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ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 13TH, 2025 MEETING OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS ROLL CALL. FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, WE HAVE KERRY CASTRO. WE HAVE DEB HORAN. MYSELF, DANIEL KNOX, BOB BENSON. WE HAVE VALERIE RODRIGUEZ AND KYLE LAFFERTY. FOR STAFF, WE HAVE DAN BAKER, KURT HARTZ, MATT FURR, TREVOR HILTON, TALIA STEVENSON AND BARBARA IS IN THE HOUSE. ALSO WELCOME. SO THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS AFTER ROLL CALL IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE MINUTES FOR THE OCTOBER 9TH, 2025 PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING. DID EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW? ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE APPROVE? ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I HAVE A CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? BOB APPROVES. DO I GET A SECOND SECOND FROM VALERIE RODRIGUEZ? IF ALL APPROVE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I WITH A VISUAL. AYE. ALL RIGHT. SIX ZERO. NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS. WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, AND TODAY WE HAVE. MAYOR DAVID BRISTOL WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE ON A THURSDAY NIGHT. SO I WANT TO START WITH SAYING WELCOME TO THE NEWER MEMBERS OF THE PARKS AND REC BOARD. SO THANK YOU FOR FOR BEING HERE. YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT WHOLE SPEED DATING PROCESS AND NOW YOU'VE MADE THE BIG SHOW NOW. SO WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE RECENT BOND ELECTION. CLEARLY THE ONE OF THE THINGS DIRECTLY AFFECTED THIS PARTICULAR BOARD, $24 MILLION WORTH OF PARKS THAT DID NOT GET PAST. SO JUST JUST TO BE POINT BLANK, I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT WE DID NOT GET THAT PASS. I, I TAKE A LOT OF THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT AS THE LEADER AND NOT GIVING ENOUGH COMMUNICATION OUT TO EVERYONE. I WOULD SAY THAT I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOW CHALLENGED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITHOUT THAT MONEY, SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL HAVE A PLAN THAT YOU CAN PRESENT TO US OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY KIND OF DISAPPOINTING. THERE WAS THERE WERE COMMENTS OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA TODAY ABOUT OUR BELLA PROSPER PROJECT THAT WE TABLED, AND FOLKS SAID, OH, WELL, TURN IT INTO PARKS AND REC SPACE. IT WAS A COMMENT BACK THAT SAID WE DIDN'T PASS THOSE BONDS, SO WE CAN'T DO THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE HAD THAT SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED FOR. BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN THAT'S GOT TO COME FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, I HAVE TO I'LL PUT ON MY MY KIND OF OTHER HAT AND SAY, WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS NOT GETTING OUT AND VOTING. THIS PARTICULAR BOARD WAS BETTER THAN SOME, I THINK SIX OUT OF SEVEN OF THIS PARTICULAR BOARD VOTED. OTHER BOARDS DID NOT HAVE AS GOOD OF PARTICIPATION. SO IF I CAN'T CONVINCE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR IT TO GET OUT AND VOTE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO CONVINCE THE REST OF THE PUBLIC? SO WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, I'M SORRY THAT WE DIDN'T GET IT DONE. THE CHALLENGE IS NOW BEFORE YOU HOW WE WE MOVE FORWARD AND DO THE THINGS THAT WE WANT. PEOPLE STILL SAID THEY WANTED PARKS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE COMMENTARY, I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE COMMENTED THEY WANT THEIR PARKS, THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THEM.
THEY WANT TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN THEIR TAXES FOR THAT. AND WE DID NOT COMMUNICATE THE END RESULT OF THAT WELL ENOUGH. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND THE ENTIRE TOWN COUNCIL AS WELL AS OUR BOND COMMITTEE, WE WILL HAVE THE JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. I DON'T KNOW IF I DON'T THINK IT'S ON YOUR AGENDA. WE CANNOT FLOAT CEOS FOR THIS FOR THREE MORE YEARS. SO THE FOR THESE PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT WERE JUST DEFINED THERE, WE WILL ALSO NOT USE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE THE WAY THE TOWN COUNCIL GOES. THERE ARE OTHER AREAS AROUND HERE THAT DO THAT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO AGAINST WHAT THE VOTERS WOULD THINK, HAVE SAID AND TRY AND FIND ANOTHER WAY TO PAY FOR STUFF.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE VERY TACTICAL, VERY DILIGENT IN HOW WE PLAN FOR OUR PARKS GOING FORWARD. AND I WISH YOU LUCK. THANK YOU FOR DOING IT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND THEN AS YOU TALK TO THE FOLKS IN YOUR COMMUNITY, MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT NEEDING PARKS AND STUFF, YOU REFER BACK TO THE THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION. PEOPLE SAID THEY DID NOT WANT TO SPEND THAT MONEY. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THE TOWN COUNCIL WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT OUR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY THAT WORKS OUT OF DOUBLE WIDE TRAILERS. THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO FIND A WAY TO GET THAT FIXED. BUT PARKS THERE WON'T BE A NEW LIBRARY. SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WILL BE THE IMPACT. WE'VE HEARD THE VOTERS AND
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THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. SO WITH THAT, I JUST SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND GOOD LUCK WITH THE REST OF YOUR AGENDA. THANK YOU, MADAM BRISTOL, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ONLINE OR IN PERSON? GOOD EVENING BARBARA. HI. I'M SORRY. OH. HELLO. IS IT ON? IT'S ON. OKAY.I'M BARBARA CATONI, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO I HAVEN'T MET, I'VE BEEN TASKED WITH RECRUITING AND SCHEDULING VOLUNTEERS FOR THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL, DECEMBER THE 6TH, WHICH SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN IN THE PAST. AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME OF YOU BACK. I WILL FOLLOW THIS UP TOMORROW WITH AN EMAIL TO EACH OF YOU TELLING YOU WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE THE CHILDREN'S CHRISTMAS SHOP THAT'S INSIDE, SO THE WEATHER IS GREAT IN HERE NO MATTER WHAT IT IS OUTSIDE. AND THE CHILDREN'S SHOP FOR CHRISTMAS GIFTS. AND WE PUT YOU IN APRONS. AND BOB IS OUR OUR HEAD GIFT WRAPPER. I KNOW THAT HE. AND IT'S IT'S KIND OF A TOUGH JOB, ISN'T IT, BOB? YEAH. CHALLENGING GIFT BAGS. TISSUE PAPER. DONE. YES, YES. ANYWAY, IT'S EITHER BEING PARTNERED UP WITH A CHILD WHO'S SHOPPING AND THEN JUST TAKING THEM AROUND.
SO MOM AND DAD ARE NOT WITH THEM AND THEN TAKE THEM TO THE CASHIER, AND MOM AND DAD PAY AND OFF THEY GO. AND YOU WAIT FOR THE NEXT CHILD. SO IT'S NOT A DIFFICULT JOB, BUT IT'S A JOB WHERE WE REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHO WE HAVE, DEALING WITH THE CHILDREN WE HAVE THE PROSPER YOUNG LADIES ASSOCIATION HELPING WITH THAT PROJECT, AND ALSO THE NATIONAL CHARITY LEAGUE. SO IF ANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU. BARBARA. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS TO RECEIVE STAFF UPDATES. AND FIRST WE HAVE RECREATION. IS THAT MR. TREVOR. YOU'RE GOING TO SKIP AROUND OKAY. YEP. WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU THAT OKAY. OKAY. YOU. THERE IT IS. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. YEAH. IF YOU ALL RECALL, WE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU BACK IN AUGUST. WE HAD A CONSULTANT THAT PRESENTED IT. YES. I'M SORRY. YOU OKAY? DANIEL. SORRY. OKAY, SO WE HAD A CONSULTANT THAT PRESENTED IT AND WE DISCUSSED IT HERE. AND Y'ALL PROVIDED SOME REALLY GOOD COMMENTS IN THE PLAN HAS BEEN REVISED BASED ON THOSE COMMENTS.
WE WANTED TO BRING IT BACK SOONER, BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME THINGS THAT HAPPENED. WE COULDN'T DO IT IN SEPTEMBER OR LAST MONTH. SO HERE WE ARE THIS EVENING. THESE ARE THE IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD ORIGINALLY WE HAD THREE CONCEPTS AND BASED ON COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK WE HEARD FROM YOU, WE'VE BOILED IT DOWN TO THESE TWO CONCEPTS. WE MADE SOME CHANGES BASED ON THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM YOU. WE REMOVED THE SOUTH PLAYGROUND, WHICH WAS IN THE GREEN SPACE THAT'S KIND OF OVER THERE IN THE MIDDLE ON THE FAR RIGHT. I THINK THERE WERE CONCERNS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE FLOODING AND SOME SAFETY ISSUES. SO THAT'S GONE. WE HAVE ADDED VOLLEYBALL UP IN THE NORTH END BASED ON SOME COMMENTS. WE'VE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE TRAIL SYSTEM TO KIND OF MAKE THINGS LINK UP BETTER. THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH YOU AND WE WERE SHOWING MORE NATURAL AREAS. SO WE ARE BRINGING BACK TO YOU HOPING THAT AND IF Y'ALL NEED MORE TIME TO REVIEW IT, WE CAN SEND IT OUT AN EMAIL. BUT WE WERE JUST HOPING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU TO APPROVE IT SO THAT WE CAN TAKE IT BACK, TO TAKE IT TO COUNCIL AND FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION. AND I'M I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SO WHAT ARE THE I CAN HEAR YOU. LET ME BE OFFICIAL. WHAT ARE THE MAJOR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO? WELL, LIKE I JUST SAID, YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE OLD ONE TO LOOK AT. SO BEFORE WE DIDN'T HAVE VOLLEYBALL AND WE HAVE THAT NOW IN THE, IN THE SORT OF THE GREEN BLOB THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A BIG PUTTING GREEN OVER THERE. IT'S ON THE FAR RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. WE HAD A, WE HAD A PLAYGROUND PROPOSED THERE, BUT THERE WAS CONCERNS THAT THAT AREA IS LOW AND IT MIGHT FLOOD AND THOSE ARE VALID CONCERNS. SO WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE FIGURED THAT WE REALLY ONLY NEED THE ONE THAT'S WAY UP AT THE NORTH END, CLOSER TO THE BASEBALL FACILITIES. SO THAT'S BEEN REMOVED. THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE THE LINKAGES AND THE WAY THE TRAIL SYSTEM WORKS. SO THAT'S BEEN REVISED. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT WE JUST MADE SOME REVISIONS. BUT THE DIFFERENCES ARE NOT HUGE. THEY'RE NOT MAJOR. IT'S STILL OVERALL THE SAME LAYOUT. WE JUST THERE WERE MINOR CHANGES WE MADE BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS TOLD US. SO CURT, IN IN LIGHT OF THE BOND PACKAGE NOT PASSING. RIGHT. WHAT'S THE
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DELTA IN COSTING YOU MEAN FROM THE CONCEPTS BEFORE TO THIS? I'M NOT SURE. OH, IT WOULDN'T BE MUCH. MAYBE HALF $1 MILLION. WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT AND TO DO EVERYTHING HERE. IT'S SOMETHING LIKE $75 MILLION. SO IT'LL WE'RE LOOKING AT TEN. OBVIOUSLY IT'S JUST WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO TO PROCEED WITH THIS PROBLEM. WE'D LIKE TO OKAY CONCEPTUAL PLAN IN PLACE SO THAT WHENEVER THOSE DOLLARS GET TURNED BACK ON FOR THE BOND PROGRAM, WHETHER IT'S A BENEFACTOR WHO KNOWS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF MONEY FOR THIS PARK. SO BUT REALLY, WHAT WE WANT TO DO SO WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU FINANCIALLY AT ALL. WITH OUR COUNCIL COMMITTEE, MOST LIKELY WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT JUST TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD, AND IT WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE PHASED AS WELL, RIGHT? MOST LIKELY. SO REALLY JUST. AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT. BUT REALLY THE INTENT AND I JUST GO OKAY. HEY DID DID WE, DID WE HEAR YOU CORRECTLY ON THE AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A COUPLE MONTHS SINCE WE'VE WE REVIEWED IT LAST. DID WE DID WE HEAR YOUR CONCERNS. WE ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS. WE CAN STILL IF IF THERE'S STILL SOMETHING YOU DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO ANOTHER ROUND OF CHANGES. BUT REALLY THIS IS THE THIS WILL REALLY GET IT'S GOING TO GET PUT IN A DRAWER FOR A LITTLE WHILE. AND WHEN WE WHEN NEXT TIME WE ADDRESS ANYTHING LIKE A BOND PROGRAM, WE'LL SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT'S IT'S NOT NOT SHOVEL READY JUST YET, BUT WE'RE READY TO GO ON ON THE PLANS OR WE WILL BE READY TO GO ON THE PLAN. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. I, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS ANY FALSE HOPE THAT NOTHING'S GOING TO GET BUILT THE NEXT 2 OR 3 YEARS. IT'S UNLIKELY IT IS A MASTER PLAN. SO ONCE THIS THING DOES FINALLY GET UNDER DESIGN, THERE MAY BE CHANGES BASED. ONCE THEY REALLY START GETTING IN AND LOOKING AT IT, YOU LOOK AT THE GRADING PLANS AND ALL THAT. THERE MAY BE SOME FINE TUNING.DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE PARKING COUNT FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELDS? I KNOW THAT, I GUESS I SHOULD REPHRASE. THAT'S A TOUGH I DON'T NEED THE EXACT COUNT. HOW DO YOU ALL DO YOUR PARKING, I GUESS. HOW DO YOU PLAN YOUR PARKING BASED ON THE NUMBER OF TEAMS? AND DO YOU DO WHAT TYPE OF MATH ARE YOU USING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S PLENTY. SO WE USED RAYMOND PARK SORT OF AS A METRIC TO GO OFF ON THIS ONE. WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 400 SPACES OUT THERE. WE TOLD THE TEAM THAT WE NEEDED AT LEAST THAT MUCH HERE. SO WE'VE GOT ALL TOGETHER. IF IT'S BUILT OUT THE WAY WE'RE SHOWING NOW, IT SHOULD BE A LITTLE OVER 400 PARKING SPACES. AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH ROOM FOR MORE THAN THAT. SO WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE THAT WORK. THAT WAS JUST A STARTING POINT FOR US BECAUSE WE FIGURED, OKAY, RAYMOND'S GOT IT. PROBABLY SIMILAR FACILITIES THAT WE'RE SHOWING. SO WE THOUGHT, OKAY, IF 400 HOPEFULLY IS GOING TO WORK FOR US AT RAYMOND, WE FIGURED THAT WOULD BE A GOOD NUMBER FOR HERE. AND I KNOW IT'S HARD TO TELL BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MUCH, BUT SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE ALL THE RECTANGULAR FIELDS ARE, YOU SEE THE GRAY ALONG IN THERE. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S PARKING SPACES ALL UP AND DOWN THERE. IT'S JUST IT'S TINY, AS YOU KNOW. YOU DEAL WITH THIS ALL THE TIME. SO.
YES. NO, I, I LIKE I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'VE DONE. I FEEL ESPECIALLY THE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT YOU'VE GOT ACTIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND PASSIVE MORE ON THE SOUTH AND DIVIDING THOSE USES SO THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK THROUGH AND PROGRESS THE PLAN AND ITS EVOLUTION HAS REALLY ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE BOARD WAS LOOKING FOR. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WENT INTO BRINGING THESE OPTIONS TODAY. ANOTHER THING THAT Y'ALL TOLD US IS, I THINK YOU WANTED TO SEE MORE PRESERVATION OF NATURAL SPACE AND OPEN SPACE, AND WE'VE DONE THAT AS WELL IN THE SOUTH END. YEAH, WE JUST SORT OF IT WAS JUST GUEST. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE, WE USE SOME METRICS FOR RAYMOND. YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT AND WE KIND OF KNOW AS FAR AS PROGRAMING THE FIELDS. RIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE IF YOU'VE GOT A BASEBALL FIELD, RIGHT, YOU'VE PROBABLY GOT ABOUT 15 KIDS TIMES TWO PER FIELD. PLUS THEN YOU'VE GOT THE OVERLAP. SO REALLY IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE PROGRAMING FOR FOUR TEAMS PER BASEBALL FIELD AND SUCH ON WITH THE DIFFERENT FIELDS. BUT AND THAT WORKS UP TO A POINT. OUR LEAGUES GET VERY CREATIVE ON HOW TO USE SPACE. SO SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE MISSED THE MARK ON LAKEWOOD INITIALLY BECAUSE WHEN THE DESIGNERS LOOKED AT THAT, IT WAS LIKE, OH, IT'S THREE SOCCER FIELDS. AND SO THEY DID THAT. WELL WHAT? AND I WAS BRAND NEW HERE TOO. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT PASO'S PROGRAM WAS. I WAS LIKE, OH NO, WE'RE NOT. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THREE SOCCER FIELDS. IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING 12 SOCCER FIELDS. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO CHOP THEM UP FOR THE LITTLE GUYS. AND SO WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE METRICS THAT WE APPLIED TO THIS. ALSO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME OPEN SPACE AND SOME GOING TO BE SOME NON-PROGRAM USE SO THAT THERE TOO. SO WE'VE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR
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THAT. IT SHOULD BE FINE AS IS DEPICTED, BUT AS LEAGUE SIZES CHANGE OR OR DEMAND CHANGES FOR DIFFERENT SPORTS, WE MAY HAVE SOME CHALLENGES IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE WILL IF WE GET TO THAT POINT. AS KURT SAID, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE ROOM TO ADD PARKING. WE MIGHT GET CREATIVE, MAYBE WE CAN PICK UP SOME ADDITIONAL LAND ADJACENT, OR WE CAN ADD PARKING, OR WE DO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS JUST TO THE WEST. SO THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS. THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS JUST MANAGING THE FIELDS TO, WE MIGHT TELL WHOMEVER'S PROGRAMING THEIR SPACES, THEIR, THEIR FIELDS. YOU'RE NOT STARTING EVERY FIELD ON THE HOUR, RIGHT? IT MIGHT BE THIS FIELD STARTING AT EIGHT. THIS ONE'S EIGHT, 15. SO YOU OR OR WOULDN'T BE QUITE THAT TIGHT. BUT SO YOU DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING JUST FLUSHING EVERY HOUR. SO YOU CAN INCREMENTALLY. AND THAT THAT HELPS SAVE A LITTLE BIT. SO THERE'S SOME MANAGEMENT THAT WE CAN USE TO. BUT WE FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE BASED ON THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW. IS IT ALWAYS GOING TO BE PERFECT? PROBABLY NOT, BUT IT SHOULD BE.IT SHOULD BE FAIRLY GOOD. IT'S ALWAYS A TOUGH METRIC. YEAH. THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW YOU ALL THOUGHT THROUGH THAT, BECAUSE IT'S AS YOU JUST EXPLAINED, IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO GRASP WHAT IT TRULY IS NEEDED. AND THEN IF YOU OVER PARK IT, IT JUST SITS AND YOU'VE EATEN UP ALL THE LAND THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED. SO. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS WE NEED TO TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. YES. IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT OR IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, WE CAN BRING IT BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING IF YOU ALL SO TAKE IT HOME, DIGEST IT AND WRITE, AND THEN WE CAN. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AT A FUTURE MEETING, TOO. IF YOU DON'T, THERE'S NO REASON TO RUSH BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE, RIGHT, THIS THING'S GETTING BUILT, YOU KNOW, IN MARCH. SO IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SOME TIME, WE CAN BRING IT BACK IN JANUARY OR WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, YOU TALKED ABOUT PASO. HAVE YOU ALL COORDINATED WITH THEM ON THE FIELDS AND THE AND THROUGH THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS OF WHAT THEIR NEEDS MIGHT BE OR NOT YET YOU GUYS FIRST. OKAY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEFORE WE APPROVE IT. I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF THEY AT LEAST WERE ABLE TO PUT EYES ON IT AND THEN MAYBE COME BACK TO US FOR A CONSIDERATION IN ACTION, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF WE APPROVE IT AND THEN PASO SAYS IT DOESN'T MEET THEIR NEEDS, WE'VE KIND OF SKIPPED A STEP. SO SO HERE'S WHAT I'LL TELL YOU. WITH THAT, THEY'RE ALL GROWING SO QUICKLY. AND SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS MAKE ALLOCATIONS OF WHAT WE CAN TO EACH NEW PARK. WE'RE BUILDING A AN ATHLETIC COMPLEX. SO I, I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITHOUT HAVING A DEEP, DARK DISCUSSION WITH THEM OR PBSA OR ANYBODY ELSE, BUT BECAUSE BECAUSE WE MEET WITH THEM, WE TREVOR AND I PROBABLY TALKED WITH ROBERT ALMOST WEEKLY. SO WE HAVE WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING WHERE THEY ARE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THREE, 4 OR 5 YEARS FROM NOW IS. YOU READ ALL KINDS OF THINGS. TREVOR GOES TO CONFERENCES. HE'S REALLY OUR GUY FOR RECREATION, ATHLETICS. IT'S NOT. IT'S UNLIKELY, BUT WE MIGHT TURN AROUND HERE IN TEN YEARS AND GO, MAN, WE REALLY DON'T NEED THAT MANY BASEBALL FIELDS ANYMORE. WE NEED A HECK OF A LOT MORE CRICKET OR WE NEED A LOT MORE OF SOMETHING, RIGHT? WHATEVER THE NEXT. FAD, NEXT TREND IS. SO WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO BE SMART WITH THE, WITH THE LAND WE HAVE. SO I'LL JUST TELL YOU FROM THE DIRECTOR'S SIDE, I'M NOT SO WORRIED ABOUT HAVING A SPECIAL CONVERSATION WITH WITH PASO OR PBC OR PSC BEFORE YOU GUYS APPROVE IT, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE, WE ARE WE ARE DESIGNING BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE ALREADY HAD WITH THEM. THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE BUILD, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH. AND AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TELL THEM THAT WE EVER WILL. AND I'VE TOLD THEM WE PROBABLY NEVER WILL HAVE ENOUGH WITH WITH THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD WITH THE MAYOR. I'VE GOT A MEETING WITH TREVOR AND MARIO AND MY BUS CHUCK, MY BOSS, CHUCK EWING'S. WE HAVE TO START HAVING. AND WE'LL BRING THIS TO YOU AFTER WE HAVE OUR CONVERSATION. THAT'LL BE A FUTURE MEETING. COMING UP IS WHAT ARE WHAT ARE OUR STRATEGIES FOR PROGRAMING? BASED ON IF WE'RE NOT BUILDING ANY NEW FACILITIES AND WE KNOW OUR POPULATION'S GOING TO ALMOST DOUBLE OVER THE NEXT DECADE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MANAGE THAT? ARE WE GOING TO TELL THE LEAGUES, LISTEN, HERE'S WHAT YOU HAVE HERE.
UNLESS YOU CAN FIND SPACE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR WITH A NEIGHBORING TOWN OR CITY, SOME KIND OF FACILITY, THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO. AND SO IT'S NOT GOING TO FEEL GOOD. BUT THEN IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO WE REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE 90% PROSPER KIDS? AND WE ALREADY HAVE SOME, SOME
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REQUIREMENTS LIKE THAT. OR MAYBE DO WE TELL THEM, LISTEN, IT MAY BE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OUT OF OUTSIDE OF PROSPER OR PROSPER ISD KIDS PARTICIPATING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ROOM. WE CAN'T SERVE ALL THE THE THE PROSPER KIDS. WHY WOULD WE LOOK AT ANYBODY FROM MCKINNEY OR AUBREY OR SALINA OR FRISCO OR WHEREVER? I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT THOSE ARE THE DISCUSSIONS WE'RE GOING TO START HAVING. NO. THAT'S PERFECT. I DON'T WANT TO CREATE EXTRA WORK FOR YOU ALL. AND AND IF THIS IS HOW YOU I'M GOOD WITH THAT. AND I MEAN, I CAN I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IF, UNLESS ARE WE SELECTING ONE OVER THE OTHER. YES. YOU'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS OKAY. WE DO NEED TO SELECT ONE OR THE OTHER, OR AT LEAST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CAN TAKE TO COUNCIL. SO WHEN WE GO TO WE WILL EVENTUALLY TAKE THIS TO COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANNING. WE'VE TALKED WITH THE PARKS BOARD ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. WE'VE HEARD FROM THEM, WE'VE MADE THOSE CHANGES. THEY ARE RECOMMENDING OPTION WELL, WHEN WE TAKE IT TO THEM, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING. BUT I NEED YOU ALL TO DECIDE. DO YOU LIKE OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO BETTER OR DO YOU GO I REALLY LIKE OPTION ONE. BUT THERE'S THAT ONE THING IN OPTION TWO I'D LIKE TO INCORPORATE. WE CAN STILL MAKE THOSE CHANGES.THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE DID AFTER THE FIRST TIME WE BROUGHT THESE TO YOU. WE HAD THE THREE.
WE HEARD YOU, WE MOVED SOME THINGS AROUND. WE TRIED TO PULL TO TO CREATE THESE TWO OPTIONS.
SO I'M CURIOUS, DAN, IF IN THE MASTER PLAN, IF THEY WERE ASKING MORE FOR I SEE THE OPTION OF HAVING LIKE A PUMP TRACK ON OPTION ONE OR THE VOLLEYBALL COURTS ON OPTION TWO.
WAS THERE A HIGHER REQUEST FOR ONE OF THOSE AMENITIES? NO. I THINK THE REASON I THINK DANIEL WAS THE ONE THAT RECOMMENDED THAT HE SAID THAT WE NEED MINUTES. HE SAID THAT WE NEEDED MORE VOLLEYBALL AROUND TOWN BECAUSE WE ALMOST HAVE NONE. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY WE ADDED THAT WAS A GOOD COMMENT. AND THEN THE PUMP, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT PUMP TRACKS. I THINK ORIGINALLY WE HAD WE WERE SHOWING WE WANTED TO HAVE AN E-BIKE, OF COURSE, BUT I THINK IT WAS DETERMINED THAT MAYBE THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE A GOOD IDEA. SO WE WE'VE PULLED THAT.
THERE'S REALLY AND TRULY THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO IS ITEMS NUMBER SEVEN ON OPTION ONE. AND WE'RE I'M SORRY, WHERE NINE IS AN OPTION ONE AND SEVEN ON OPTION TWO. YEAH. OTHERWISE I MEAN THE NORTH END IS ALMOST IDENTICAL ON BOTH OF THEM.
THERE'S A FEW MINOR DIFFERENCES. LIKE AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT THE THE VOLLEYBALL IN THE NORTH END. I MEAN I DON'T KNOW I GUESS WE, WE DO NEED ONE OR THE OTHER DON'T WE. WE'VE GOT OUR, OUR OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN WHERE WE DID WE SURVEYED I DON'T KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IF VOLLEYBALL WAS A IT WAS A LARGER REQUEST THAN, THAN PUMP TRACKS. I THINK THEY WERE BOTH KIND OF MIDDLE OF THE ROAD OR DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER EITHER. THAT'S WHY I ASKED. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. AND WE WE PROBABLY SHOULD IF THAT'S WHAT IF THAT'S WHAT THEY ASKED FOR, YOU KNOW, CAN WE BUILD THAT? AND THEN I'M ALSO CURIOUS BECAUSE YOU DID BRING UP CRICKET. HOW HOW MANY CRICKET PITCHES DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE. SO WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO IS TO NOT SPECIFY WHAT WE'RE DOING IN OUR ATHLETIC. THAT'S THE MULTI-USE. THAT'S EXACTLY. THAT'S WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD GO. WE WERE JUST BASED ON RECENT INTERACTIONS. WE'VE DECIDED WE'D JUST LEAVE IT. IT'S JUST MID MULTI-USE SPACE COULD BE USED FOR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. YEAH. WE'RE STILL WE'RE STILL FILLING OUT THE COMMUNITY. RIGHT. WE KNOW THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S MORE CRICKET NEEDED. WE'VE PUT IN A PITCH LAST YEAR AT LAKEWOOD. WE'RE KIND OF FEELING OUR WAY THROUGH THAT. WE KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME OPEN PLAY AND JUST SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. WE'RE JUST WE DON'T WANT TO COMMIT.
WE DON'T WANT TO PUT IT UP THERE. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE EVERYBODY COMES IN AND GOES, WELL, IT'S GOT TO BE THAT OR IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING ELSE, OR, HEY, I DON'T WANT THAT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO WE'RE TRYING TO STAY FLEXIBLE. THAT COULD BE ADDITIONAL RECTANGULAR FIELD SPACE IF WE DECIDE LATER. MAYBE WE NEED ANOTHER BASEBALL SOFTBALL FIELD OR HEY, MAYBE IT TURNS INTO FOR CRICKET. IT COULD BE ANYTHING, RIGHT? WHAT SIZE IS THAT? WELL, TO TRY TO.
YEAH. TO ANSWER KERRY'S QUESTION NUMBER 16 I GUESS ON BOTH OF THEM. ISN'T THAT RIGHT? 18 AND 16. 18. SORRY. 18 AND 16 ON THE OPTION TWO, IT BASICALLY WOULD GET ONE LARGE CRICKET FIELD BECAUSE THEY'RE HUGE. THEY'RE LIKE TWICE THE SIZE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD. SO YEAH I MEAN I LIKE BOTH OF THESE. I YOU KNOW, I HAVE MY OWN OPINIONS ON WHAT AMENITIES I'D LIKE TO SEE, BUT I'M WONDERING LIKE WHAT THE GREATER COMMUNITY WOULD WANT. BECAUSE REALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT I CAN SEE IS THE PUMP TRACK OR THE VOLLEYBALL COURTS. RIGHT. AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE WE WE DID A SURVEY, WE HAD MORE THAN 400 RESPONSES. AND SO THIS WAS ALL BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT BACK IN THAT SURVEY. AND PART OF IT TOO IS IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE VOLLEYBALL RIGHT NOW. SO LET'S THROW ONE IN THERE.
LET'S SEE IF IF IF NOBODY WANTS IF NOBODY COMES OUT AND PLAYS VOLLEYBALL THEN WE CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THAT. THAT PIECE OF LAND WE'RE ALL WE'RE DOING IS PULLING POSTS. AND YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IF IT'S GRASS, THAT'S EASY. IF IT'S SAND, WE REMOVE THE SAND, WE WE PLANT GRASS, IT'S FINE PUMP TRACK. WE KNOW THE BIKES ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE POPULAR. LET'S TRY IT.
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IF IT IF IT DOESN'T WIND UP BEING POPULAR, THEN WE'LL DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THAT AREA.SO IT'S. THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S AT LEAST WITH THOSE TWO, NEITHER ONE IS LIKE A HEAVY CAPITAL EXPENDITURE. SO WE STILL HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITYLE. O OUT OF CURIOSITY WHY IS LIKE SEVEN ON. IS THE PUMP TRACK ON OPTION ONE. BUT ON OPTION TWO THAT SPACE IS KIND OF JUST BLANK. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S IN CASE THE PUMP TRACK REALLY IS NOT WANTED. I MEAN THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I MEAN IT'S A PUMP TRACK. I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. THAT'S A DIRT. IT'S KIDS ON BICYCLES BUT THEY'RE NOT MOTORIZED. YEAH. NO THEY'RE, THEY'RE THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE THEY ALMOST DON'T HAVE TO PEDAL. THEY GET STARTED TO GET THEIR MOMENTUM. AND THEN THE GRAVITY KIND OF TAKES YOU THROUGH THE. IT WAS OUR CONSULTANT THAT KIND OF THREW THAT ONE OUT THERE MORE THAN US. IT WASN'T SOMETHING WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR. I THINK THE THE ONLY HESITATION I HAVE ON OPTION TWO IS THAT YOU LOSE AN ENTIRE BASEBALL FIELD FOR VOLLEYBALL, AND IT LOOKS LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL PICKLEBALL COURTS. I GET IT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THAT MAYBE IF VOLLEYBALL WAS WAS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY SAID THEY WANTED, IF WE COULD INCORPORATE THAT IN OPTION ONE WITHOUT LOSING A FIELD SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE CAN DO WE CAN EASILY GO BACK TO THE CONSULTANT AND WE CAN WE CAN COMBINE ANY ELEMENTS OF EITHER ONE OF THESE THAT YOU WANT AND WE CAN BRING IT BACK IN JANUARY. AS DAN MENTIONED, THERE IS NO HURRY ON THIS BECAUSE AS HE SAID, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BUILT NEXT YEAR. SO GIVE ME A LONG TIME. I WOULD SAY. ARE WE IN AGREEMENT TO WAIT UNTIL JANUARY OR. YEAH, YEAH. DO WE WANT TO TENDER ANY. DO YOU WANT TO GIVE. DO WE WANT TO GIVE HIM SOME COMMENTS OF WHAT WE'D LIKE THEM TO WORK ON? I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. YEAH. SO ARE YOU RIGHT. HAVE YOU BEEN TAKING NOTES ON. SHE'S BEEN TYPING OVER THERE. SO ONE ONE THING I HEARD WAS LET'S TRY TO KEEP ALL THE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND SEE IF WE CAN'T FIND A SPACE TO PUT THE VOLLEYBALL IN, RELOCATE IT SO WE DON'T LOSE THOSE FIELDS AND SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THAT ELSEWHERE. AND I WOULD I WOULD ALSO SAY PICKLEBALL IS SO POPULAR. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD MAY HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET INTO WINDSONG JUST TO PLAY, BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE REALLY TO PLAY. AND SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO INCREASE THAT, THAT NUMBER OF COURTS, I MEAN, WE MIGHT LOSE A I'D LOVE TO SEE THE PROS AND CONS OF WHERE THOSE NEED TO BE WITHOUT LOSING. MAYBE A BASEBALL FIELD, BUT MAYBE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF RECTANGULAR FIELDS. AND MAYBE LET'S REDUCING ONE OF THOSE TO PUT IN VOLLEYBALL AND PICKLEBALL MAYBE. BUT HAVING THEM EVALUATE THAT OR YOU ALL GUIDING WHICH ONE, YOU KNOW, WHICH SIX ONE WAY, HALF A DOZEN THE OTHER SOMETIMES. BUT IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO JUST TO SEE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE ON A PLAN. BOTH PLAN BOTH OPTIONS HAVE TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS. WELL, JUST MORE BECAUSE. OPTION ONE. OPTION TWO LOOKS LIKE IT HAS DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF PICKLEBALL. IS THAT RIGHT UP THERE. THEY TOOK IT AND FLIPPED IT. THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S REPLACING ONE OF THE FIELDS PART OF PARTIALLY WITH THE RIGHT. WITH THE VOLLEYBALL COURT. WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S ROOM FOR IT SOMEWHERE. JUST REMEMBER THAT THE ONLY HIGH END DRY LAND IS BASICALLY WHERE THE FOR THE FOUR PLEX IS UP THERE, RIGHT? EVERYTHING ELSE IS FLOODPLAIN. I KNOW, THAT'S WHY I WANT TO DESIGN IT FOR THEM.
SO I JUST TRIED TO, BUT IT'D BE GREAT IF THEY COULD EXPLORE WHERE THAT MIGHT BE. AND IF THEY CAN'T PUT ANY MORE PICKLEBALL BECAUSE WE LOSE A FIELD, AWESOME. THEY WENT THROUGH THE EXERCISE AND WE GOT OUR ANSWER. YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, WE COULD LOOK AT WE'RE NUMBER 22 OR 23 DEPENDING ON THE OPTION. THERE'S ROOM. IT'S A IT'S BASICALLY A GIANT GRAVEL PARKING LOT KIND OF THING. WE OWN IT. WE DON'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY ROOM FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS THERE. WE CAN LOOK AT IT. DAN I DON'T KNOW. IT'S IT'S HIGH AND DRY. THAT'S ONE GOOD THING ABOUT IT. THE, THE OTHER THING I ALSO WANT YOU TO CONSIDER IS THAT JUST NOT PROBABLY LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES FROM THIS PARK WILL EVENTUALLY BE WINDSONG COMMUNITY PARK. AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN SOME OF THOSE THOSE ITEMS. SO THAT ONE WILL HAVE A LOT OF SIMILAR IT'LL HAVE EVENTUALLY PICKLEBALL, TENNIS, MORE SOCCER, MULTI-USE FIELDS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO EVEN IF WE CAN'T GET IT IN HERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TIME FRAME BEFORE WE CAN BUILD EITHER ONE OF THESE. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE A LITTLE ON THIS ONE, MAYBE WE MAKE UP FOR THAT ON THE OTHER ONE SO THAT WE STILL HAVE THOSE OPTIONS. OPTIONS BETWEEN THE TWO. BUT THAT'S PERFECT. AND THE ONLY OTHER I KNOW IS MASTER PLAN LEVEL. BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE FROM MATT SAKE WHICH ONE WE WANT IS ARTIFICIAL TURF, JUST AS WE, YOU KNOW, EVEN RIGHT NOW CALLING OUT A MASTER PLAN, SETTING THE STAGE JUST BECAUSE THE COST IS SO MUCH MORE FOR ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE WHAT WILL BE, WHATNE ARTIFICIAL DIRECTION WE'VE BEEN GIVEN IS THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELDS. SO RIGHT NOW WHAT I WOULD TELL
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YOU, IN A PERFECT WORLD, AT LEAST, EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT IN THE FLOODPLAIN, I DON'T I'M NOT A PROPONENT OF PUTTING ARTIFICIAL TURF IN A FLOODPLAIN, BUT EVERYTHING THAT'S UP ON THAT, WE'LL CALL IT THE HAMMERHEAD, THE THE PANHANDLE, IF YOU WILL, THOSE WE WOULD PROPOSE TO BE ALL ARTIFICIAL TURF. MAKES SENSE NOW, WHEN THE WHEN THE BILL COMES IN, THEN, THEN THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE GO OH WELL MAYBE SO. BUT BUT WE'RE GOING TO START OFF THAT WAY.PERFECT. SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I WAS NOT HERE WHEN THIS WAS DISCUSSED. SO. OKAY. OF COURSE TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, I'LL GET WITH YOU AND WE'LL SEND YOU THE ORIGINAL AND THEN THESE AND THEN WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND WE'RE GOING TO SIT DOWN WITH OUR CONSULTANTS AND MAYBE TAKE EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE HEARD AND BOIL IT BACK TO ONE CONCEPT THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY ALL BE GOOD WITH FOR JANUARY. BUT WE'LL GET WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THIS MONDAY MORNING, IF THAT'S OKAY. SO THAT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLAN. LET'S LET'S RESEND OUT THE ORIGINAL. WE'LL SEND OUT THESE TWO. AND IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS, LET'S SAY BEFORE THE JANUARY MEETING, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND EMAIL. THAT GOES FOR EVERYBODY. WHY DON'T YOU EMAIL THOSE TO US. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT YOU YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENT, AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN GET THOSE INCORPORATED BEFORE THE JANUARY MEETING, I'M SURE. AND SO SO WHEN WE GET INTO TO WHAT I PRESENT WITH THE CALENDARS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET IN DECEMBER BECAUSE THAT'S BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT. SO MAYBE WE GIVE EVERYBODY GIVE EVERYBODY A MONTH. SO MAYBE IF I ASK FOR THOSE BY WHATEVER DECEMBER, LET'S JUST CALL DECEMBER 10TH.
I'M JUST MAKING UP A NUMBER. BUT GIVE EVERYBODY ABOUT A MONTH TO LOOK THROUGH THEM AND GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK. AND THEN WE'LL BE PREPARED TO COME BACK IN JANUARY AND PRESENT ALL THOSE CHANGES, IF ANY. WAS IT IN THEIR SCOPE AND I DON'T I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE CONTRACT IN FRONT OF YOU. WAS IT IN THEIR SCOPE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A PHASING PLAN? AND REALLY, WHERE I'M GOING IS WHAT THE MAYOR JUST SPOKE ABOUT, UNDERSTANDING WHAT HOW MUCH OF THE APPLE WE CAN BITE OFF? I'D LOVE TO SEE AT THE END OF THIS, JUST UNDERSTANDING WHERE THOSE PHASING, HOW THE PHASING COULD WORK, ALIGNING WITH THE PARKING SPACE MASTER PLAN, BUT ALSO FOR THE BOARD TO JUST UNDERSTAND, FUNDING WISE WHAT'S ACHIEVABLE. AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED YEARS JUST ARE THEY THINKING THE FOUR PLEX IS PHASE ONE OR IS IT THE THE TRAIL SYSTEM IS PHASE ONE? THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO UNDERSTAND ALSO. OKAY, I DON'T REMEMBER. I CANNOT RECALL IF IT'S IN THEIR SCOPE, BUT I'M SURE WE CAN WORK THAT OUT WITH THEM. OKAY. SO OKAY SO WE'LL TAKE THAT AND YOU PRESENT IT BACK IN JANUARY. WE'LL TABLE IT TABLE IT TILL JANUARY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO MISS YOU BY THE WAY. I APOLOGIZE. I'M NOT SORRY. I THINK WE APPARENTLY NEED A MOTION TO TABLE. OKAY, OKAY. YEAH, I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE A MOTIONS. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND FROM BOB? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR WITH A VISUAL AND AN I A ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'RE TO RECEIVE STAFF UPDATES. TREVOR. SORRY.
GOOD EVENING. PARKS BOARD. WE JUST WRAPPED UP THE VETERANS DAY HONOR RUN 10-K, FIVE K AND FUN RUN THIS PAST SATURDAY AT FRONTIER PARK. AS YOU SEE, WE HAD 377 REGISTERED PARTICIPANTS WITH THAT ONE. LAST YEAR WE WERE AT ABOUT 417. SO A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP THERE, BUT IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. THE WEATHER WAS BEAUTIFUL. NO, NO REAL ISSUES THERE. WANT TO THANK OUR PLATINUM SPONSORS, CAROL BUTERA SALES, TEXAS AND TEXAS HEALTH PRESBYTERIAN PROSPER, BOTH PLATINUM SPONSORS THERE WE HAD CLOSE TO ABOUT 30 VOLUNTEERS BETWEEN ROTC AND HELPING BARBARA. NATIONAL CHARITY LEAGUE. SO WE HAD ONE WE. THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD SHOWING BY BOTH VOLUNTEERS. THIS WAS THE SECOND YEAR THAT I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD THE ROTC THERE. SO BIG THANK YOU TO THEM. AND WE ALSO THIS WAS A THIS WAS A DIFFERENT YOU COULD SAY WRINKLE, BUT WE HAD THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE VETERANS MEMORIAL, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARK NEAR THE GRASS BASEBALL FIELDS. AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANYTHING TO SAY OR NO. AND SO DID THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR THAT. SO IF YOU'RE EVER AT FRONTIER PARK, TAKE A LOOK AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AND A LOT OF ONE THING KIND OF THAT WE'D WORKED OUT WITH THE PROSPER ROTARY WAS THAT ANY NET REVENUE PROCEEDS FROM THE RACE WOULD GO TO HELP
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FUND THAT. AND I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE ALL GOOD WITH THEM. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM RIGHT NOW TO SEE. SO IN THE PAST, THAT WAS ALWAYS SOMETHING WE LOOK AT AS WE COVER ALL OF OUR EXPENSES AND THEN ANYTHING ON TOP WE WOULD DONATE TO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL.AND WE WE'RE PROBABLY NOT DONE WITH THEM YET BECAUSE WHAT WAS BUILT WAS WHAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING THE FIRST PHASE. THEY STILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THEY WANT TO DO OUT THERE. SO I WOULD PROBABLY WE'VE GOT ANOTHER YEAR OF OF OUR PROCEEDS GOING TOWARDS THAT PROJECT UNTIL WE CAN GET IT FINISHED OUT. BUT BUT YEAH, IT WAS LIKE I SAID, A GREAT EVENT AND ANNUAL EVENT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO NEXT YEAR. WE'LL BE HOSTING THIS AGAIN. SO WAS ANYONE. I WAS RUNNING AROUND LIKE A CRAZY PERSON. WERE YOU THERE? SO DID EVERYTHING GO PRETTY WELL AS FAR AS FROM WHAT YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE? NICE. PERFECT. GREAT.
BUT YEAH. AND AND AS FAR AS RECREATION GOES, WE'RE JUST WE'RE KIND OF ON THE WAY DOWN FOR FALL PROGRAMING. AND SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WINTER PROGRAMING GOING ON. NOT ANYTHING LIKE WE WOULD SEE IN THE FALL OF THE SPRING. AND SO RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING THE SPRING PROGRAMS AND HAVE THOSE READY TO ROLL. AND WE DO HAVE A NEW STAFF MEMBER THAT WILL BE STARTING ON DECEMBER THE 1ST. SO ONCE WE GET INTO THAT, I'LL MAKE SURE TO SEE IF THE INDIVIDUAL WANTS TO COME INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TO THE BOARD. BUT SO YEAH, THINGS ARE THINGS ARE ALWAYS BUSY. AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE YOUTH ATHLETICS ARE WRAPPING UP. SO THEY'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK. AND THEN WE MEET WITH THE PIC BOARD NEXT WEDNESDAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. UP NEXT IS PARK DEVELOPMENT WITH KURT. I DON'T HAVE MUCH THIS EVENING. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF QUICK UPDATES ON RAYMOND PARK. A LOT A LOT HAS BEEN HAPPENING OUT THERE. A LOT'S HAPPENED JUST SINCE I PUT THIS SLIDE TOGETHER MORE THAN A WEEK AGO. THE TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE COMPLETELY FINISHED NOW. THEY LOOK BEAUTIFUL. I JUST DON'T HAVE AN AERIAL TO SHOW YOU. BUT THE NETS ARE UP. WE ARE GOING TO LOCK THEM UP UNTIL THE PARK OPENS BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE AT THIS POINT WITH LAKEWOOD, PEOPLE WERE BREAKING THE GATES TO GET IN AND PLAY.
SO WE'VE GOT THEM LOCKED RIGHT NOW. BUT BUT THEY LOOK REALLY GOOD AND THEY PICTURE THE MAIN RESTROOM CONCESSION BUILDING THERE. A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THIS WAS TAKEN, BUT THINGS ARE REALLY GOING WELL. THAT BUILDING IS PROBABLY PAST 85%. AS I MENTIONED, TENNIS COURTS ARE 100%. THE FENCING AROUND THE BASEBALL FIELD IS DONE NOW. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. THAT TRAIL IS COMPLETELY DONE. THEY FINISHED THE LAST POUR FOR IT THIS MORNING. THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS GOING IN. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S ABOUT 75%. IT'S GOING TO BE A COOL PLAYGROUND BECAUSE IT'S ON A SLOPE. IT'S REALLY NICE. AND THEN THINGS ARE GOING WELL OUT THERE. DAN AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND AN INVITATION. IF ANY OF YOU ARE INTERESTED, WE'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A TOUR. WE DID THAT FOR THE COUNCIL RECENTLY. I THINK THE ONLY CAVEAT IS WE CAN DO WE CAN'T DO MORE THAN THREE AT A TIME. BUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US ANY TIME DURING THE WEEK. WE'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU A TOUR, SHOW YOU HOW THINGS ARE GOING OUT THERE. I THINK THE LAST TIME I PRESENTED, WHICH WAS TWO MONTHS AGO, I PROMISED I'D GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THE PARK AT COOL RIVER AND IT'S ALMOST FINISHED. PICTURE DOWN THERE SHOWS THE PLAYGROUND. I THINK ALL THAT REMAINS IS A SMALL PAVILION WHICH WILL BE SITED NEXT TO THE PLAYGROUND. IT'S A TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. THIS IS OUR NEWEST ONE. IT'S ABOUT SEVEN ACRES. IT HAS A LOOP TRAIL AROUND IT, A SMALL PLAYGROUND WHICH YOU CAN SEE.
IT WILL HAVE A PAVILION WITH A COUPLE PICNIC TABLES. IT'S A LOT OF NICE OPEN SPACE, BUT IT'S A NICE LITTLE PARK. THIS ONE WAS DONE BY THE BLUE STAR DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. I THINK.
ALSO WHEN I PRESENTED LAST, I GAVE YOU ALL A LONG LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN PARK PLANNING, AND ONE OF THEM THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MORE THAN A YEAR NOW IS THIS LITTLE DOWNTOWN PLAZA, WHICH WE DESIGNED IN-HOUSE. WE'RE ALMOST DONE WITH IT. I THINK ALL ALL THAT'S LEFT IS WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOME LIGHTING UP, WE'RE GOING TO STRETCH LIGHTS. THEY'RE GOING TO KIND OF CRISSCROSS THIS ALL THE WAY ACROSS THERE, THE WHOLE THING. SO IT'LL BE LIGHTED AT NIGHT. BUT IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD. WE'RE HAPPY EXCITED ABOUT THE WAY IT'S COME OUT. IT'S ALMOST DONE. IF YOU LOOK KIND OF OVER THERE BY WHERE THOSE TWO BIG BROWN SORT OF DOOR LIKE THINGS ARE, THE FENESTRATION ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THERE.
THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A GREASE PIT IN THERE. SO UNTIL THEY DO THAT WE CAN'T REALLY CALL OUR PROJECT FINISHED. ONCE THEIR GREASE GOES IN, WE'LL PUT SOME NICE ROCK ON TOP OF THAT AREA AND THEN WE WILL BE 100% DONE. BUT IF YOU'RE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, GIVE IT A LOOK AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK. THAT'S IT FOR ME. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. THANK YOU.
THANKS, KURT. OKAY. NEXT UP PARK OPERATIONS WITH MATT FOR. HELLO EVERYONE. SO A COUPLE OF EASY SLIDES. EXCUSE ME. THIS IS SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. THIS IS ALL AT
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FRONTIER PARK. LITTLE GRAFFITI AND AND LIMBS BREAK. NOTHING MAJOR. YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, THIS IS MY FAVORITE TIME. ALL THE SPORTS GET CLOSED DOWN, WE START WINDING DOWN.AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN PROBABLY 12 YEARS SINCE WE STARTED THE RYE SEED THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY HAVE A STAGE. SO BASEBALL FINISHED. THEY GOT ALL THEIR GAMES IN EARLY, SO WE STARTED RYE SEED ON ALL THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND SOUTHWEST CORNER FOOTBALL FINISHED. SO NEXT WEEK WE START, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATING ALL THE SOCCER COMPLEXES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO TUCKER AND LAKEWOOD WILL BE NEXT WEEK. AND THEN THE 24TH THANKSGIVING WEEK WILL BE STARTING. FOLSOM AND FRONTIER SOCCER. SO THIS IS THIS HAS WORKED OUT SO MUCH BETTER.
USUALLY IT'S ALWAYS THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING. WE'RE IT TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, ALL IN THREE DAYS ON A SHORT WEEK. AND IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO GO OUT, SCALP EVERYTHING, VERTICUT REMOVE ALL THE TOP, YOU KNOW, GRASS, THATCH, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S GOING REALLY WELL. GUYS ARE EXTREMELY BUSY. WE'RE AROUND ALL TOWN RIGHT NOW DOING ALL THE BEDS, LANDSCAPE, PLANTING THE TREES. WE JUST HAD ARBOR DAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THERE. I THOUGHT WE HAD A REALLY GOOD SHOWING, ABOUT 40 PEOPLE. I WOULD SAY IT WAS A GOOD SHOWING. YEAH, A GIRL SCOUTS AND BOY SCOUTS, REALLY.
AND THIS IS THOSE GROUPS HAVE BEEN GREAT FOR US. FOR ARBOR DAY, WE WERE ACTUALLY TALKING TO THEM. THE GIRL SCOUTS HAVE BEEN WITH US SINCE THEY WERE DAISIES, WHICH IS THE SMALLEST GROUPS THAT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEIR WHATEVER IS EQUIVALENT TO EAGLE SCOUTS FOR THE BOYS. I THINK IT'S THE GOLD STAR AWARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO GIRLS ARE GROWING UP. THE BOYS ARE GROWING UP REALLY GOOD GROUP. WE DID IT AT TANNER'S THIS YEAR. WE ACTUALLY PLANTED MORE TREES THIS YEAR THAN EVER BEFORE. WE HAD THREE GOOD TREES AND AND A CRAPE MYRTLE, SO FOUR TOTAL. SO THAT WAS REALLY GOOD. THAT WAS WHAT LAST FRIDAY THE SEVENTH, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE TEXAS ARBOR DAY. SO IF Y'ALL NEXT YEAR, IF Y'ALL EVER WANT TO JOIN, IT'S A IT'S SOMETHING REALLY FUN FOR THE KIDS. AND THAT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE EVENTS ACTUALLY TOO. SO ANYWAY, YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE REALLY BUSY DOWNTOWN WORKING ON PROJECTS RIGHT HERE IN I THINK THEY'LL START THE DAY AFTER THE OR THE MONDAY, MAYBE THE SUNDAY AFTER OUR CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL. THEY'RE GOING TO START CUTTING DRAINS IN. SO I'M WORKING WITH THOSE SINCE WE TAKE CARE OF THIS, THIS SITE. SO WE'RE KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE RIGHT NOW WORKING WITH THE CART, DIFFERENT MEDIUMS, DESIGNS AND GETTING PRICING ON ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS. SO THIS WE'RE REALLY, REALLY BUSY ON MY END. THIS IS THIS IS THE FUN TIME OF YEAR. NOT JUST THE SAME OLD, SAME OLD GETTING THE FIELDS READY. SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY MORE SLIDES. CAN I ASK WHAT'S THE PICTURE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT? WHAT IS THE BOTTOM RIGHT? THAT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE ARTIFICIAL FIELDS WHERE THEY TORE GOT SOME GOOD OLD EBIKES AND BURNOUTS. AND SO WE HAD WE HAD SOME DAMAGE. WE HAD DAMAGE AT TANNER'S, BUT LUCKILY THAT THAT WAS FIXED TOO. SO IF Y'ALL REMEMBER THE THE NEXT HILL I THINK IS, I DON'T KNOW, NEXT COURT THAT BASKETBALL LINING THE PLASTIC. SO THEY WERE GOING OUT THERE TOO AND BURNING OUT. SO IT'S TAKEN US A LONG TIME TO GET THAT DONE. BUT THEY FINISHED THAT RIGHT BEFORE THE ARBOR DAY OUT THERE. SO E-BIKES ARE A IT'S IT'S NOT A GOOD. YEAH. IT'S IT'S A CHALLENGE. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING UP ON THE MEMORIAL SITE. BRAND NEW DAY OF AS SOON AS WE OPEN IT. NOT BEFORE WE HAD TO GO OUT THERE AND WASH IT. THE ROTARY CLUB WAS OUT THERE WASHING IT. THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED BURNING OUT ON TOP, YOU KNOW, JUST DISRESPECT. SO WE'RE WORKING ON IT. YOU KNOW, MY STAFF IS OUT THERE EVERY NIGHT TRYING TO CATCH THEM, INFORM THEM, LET THEM KNOW. COPS ARE ALWAYS HELPING US OUT EVERY CHANCE THEY GET. IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. YES. I WAS SAYING EARLIER AT FRONTIER, THEY WERE BENCHES STACKED UP. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THOSE WERE LIKE THE SOCCER MATCHES. THEY'RE ALL JUST ONE OF THEM. WE WERE RUNNING SATURDAY, SO WE USED TO HAVE THEM ON THE FIELD. SOMEBODY GOT INJURED. WE'VE HAD THE SAME BENCHES OUT THERE FOR A LONG
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TIME. SO ON THE END CAPS, THE PLASTIC PIECES GOT SCREWS IN THERE. WELL THEY'LL JUST FALL OFF AND THEN IT'S JUST STRAIGHT ALUMINUM. SO SOMEBODY CUT THEMSELVES. SO THE ONLY I DON'T HAVE TIME TO FIX ALL THOSE BENCHES DURING THE SEASON. SO WE HAD TO REMOVE THEM IMMEDIATELY. SO THE PLAN IS I HAVE A PLAN FOR THIS WINTER. TRY TO COME IN THERE. THERE'S NO REALLY REPLACEMENT FOR THE ACTUAL PLASTIC PIECE THAT COMES ON THERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO DO SOME KIND OF PLASTI DIP, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HARD COATING, MAYBE SOMETHING BETTER THAN WHAT ACTUALLY COMES ON THERE. THAT'S MY THOUGHT PROCESS. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT YET. HOPEFULLY NEXT SPRING WE'LL HAVE BENCHES AGAIN. WE'LL SEE. THIS IS JUST A SOME MORE IRRIGATION WAS YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN DRY. THEN WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF RAIN. YOU KNOW, OUR GROUND CAN YOU KNOW SHRINKS, EXPANDS ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF LEAKS THIS YEAR. WELL ACTUALLY IN THE LAST MONTH FRONTIER WAS REALLY, REALLY A GOOD ONE RIGHT BEFORE THE OCTOBER. EVENT THAT KAILYN HAD OUT THERE. PAVILION. I HAD A MAJOR LEAK RIGHT THERE WHERE EVERYTHING NEEDED TO GO, BUT WE WORKED AROUND IT. GUYS WORKED GREAT, FIXED EVERYTHING. WE'RE DOING A LOT OF PROJECTS TOO, WITH THE WITH THE MEDIANS THAT ARE GOING IN AND THE CIP PROJECTS ARE GOING FOR SCHOOL ZONES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO THEY'RE HAVING TO GO ACROSS SOME OF OUR LANDSCAPE. SO WE'RE GOING IN THERE REDOING WHAT WE CAN, DIGGING DOWN IN-HOUSE BECAUSE CONTRACTORS ARE SO FAR BEHIND TOO. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ADDING SLEEVES. AND RIGHT BEFORE THE STAMPED CONCRETE GOES IN. SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF STUFF IN-HOUSE THAT WE TYPICALLY DON'T DO JUST BECAUSE ALL OF OUR CONTRACTORS ARE SO BUSY DOING ALL THE OTHER STUFF. THEY'RE SO FAR BEHIND OUR TREE, OUR FANNIN TREE, WE ALWAYS GET A LOT OF TREES FROM THEM. THEY'RE THEY'RE ABOUT A MONTH BEHIND ON EVERYTHING. THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR TO DO IT. SO WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ACCIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN CHECKING OUT TREES. FINALLY GOT THOSE. WE STILL HAVE SOME DOWNTOWN OR RIGHT HERE IN THE PARKING LOT, SO WE'RE WORKING ON TREES HEAVY RIGHT NOW THE BEST THAT WE CAN. BUT SINCE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING IN-HOUSE THAT WAY, WE ALWAYS HAVE CONTRACTOR, WHICH IS FANNIN. USUALLY. SOMETIMES THEY START, BUT MAINLY FANNIN TREES. THEY'VE BEEN GREAT. THEY'RE JUST EXTREMELY BUSY RIGHT NOW. SO. I THINK THAT'S IT. YEP. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. JUST I THANK YOU. OPERATIONS RUNS GREAT. BUT EVERY THREE MONTHS I TELL YOU THANK YOU I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS I HAVE BUSINESS ASSOCIATES THAT COME THROUGH OUR TOWN. AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. AND WHAT YOU GUYS DID ON PROSPER TRAIL IS MAGNIFICENT. IT JUST ABSOLUTELY LOVED. IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A COMPLETE DIFFERENT ROAD. YEAH. AND THAT'S CREDIT TO CART THAT THAT WAS HIS PROJECT. WE'LL BE IN CHARGE OF MAINTAINING IT. BUT ONCE WE ACTUALLY GET THE, YOU KNOW THE GOLDEN KEY TO IT, IT'LL BE MINE. BUT SO FAR IT'S STILL NOT MINE. I'M SURE HE HAS SOME UPDATES AT SOME POINT FOR 380. THE GREEN RIBBON THAT'S A THAT'S ABOUT DONE, BUT THERE'S STILL PERMITS FOR WATER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT THAT THAT REALLY LOOKS GOOD. AND MY CONTRACTOR THAT I HAVE SET UP FOR THE REGULAR MAINTENANCE, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO PUT MORE INTO TO 380. COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE STUFF ON 380. IT'S JUST A HARD I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A HUNDRED TIMES, BUT I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE DOING A BETTER JOB TRIMMING THE BUSHES, KEEPING THINGS DEAD OUT. WE'LL KEEP PLANTING MULCH AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO SINCE IT'S NOT 100% IRRIGATION, IT'S HARD TO TO MANAGE EVERYTHING OUT THERE. BUT NOW WE'VE TAKEN AND THE SOLAR JUST DOESN'T WORK.WE'VE LEARNED THAT. SO WE'VE GONE BACK IN WITH BATTERY POWERED NODES IN OUR VALVES. SO WE'RE ABLE TO CONTROL THEM. YOU KNOW, THAT WAY NOW BECAUSE WE LOSE CONTROL AND POWER ALL THE TIME ON 380 CAN'T CAN'T COMMUNICATE. SO WE'VE WE'VE REALLY WORKED ON DIFFERENT OPTIONS NOW. SO HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER NEXT SUMMER. WE'LL SEE. OKAY. THANK YOU MATT.
THANK YOU ALL. NEXT UP DAN BECKER DIRECTOR'S CORNER. ALRIGHT I DON'T HAVE A TON FOR YOU GUYS. SOMETHING THAT I DID FORGET. SO I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE WE COME BACK FOR OUR NEXT MEETING. WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE OUR OFFICER ELECTIONS TONIGHT. SO MY FAULT. SO PLEASE. BUT PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, SECRETARY POSITIONS, YOU KNOW YOU MAY GET NOMINATED WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT THAT THAT TENDS TO HAPPEN WITH THIS GROUP. BUT NO, WE'VE HAD DANIELS DONE A GREAT JOB. BOB'S
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DONE A GREAT JOB, AND I FORGOT WHO'S OUR CARRIER? THE SECRETARY. RIGHT. YES. SO SHE'S DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB. SO. WELL IT'S IT'S EVERYONE'S DONE. DONE GREAT. SO IF ESPECIALLY VALERIE DEB BEING OUR NEW FOLKS, IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN, WE CAN CERTAINLY WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT IT TAKES TO DO THOSE, THOSE JOBS. SO BUT SO SO I APOLOGIZE. I LEFT THAT OFF. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THIS AGENDA. IT'LL BE ON THE JANUARY 1ST BECAUSE WE ARE CANCELING THE DECEMBER MEETING BECAUSE IT'S OUR ANNUAL RECEPTION FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND THAT'LL BE IF YOU HAVEN'T, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN INVITATION AT THIS POINT. IF NOT, WE CAN GET YOU THE INFORMATION, BUT IT'LL BE DECEMBER 11TH, 5:00 AT THE GIN IN MICHELLE LEWIS. SIRIANNI IS KIND OF RUNNING THAT THAT PROGRAM. IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING, LET ME KNOW. PLEASE SEND ME AN EMAIL. I'LL GET YOU THE INVITATION. SO THAT'S COMING UP. SOMETHING ELSE WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO IS TO SET UP A WORKSHOP WITH THE WITH OUR TOWN COUNCIL. THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT BASICALLY ESTABLISHING MAYBE A LITTLE MORE FORMALIZED PARK NAMING PROCESS AND ALSO TALK ABOUT PROGRAM FEES. AND I TOLD YOU I WOULD HAVE PROGRAM FEES TO YOU, AND THAT'S ON ME AS WELL. I HAVE NOT HAD A GOOD. SO I'M ZERO FOR TWO WITH YOU GUYS. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PARK FEES PROGRAM AND OUR PARK DEDICATION AND JUST PARK. WHY AM I DROPPING THE BALL? WHAT'S IT CALLED? PARK IMPROVEMENT FEES. SO I STARTED WORKING ON IT. I DIDN'T GET IT DONE. SO YOU'LL ALSO BE SEEING SOMETHING FROM ME VERY SOON. AND MAYBE IT'S A GOOD THING SINCE WE'VE GOT DEB AND VALERIE, SO THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THOSE BEFORE. SO I'M GOING TO PRETEND LIKE THAT'S WHY I DID IT. BUT ANYHOW, BASICALLY, FOR VALERIE AND DEB, WE WERE ASKED TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF OUR PARK FEES, AND THAT'S OUR THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM RENTING A PAVILION OR A BALL FIELD. ALSO TO WHAT DEVELOPERS PAY US WHEN THEY BRING A DEVELOPMENT TO TOWN PARK, PARKS DEPARTMENT, PARKS AND REC GETS FEES FOR THAT TOO, SO THAT WE CAN EVENTUALLY BUILD A PARK, OR WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM TO BUILD A PARK WHEN THEY COME IN AND BUILD A NEW DEVELOPMENT. SO I WAS WORKING ON PUTTING IT TOGETHER SO YOU COULD SEE SOME OF OUR COMPARISON MUNICIPALITIES AROUND US TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING OR ASKING. SO I'VE GOT ALL THAT DATA, I JUST NEED TO PACKAGE IT AND GET THAT TO YOU. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AS WELL. SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN JANUARY. BUT GOING BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL'S ASKED US TO PUT TOGETHER A TIME FRAME. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WOULD BE. I'M GOING TO MAYBE LOOK AT STARTING OUR JANUARY MEETING WITH THEM, KIND OF LIKE WE'VE TRIED TO DO WHEN WE WERE WE WERE TRYING TO WORK, WORK IT OUT WITH OUR WITH THE CITIZENS ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE OR EXCUSE ME, COMMUNITY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. ALWAYS CALL CITIZENS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE. SO IT'LL BE SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE THAT. SO WE'LL EITHER LOOK TO SEE IT MIGHT BE A STANDALONE DATE OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING. WHAT I THINK SINCE YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE THESE THESE MEETINGS ON YOUR CALENDARS, THEN WHAT WE MIGHT TRY TO DO IS GET THAT AS THE FIRST HALF OF OUR MEETING.MAYBE WE GO A LITTLE LIGHTER ON OUR DEPARTMENT UPDATES OR DIVISION UPDATES TO YOU. SO WE'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING, BUT YOU'LL SEE AN INVITATION FOR THAT COMING UP FAIRLY SOON AS WELL. AND THEN JANUARY 8TH WILL BE OUR NEXT PARKS BOARD MEETING. SO WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOU AT THE RECEPTION. IF YOU CAN MAKE IT. IT'S IT'LL BE A FUN NIGHT. FOOD AND DRINK AND AND IT WAS A WE DID ONE AT THE BLACKHAWK BREWERY LAST TIME. IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. FOOD WAS REALLY GOOD. WE HAD A GOOD TIME. SO WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO. SO, DAN, YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'VE KIND OF REQUESTED OUR INPUT BY THE 10TH ON DOE BRANCH.
AND THEN I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A WORKSHOP WITH COUNCIL, DO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE FEES AND STUFF BEFORE THEN AND THEN? SO THEN WHEN WE COME IN ON THE EIGHTH, WE'RE GOOD TO GO. I WILL HAVE ALL THAT TO YOU VERY, VERY SOON SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT AND AND YEAH, MAYBE AND MAYBE WE I ASK YOU I'LL, I'LL SEND YOU SOMETHING. IT MIGHT BE WE LOOK AT THAT SAME TARGET THAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THE, THE PARK THAT FOR THE AROUND DECEMBER 10TH. SURE. MAYBE WE GET THE PARK FEES BACK FROM YOU TOO. BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE TIME TO LOOK AT IT. AND AGAIN, I'M SORRY, JUST IT HONESTLY, IT FELL OFF MY FELL OFF MY RADAR. SO. NO, I THINK THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL WITH THE TWO NEW MEMBERS. THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T GET DONE. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. SO NOW WE'LL GET THAT TO
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YOU IN ENOUGH TIME SO THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE READY FOR WHEN WE WORKSHOP THAT WITH, WITH. AND AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T TALKED WITH COUNCIL ABOUT JANUARY AS FAR AS THE DATE GOES, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT DONE SOONER THAN LATER. SO. ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE PARK NAMING. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS FOR, OR IS IT JUST KIND OF AN INFORMAL PROCESS THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO FORMALIZE? SO WE HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A I CAN'T SAY IT'S AN INFORMAL PROCESS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A PROCESS. WE JUST HAVEN'T DONE A LOT OF THEM WITH YOU. SO I THINK IT MAY TURN INTO A SO I I'LL JUST LET YOU KNOW. AND WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION AND ACTUALLY AT ONE OF THESE MEETINGS BEFORE VALERIE AND DEB GOT HERE, WHEN WE NAMED PARVIN PARK, THAT'S THE MOST RECENT ONE WE HAD. YOU ALL DO. WE HAD A GENTLEMAN WHO I BELIEVE HAD COME TO A PARKS BOARD MEETING SOMETIME AFTER YOU ALL HAD HAD DONE THE NAMING FOR US. KENNY. YEAH. TEMPLETON. KENNY ELLIOT LIVES VERY CLOSE TO WHERE PARK AND PARK IS NOW.THE TEMPLE, TEMPLE OR TEMPLES ARE ANOTHER KIND OF I'LL CALL HISTORIC FAMILY IN THE AREA, AS ARE THE PARDONS. AND SO HE'S BROUGHT THAT UP A COUPLE TIMES. WE HAD A COUNCILMAN ASK ABOUT THAT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO. I THERE I THINK MAY WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT POSSIBLY RENAMING PARVIN PARK. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. MY FEELING ON THAT IS THAT WE DON'T, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE THAT CHOICE ONCE. ONCE YOU ALL YOU WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE GOT THE NAMING DONE. MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOLD. SO THAT'S REALLY MY BIGGEST HANG UP ON TRYING TO CHANGE THAT NOW. AND I THINK AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THERE WILL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN DO SOME NAMING AFTER THE TEMPLE AND FAMILY. KURT SHOWED YOU SOME OF SOME PICTURES OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAZA. WE COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER THAT UP AS A NAMING NAMING ITEM. WE COULD HAVE THE TEMPLE DOWNTOWN PLAZA OR TEMPLE PLAZA, WHATEVER, OR IT COULD BE ONE OF THE OTHER PARKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD NOW THAT'S SLOWING DOWN.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER 20 PARKS IN THIS TOWN.
I DON'T THINK WE WE POTENTIALLY COULD WE DON'T HAVE THAT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH LAND OR THAT THAT'S MUCH ROOM. WE'RE SMALL. WE'RE SMALL TOWN. SO I KNOW THAT'S PART OF COUNCIL'S CONCERN WITH ME. SO LET'S JUST SEE. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH THEM AND WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. BUT I THINK I THINK THEY WANT TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA. HOW DO WE DO THAT? KURT AND I HAVE SOMETHING. WE WILL GET OUT TO YOU. MAYBE A LITTLE MORE FORMAL.
MAYBE THAT'LL BE SOMETHING I'LL GIVE YOU FOR HOMEWORK, TOO. WE'LL GET THAT OUT JUST TO SEE IF YOU HAVE HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW OR IF IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF IT'S A LITTLE MORE SHOTGUN. ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE, WE'VE WHEN WE'VE GOT WHEN WE'VE GOT ANOTHER PARK COMING UP, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW, HEY, THERE'S A PARK COMING UP THAT WE NEED TO GET A NAME ON. AND WE'LL ASK YOU FOR IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS TO MAYBE BE THINKING OF THOSE BEFORE WE COME AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. STAFF WILL COME FORWARD WITH SOME SOME IDEAS. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'VE ALWAYS JUST I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 26 YEARS, AND I'VE ALWAYS I'VE BEEN A LITTLE. AND IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. I'VE BASICALLY BEEN TOLD WE ARE. I ALWAYS GET NERVOUS WHEN WE NAME PARKS AFTER PEOPLE. BLESS YOU.
BLESS YOU. JUST BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW, RIGHT? IF IF SOMEONE'S STILL ALIVE. THEY CAN STILL DO BAD THINGS. IT'S HAPPENED SOMETIMES. IF IT'S SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY PASSED, SOMETHING GETS DREDGED UP LATER ON, I DON'T KNOW. I'VE GOT CARRIE AND KYLE HAVE WORKED, OR CARRIE STILL DOES WORK FOR A PARKS DEPARTMENT. KYLE WAS VERY ACTIVE IN A PARKS DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S FEAR. THAT'S JUST ONE THAT I HAVE. SO I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO KEEP IT MORE GEOGRAPHICAL. IS THERE A CREEK RUNNING THROUGH IT? LET'S NAME IT AFTER THE CREEK. DOE BRANCH PROPERTY. MY RECOMMENDATION EVENTUALLY WILL BE DOE BRANCH PARK, BUT SO IT COULD BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT COULD BE THE STREET. IT COULD BE THE CREEK OR A POND OR A LAKE OR ANY ONE OF THOSE THINGS. BUT IT'S NOT MY IT'S NOT MY JOB TO MAKE THAT NAME. IT'S MY JOB TO GET YOU GUYS THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF WHAT THAT WORKSHOP IS ABOUT. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU DAN. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS I HAVE ONE I WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE ON THE WELL FOR RAYMOND OKAY I
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CAN WELL I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. IT'LL TAKE ME 30S TO GO AND GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE WHERE WE ARE. WE, KURT AND I TOOK WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT.THERE IS A NORTH THERE'S A PERMIT APPLICATION WITH THE NORTH TEXAS GROUNDWATER. OKAY.
THAT BOARD HAS ADDED CHANGED MEMBERS. THEY'VE BECOME A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH. WE PRESENTED OUR PERMIT APPLICATION IN OCTOBER. WAS WAS LAST MONTH AND WE WERE TURNED DOWN. WE GOT THREE YES VOTES AND WE GOT TWO NO VOTES. YOU HAVE TO GET A 5 TO 0 VOTE FOR THIS BOARD. SO WE ARE IN THE RECONSIDERATION PHASE IS WHAT THEY CALL IT. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO TALK TO THEM AGAIN THIS PAST TUESDAY. THEY COULD NOT GET A QUORUM FOR THEIR BOARD.
SO WE WILL BE GOING BACK IN DECEMBER TO ASK THEM TO RECONSIDER OUR PERMIT APPLICATION, HOPING THEY DO. IF THEY DO NOT, THEN WE'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH THE TOWN'S ATTORNEY.
THE TOWN'S ATTORNEY HAS ASKED US TO EXHAUST ALL THE MEASURES THAT WE HAVE BEFORE. WE TRY TO LOOK AT ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE. INVOLVED WITH OUR ATTORNEY. SO WE DID SEE, WHEN KURT AND I WENT TO GO TO THIS MEETING BACK IN SEPTEMBER, PROSPER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD ASKED FOR A PERMIT. THEY WERE TURNED DOWN IN A PRIOR MEETING. THEY CAME WITH THEIR ATTORNEY IN SEPTEMBER TO HAVE IT RECONSIDERED AND THEY GOT IT. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK FOR US. I CAN TELL YOU WHEN WE PRESENTED, THERE WERE SEVEN, EIGHT OTHER PERMITS THAT WERE BEING APPLIED FOR. ALL OF THEM WERE EITHER DENIED OR TABLED BECAUSE THEY EITHER DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION. WE WERE THE ONLY PERSON OR ENTITY I SHOULDN'T SAY PERSON ENTITY.
APPLYING THAT AT LEAST COULD ANSWER ALL THEIR QUESTIONS. AND I FEEL LIKE WE HAD GREAT ANSWERS FOR THEIR QUESTIONS. AND I ALSO FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE ARE DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY AND PROSPER. WE GOT THREE YESES. THE TWO NOS, I DON'T KNOW. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK, ASK THEM TO APPROVE THE PERMIT ONE MORE TIME. DURING THAT PROCESS, IF THEY WILL ALLOW ME TO ASK THE TWO. NO. THE TWO DISSENTERS WHY THEY TURNED US DOWN. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT. SO WHAT ARE WE NOT DOING THAT WE COULD DO? THESE 2ND MAY NEVER SAY YES, SO I DON'T KNOW. SO WE MAY HAVE TO GET AN ATTORNEY INVOLVED. SO DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? WE WANT TO GET THAT THING DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THERE ARE BUDGET IMPLICATIONS FOR THAT PARK. WE WERE FUNDED IN THE IN OUR MOST RECENT BUDGET BECAUSE WE WALKED THROUGH IT. WE SAID, LISTEN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE X NUMBER OF MONTHS TO GET THAT WELL IN THE GROUND. ONCE THAT WELLS IN THE GROUND, WE START PUMPING WATER AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOME SOME BUDGET DOLLAR STUFF AS WELL. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS I WILL KEEP YOU ABREAST OF THE SITUATION SO WE WON'T HAVE THE MEETING. WE CAN STILL SEND AN EMAIL OUT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW OUR MEETING OR HOW OUR REAPPLICATION PROCESS GOES. AND DECEMBER. SO WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF ALL THAT OKAY. THANK YOU DAN. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS. NO. OKAY. LAST IS A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. CAN I GET A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION CARRY. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND FROM VALERIE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR WITH A VISUAL ON AN EYE? HI. ALL RIGHT. SIX ZERO.
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