THOSE ONE MAYBE TWO AT A TIME. LIKE MAYBE WE DO THE FIRE AND THE BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE THEY'RE RELATIVELY EASY IN THAT REGARD. BUT BUT THE OTHERS WILL BE ONE AT A TIME SO WE CAN SPEND THE TIME, GO THROUGH IT, SEND IT TO YOU. YOU'LL HAVE ADEQUATE TIME. I SAY ADEQUATE TIME WAY MORE THAN YOU'VE HAD IN THE PAST. READING THROUGH THE PARTICULAR CHAPTER. AND THAT WAY WE CAN GET IN DEPTH DISCUSSIONS ON ON ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, AND THEY'LL GO TO YOU ALL AND THEN THEY'LL GO TO THE COUNCIL. DURING THAT PROCESS, WE'LL BE WORKING ON THE OTHER THINGS AND WHERE WE WILL BRING THEM BACK TO LIGHTING AND THE THE MATRIX FOR THE THE TRADES, THE ENHANCEMENTS, THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO, THE, THE FORM BASED PART WHERE YOU GET IF YOU DO X, Y AND Z, THEN YOU CAN CAN DO A OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WE'LL BE WORKING ON THOSE. I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY'LL FIT IN. WE WANT TO TRY AND GET THE OTHER THINGS DONE BECAUSE ALSO PART OF THAT PROCESS WE'VE GOT TO DEVELOP SOME PROCESSES. WE HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A MANUAL BECAUSE WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT MANUAL NOW, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE. AND PIECES OF IT MIGHT BE OKAY, BUT EVEN THE VERBIAGE IN IT ISN'T GOING TO WORK
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ANYMORE. SO WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO BE STARTING FROM SCRATCH TO TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'LL IT'LL REALLY TAKE 30 TO 60 DAYS TO GET ALL THAT DONE. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THOSE PIECES WE'VE PULLED OUT FIRST MOST LIKELY. BUT THEY COULD VERY WELL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PROCESS. OR IT MAY EVEN BE THAT THEY WIND UP BEING AT THE END OF THE PROCESS. BUT BUT THAT'S HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK. THIS MAY BE A SILLY QUESTION, BUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND WHAT WE DID BEFORE? IS IT NOW BASICALLY THE FINAL PRODUCT THAT'S BEING REVIEWED? YES. YES IT IS. WHAT WHAT Y'ALL WERE LOOKING AT WAS THE DRAFT, IF YOU WILL, OF EVERYTHING, 750 PAGES. AND, AND IT IT HAD ALL OF THE PIECES. THEY WERE LABELED AS THE EXISTING CHAPTERS. WHEN WE COME BACK AND WE PUT THEM IN AN ORDINANCE FORMAT, THE THE FORMAT IS GOING TO CHANGE. THE CHAPTER NUMBER WON'T BE THE SAME. IT MAY ALL BE ONE CHAPTER NOW WITH WITH DIFFERENT ARTICLES INSIDE THOSE, THOSE CHAPTERS, BECAUSE THAT WILL FIT INTO OUR OUR SETS OF CODES AND ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE TOWN THAT HAS EVERYTHING IN THERE, ALL THE POLICE STUFF AND THE TRASH PICKUP AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.SO IT FITS IN. AND THIS JUST BECOMES A SECTION OF IT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PART. AND WHAT, WHAT Y'ALL WILL BE VOTING ON AS IT COMES BACK THROUGH YOU IS THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE PIECE THAT'S GOING TO FIT IN NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT SORT OF SIMILAR TO WHEN YOU DO PDS.
THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AT THE END BECAUSE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT NO LONGER CAN DICTATE MATERIALS. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO DO THAT. SO WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT TO WHERE WE WERE GIVING YOU DRAFTS OF WHAT THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE. BUT THE WAY WE'RE STRUCTURED, YOU ALL SEE THEM, BUT IT'S THE COUNCIL THAT APPROVES THEM. AND SO YOU'RE VOTING ON THE PD PART, THE ZONING PART, AND THEN COUNCIL VOTES ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS THE TEETH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MASONRY AND SO FORTH ARE. IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT THIS IS THE WHAT WAS VOTED ON BY YOU. AND THE COUNCIL WAS REALLY THE PROCESS AND THE CHANGE TO GO TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, TO GO TO THAT SYSTEM WHERE WE'RE REVERSING THE ORDER AND MOVE FORWARD. AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE BACK BASICALLY DOING THE AGREEMENTS, WHICH ARE THE ACTUAL ORDINANCES, WHICH ARE GOING TO TAKE THESE THESE THINGS AND PUT THEM INTO THE TEETH THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THEM. AND ALSO BY DOING THEM ONE AT A TIME LIKE THAT, IT'S GOING TO GIVE Y'ALL MORE TIME AND THE COUNCIL MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE INDIVIDUAL CHAPTERS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THERE IS WHAT YOU WERE EXPECTING OR WANTING, OR IN SOME INSTANCES, MAYBE DON'T WANT. SO SO WE CAN CAN CLEAN THOSE UP BECAUSE Y'ALL DID A LOT OF WORK. I'M READING THROUGH ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT LIKE I SAID, IT'S 700 PLUS PAGES. THAT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN A STAFF REPORT THAN YOU'RE USED TO GETTING. SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED WE NEED SOME TIME TO TO GET THAT, THAT FINISHED PRODUCT. GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? EVERYONE'S GOOD. ANOTHER QUESTION ON A DIFFERENT SUBJECT. SURE. ON OUR HOMEWORK PROJECT. YES, SIR. IS THERE ANYTHING AS PART OF THAT HOMEWORK OR PROJECT THAT WE ARE LOOKING THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT SOONER VERSUS LATER, WITH JUST ANY DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME THROUGH THAT WE COULD START IMPLEMENTING? THAT WOULD MEAN WE NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY OR HAVE. SEPARATE WORK SESSIONS. I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SAY YES, IF WE DO THESE EIGHT THINGS, THEN, THEN WE'LL BE GOOD. BUT FOR NOW, THE THE THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY NO. WE WE CAN CAN USE IT AS A GUIDELINE FOR WHERE WE THINK WE'RE HEADED. I THINK IN GENERAL, I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY, AND I DON'T I DON'T LIKE SPEAKING FOR FOR THREE BODIES. I, I DON'T LIKE SAYING WHAT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO DO, MUCH LESS NOW TRYING TO SAY WHAT, YOU KNOW, THREE BODIES ARE GOING TO DO GOING FORWARD. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT COMING UP WITH, WITH SOME TYPE OF A VISION FOR THE, THE, THE TOLLWAY WHERE EVERYBODY'S GENERALLY MARCHING IN THE SAME DIRECTION IS A GOOD IDEA. AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH THAT. AND SO I THINK THERE ARE PIECES IN THAT HOMEWORK THAT WE CAN TAKE. IF SOMEONE COMES IN THE DOOR AND SAYS, I'M LOOKING AT THIS TRACK, I WANT TO DO X, Y, AND Z ON THAT. WHAT DO YOU THINK? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THAT WE CAN WORK TOWARDS OR NOT? I THINK JUST THE THE FRAMEWORK, THE DRAFT IS THERE SO WE CAN AT
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LEAST HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION WITH THEM. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN AUTOMATICALLY JUMP TO THE FINISHED PRODUCT AND JUST BRING IT AND SAY, HERE, NOW VOTE FOR THIS. I THINK THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE SOME SOME DISCUSSIONS AS, AS THAT PART GOES ON. BUT BUT I THINK WE CAN USE IT FOR A GUIDE. IDEALLY WHEN WE GET COMMENTS BACK FROM, FROM ALL THE, THE PLAYERS, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE SECTIONS AND MAKE AMENDMENTS TO OUR ORDINANCES SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE MULTIFAMILY. REMEMBER WE USED TO HAVE A LOT OF CRITERIA IN THERE, AND WE TOOK THAT OUT AND WE ADDED IN THE STRUCTURED PARKING, THE RAP DESIGN, THE INTERIOR HALLS, THE MINIMUM SIZES OF UNITS AND SO FORTH. AND SO WE DIDN'T CHANGE WHERE IT COULD GO OR WHERE IT COULDN'T GO AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WITH ONE EXCEPTION.BUT WE DID CHANGE HOW IT HAD TO LOOK. SO IT ELIMINATED GARDEN STYLE WALKUP MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
WE DID ADD IN THERE THAT IT COULD ONLY BE IN THREE LOCATIONS DOWNTOWN, THE TOWN CENTER, WHICH IS GATES BASICALLY, AND THE TOLLWAY AND THE DOWNTOWN AND GATES WAS DONE AS FAR AS AT LEAST I THINK IT'S DONE AS FAR AS, AS AS MULTIFAMILY. SO WHAT'S LEFT WAS, WAS THE TOLLWAY. AND THAT'S THE TYPES OF THINGS WE WOULD LOOK AT AND COME UP WITH MAYBE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, MAYBE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF OF ACCESS POINTS, INGRESS AND EGRESS, WHICH WOULD, WOULD ALTER HOW THE FLOW IS OFF OF THE NOT ONLY THE TOLLWAY ITSELF, BUT THE SURROUNDING STREETS. MAYBE THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO WE COULD DO SOME INDIVIDUAL ORDINANCES ALONG THE WAY, AS OPPOSED TO DOING OUTRIGHT ZONE CHANGES. AND THOSE COULD OCCUR AS DEVELOPERS CAME IN AND WE FIGURED OUT WHAT EXACTLY WAS GOING TO GO AT EACH LOCATION, AND WE COULD TAILOR AGAIN, A PD FOR WHAT THAT THAT PARTICULAR IDEA WAS, SO TO SPEAK. BUT WE'D ALREADY HAVE THESE, THESE AMENDMENTS, THESE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE HAD PUT INTO PLAY THAT WOULD WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO WHATEVER THE PD WAS. AND IT'S I KNOW THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE CONVOLUTED, BUT I JUST RIGHT NOW NOT ACTUALLY SURE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO WIND UP AT THE END OF THIS PATH. I LIKE I SAID, I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOT THE SAME IDEA AND VISION, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOT THE DETAILS YET, AT LEAST ENOUGH TO WHERE EVERYBODY WOULD LATCH ON TO THE DETAILS. GOOD. SORRY I TALKED SO LONG. I THOUGHT Y'ALL BE OUT OF HERE IN FIVE MINUTES. MY BAD. I'LL SEND STAFF AN EMAIL ON THIS, BUT I WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THE NEXT MEETING. THE DECEMBER 2ND MEETING? OKAY. THANK YOU. SO Y'ALL HAVE TWO MORE THIS YEAR. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT ANOTHER YEAR ARE GONE? THANK YOU. THANKS. ALL RIGHT.
LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN BY COMMISSIONER CARSON AT 628.
SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FERRY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. APPROVAL. ADJOURN AT 629. THANK YOU
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