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          THEN? ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 9TH, 2025 MEETING OF THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS ROLL CALL. FROM LEFT TO RIGHT IS CARRIE CASTRO, NEW BOARD MEMBER. DEB HORAN, VALERIE LITTLE, MYSELF, DANIEL KNOX, BOB BENSON, VALERIE RODRIGUEZ AND KYLE LAFFERTY. AND FOR STAFF, WE HAVE DAN BAKER AND TALIA STEVENSON. ALL RIGHT. SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS IS WE'D LIKE TO GIVE THE TWO 
          [2. Introduce and Welcome New Board Members.]
NEW BOARD MEMBERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES UNTIL A SHORT LITTLE SPIEL ABOUT THEMSELVES. SO, DEB, WHY DON'T WE START WITH YOU? GOOD MORNING. AND WE LIVE IN PLANO. OH, I NEED TO PUT THAT ON. WE LIVED IN PLANO FOR ABOUT 28 YEARS. BOTH OF OUR DAUGHTERS WERE BORN THERE, AND THEY WERE RAISED THERE. AND THEN THEY LEFT HOME AND GOT MARRIED AND HAD THEIR OWN FAMILIES. AND MY HUSBAND AND I DECIDED WE NEEDED TO MOVE A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY FROM HOW CRAZY, CRAZY PLANO IS NOW. AND WE WERE WE WERE PLANO. WE STARTED IN PLANO AND IT WAS LIKE 60,000 RESIDENTS. SO YEAH, WE WERE THERE A LONG TIME. BUT THEN WE CAME HERE AND 2019. SO PRETTY NEW TO PROSPER. I DECIDED TO DO THE CITIZENS ACADEMY LAST THIS PAST YEAR. 
          WELL, THIS YEAR 25 AND REALLY ENJOYED THAT AND THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. MY PROFESSIONAL DEGREE IS IN PARKS AND RECREATION. I HAVE NOT WORKED IN IT IN A REALLY LONG TIME, BUT I'VE WORKED IN WHEN I DID. I WAS WORKING IN MUNICIPAL RECREATION FOR THE CITY OF ORLANDO, TOWN OF ADDISON, CITY OF CARROLLTON, THEN I, THEN I STAYED HOME WITH THE DAUGHTERS, WAS A STAY AT HOME MOM, DID THAT FOR A LONG TIME, AND THEN TRYING TO GO BACK INTO THE RECREATION CAREER AFTER YOU STEPPED OUT FOR SO LONG, VERY HARD. SO I ENDED UP WORKING BEFORE I RETIRED, WHICH WAS IN 2016. I WORKED FOR FINANCIAL PLANNERS. THAT WAS THEIR FRONT END MANAGING PERSON, YOU KNOW, OF THEIR OFFICE. SO A LITTLE BIT OF SAME SKILLS, BUT MY BACKGROUND IS MORE ON THE RECREATION SIDE. I DIDN'T DO AS MUCH WITH THE PARK SIDE OF THINGS, BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WHY I'M INTERESTED IN PARKS AND RECREATION. WELCOME. SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A GOOD BACKGROUND. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP, VALERIE RODRIGUEZ. TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU. YES. HI, I'M VALERIE RODRIGUEZ. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. SO THANK YOU GUYS. I AM A TEACHER AND I TEACH SPECIAL EDUCATION. I I'VE LIVED IN PROSPER SINCE 2013. WE MOVED WE ACTUALLY IT WAS MCKINNEY, BUT IT WAS PROSPER ISD SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO STILL PART OF PROSPER AND WHAT WE KIND OF SUPPORT OVER THERE IN WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE DID MOVE IN CLOSER INTO PROSPER IN 2021. AND I HAVE THREE KIDS, ONE OF WHOM WHO ATTENDS COCKRELL. I HAVE ONE WHO ATTENDS LILIANA AND THE OTHER IS AT REYNOLDS. I'VE BEEN ON THE PROSPER LADIES ASSOCIATION. I'M THE BENEVOLENT CHAIR FOR PROSPER LADIES ASSOCIATION, AND I WAS ALSO ON THE BOND COMMITTEE THIS LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR. AND I'M JUST I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. SO THANK YOU GUYS. WELCOME. THANK YOU 
          [3. Consider and act upon the minutes of the August 14, 2025, Parks and  Recreation Board meeting.]
THANK YOU. OKAY. THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS IS CONSIDER, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 14TH, 2025 PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING. SO HAS ANYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE? OKAY, OKAY. MOTION FROM KYLE. CAN I GET A SECOND SECOND FROM KERRY? ALRIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I WITH A VISUAL AND AN I, I ALL RIGHT. 7 TO 0 APPROVED. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ONLINE OR IN PERSON OKAY. NO COMMENTS OKAY. 
          [5. Town Department reorganization update.]
NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TOWN DEPARTMENT REORGANIZATION UPDATE. AND DAN IS GOING TO START US OFF WITH THAT. ALRIGHT. WELL GOOD EVENING BOARD. LET ME GET US CAUGHT UP HERE ON THE SCREEN OKAY. SO I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO TWO GUESTS HERE THIS EVENING FROM THE TOWN. SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THEM. GOT MARIO CANNIZZARO, OUR TOWN MANAGER, AND CHUCK EWING'S. HE'S THE. 
          EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER. THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR FOR YOU'LL SEE HERE IN A SECOND BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST. WE DID THE TOWN DID A LITTLE REORGANIZING, REORGANIZING WITH DEPARTMENTS AND FOLKS. AND I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT WHY THAT MEANS SHOULD MEAN SOMETHING TO YOU ALL. I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO TO FOR THIS TO MAKE ANY BIG DIFFERENCE OR 
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BIG DEAL TO YOU RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THIS IS SITTING. BUT I'VE ZOOMED IN AND I WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHAT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTS MY DEPARTMENT, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE PARKS AND REC WAS UNDER ROBIN BATTLE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DIRECTOR ROBIN BATTLE, WE HAVE RECENTLY, AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, MOVED OVER UNDER CHUCK. CHUCK IS OVER ENGINEERING, PUBLIC WORKS, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. SO IT'S A IT'S A GOOD FIT. IT IT IT MARRIES UP WHAT WE DO. THE ONE THING WE DID WITH THAT WE DID LOSE WAS SPECIAL EVENTS. SO SPECIAL EVENTS STAYED UNDER ROBIN IN A KIND OF A NEWLY FORMED HYBRID DEPARTMENT CALLED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EXPERIENCES. SO THINGS LIKE DOWNTOWN, ALL THE ACTIVITIES AND THE DESIGN, ALL THE NEW THINGS WE'RE DOING DOWN THERE, COMMUNICATIONS AND NOW SPECIAL EVENTS. SO MARIO CANNIZZARO'S SAID HE'D BE HAPPY TO COME HERE AND AND TALK TO YOU GUYS. IT'S THE FIRST ABOUT IT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. SO IF YOU'LL WELCOME MARIO. OKAY. WELCOME, MARIO. HI. GOOD. GOOD EVENING. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. HI, VALERIE. HOW ARE YOU DOING? AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAID YOU USED TO WORK AT ADDISON. SO ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE IS RON WHITEHEAD. SO I WORKED WITH RON MANY YEARS. SO IT'S GOOD TO GOOD TO HAVE YOU AND PROSPER. 
          SO I'M THE TOWN MANAGER. SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE. BEEN HERE ABOUT 20 MONTHS NOW. SO STARTED IN FEBRUARY OF 2023. AND SO JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT ON ON SOME OF THE MOVES. I DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAIL UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT ME TO, BUT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE, AS I SAID, I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 20 MONTHS. WHEN I CAME HERE, THE ORGANIZATION WAS STRUCTURED THE WAY IT WAS. WE'VE MADE MINIMAL CHANGES TO THE ORGANIZATION. 
          WE'VE WE'VE ADDED A NEW DEPARTMENT, A NEW NEW EMPLOYEES. AS AS FOLKS HAVE LEFT, NEW HR, NEW HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, HIRED A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL VACANCIES THAT WE WERE FILLING. SO REALLY HAVEN'T MADE ANY CHANGES IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE. WE'VE INCREASED OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGETS BY $40 MILLION. WE'VE ADDED 25% ADDITIONAL STAFF, SO WE'RE ADDING 20, 80, 85, 87 ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES IN THAT TWO AND A HALF YEARS. AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WITH THE HYPER GROWTH TYPE ORGANIZATION THAT WE ARE IS SOMETIMES YOU'VE GOT TO SLOW DOWN BEFORE YOU SPEED UP. AND SO AGAIN, AS A CITY MANAGER, AS TOWN MANAGER HAD NOT MADE ANY CHANGES HOLISTICALLY TO THE ORGANIZATION. AND SO REALLY WANTED TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME CHANGES JUST BASED ON THE POSITION THAT I SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN WITHIN PROSPER. SO AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'VE MOVED BOXES AROUND. NO ONE LOST PAY. NO ONE REALLY HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO MOVE OFFICES UNLESS THEY WANT TO OR THEY CAN. BUT HONESTLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE ROOM TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND AT THIS POINT. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE DOING A BOND PROGRAM THAT DON THAT DAN WILL SPEAK TO HERE SHORTLY. BUT BUT QUITE HONESTLY, WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOME THINGS. 
          I THINK ORGANIZATIONALLY, AS I SAID, WE HAVE ADDED QUITE A BIT IN OUR OPERATIONS FROM STAFFING TO EXPENDITURE LEVELS. AND SO MAKING SOME OF THESE MOVES, IN MY OPINION, JUST MADE SENSE TO MOVE THE PARKS AND RECREATION OVER TO CHUCK, FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL HEAR LATER THIS THIS EVENING WITH DAN IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY BUILD A, A, A SERVICE CENTER FOR OUR PARKS AND, AND PUBLIC WORKS FIELD OPERATIONS. SO IT JUST MADE SENSE TO DO SOME OF THAT. WE DO A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY. WE SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON MOWING OUR MEDIANS OR PARKS OUR RIGHT OF WAY. WE GOT PUBLIC WORKS DOING MOWING OUR PARKS, PUBLIC PARKS DOING MOWING. SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF LOOK AT THESE THINGS HOLISTICALLY AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME EFFICIENCIES, ECONOMIES OF SCALE, OR JUST CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THAT WORKLOAD WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIAL EVENTS. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY MOVING SPECIAL EVENTS, AND I'VE WORKED IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, BIG AND SMALL. I'VE WORKED WHERE SPECIAL EVENTS HAS BEEN ITS OWN DEPARTMENT, I'VE WORKED WITH SPECIAL EVENTS, IS IN COMMUNICATIONS, I'VE WORKED IN SPECIAL EVENTS WITH FALLS AND PARKS AND RECREATION. I'VE WORKED IN ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO SPECIAL EVENTS. I WORK IN ADDISON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WE DID SOME BIG EVENTS AND IT HAD ITS OWN STAFF, AND IT WAS A IT WAS A MAJOR COST CENTER, BUT IT ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRAW PEOPLE IN AS PART OF THAT COMMUNITY FABRIC. AND SO AS I SEE US IN OUR DEVELOPMENT PHASE, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF NOT WE, BUT THE COMMUNITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF OF BUILDING TWO HOTELS, ONE JUST SOUTH OF LONGO TOYOTA, ANOTHER ONE IN THE GATES OF PROSPER. WE DON'T HAVE 
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HOTELS IN PROSPER. WE DON'T HAVE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES. WE WILL BE SOON, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. AND SO WE'LL START SEEING SOME OF THAT REVENUE COME IN AND HOPEFULLY START OPERATING OR UTILIZING THOSE, THOSE, THOSE FUNDS TO FROM A TOURISM PERSPECTIVE, I SEE GOING FORWARD IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, WE'VE GOT THE WORLD CUP COMING NEXT, NEXT SUMMER. I KNOW WE HAVE UNIVERSAL STUDIOS OPEN, I BELIEVE, OPENING NEXT SUMMER, TWO YEARS FROM NOW, THE THE PGA CHAMPIONSHIP WILL BE HOSTED AT THE PGA HERE IN FRISCO NEXT SPRING. WE'VE GOT AT LEAST FIVE YEARS AND WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE TOWN OF LITTLE ELM. THEY'RE HOSTING A HALF IRONMAN, WHICH WILL AFFECT US. FRISCO, OF COURSE, LITTLE ELM SALINA, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE PART OF THE ROUTE FOR THEIR BICYCLING FOR THE CYCLING PIECE OF THE IRONMAN. AND SO THEY'RE EXPECTING 3000 PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. AND HALF OF THOSE MAY BE WITHIN THE REGION. THE OTHER HALF IS COMING FROM OUTSIDE. SO I HOPE IT FILLS UP OUR HOTELS. I HOPE THAT AS PART OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUR EVENTS, THE SIGNATURE EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE EVENTS THAT WE DO IN IN THE SUMMER AND THE FALL WHERE WE JUST HAD THIS PAST WEEKEND WITH CELEBRATE PROSPER, THE ONES THAT WILL BE COMING UP HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH THE CHRISTMAS EVENT, PLUS THE LITTLE EVENTS THAT WE DO IN DOWNTOWN. I'M HOPING THAT WE UTILIZE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND WORK WITH OUR FUTURE HOTELIERS AND CREATE SOME EVENT PACKAGES WHERE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO I DON'T BELIEVE I CAN HOPE, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE A TOURIST DESTINATION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE THE BENEFACTORS OF SOME OF THAT SPILLOVER, BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO STAY AT THE OMNI AND GO TO THE PGA CHAMPIONSHIP, OR CAN AFFORD TO OR STAY AT AT THE HOTEL, AT THE UNIVERSAL STUDIOS. SO I BELIEVE WE'LL NATURALLY HAVE SOME OF THAT SPILLOVER. AND SO WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEAN IN SOME OF THOSE ACTIVITIES AND WORK WITH OUR SPECIAL EVENTS AND OFFER SOME HOTEL PACKAGES WITH OUR HOTELIERS TO GIVE THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO PROSPER REGARDLESS, JUST A LITTLE BIT, SOMETHING SPECIAL AND EXTRA WHEN THEY'RE VISITING AND PROSPER, WHETHER IT'S IN DOWNTOWN. AND I THINK WE CAN STILL WORK WITH OUR DOWNTOWN EVENTS AND OUR TOWN DOWN OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND AND RESTAURANTS, ETC. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANTED TO MOVE SPECIAL EVENTS OUT FROM UNDER PARKS. NOTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE WRONG. DAN AND CAITLIN AND HER TEAM HAVE DONE FANTASTIC WORK WITH OUR EVENTS. IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF CONSOLIDATE THAT AND REALLY LOOK AT IT MORE AS A MARKETING ASPECT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S REALLY JUST WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION SIDE. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANTED TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. AND WITH THAT, I MEAN, UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THE OTHER CHANGES, I FIGURED IT WAS JUST REALLY PERTINENT TO PARKS AND RECREATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THOSE RECENT MOVES AND AND GO FROM THERE. ANY QUESTIONS? SO HOW DOES HOW DOES MOVING THEM OUT FROM UNDER PARK HELP WITH MARKETING? THAT'S JUST I'M SORRY YOU SAID THAT MOVING IT OUT FROM UNDER PARKS HELPS WITH MARKETING. SO I JUST HOW DOES IT HELP WITH MARKETING? YES, YES. WELL, WHEN WE HAVE, WE HAVE REALLY TOP COMMUNICATIONS TEAM WITH WITH WITH TODD RICE AND AND WE HAVE A VACANCY BECAUSE WILSON HAYNES LEFT TO GO TO A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION. BUT WE HELD MELCHIZEDEK THAT ALSO DOES SOME OF OUR MARKETING AND OUR GRAPHICS DESIGN. AND SO AGAIN, I JUST SEE THIS AS OUR AGAIN, THIS IS ALL ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GROW. OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO BECOME MORE DIVERSE. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE ON HOW DO WE TAP INTO PROSPER RESIDENTS TO MAKE THEM FEEL WELCOME, TO MAKE THEM BE A PART OF THE FABRIC OF PROSPER. AND SO, AGAIN, WORKING WITH DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE DOWNTOWN IS ONE OF THOSE KEY PLANKS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS SET ASIDE AS, AS ONE OF THEIR KEY PRIORITIES. 
          SO THE DOWNTOWN EFFORTS WITH OUR PLUS COUPLE, WITH OUR COMMUNICATION AND SPECIAL EVENTS, I JUST SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF HELP MARKET PROSPER MORE CERTAINLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. BUT NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF ACTIVITY COMING INTO PROSPER BECAUSE OF THOSE HOTELS, I THINK IT JUST PUTS US, PUTS US ON THE MAP. I MEAN, THIS PAST SATURDAY AND I GO, DAN, CREDIT DAN AND HIS TEAM JUST SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, EARLY SUMMER. BUT BUT THE THE WFAA WHAT IS IT, THE SANTA'S HELPERS I MEAN THEY HAD A PRESENCE IN PROSPER THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE EVER HAD IT. SO I SEE THAT AS PROSPER ON THE MAP, THEY'RE STARTING TO RECOGNIZE OUR GROWTH AND WHAT VALUE WE ADD TO THE REGION. AND SO IF THEY'RE COMING TO PROSPER, TEXAS ON A FALL EVENT TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE HOLIDAYS, I SEE THEM COMING BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. SO I SEE THAT AS A GOOD THING. OKAY. YEAH. NO, THAT MAKES SENSE. YEP. ANYBODY WITH ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARIO? ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. YOU BET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. SO THE THE ONE THING I'M GOING TO ADD TO THAT, 
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AS FAR AS THE SPECIAL EVENTS COMPONENT, WHEN I, WHEN I STARTED WORK HERE BACK IN JANUARY 22ND, I WAS VERY CLEAR WITH MY LEADERSHIP THAT THESE EVENTS AND I'VE DONE THIS IN MY PAST TOO, THEY MIGHT START OUT AS A PARKS AND RECREATION EVENT, BUT THEY BECOME TOWN EVENTS OR CITY EVENTS AS THEY GET BIGGER AND GRANDER. YOU NEED MORE HELP. YOU NEED POLICE, YOU NEED PUBLIC WORKS. YOU HAVE PARK OPERATIONS. THOSE THINGS AREN'T GOING TO CHANGE, AND I'M GOING TO STAY AS INVOLVED AS THEY WANT ME TO ON EVENTS AND HELP WITH PLANNING OR WHATEVER JUST BECAUSE OF MY BACKGROUND. BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE UNDER A A DIFFERENT BOX ON THE, ON THE ORG CHART. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE STILL PULLING FROM THE SAME PEOPLE A LOT OF THE TIMES. AND SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO. MAKE SURE YOU REST ASSURED THAT. 
          THEY'RE STILL LETTING ME BE AS INVOLVED AS I WANT TO BE. SO. OR OR AS MUCH AS I MAY NOT WANT TO BE, I'M STILL GOING TO BE INVOLVED. SO JUST KIDDING. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. NO, NO. 
          WELCOME, CHUCK, BY THE WAY. NICE, NICE NICE TO MEET YOU. I MOVING ON TO NUMBER SIX IS TO 
          [6. Receive a presentation regarding the 2025 Bond Election.]
RECEIVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE 2025 BOND ELECTION. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ALSO YOU, DAN, YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR FILL OF ME TONIGHT. LET ME TAP IN AT SOME POINT BUT WE'LL SEE. NO SHE'S OKAY. SO AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW WE'VE GOT OUR BOND PROGRAM COMING UP ON NOVEMBER 4TH IS THE ACTUAL ELECTION DAY. SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE THERE'S WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION, AS YOU MAY BE APPROACHED FROM FOLKS FROM THE PUBLIC, AS WE'VE BEEN TOLD, AS STAFF AND YOU AS A BOARD, WE REALLY WE NEED TO STAY PRETTY NEUTRAL ON AS AS A TOWN REPRESENTATIVE, WHETHER IT'S STAFF OR BOARD. WE CAN'T CONDONE FOR SOMETHING OR NOT CONDONE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. NOW, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, AS A RESIDENT, YOU CAN TALK TO WHOEVER YOU WANT AND GIVE ME YOUR OPINIONS. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION SO THAT WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU GET ASKED, YOU'VE AT LEAST HEARD IT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH A LITTLE BIT. SO, SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL BACK UP IN TIME HERE A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND WE JUST HAPPEN TO BE BLESSED WITH A PERSON WHO WAS ON THE BOND COMMITTEE. SO BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, 24 TOWN COUNCIL APPOINTED A 13 MEMBER BOND COMMITTEE, TEN RESIDENTS, THREE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES. THEY WERE CHARGED WITH COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A NO TAX RATE INCREASE BOND ELECTION. ALL RIGHT. SO YOUR TAX RATES, ANYBODY WHO'S COMING OUT TO THIS ELECTION, THEIR TAX RATES WILL NOT BE INCREASED. ALRIGHT. 
          INITIALLY THE THOUGHT WAS WE'D BE AT ABOUT $165 MILLION. BOND PROGRAM. IT WAS REVISED TO 192.3. AFTER SOME SOME MASSAGING WITH. THE COMMITTEE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECTS ALIGNED WITH THE TOWN'S STRATEGIC VISION AND THE COMMUNITY VALUES AND NEEDS. AND LASTLY, THAT THE BREAKDOWN WOULD BE ABOUT 48% INFRASTRUCTURE, 52% OTHER PROJECTS, PARK AMENITIES, LIBRARIES, THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE LESS UTILITY. SO THE COMMITTEE THEY MET SEVEN TIMES, HEARD LOTS OF PRESENTATIONS FROM STAFF AND CONSULTANTS. 
          THEY WENT ON SOME FIELD TRIPS. THEY THEY LOOKED TO SEE WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE CURRENTLY, WHAT WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. AND THEY ALSO SAW SOME EXAMPLES AND OTHER COMMUNITIES OF, OF NICE FACILITIES, THINGS THAT MIGHT DO WELL IN IN OUR TOWN. AND THEN THEY WERE ASKED ASKED TO BASICALLY RECEIVE ALL THOSE REQUESTS AND GET THEM DOWN INTO A PRIORITIZED LIST OF AND STAY WITHIN BUDGET AND GET THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AS BEST THEY COULD. THEN ON JULY 25TH, THE COMMITTEE DID MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL BASED ON ALL THESE CRITERIA. AS YOU CAN SEE, HERE'S JUST A LITTLE NICE LITTLE PIE CHART OF THE BREAKDOWN. AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE PIE PIECES. SO JUST EXPLAIN WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON WITH THOSE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS. SO AS YOU SEE THE GRAND TOTALS 100 $192,300,000. AND WE'RE ONE EIGHTH OF THAT. SO 12.5%. PARKS AND REC. THE FIRST ONE PROPOSITION A STREETS. AND IF YOU'VE LIVED HERE LONG ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS STILL. AND SO ABOUT $93 MILLION WILL BE USED JUST LIKE YOU'RE SEEING NOW EVERYWHERE AROUND TOWN TO TO CONTINUE TO BUILD AND REPLACE AND REPAIR OR REPLACE ROADWAYS, EXPAND THEM, GET THEM 
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TO WHERE WE'VE GOT NEW DEVELOPMENT, ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS. SO TRANSPORTATION IS IMPORTANT. PROPOSITION B POLICE. SO WHEN CHUCK DINO ERE OR YOU KNOW, ERE THE POLICE STATION IN HIS CURRENT STATE OPENED 2020. SO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE THEY'VE ESSENTIALLY DOUBLED THEIR STAFFING AT THAT FACILITY. SO THEY NEED SOME MORE ROOM. WE WHEN THE 2020 BOND WAS IN PLACE, WE WERE JUST OVER 30,000 RESIDENTS. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST OVER 46,000 RESIDENTS IN. 
          BY 2030, WE'RE GOING TO BE AT 60,000 RESIDENTS. SO AND AS AS OUR POPULATION INCREASES, SO DO THE THE NEEDS AND DEMANDS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THEY WILL OUT OF ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, THEY WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE TO GROW AS OUR POPULATION DOES. SO THEY'RE GOING TO NEED SOME ROOM, SOME EXPANSION THERE. PROPOSITION C THE LIBRARY. SO $34.2 MILLION TO BUILD A NEW NEW LIBRARY FACILITY. I THINK A LOT OF YOU PROBABLY VISITED OURS. DONE THIS WHEN THIS LIBRARY WAS BUILT AT TOWN HALL. THE IDEA WAS IT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE FOREVER. THIS IS A SPACE THAT COULD BE EXPANDED INTO, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POPULATION GROWING AND POLICE DEPARTMENT GROWING. OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO GROW AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FIND SPOTS FOR THEM. SO IT MAKES SENSE THAT THE LIBRARY, THE CURRENT LOCATION, THE LIBRARY COULD BE EXPANDED FOR OFFICES OR WHATEVER OTHER NEEDS WE WE MIGHT HAVE. SO THE LIBRARY, THE IDEA IS FOR A A NEW LIBRARY FACILITY TO BE PLACED OR LOCATED. WE DON'T HAVE THE LAND FOR IT AT THIS MOMENT, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT IT WOULD BE DOWNTOWN OR VERY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN. WE WANT IT CENTRAL. SINCE WE'RE A ONE LIBRARY TOWN, IT NEEDS TO BE AS CENTRAL AS POSSIBLE, SO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS CAN ACCESS IT AS EASILY, EASILY AS POSSIBLE. ALL RIGHT. THE IMPORTANT ONE, RIGHT. PROPOSITION D, PARKS AND RECREATION, $24 MILLION. WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING TO MONETIZE OUR PARK SYSTEM. AND WE'VE I THINK WE'VE PRESENTED THIS TO YOU ALL IN THE PAST, BUT HOW WE'VE COME UP WITH THE 24 MILLION FUTURE COMMUNITY PARK ACTIVATION. SO WE HAVE TWO BIG CHUNKS OF LAND RIGHT NOW, TWO BIG PARCELS FOR FUTURE COMMUNITY PARKS. WE'VE GOT THE WINDSONG COMMUNITY PARK, AND YOU ALL HAVE SEEN SOME PRESENTATIONS ON THAT, POTENTIALLY WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. AND THEN MOST RECENTLY, WE'VE DONE SOME PRESENTATIONS ON DOE BRANCH, THE DOE BRANCH PROPERTY NOT NAMED PARK YET, WHERE THAT COULD ALSO BE A POSSIBLE FIT FOR SOME OF THESE DOLLARS. WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TRAIL AND BRIDGE CONNECTIONS AS THIS TOWN CONTINUES TO GROW. WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT TO CONNECT SOME DOTS. WE'VE GOT SOME AREAS WITHIN OUR PARKLAND THAT NEED TRAILS, SOME NEED IMPROVED TRAILS AND BRIDGES. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A BIG CHUNK. PLAYGROUNDS. PLAYGROUNDS HAVE ABOUT A 20 YEAR PLUS OR MINUS SHELF LIFE. 
          WE NEED TO GET INTO A ROTATION OF OF PLAYGROUNDS. LUCKILY, A LOT OF OUR STUFF'S PRETTY NEW. 
          BUT THIS BOND PROGRAM IS INTENDED TO BE A88 YEARS. SO IF WE LOOK AT THAT, LET'S JUST SAY IF THIS PROPOSITION PASSES, THEN DEPENDING ON WHEN THESE DOLLARS WOULD FALL, YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT A PLAYGROUND RIGHT NOW, THAT MIGHT BE TEN, 12, 13 YEARS OLD. BY THE TIME WE GET TO ANOTHER BOND PROGRAM, THAT PLAYGROUND ALREADY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED OR MOST LIKELY WILL NEED TO BE. SO THE IDEA IS TO START ROTATING, GETTING KEEPING A CONVEYOR BELT, IF YOU WILL, OF EVERY SO MANY YEARS STARTING TO TO BRING IN SOME NEW NEW EQUIPMENT AS IT'S NEEDED. AND THEN LASTLY ADDING SOME PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS COURTS TO TO OUR PARK SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. 
          SO PRETTY EASY. IT'S PRETTY FLEXIBLE. SO IF WE NEED A LITTLE MORE FOR TRAILS AND BRIDGES, WE CAN SLIDE UP SOME MONEY THERE. THIS IS THIS IS HOW WE BUILT THIS. BUT CERTAINLY THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THOSE NUMBERS. YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. PUBLIC WORKS AND PARK SERVICE CENTER. RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT ALL THE FIELD STAFF IN TOWN ARE SPREAD ALL OVER THE PLACE. PARK OPERATIONS GUYS ARE SPREAD BETWEEN TWO LOCATIONS. OUR PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS ARE RIGHT OVER HERE, A LITTLE NORTHWEST OF DOWNTOWN IN THESE TEMPORARY BUILDINGS. NOT THE GREATEST SITUATION IN THESE THESE STORAGE BUILDINGS. SO THE IDEA IS TO GET THEM A LEGITIMATE SERVICE CENTER WHERE THEY CAN STORE EQUIPMENT. STAFF CAN REPORT, HAVE OFFICES, SHOWERS, LOCKER ROOMS, KIND OF A CENTRAL 
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HUB FOR FIELD OPERATIONS IN TOWN. AND IT'S TIME IT'S NEEDED. AND THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BASICALLY WHERE THE WHERE THEY'RE DOING THAT NOW ON THAT SAME LAND RIGHT HERE ALMOST JUST EAST OF THE THE FIRE STATION. EXCUSE ME. POLICE STATION. PROPOSITION F, DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS. I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE BENCHES ADDED AND THE NEW THE TRAIL THAT'S BEEN PAINTED AND BUILT, THE SIGNAGE, BENCHES, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING DOWNTOWN. 
          WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT DOWNTOWN BECOMING BIGGER AND BETTER AS WE GO. AND SOME OF THAT IS PRESERVATION. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE ON YOUR RIGHT, WELL, I GUESS YOU DON'T HAVE IT OR YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ON YOUR ON THE SCREEN ON THE LOWER RIGHT, THE GIN, THAT BIG SUCKER IN THE FRONT. THAT'S NOT PART OF THE THAT'S PRIVATELY OWNED. BUT THE THREE SILOS IN THE BACK. 
          THEY NEED SOME LOVE. AND SO THE IDEA IS TO TAKE SOME MONEY AND BASICALLY RENOVATE THEM, TURN THEM INTO SOMETHING WE'LL BE PROUD OF. THEY HAVE A LOT OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE TO THIS TOWN. SO SO THAT'S PROBABLY A BIG ITEM ON THERE. BUT IT'S ALSO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE PRESENTED THOSE TO YOU YET. MAYBE NOT. WE'VE GOT SOME ENTRYWAY LANDMARK TYPE SIGNAGE AND AND. JUST NOT TOWERS. BUT I'M BLANKING. BUT ANYWAYS, SOME SOME SOME SOME SOME MARKERS AROUND DOWNTOWN. AND EVEN AS YOU GET AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME IDEAS. LAND ACQUISITION AGAIN NEW PARKING. WE NEED PARKING DOWNTOWN. SO 2.3 MILLION WOULD BE SET ASIDE FOR THAT VOTING LOCATIONS. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE IN TWO COUNTIES. SO YOU'VE GOT THE COLLIN COUNTY, WHICH WOULD BE BASICALLY TOWN HALL, THIS BUILDING. AND THEN THE DENTON COUNTY FOLKS WOULD BE AT FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO ON THE SOUTHWEST PART OF TOWN. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE EARLY VOTING HOURS THERE. BUT ELECTION DAY IS NOVEMBER 4TH, AND YOU CAN VOTE FROM 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. ON THAT DAY. I'D GO EARLY, BUT. AND SOME IMPORTANT DATES IF YOU'RE YOU WANT TO DO A BALLOT BY MAIL. IT'S FRIDAY, OCTOBER 24TH, AND ALL THIS INFORMATION YOU CAN FIND ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE. SO IF YOU NEED ANY MORE. YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BOND PROGRAM? WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING BECAUSE THERE IS BAD INFORMATION, LEAKS OUT, GETS OUT. PEOPLE SAY SOMETHING, IT'S LIKE IT'S THE TELEPHONE GAME. AND THEY EVER DID IT IN YOUR COLLEGE CLASS WHERE, YOU KNOW, I TELL YOU, YOU TELL ONE, IT GOES DOWN. ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY ALTOGETHER. 
          SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT'S GOING OUT THERE IS FACT. SO. ANY QUESTIONS DAN I'VE GOT ONE. 
          YES. WHAT PERCENTAGE DOES THE BOND FUND VERSUS JUST PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOUR FUNDING MECHANISM FOR CIP PROJECTS? SOME OF THE I MEAN I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT THERE, BUT THOSE BOND FUNDS HAVE BEEN USED. WE JUST JUST THIS PAST YEAR, RAYMOND COMMUNITY PARK HAS A SIGNIFICANT BOND. YOU KNOW, IT WAS 12 AND A WAS A LITTLE MORE CONSTRUCTION WAS 12.5 MILLION OUT OF BOND FUNDS TO GET THAT PARK GOING. LOTS OF LAKEWOOD HAD A BOND COMPONENT. BUT GOOD POINT. SO WHEN WE AND YOU'LL SEE SOMETHING IN HERE IN A MINUTE FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING TO TOWN. AND A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE A PIECE. 
          SO IF THE DEVELOPER COMES IN AND THEY THEY HAVE TO PAY PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES, ESSENTIALLY SOMETIMES IT'S A LAND DONATION, BUT THERE'S ALSO FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE NUMBER OF HOMES, NUMBER OF RESIDENCES. AND SO A LOT OF TIMES WE WILL COUPLE THEIR FUNDS, THEIR LAND WITH SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET A COMMUNITY PARK OR NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK BUILT. AND THAT HELPS EXPEDI THOSE THINGS TOO. SO YEAH, THAT 24 MILLION, THERE COULD BE SOME MONEY SET ASIDE TO TO HELP US DO THAT. AND A LOT OF THAT. ANYBODY WHO'S FAMILIAR WITH THE WINDSONG RANCH, LOT OF THE PARKS THERE AND EVEN STAR TRAIL, A LOT OF THOSE HAD ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH MECHANISMS LIKE THE BOND. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. ALRIGHT. 
          [7. Consider and act upon a Park Improvement Agreement for the Creekside  Development. ]
NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS. AS THE SCREEN SAYS, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A PARK IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE CREEKSIDE DEVELOPMENT. AND AGAIN DAN YOU'RE UP. ALL RIGHT. SO AS WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT A LITTLE BIT NORTH AND WEST OF NORTH SIDE OF TOWN, A LITTLE WEST OF THE TOLLWAY. THE CREEKSIDE DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE FOR THE FUTURE SITE. THIS IS WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. SO I'VE GOT DEVELOPER 
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REPRESENTATIVE HERE TONIGHT. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU ALL TO DO IS TO, TO EITHER APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE THIS. AND THEN WE WILL TAKE IT TO COUNCIL ON THE 28TH OF OCTOBER WITH EITHER YOUR THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE HISTORICALLY. A LOT OF A LOT OF OUR PARKS HAVE BEEN BUILT THIS WAY. AS I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WE HAVE REALLY TWO AS FAR AS PARK DEVELOPMENT GOES, WE HAVE TWO MECHANISMS FOR, FOR, FOR FOR REVENUE THAT WE CAN USE TO BUILD PARKS, PARK IMPROVEMENT FEES IN THIS CASE. AND THIS NUMBER IS ACTUALLY GOING TO CHANGE. IT WILL CHANGE FOR ANY NEW NEWER DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN. BUT BUT CREEKSIDE IS IN GOT IN UNDER THE THE WIRE. SO CREEKSIDE HAS 221. LOTS OF THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP INTO HOMES. SO OUR PARK IMPROVEMENT FEES ARE CALCULATED AT $1,500 TIMES THAT MANY HOMES, FOR A TOTAL OF $331,500. THERE'S ALSO A PARKLAND DEDICATION COMPONENT TO IT AND THAT IS DEVELOPED, THAT'S CALCULATED. IT'S ONE ACRE PER 35 UNITS. THAT EQUATES TO A LITTLE OVER SIX ACRES. THE DEVELOPERS ACTUALLY WANTING TO DONATE 7.34 ACRES. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET A LITTLE MORE PARKLAND OUT OF THAT DEAL. DEVELOPER WILL CONSTRUCT HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF EAST SIDE OF LEGACY DRIVE THAT MEETS WITH OUR MASTER PLAN, THE TOWN'S TRAIL MASTER PLAN. AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON SOME CREDITS THAT GO BACK AND FORTH BASED ON THEY HAVE THE OPTION ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THEIR TRAIL NETWORK. TO UPSIZE. WE REQUIRE A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK TRAIL. WE WILL GIVE SOME CREDIT BACK IF THEY WANT TO UPSIZE THAT TO A TEN FOOT, 8 OR 10 FOOT. SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL TAKE TAKE US UP ON THAT AND WE LOVE IT. BECAUSE IF ANY OF YOU JOG, BIKE, WALK, SIX FOOT'S NOT ALWAYS COMFORTABLE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY COMING COMING AT YOU. SO TEN FOOT IS REALLY THE PREFERRED THAT. AND AND CLINT AND HIS DEVELOPER HAVE AGREED TO DO THAT. SO LET'S SEE HERE. SO THIS JUST KIND OF SPELLS OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THESE FUNDS. AND THIS IS THIS IS IMPORTANT. 
          THIS IS WHERE YOU GUYS NEED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. SO BASICALLY THE AMOUNT OF THE PARK FEES MINUS THE CREDIT OF THE UPSIZING OF THE TRAIL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, SHOULD ESCROW FUNDS RIGHT AROUND $280,000. OKAY. WE WORK TOGETHER SO THEY'LL THEY'LL COME TO US WITH BASICALLY PARK DESIGN AND WE'LL APPROVE IT. SO WE DON'T JUST GO GO AHEAD AND BUILD WHATEVER YOU WANT TO BUILD. WE IT'S GOTTA IT'S GOTTA FIT THE TOWN STANDARDS. AND IT'S GOT TO LOOK LIKE A TOWN PARK. YOU DON'T WANT JUST ANYTHING. SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH ALL THE MATH ON THAT, OUR PIECE OF THE PUZZLE WOULD BE ABOUT $540,000. SO. WE CAN USE PARK FEES, OTHER PARK FEES, LIKE WHAT WE HAVE HERE, BOND FEE, BOND FUNDS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO FOR A SEVEN ACRE PARK NOW, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A HEAVILY AMENITIZED PARK AT THIS TIME. THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD USE SOME OF THAT $24 MILLION IN THE FUTURE TO COME IN AND ADD PLAYGROUNDS AND BACKSTOPS AND LIGHTS AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, BUT ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD WE WOULD PARKS DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO BUILD THIS PARK IN THEIR IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE. YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR FOR CLINT? SO WHERE DO THE FUNDS COME FROM TO FROM THE TOWN SIDE TO BUILD THEN PUT IT IN HERE. I BELIEVE THESE ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN JUST FROM OTHER PARK FEES THAT WE'VE ACQUIRED IN THE PAST. SO SOME OF IT WILL BE CREDITED BACK BASED ON SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S REQUIRED. THAT'S THAT 280,000. AND THEN OUR CONTRIBUTION USING OTHER FEES THAT WE'VE COLLECTED BEFORE OR BOND WOULD BE TO MAKE UP THE 540,000. SO THEIR LAND AND SOME MONEY, AND THEN WE'RE FOR THE REMAINDER. AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE MORE OF A GREEN SPACE OPEN, MOWED, IRRIGATED, MOWED TRAIL TREES WALK, WALK AROUND AND THEN POSSIBLY LATER WE'D COME BACK AND AND ADD SOME SOME MORE FUN THINGS. DAN, WHO'S THE WHO IS THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY DOING CREEKSIDE? COME ON UP, CLINT. 
          GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CLINT RICHARDSON WITH GREATER TEXAS LAND RESOURCES. WE ARE A DEVELOPER FOR DEVELOPMENT ON THIS TRACK. SO BILL WILL CHECK OWNING AND DEVELOPING THIS LAND AND THERE WILL BE SELLING LOTS TO SHATTUCK. AND I BELIEVE I FORGET THE OTHER BUILDER PERRY. 
          MAYBE I FORGET, BUT LIKE DAN SAID, OUR INTENTION IS TO. WE'D LOVE TO SEE THE PARK FINISHED. 
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THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS OPENING THIS FALL OR OPEN THIS FALL. THE MIDDLE SCHOOL JUST TO THE SOUTH OF HERE IS OPENING NEXT FALL. THIS IS JUST RIGHT IN THE HEART OF WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE LOTS OF LITTLE KIDS. SO, YOU KNOW, OUR INTENTION WAS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FINISH THE WHOLE PARK. WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO BASICALLY DO THE PERIMETER, AND THEN WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO HYDRO MULCH IT AND HOPE FOR THE BEST. SO THAT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE VERY GOOD. 
          YOU CAN'T HAVE A SOCCER COMPLEX OR SOCCER PRACTICE ON THAT AND IT'D BE KIND OF DICEY. SO WHAT WE TALKED WITH DAN IS LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, NOBODY HAS MONEY LAYING AROUND, BUT IF YOU CAN FIND SOME MONEY FOR THIS ONE, WE'D LOVE TO WORK TOGETHER. WE WOULD MANAGE THE CONSTRUCTION AND BEING PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE A LOT MORE KIND OF WAYS OF NEEDLING CONTRACTORS AND GETTING BETTER PRICES. AND WE'VE DONE SOME PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES. WE'LL HOPEFULLY COME IN UNDER THAT, BUT WE'LL WORK BY DAN SAYS. ALL THAT WILL BE, WE'LL SHOW HIM ALL OUR BIDS. 
          WE'LL WORK TOGETHER ON THE SCOPE. THIS IS THE DESIGN. TOWN HAS AUTHORITY TO APPROVE ALL THOSE THINGS. AND THEN WE WOULD FINISH THE PARK. AS DAN SAID, IT WOULD HAVE A TRAIL. WE'D HAVE TREES FULLY SODDED, FULLY IRRIGATED. AND THE INTENT IS BASED ON OUR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE IS TO GET DONE IN THE SUMMER. SO BY THE TIME SCHOOL HAPPENS NEXT FALL WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THEY'LL ACROSS THE STREET, THERE'S GONNA BE A FINISHED GRASSED PARK RIGHT THERE. SO THAT'S OUR HOPE. YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ONCE IT'S FINISHED, WHO WILL MAINTAIN IT? IT'LL BE. WE'RE GOING TO BE DEDICATING THE LAND TO THE TOWN, AND THE PARK WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE TOWN AS WELL. SO IT'LL BE A PUBLIC PARK. IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK SIZE. AND LIKE DAN SAID, IT'S PROBABLY THE INTENT WOULD BE AS MONEY'S AVAILABLE AND AS A PLANS IN PLACE AND AS CITIZEN INPUT. IS THAT A BACKSTOP? IS THAT A PLAYGROUND? IS IT ALL THE ABOVE THAT KIND OF THING. SO AGAIN IT'S THERE'S A LITTLE SLIVER IT IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE SLIVER OF LAND IN BETWEEN US AND THE ROAD FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST. AND ALL THAT TOGETHER IS ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES, WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD PARK SIZE. IT'LL BE WE DEVELOPED THE LAKE PARKS LEGACY AND DEVELOPED THE PRAIRIE PARK THERE. SO WE LOOK AND FEEL VERY SIMILAR TO THAT. IT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE. SO DAN, FOR CLARIFICATION, THE PARK WILL NOT BE COMPLETED. IT WILL JUST HAVE SOD AND TREES. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. SO NO AMENITIES FOR KIDS. PLAYGROUND. NOT. NOT AT THIS TIME. NO. 
          AGAIN, WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT WE MAY HAVE WITH. ANY OTHER FEES AVAILABLE. WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. BUT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY BY COUNCIL TO REALIZE THAT. AND CIP SUBCOMMITTEE RIGHT NOW FOR THE MONEY WE'RE TALKING. YEAH. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE JUST A GREEN GRASSY PARK. I THINK I THINK THAT'S MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO SELL HOMES TO NEW RESIDENTS AND THEIR KIDS. THEY DON'T HAVE A PLAYGROUND UP THERE. THEY'RE SO FAR NORTH. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO PLAY? THERE'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE WITH A PLAYGROUND OR ANYTHING. THAT'S TRUE. AND IT'S IT'S IT'S A NEWER, NEWER RIGHT AREA OF TOWN. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF AMENITIES THERE YET. I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS GOING TO HAVE THERE. SO THERE MAY BE SOME PLAYGROUND AMENITY TYPE THINGS WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. I DON'T KNOW THAT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I THINK REALLY THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET THIS IN PLACE AND THEN ADD TO IT AS WE WE HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE. SO NOW LET ME ALSO SAY THIS IS FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. YES OR NO. COUNCIL IS THE ULTIMATE DECISION MAKER WHICH AGAIN WE'LL TAKE IT TO ON THE 28TH OF THIS MONTH. OUT OF CURIOSITY, HOW MANY OTHER PARKS HAVE WE ENTERED INTO AGREEMENTS THAT WERE NOT FULLY COMPLETED WHENEVER THE DEVELOPER HANDED THEM OVER? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. IT'S IT'S HAPPENED. 
          IT'S I I'D BE LYING IF I, IF I TOLD YOU IF I KNEW ANY THE CERTAIN NUMBER. I CAN FIND THAT OUT. OKAY. AND I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR. I'M NOT. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS A SIDE OF THE PARK INFRASTRUCTURE. UNLESS YOU ALL DECIDED TO NEGOTIATE THAT THEY INSTALL IT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A LITTLE CHEAPER THAT WAY IF THEY COULD DO IT. IS THERE DOES THE TOWN RIGHT NOW THE FUNDING CAPACITY? WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO PUT IN THE PLAYGROUND AND A BACKSTOP RIGHT NOW. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT REALLY HARD YET BECAUSE WE WANT TO WE WANT TO GET THIS DEAL GOING. SO THERE MAY BE THROUGH CAPITAL. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR COUNCIL OR CIP SUBCOMMITTEE OR ANYBODY ELSE. THERE ARE SOME FUNDING MECHANISMS OUT THERE THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN SOONER THAN LATER, BUT PROBABLY ON THE INITIAL SIDE, IT'LL PROBABLY JUST BE GRASS PARK. 
          WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE IF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER BUILDING THE ENTIRE PARK UPON PENDING OUR APPROVAL, 
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OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? ABSOLUTELY. JUST SOMETHING TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE THE LAST TIME A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WENT THROUGH AND I SAT IN COUNCIL, THEY WERE ASKING WHY WE DIDN'T ASK THESE QUESTIONS ON THE SIDEWALK AS YOU WERE THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS. SO I WANT TO MAKE MAKE SURE COUNCIL KNOWS WE ARE ASKING. WE WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE REST OF THE NEW RESIDENTS THAT ARE COMING IN AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALIGNING WITH THEIR PRIORITIES. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THIS. NO, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. IT MIGHT BE A TWO FOLD IF YOU CHOSE IF YOU ALL DECIDED, HEY, THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH, WE AT LEAST WANT TO GET THIS PLACEHOLDER IN PLACE. BUT WE YOU CAN YOU COULD APPROVE IT OR MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR THIS. AND THEN ALSO REQUEST THAT, HEY, PARKS BOARD WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS MOVE A LITTLE MORE QUICKLY THAN, THAN WHAT THIS IS BEING SHOWN AS. 
          BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP HIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD AND I KNOW WHEN THEY GET TO US, THEY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE DEAL TO GO THROUGH. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COMMENTS WERE THERE FOR COUNCIL, THAT THIS COULD BE A PRIORITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE BOARD FEELS. I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY OPINIONS, JUST JUST REAL QUICK TO A LITTLE BACKGROUND. SO PRAIRIE PARK IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. I'VE LIVED THROUGH THAT WHEN WE BUILT IT, DEVELOPED IT. RIGHT NOW IT HAS A COUPLE BACKSTOPS, THE PLAYGROUND FACILITY, AND THEN IT ALSO HAS A PAVILION ON BASKETBALL COURT. SO WHEN WE FIRST DEVELOPED IT, WE HAD 300 LOTS, 1500 PER 150,000. WE SPENT 470,000 OR WHATEVER, JUST ENOUGH TO GET OVER IT. AND AT THAT TIME WE WERE ABLE TO DO, YOU KNOW, INFLATION. BUT BACK THEN WE WERE ABLE TO DO THE WHOLE THING, SOD IT, IRRIGATE IT. WE WERE ABLE ACTUALLY TO DO THE PLAYGROUND FACILITY. SO WE DID THAT. WE WENT BACK LATER WHEN WE ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDED OVER ON THERE. BUT PARKS, LEGACY LAKES AND LEGACY HILLS, LEGACY GREENS LAKES AND WE IDENTIFIED, HEY, WE'VE GOT MORE PARK FEES COMING IN ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT. SO WE WENT BACK AND DID AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN. AND WE WE BUILT THE BASKETBALL COURT AND THE AND THE ARBOR AND ALL THAT SHADE FACILITY, SAME KIND OF MECHANISM WHERE WE BUILT IT. WHEN IT WAS DONE, THE TOWN PAID US BACK KIND OF THING. SO THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE WE DID WHAT WE HAD THE MONEY TO DO, AND IT PROVIDED A REAL SERVICE AT THE TIME, AND THEN WE ADDED TO IT LATER. SO THIS ASK THAT WE DRAFTED UP IS WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUSH OUR LUCK. SO THIS IS THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF MONEY WE ESTIMATE TO GET A FINISHED PRODUCT THAT CAN BE USED. DAY ONE WITH SOCCER PRACTICES AND T-BALL PRACTICES AND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. WE CERTAINLY AREN'T AGAINST WORKING WITH THE TOWN TO EXPAND THE SCOPE IF THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. SO A PLAYGROUND IS A MUST HAVE, AND THESE GUYS CAN SCROUNGE SOME MONEY, SOME NICKELS AND DIMES SOMEWHERE AND SAY, YEAH, WE CAN BUILD IT. HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND THIS WAS JUST THE MINIMUM THAT WOULD WE THINK WOULD TAKE AGAIN, USING ESTIMATES FROM CONSULTANTS TO FINISH IT WITH A IRRIGATED SODDED TRAIL AROUND IT. ENOUGH TREES THAT LOOKS RIGHT. PARK HAPPY TO GO ABOVE THAT IF THAT'S WHAT A TOWN DIRECTIVE IS. SO. OH, AND ALSO, I BELIEVE THE FOR OUR PD, FOR THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE THE AMENITY CENTER A LITTLE BIT TO THE WEST WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTING SOME KIND OF PLAY FACILITY IN IT. SO THE, THE KIDS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFICALLY THAT ARE PART OF THAT HOA WILL HAVE SOME VERSION OF A PLAYGROUND. SO PROBABLY NOT THE SAME SCOPE OF WHAT A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK WOULD HAVE. BUT THERE WILL BE SOME THOSE KIDS. DAN I'M TRACKING WITH KYLE AS WELL. I LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO ATTACH AND I DON'T KNOW THE PROTOCOL TO DO IT, BUT TO DO SOME TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION, I MEAN, THE TOWN, THE TOWN WORKED REALLY WELL. I KNOW OVER IN WHITLEY PLACE WITH THE WHITLEY PLACE PARK, AND THEN EVEN WITH COCKRELL ELEMENTARY, SOME OF THE PLAYGROUND, YOU KNOW, THE PTO GETS INVOLVED. I MEAN, IT ULTIMATELY COMES TO FRUITION PRETTY NICELY. AND AS HOMES ARE BUILT AND THE PEOPLE MOVE IN, THEY YOU KIND OF SEE WHAT AMENITIES WOULD WOULD SERVE BEST. THE DEVELOPERS PUTTING IN SOMETHING. BUT I, I JUST, I THINK OUT OF CAUTION. I MEAN WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, HAVE HAVE SOME TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION VERBIAGE TO GO TO COUNCIL WITH. YOU HIT THE GREEN BUTTON BEFORE I I'M RIGHT THERE. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. SO IF IT'S IF IT'S THE IF IT'S THE BOARD'S DESIRE TO APPROVE THIS WITH WITH THE CAVEAT OR, OR WITH A REQUEST THAT TOWN COUNCIL LOOK FOR EITHER IMMEDIATELY ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT COULD BE PLACED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT OR MAKE IT A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE FUTURE, TO MONETIZE IT AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN WITH ANY AVAILABLE FUNDS. SO WE COULD DO EITHER OR. OKAY, IT JUST DEPENDS HOW YOU ALL. I AGREE WITH KYLE, BUT I 
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THINK TANNER'S MILL WAS ONE THAT WAS WE KIND OF DEVELOPED WITH THE DEVELOPER, AND THEN WE WENT BACK LATER WITH BOND FUNDS AND USED THAT TO BUILD THAT OUT. THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE. YEAH. 
          SO YEAH, THAT THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. SO YEAH, I DON'T THINK ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT'S LET'S JUST SAY WE, WE'RE GOING AS, AS THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT LIES PARK PARK DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IF WE HAVE A FINISHED PIECE OF LAND THAT'S IRRIGATED SODDED TREES, WALKING TRAIL, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO STAY LIKE THAT LONG, I REALLY DON'T. IT'S WE'VE GOT LAND THAT'S NOWHERE CLOSE TO BEING READY TO TO TO GO ANYWHERE. SO AS THOSE FUNDS COME AVAILABLE AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WITH THE, WITH THE BOND PROGRAM AND I'M JUST NOT IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU I CAN, THAT I CAN GUARANTEE THERE'S GOING TO BE FUNDS AVAILABLE. 
          BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT COMMENT, THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, THAT'LL PUT IT ON THE FOREFRONT. AND THEN WE CAN LOOK FOR OTHER MECHANISMS TO, TO, TO POTENTIALLY MONETIZE THAT PARK. 
          I THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD TO TALK TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'S BEING BUILT AND WHAT THEY'RE HAVING ACROSS, IF IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, KIND OF LIKE COCKRELL HAS THAT PARK AND THEN IT HAS A PLAYGROUND ON THAT SIDE AND THOSE STUDENTS USE THAT TOO. SO LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THE PTO GETTING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIANE OR FOR CLINT? SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND US TO BE DOING IS TAKING A VOTE TO APPROVE THE CREEKSIDE DEVELOPMENT PARK AGREEMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR CAN I GET AN EYE WITH? DO WE NEED TO ADD ON TO THAT DAN IN OUR RECOMMEND? IS IT A MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL OR SO. SO YES. AND NOW JUST WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS WE'RE CLEAR. ARE YOU ONLY RECOMMENDING THAT IF COUNCIL IS WILLING TO PUT MORE MONEY TOWARDS IT, OR ARE YOU WILLING TO RECOMMEND IT WITH AN ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION THAT I THINK WE RECOMMEND IT. WE JUST WANT THEM TO. SO I THINK IT'S YOUR SECOND ONE IF I. OKAY. YEAH. SO SO BECAUSE IF THEY HEAR THAT AND THEY GO OH WE DON'T I MEAN RIGHT NOW. YEAH. RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE. YEAH I THINK IT'S BETTER TO GET THE PARK IN AND THEN AND THEN. YES. SO MY, MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND IT AS IT'S PRESENTED. AND THEN WHAT YOU CAN ALSO VERBALIZE THE FACT THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. I'M NOT PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. I'M JUST SAYING IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THIS WAY, WE'RE OKAY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AS IT SHOWS. BUT THE PARKS BOARD WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE. MOVE QUICKLY ON A MONETIZING THE PARK, AND I CAN SHARE THE DEVELOPMENT AND NOT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE WHOLE THING. I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THE THE WORDS WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW, JUST BECAUSE JUST A PLAYGROUND WOULD BE GREAT, YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE WHOLE THING TO THEIR POINT. YOU KNOW, JUST SOMETHING IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING. YEAH. OKAY. SO I. GOOD LUCK. AND AGAIN WE'RE AND WE'RE MAKING WITH ALL THOSE WORDS AND WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. SO WE'RE APPROVING GOING FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION I WANT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION GO FOR APPROVAL OF THE CREEKSIDE DEVELOPMENT PARK AGREEMENT. AS IT IS WRITTEN WITH THE WORDING BEING THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT PUTTING A PARK IN AS EXPEDIENTLY AS FISCALLY POSSIBLE. IS THAT ALL THOSE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE WITH A PHYSICAL MOTION, AND I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. SO WE NEED A MOTION. WE NEED A SECOND AND THEN A. YEAH I'LL SECOND. 
          OKAY. OKAY. WHO MADE BOB MADE THE MOTION. AND THEN KYLE MADE THE SECOND OKAY OKAY. APPROVED. 
          [8. Consider and act upon amendments to the Park and Recreation fees. ]
ALL RIGHT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL ALL RIGHT. NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS. AND CONSIDER AN ACT UPON AMENDMENTS TO THE PARK AND RECREATION FEES. AGAIN DAN BAKER OKAY, SO AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. SO WE'LL BACK UP IN TIME A LITTLE, A LITTLE WAYS BACK EARLIER IN THE YEAR, COUNCIL ASKED STAFF, ALL DEPARTMENTS TO GO BACK, LOOK AT THE FEES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY CHARGING DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT WIDE FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO CHANGE? MOST LIKELY INCREASE, BUT CHANGE AND THEN BRING THAT BACK AS A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL? WE I DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO BRING THAT TO YOU ALL BEFORE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, SO I TOOK IT TO COUNCIL BASED ON SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEY ASKED ME TO TAKE IT BACK TO YOU ALL TO EITHER APPROVE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS OR MAKE 
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ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON THESE FEES. SO LET ME, LET ME JUST LET ME JUST READ THROUGH THIS SLIDE SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE AND LET ME LOOK REAL QUICK. MAYBE THIS IS ONE. DO WE HAVE ANY FEES IN FRONT OF US. NO WE DON'T I DON'T THINK WE DO. SO LET ME I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SKIP AHEAD BECAUSE THIS PROBABLY I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE PUT THIS SLIDE A LITTLE LATER. 
          SO FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES, WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES TONIGHT. 
          CURRENTLY WE WE GET FROM THE DEVELOPER ONE ACRE PER 35. UNITS. AND TO MAKE SURE THIS IS RIGHT. YES. YOU JUST. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO IT IS OKAY. SO WE THE DEVELOPER COMES IN. THEY HAVE X NUMBER OF UNITS. WE CHOP IT UP DIVIDE IT BY 35. THEY OWE US AN ACRE PER 35 UNITS. OR WE CAN TAKE 5% OF THEIR TOTAL ACREAGE. SO LET'S JUST SAY THEY HAVE A 100 ACRE DEVELOPMENT. SO PER THE 5% OF THE TOTAL ACREAGE, THEY WOULD OWE US FIVE ACRES. BUT LET'S SAY THEY WERE ONLY PUTTING 100 HOUSES IN THAT LARGE. IT'S LARGE LOTS WHATEVER. SO THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER THREE ACRES. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE THE BIGGER NUMBER OKAY. SO WE CAN GO EITHER WAY. WE ARE PROPOSING TO COUNCIL. NOW LET ME ALSO SAY WE DID CALL OUR COMPARISON MUNICIPALITIES. WE WE CALL AROUND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE ARE IN BOUNDS. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S WAY OUT OF BOUNDS. THE OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T DOING. SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUMP THAT TO ONE ACRE PER 30 UNITS AND KEEP THE 5%. AND THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE UP THE ACREAGE. WE TYPICALLY GO FOR THE ACREAGE FIRST, BUT IF IT'S GOING TO KILL THE DEAL AND WE FEEL IT'S A GOOD DEAL, THEN WE CAN ALSO GO, OKAY, YOU WOULD OWE US FIVE ACRES. MAYBE YOU ONLY HAVE AN ACRE OR TWO YOU CAN GIVE US. WE CAN GO AND PUT A VALUE ON THE PER ACRE COST, AND THEY CAN WRITE A CHECK FOR THAT TOO. SO BASICALLY THEY'RE BUYING BACK THE LAND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE US IN A SENSE. SO WE'RE PROPOSING THE ONE ACRE PER 30 VERSUS WHAT WHAT IS CURRENT ONE ACRE PER 35. IF YOU ALL FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT OR IF YOU FEEL WE SHOULD GO STRONGER. BUT THAT'S WHAT STAFF HAVE RECOMMENDED. AND WE'LL JUST FINISH THE SLIDE PARK IMPROVEMENT FEES. SO PER AND THIS IS WHERE WE WERE TALKING. YOU SAW IT ON THE CREEKSIDE SLIDE. CURRENTLY WE WERE GETTING $1,500 PER SINGLE FAMILY UNIT, $2,000 PER MULTI-FAMILY. WE'D LIKE TO BUMP THAT TO 2000 SINGLE FAMILY AND 3000 PER MULTI-FAMILY UNIT. NOW AGAIN, THESE ARE THESE ARE THE FUNDS THAT ARE GOING INTO THE FEES THAT ARE GOING INTO A FUND THAT WE CAN USE LATER TO EITHER BUY LAND FOR PARKS, AMENITIES, A PARK LIKE CREEKSIDE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. SO THIS IS REALLY WHERE WE GET A GOOD CHUNK OF OF MONEY TO DO THIS. WE'LL KEEP GOING. PAVILION RESERVATION FEES. SO WE HAVE ONE PAVILION. IT'S THE BIG THE BIG GUY OUT AT FRONTIER PARK. 
          IT'S BEAUTIFUL. STAFF HAVE RECOMMENDED TO ACTUALLY DECREASE THE NON RESIDENT FLAT PRICE OF $500 PER FOUR HOURS. IN THE THOUGHT BEING THAT WE DON'T GET PEOPLE RESERVING THAT PAVILION AT THAT PRICE. NOW OUR COUNCIL AND LEADERSHIP IN THE PAST ARE ARE PRETTY. THEY FEEL PRETTY. WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR PRETTY STRONGLY ABOUT. THEY WANT THESE AMENITIES, THESE FACILITIES TO BE USED BY RESIDENTS. AND THEY'RE THE ONES PAYING THE TAX DOLLARS. AND AND THEY'D LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. I WAS ASKED TO SEE IF WE COULD INCREASE REVENUES. SO STAFF THINKING WAS IF WE DECREASE THAT, WE MIGHT GET MORE PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY COME IN FROM OUTSIDE. IT'S A FACILITY THAT IS NOT BUSTING AT THE SEAMS BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A RESERVATION TO USE IT. IT'S YOU CAN IF THERE'S A RESERVATION, YOU'LL GET BOOTED. BUT OTHERWISE IT'S FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE. UNLESS SOMEBODY CAN COME UP AND SAY, I'M SORRY, I HAVE THIS FACILITY. SO THIS WAS KIND OF ADDITION THROUGH SUBTRACTION, IF YOU WILL. LET'S SEE. AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS WE DO GET A LOT OF FOLKS WHO 
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LET'S JUST SAY YOU LIVE ACROSS THE STREET LIGHT FARMS. SO YOU'RE TECHNICALLY SALINA, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY LIVES IN PROSPER, SO YOU CALL THEM, HEY, WOULD YOU RESERVE THAT PAVILION FOR ME? WE GET THAT ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT. SO THE THOUGHT IS WE'D LIKE TO SEE INSTEAD OF JUST A FLAT $500 FOR FOUR HOURS, DROP IT DOWN TO $100 FOR FOUR HOURS. IF YOU'RE 1 TO 100 PEOPLE, $200 AN HOUR IF YOU'RE 101 TO 200 PEOPLE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE ON THE PAVILION. WE DIDN'T. WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE RESIDENT RATES AT ALL, OR SIGNIFICANTLY LESS BELIEVE. I DON'T THINK I'VE GOT THOSE IN THIS PRESENTATION. I DON'T, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S IT GOES FROM 35 TO 50 ON THOSE TWO. WHEN DID WE PUT THESE RATES IN? I'M SORRY. WHEN WERE THESE RATES PUT IN PLACE? THEY PREDATE ME. SO I'M SORRY. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. I THINK IT'S I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THE RATES. YEAH. IT'S WE WE HAVE NOT ADJUSTED FEES IN THE PARKS, PARKS AND REC SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WHICH IS JANUARY 22ND. SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING ON FOUR YEARS IN WHATEVER TIME BEFORE THAT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE ON OUR RECREATION. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, OUR BALL FIELDS ARE VERY POPULAR. AND WE GET A LOT OF CALLS AND A LOT OF LOT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO RESERVE OUR, OUR SYNTHETIC TURF FIELDS. 
          CURRENTLY, RESIDENTS AND NONRESIDENTS CAN RESERVE THE TURF FIELDS AT FRONTIER FOR $70 AN HOUR. WE'RE RECOMMENDING LEAVE THE RESIDENT RATE AT 70. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN RESIDENT AND NONRESIDENT. WE'RE SAYING LEAVE IT AT 70. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING THAT. TEAMS ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO PAY THAT, BUT INCREASE THE NONRESIDENT FEE TO 125 AN HOUR. OUR GRASS FIELDS SAME. WE'RE AT 35 AN HOUR FOR NONRESIDENTS. 
          I'M SORRY, RESIDENTS 35. NONRESIDENTS 45. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME. LEAVE THE RESIDENTS ALONE AT 35. BUMP THE NONRESIDENT TO 70 AN HOUR. AND THEN OUR TOURNAMENTS. RIGHT NOW WE CHARGE. SO WE'LL GET A CALL. IT'LL BE A FLAG FOOTBALL. THEY WANT TO USE THE TWO FIELDS AT FRONTIER, THE TWO TURF FIELDS. THEY'LL SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT 30 TEAMS COMING IN. WE WANT TO DO WE WANT TO DO A TOURNAMENT. RIGHT NOW WE CHARGE $50 PER TEAM AND THAT GETS THEM UP TO TWO DAYS. AND THEN IF THEY. SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO A FRIDAY SATURDAY TOURNAMENT, IT'S 50 BUCKS PER TEAM. IF THEY WANT TO GO, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO STRETCH INTO SUNDAY. WE'LL BUMP IT ANOTHER 30 BUCKS. SO 80 TOTAL. THERE'S ALSO A $100 DEPOSIT PER FIELD THAT THEY USE. AND WE IF ALL THAT EQUATES TO LESS THAN $1,000 WE BUMP THEM A MINIMUM OF $1,000. ANYTHING OVER THAT WE TAKE THAT A LOT OF THE TOURNAMENT ORGANIZERS WILL CHARGE A GATE FEE. SO IF YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER ARE PLAYING WHATEVER SPORT, YOU HAVE TO BUY A TICKET TO GO TO GET IN. SO STAFF HAVE PROPOSED KEEPING THE CURRENT FEES THE SAME, BUT ASKING FOR 10% OF THE GATE FEE. 
          WE FEEL IT'S 50 SEEMS LIKE A FAIR NUMBER, BUT IF WE WANT TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE, GET THAT EXTRA 10%. AND SO NOW LET ME I SHOULD HAVE MOVED THIS. I APOLOGIZE TO THE FIRST. SO AFTER I PRESENTED ALL THIS, EXACTLY WHAT I PRESENTED TO YOU JUST NOW, WHAT I PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL ON THE 16TH TOWN COUNCIL COMMENTS PREFER FOR PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS SUPPORTIVE OF SUBSTANTIALLY. AND THEY SAID SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER FEES FOR NONRESIDENTS AND THEY DIDN'T COMMENT INDIVIDUALLY ON ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT FOR THE TOURNAMENTS. COUNCILMAN RAY SAID RAISE THE RAISE THE TOURNAMENT TEAM FEES. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 50 FOR THE FIRST TWO, 30 FOR THE FOR THE THIRD DAY, HE SAID. RAISE THOSE FEES. 
          DO NOT TOUCH THE GATE FEE, PRIMARILY BECAUSE HE FEELS AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE RIGHT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY OUT THERE. WE'D HAVE TO TRUST THE ORGANIZERS. SO IT'S A FAIR COMMENT. COUNCILMAN ANDREWS SAID HE AGREES WITH WITH COUNCILMAN RAY RAISE THE FEES, BUT HE ALSO WANTS A PERCENTAGE OF THE GATE FEES. SO. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE REGARDING THIS. SO WHAT I NEED FROM YOU ALL, AND IT'S FINE IF YOU DON'T IF YOU'RE NOT READY, IF YOU WANT TO SOAK THIS IN AND WE CAN WE CAN ALSO BRING THIS BACK. IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AT A FUTURE MEETING. WE CAN DO THAT. OR IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED OR IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH MOST OF WHAT STAFF, BUT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE. WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS THAT RIGHT NOW. OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED SOME MORE TIME TO TO SOAK IT IN? AND FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HERE'S A LIST OF THE 
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CURRENT RATES AND THE PROPOSED RATES AND KIND OF THE METHODOLOGY BEHIND IT JUST TO MAKE SURE LIKE THE NON RESIDENT FEES ARE CONSISTENTLY DEPLOYED. RIGHT. LIKE SO IT'S NOT MARKEDLY MORE FOR PAVILIONS VERSUS FIELD RESERVATIONS BECAUSE I MEAN I THINK FOR SURE YOU NEED TO CHARGE MORE FOR NONRESIDENTS ON ALL OF YOUR THINGS. AT FRISCO WE DO 50% MORE, RIGHT? SO IT'S OUR TIME AND A HALF. SO IF IT'S $35, YOU KNOW, IT'S EVEN FOR PAVILIONS, I THINK IT'S DOUBLE. SO OKAY JUST CONSISTENCY ON THAT AND THEN PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES. 
          THAT'S THAT'S MORE KYLE'S FORTE. BUT I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER CITIES ARE DOING JUST SO WE KNOW WHERE WE BENCHMARK AND WHY WE'RE GOING TO LOWER OUR REQUIREMENT TO ONE ACRE. WAS IT FOR 30 INSTEAD OF 35? WE WERE ACTUALLY WE'RE RAISING IT SO IT INCREASES OKAY. 
          SO THE OLD ONE WE'RE GETTING ONE PER 35. NOW WE'RE GETTING ONE PER 30. GOT IT. SO SO THAT IS AN INCREASE OKAY. PERFECT. DO YOU KNOW WHERE IN THAT DYNAMIC OF ALL THE OTHER TOWNS AROUND US YOU TALKED OR LOOKED AT WHERE WE FIT IN, THAT WE'VE GOT NOTES, I DON'T KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS APPLES TO APPLES. SO SOME TOWNS ARE OR I SHOULD SAY MUNICIPALITIES WILL GET MONEY, DIFFERENT PLACES. SO THERE ARE SOME SIMILARITIES, BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT AREN'T. BUT WE'VE GOT A LIST AND THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT WE CAN TABLE THIS ONE TONIGHT AND THEN MAYBE EVEN GET THIS OUT TO YOU EARLY BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. AND THAT WAY YOU HAVE SOME TIME TO KIND OF READ THROUGH IT, MAKE SOME NOTES, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. I WILL TELL YOU THE COUNCIL DID APPROVE BECAUSE THERE WERE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS PRESENTING THEIR FEES. SO THEY WENT AHEAD AND APPROVED EVERYTHING AT WHAT WAS SUGGESTED. HOWEVER, THEY WANTED US TO COME BACK WITH WITH SOME ADDITIONAL. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HOLD UP THE WHOLE PROCESS, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE READY FOR US TO COME BACK. SO LET ME DO SO. SO, CARRIE, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. LET US GET YOU MAYBE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE CONDENSED AND A LITTLE MORE IN THE SAME PLACE, SHOW YOU SOME OF OUR COMPS AND GET THAT TO YOU, AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT AT A FUTURE MEETING. MAYBE IF WE CAN GET IT OUT FAST ENOUGH, I'LL TRY TO GET IT FOR THE NOVEMBER WORST CASES. WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT. OKAY, SO FOR THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES, DAN, THE ONE THING I'D ASK IF WHEN WE WROTE FRISCO'S SEVEN YEARS AGO, THE COUNCIL MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION THAT WE WOULD NOT. I'M SORRY, I DON'T LIVE THERE ANYMORE. THEY WOULD NOT THE CITY WOULD NOT CAUSE A DEVELOPER TO FUND 100% OF THE CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? I MEAN, PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES ARE NOT AN IMPACT FEE, JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE, BUT THEY ARE A MEASURE OF THAT. THAT COMMUNITY'S IMPACT ON THE PARK INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN A COMMUNITY. SO TECHNICALLY, THEY'RE THE NEW RESIDENTS ARE PUTTING A LOAD ON THE PARK SYSTEM. AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO OFFSET THAT. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IF TOWN COUNCIL HAD ANY IDEA, BECAUSE I JUST DID THE MATH ON THIS BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT YOU JUST DID, AND YOU STILL CAN'T BUILD YOUR PARK AND YOU CAN'T AFFORD A PLAYGROUND. AND SO IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DECISION THAT WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE FEES, BUT WE CANNOT CONSTRUCT THE LAND, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HOW DOES COUNCIL ANTICIPATE HELPING YOU FUND THESE PARKS IN THE FUTURE? IF THESE DEVELOPMENT FEES ARE NOT INTENDED TO TO DO RIGHT NOW, I THINK YOU I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU COULD GET THE SAME AGREEMENT WITH THESE NEW FEES. SO THAT WAS A LOADED QUESTION. 
          BUT I GUESS COMING BACK AND BEING ABLE TO PRESENT TO US A HYPOTHETICAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT WHAT WOULD THE TOWN'S BURDEN BE FOR THE PARK DEVELOPMENT POST LAND DEDICATION? AND WHAT IS COUNCIL SAY? HEY, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. WE THINK THE DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO ABOUT A 5050 ALL IN POST LAND DEDICATION. THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US BECAUSE THIS AGREEMENT COMES FORWARD. IT'S TOUGH TO KNOW WHERE DOES COUNCIL WANT US TO BE? IS IT A GOOD DEAL? SHOULD WE BE ASKING FOR MORE? BUT THAT WAS SOME OF THE EXERCISES WE WENT THROUGH IN FRISCO TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN A DEVELOPER CAME IN, YOU CAN'T RAISE IT TOO HIGH OR YOU SINK A DEAL AND NONE OF THEM COME HERE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND US THAT ARE LIKE THAT ALSO. BUT I JUST WOULD BE CURIOUS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING IF THEY'VE ALREADY VOTED THAT WE CAN GET OTHER THAN IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE MAYOR OR SOMEONE COULD HELP PROVIDE US SOME INSIGHT ON THAT. SURE. SO NO, WE CAN WE CAN DEFINITELY GET SOME MORE INFORMATION. OKAY. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS LET'S GO AHEAD AND TABLE THAT. WE'LL GET YOU SOME BETTER INFORMATION AND AT THE NEXT MEETING, OR MAYBE I THINK WE NEED TO HIT NOVEMBER IF WE CAN BECAUSE DECEMBER IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO. RIGHT. 
          YEAH. RIGHT. SO WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN TO GET THAT TO YOU ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          [9. Consider and act upon an agreement with PBSA to replace grass infields with  synthetic turf infields at Frontier Park. ]
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS CONSIDER AN ACT UPON THE AGREEMENT WITH PBSA TO REPLACE GRASS INFIELDS WITH SYNTHETIC TURF INFIELDS AT FRONTIER PARK. OKAY, SO THIS JUST CAME UP A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. 
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PBSA REACHED OUT TO ME THEIR THEIR LEAGUE PRESIDENT AND SAID, HEY, WE'VE GOT SOME FUNDING. 
          WOULD YOU ALL BE INTERESTED IN POTENTIALLY CONVERTING SOME OF YOUR GRASS AND FIELDS ON YOUR DIAMOND FIELDS? THIS. TO TURF? SO THIS WOULD ESSENTIALLY YOU'D HAVE A ARTIFICIAL TURF INFIELD. 
          AND BASICALLY THE OUTFIELD WOULD STILL BE GRASS, NATURAL GRASS. AND AGAIN, AT NO COST TO TO US, I WAS, OKAY, LET ME DO THIS. SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS FRONTIER PARK. THIS IS WHERE OUR ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELDS ALL ARE. ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELDS EXIST CURRENTLY AND THEY'RE ALL THAT NORTH COMPLEX. YOU'VE GOT THE THREE BASEBALL AND THEN THE TWO. WE CALL THEM MULTI-PURPOSE WITH RECTANGULAR. IF YOU LOOK TO THE, TO THE, TO THE SOUTH OF THAT, THESE WOULD BE MOST LIKELY THE, THE BALL FIELDS THAT THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IN CONVERTING TO ARTIFICIAL TURF. THE REASON THOSE THREE AND NOT THE OTHER TWO, THE OTHER TWO ARE SOFTBALL. SO THEY'RE SKINNED. SO NOT THAT YOU CAN'T DO TURF. AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THE FUTURE. BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING MORE FOR THE GRASS. AND REALLY THE PRIMARY REASON ON THESE IS IT REALLY JUST REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU NEED. 
          AFTER A RAIN OUTFIELDS YOU CAN PLAY IF THERE'S STILL A LITTLE WET. IT'S THAT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. AND FIELDS ARE TOUGH. SO YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE EXAMPLES HERE OF OF KIND OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. WE'RE JUST PAST THE INFIELD. SEEMS UP TO THE NATURAL TURF. 
          PEOPLE DO THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT CRAZY. IT'S NOTHING UNHEARD OF. 
          BUT ESSENTIALLY THEY JUST WANTED TO TAKE OUR TEMPERATURE ON IT. SO I TOLD THEM, LET ME TAKE THE PARKS BOARD. AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE A FUTURE CONVERSATION WITH OUR TOWN COUNCIL. BUT AND IT'S NOTHING THAT YOU NECESSARILY HAVE TO VOTE FOR RIGHT NOW. WELL, I GUESS I GUESS I WOULD LIKE YOU TO, TO, TO VOTE ON IT IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN STAFF PURSUING FURTHER TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO, MOST LIKELY AT FRONTIER, BUT POTENTIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE THE FUNDS TO TO EVEN LOOK AT OTHER PARKS TO, TO DO THIS. SO. AGAIN HERE'S SOME OF THE BENEFITS. ONE. IT'S REALLY NO MONEY OUT OF OUR POCKET. IN FACT, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO SAVE US SOME TIME ON THE MAINTENANCE PBSA WILL BENEFIT BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE LESS RAINOUTS AND WE'RE USING LESS WATER. SO IT DOES CHECK A LOT OF BOXES FOR US. SO WITH THAT, SO WHAT IS THE LONG TERM COSTS FOR THAT? FOR US? WHAT WHAT IS THE AGE THAT THE TURF USUALLY LASTS. THINGS TO THAT NATURE KYLE I WANT TO SAY IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WEAR AND TEAR. RIGHT ON USE. I WANT TO SAY IT'S ANYWHERE FROM PROBABLY SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS TO TEN, I THINK IS WHAT I'VE TRADITIONALLY SEEN. MAYBE DO A LITTLE BETTER. AND THEN THE TOWN HAS TO PAY TO REPLACE THAT. IS THAT POTENTIALLY HAVE FUTURE COSTS? OR IF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T THINK PBSA IS GOING ANYWHERE. THEY MAY BE INTERESTED WILLING PARTNERS AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD EVEN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO SEE IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD CONSIDER FOR FUTURE REPLACEMENT WHEN IT'S NEEDED. SO AS FAR AS THAT GOES, BECAUSE HE'S NOT HERE TO SPEAK, DOES THAT REDUCE LIKE WATER AND SOME MOWING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. ALL THE ABOVE. YEAH. YES. ARE THERE ANY OTHER MAINTENANCE ITEMS WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF THAT I, I'M NOT THINKING OF, LIKE WITH THE CURRENT ONES WE HAVE. YEAH. IT'S THEY'RE NOT ZERO. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK OH IT'S JUST IT'S, IT'S PLASTIC GRASS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. YEAH. I MEAN WE, WE, WE ACTUALLY VACUUM, WE RAKE. WE. SO SO THERE THERE ARE IT'S NOT ZERO MAINTENANCE BUT IT IS LESS MAINTENANCE. AND YOU EVER HAVE TO REPLACE THE RUBBER PELLETS THAT ARE IN THAT OR. YES. SO THERE IS A THEY. SO BASICALLY YOU ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH ONE OF THESE TURF COMPANIES ATHLETIC FIELD COMPANIES. THEY HAVE SOMETHING WE USED TO WHEN WE BUILT PLAYGROUNDS WE CALL IT FALL ATTENUATION. IT'S A IT'S IT LOOKS KIND OF LIKE A BAG OR LIKE A BOWLING BALL. AND FOR PLAYGROUNDS WITH THE SAFETY SURFACING, YOU GO UP TO WHATEVER YOUR HIGHEST FALL HEIGHT COULD BE AND YOU DROP IT AND IT MEASURES THE FORCE ON THAT, THAT BALL. THEY DO A SIMILAR THING WITH ATHLETIC FIELDS, SO THEY WANT IT TO BE JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF CUSHION. SO YEAH, THEY WE WE AND WE DO THAT I DON'T KNOW I BET YOU IT'S ANNUALLY WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME ADDED. WE CAN CERTAINLY GET MATT TO TO GET YOU BETTER INFORMATION ON THAT. MATT IS A PROPONENT OF THIS AS WELL. OKAY. SO. YEAH I, I LOVE IT AND I KNOW MATT IS A 
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PROPONENT OF IT. I AND AND AND MORE THAN JUST THE OBVIOUS IT IT IT FREES MATT AND HIS STAFF UP TO FOCUS ON AREAS THAT DO NEED CARE, THAT CAN FALL BEHIND AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEARS. 
          I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HAS A TAGLINE WITH THIS, BUT TO DO AN EVERGREEN AGREEMENT AS TO WHERE IT'S TIED TO THE LIFE OF THE TURF AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PBSA, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT EVERGREEN I IT'S ALMOST FUNNY, RIGHT? IT'S TURF. EVERGREEN. I MEAN, EVERGREEN IN THE SENSE THAT IT THE CONTRACT. YES, YES. BUT PBSA HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER OF OURS. I MEAN THEY REALLY HAVE THEY HAVE. AND BE HAPPY TO GET YOU GUYS OUT THERE AND LOOK WHAT THEY JUST DID ON THE FIELDS. SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT THE NORTHERN TURF FIELDS. THEY CAME IN BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE BURSTING AT THE SEAMS. AND YOU GOT YOU THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE HAVE HEARD THE PRESENTATIONS. THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR MORE PLACES TO PRACTICE. THEY SPENT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL NUMBER WAS, BUT THEY THEY COVERED EVERY DIME OF IT CAME IN AND THEY PUT IN THESE BEAUTIFUL BATTING CAGES AND WARM UP AREAS AT THAT NORTHERN COMPLEX. AND IT'S ALLOWED THEM ADDITIONAL PRACTICE SPACE BECAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A STATION. THAT'S A PLACE THEY CAN ROTATE THROUGH. 
          BUT THEY LOOK, HAD I HAD ANY DOUBTS, I WOULD NOT HAVE EVEN BROUGHT THAT TO YOU THE FIRST TIME. THEY THEY EXCEEDED MY EXPECTATIONS. I'VE SEEN SOME NICE BALL FIELDS. WHAT THEY ADDED RECENTLY IN THE PAST YEAR IS PHENOMENAL. IT'S PHENOMENAL. SO THEY'LL DO GOOD WORK. IT'S IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM TOO. AND AGAIN THIS IS REALLY JUST I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAILS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS. IT'S JUST BASICALLY, HEY WOULD YOU GUYS BE INTERESTED. AND SO WE CAN GO FROM THERE AND MAYBE START WORKING THE DEALS AND OBVIOUSLY COME BACK TO YOU BEFORE ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SOLIDIFIED. BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO EVEN GO THERE. IF IF YOU ALL WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT THERE, BUT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DAN? I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT TO A VOTE TO PROCEED WITH. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE AGREEMENT WITH THE PBSA ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT, ENTERING ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH PBSA TO REPLACE THE GRASS INFIELDS WITH SYNTHETIC TURF AT FRONTIER PARK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR IN CONTINUING THAT WITH THE SIGNAL WITH AN EYE. AYE. AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. NUMBER TEN. OH, WE. OH, YEAH. CAN I GET A MOTION? SORRY. GOOD. GOOD CALL. MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. BOB. MOTION'S ANY SECOND. KERRY. KERRY. SECONDS. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT. TALIA. SORRY. I 
          [10. Consider and act upon the use of sod in lieu of hydromulch in the Raymond  Park common areas.]
GET EXCITED WHEN PEOPLE SAY YES. SO. YES. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER TEN, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE USE OF SOD IN LIEU OF HYDRO MULCH AT RAYMOND PARK. COMMON AREAS. OKAY, SO AND I KNOW WE'VE COME TO YOU QUITE OFTEN FOR. ADDITIONAL CHANGE ORDERS AT RAYMOND COMMUNITY PARK. WE REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON THE, THE THE FINAL APPROACH HERE. SO LET ME LET ME GO BACK A LITTLE IN TIME. INITIALLY THE THE LET ME SHOW YOU THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL. OKAY. HERE'S A HERE'S JUST KIND OF A RENDERING OF WHAT THE PARK WILL LOOK LIKE IF YOU SEE THE, THE DARK GREEN. 
          AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO NOT THE NOT THE FOUR BASEBALL FIELDS THAT ARE AT THE TOP. BUT IF YOU LOOK ALONG THE RIGHT EDGE, TOP RIGHT EDGE, YOU'LL SEE THE THE RECTANGLES, THE DARK RECTANGLES. THOSE ARE WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. OR WE'RE CALLING THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS, PROBABLY SOCCER, FLAG FOOTBALL, LACROSSE COULD BE ANY OF THOSE THINGS. BUT INITIALLY ALL THOSE AREAS WERE GOING TO BE SEATED OKAY. SO. WE WERE ABLE TO FIND ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO GO AHEAD AND SOD THOSE RECTANGLES WITH THE THOUGHT BEING GET THE SOD DOWN. ONE. 
          HOLD THIS, HOLD THE SOIL BECAUSE WE'RE TOO LATE IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW TO REALLY ESTABLISH THE TURF, BUT WE CAN STILL GET SIDE DOWN. IT WILL STAY DORMANT, IT'LL DO FINE. 
          AND THEN WE GET AS SOON AS IT STARTS WARMING UP IN THE SPRING, IT STARTS THE PROCESS OF STARTING TO TAKE ROOT AND GET US GOING FOR NEXT YEAR TO GET KIDS ON THE FIELDS. SO THE THOUGHT WAS, OKAY, WE GOT ALL THE APPROVAL. YOU ALL APPROVED THE SOD FOR THOSE FIELDS AND THEN COUNCIL LIKE LIKEWISE APPROVED THAT. WE WENT BACK TO CIP SUBCOMMITTEE. THEY SAID, WELL, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THE AREAS KIND OF IN BETWEEN? WE CALL THEM THE COMMON AREAS. WON'T THAT BE KIND OF HARD TO GET THAT ESTABLISHED IN THE SPRING? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT TO 
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GET SOMETHING DOWN ON, ON THE SOIL. YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE SOIL BARE THROUGH THE WINTER MONTHS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET EROSION. IT'S GOING TO RAIN. IT'S GOING TO WHO KNOWS? YOU KNOW, WHEN RAIN, ALL THOSE THINGS. SO WE'VE GOT TO COVER IT. SO IT'S TOO LATE REALLY IN THE YEAR TO ESTABLISH BERMUDA. SO WE'D HAVE TO COME IN WITH RYE, WHICH IS A WINTER GRASS. 
          WE CAN GROW WINTER GRASS, BUT THEN COME BACK IN THE SPRING, KILL IT OUT BECAUSE RYE WON'T STAY THROUGH THE HEAT. RIGHT. AND IT'S KIND OF A CLUMP GRASS. SO REALLY THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IS YOU COME IN, YOU ROUND IT UP, YOU PUT THE CHEMICAL DOWN, YOU KILL IT, AND THEN COME BACK ON TOP WITH THE BERMUDA, WHICH WOULD BE THE PERMANENT GRASS, THE ISSUE BEING THE SEED TAKES A LOT MORE WATER THAN, THAN ESTABLISHED TURF. SO YOU IMAGINE NOW WE'VE GOT KIDS COMING OUT IN MAY, JUNE, COME OUT AND PLAY SOCCER. AND THEY'RE WALKING THROUGH MUDDY SEEDED MESSES. THE SEED WILL NEVER DO WELL. IT'LL BE A MESS. SO WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN COEXIST LIKE THAT. SO THE CIP SUBCOMMITTEE ASKED US TO COME BACK AND GET A PRICE JUST TO START EVERYTHING. SO IT ALL GOES DOWN IN ONE FELL SWOOP. SO WE DID THAT AND WE HAD TAKEN IT TO COUNCIL. LET ME AND MAYBE I'LL JUST GO THROUGH MY MY PRESENTATION INSTEAD OF ME JUMPING AROUND. SO BACK IN JUNE YOU GUYS APPROVED. HE GAVE US A THUMBS UP FOR THE SOD COST $276,000. WE HAD THE MONEY. WE COULD DO IT. CIP SUBCOMMITTEE, AS I SAID BACK IN MAY, SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'D REALLY LIKE TO TO SEE SOD ALL ALL AROUND. SO WE WENT BACK TO DO THAT. IT'S AN ADDITIONAL $353,000. NOW, THAT'S ALSO INCLUDING THE COST OF THE RYE SEED GOING DOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET SOMETHING DOWN. EXCUSE ME. NO, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WITH THE SOD. SO I TALKED ABOUT IF WE USE THE MULCH, THE SEEDED AREAS WOULD BE WET FOR MONTHS, PROBABLY KEEPING US FROM BEING ABLE TO USE THE FIELDS LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER UNTIL THEN. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE RYE GRASS. SO WE PRESENTED THIS TO COUNCIL. THEY REALLY WANTED TO COME TO YOU ALL FIRST BEFORE WE TOOK IT TO THEM. SO SO BASICALLY WE WILL BE ASKING COUNCIL TO APPROVE ANOTHER $353,000 TO PUT ALL THE SOD DOWN. STAFF FEEL IT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. FOR THE REASONS I ALREADY TOLD YOU, WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE THAT PARK EARLY NEXT YEAR A LOT MORE QUICKLY THAN IF WE DID THE COMBO SOD AND SEED. SO. SO YOU ADD THAT TO THE 276 YOU ALL APPROVED BACK. I THINK IT SAID MAY, AND THEN THE 620 OR EXCUSE ME, THE ADDITIONAL 353. THAT PUTS US AT JUST OVER 629,000 FOR THE SOD. SO IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT WE FEEL IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND WANTED TO GET. IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR YOU FEEL DIFFERENTLY, LET ME KNOW. IF YOU WERE TO NOT DO THE SOD AND DO THE HYDRO, WHAT DOES THAT PUSH THE PARK BACK? I WOULD SAY YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING. IT'D BE INTO THE SUMMER HONESTLY BEFORE AND PROBABLY NOT HAVE AS GOOD A PRODUCT. JUST AFTER ALL, SEED TAKES A WHILE AND YOU KNOW SEED WILL YOU CAN YOU CAN SEED AREAS AND IT'LL EVENTUALLY COME IN PRETTY THICK BUT NOT AN AREA THAT'S GOING TO HAVE LITTLE 4 OR 5, SIX, EIGHT, NINE, TEN, 11, 12 YEAR OLDS RUNNING THROUGH THERE, WALKING THROUGH ALL THE TIME. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY MOST LIKELY HAVE TO CLOSE THAT AREA DOWN UNTIL THE SUMMER, UNTIL WE GET THE SEED ESTABLISHED. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE PICTURE AND TELL ME AGAIN, YOU SAID THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER WITH THE THE DARK, SO I'M SORRY. SO ALONG SO THAT'S COURT ROAD ON THE. YEP. ALONG THE TOP RIGHT CORNER YOU CAN SEE THE TWO DARK GREEN RECTANGLES. YEP. AND THEN COME DOWN TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE WHICH WOULD BE THE SOUTHWEST PART OF THE PARK. BOTH THOSE ARE IT WOULD BE ALL THOSE AREAS. YES, SIR. SO DAN, I THINK THE DARK AREAS, THE RECTANGLES ARE NOT INCLUDED IN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. CORRECT. THEY ARE. SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. SO ALL THE RECTANGLES TALKING ABOUT THAT. YES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMON AREAS. YES. AND. I JUST I JUST AS I'M GOING. HELP ME WRAP MY MIND AROUND SPENDING $650,000 OF A COMMUNITY'S MONEY. RIGHT. I JUST THAT'S ALL. SO IT WOULD BE 
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IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 350. SO WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED 276 FOR THE ACTUAL PLAYING SURFACES. 
          SO YES, IT'S A GRAND TOTAL WOULD BE THAT HONESTLY IT'S IT'S GOING TO GET THE PARK OPEN IN TOTALITY FASTER. SO FOR THE EXTRA $350,000, YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BE OPEN LATE SPRING. 
          NOW WE MAY ONLY BE TALKING 2 OR 3 MONTHS DIFFERENCE. YEAH, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MUCH THICKER AREA AROUND THOSE PLAYING FIELDS. IT'S GOING TO HANDLE FOOT TRAFFIC A LOT BETTER. WE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH SEED AT LAKEWOOD, JUST WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD DELUGE. THE SEED WILL WALK EVEN WITH THE THE TACKLE, FIRE AND ALL THAT. YOU GET ENOUGH RAIN, IT'LL PUSH IF YOU DON'T KEEP ENOUGH WATER ON IT. AND IT CAN BE. IT CAN BE TRICKY WIND AND HEAT. THE HEAT'S NEEDED FOR THE SEED TO TO GERMINATE AND GROW, BUT FOR A GOOD SEEDING PROGRAM, YOU'RE PROBABLY WATERING THREE, 4 OR 5 TIMES A DAY. YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT SEED WET. IF THAT SEED DRIES OUT, IT'S GONE. SO IT'S IT'S A LOT OF WORK. SO IT'S IT'S A LITTLE RISKIER. IT'S PRETTY MUCH A GUARANTEE. YOU KEEP THE SOD WET. THE SOD IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. 
          SO MAYBE MAYBE YOU COULD CALL PBSA. SORRY. OKAY. SO FOR 350,000 THE PARK OPENS UP THREE MONTHS IN ADVANCE. ROUGHLY. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE PARKS BUSINESS BECAUSE, I MEAN, I JUST LIKE I JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND THAT'S JUST HOW I AM SURE IF YOU ASK MY WIFE, I'M STILL RUBBING THE SAME TWO STINKING NICKELS TOGETHER THAT I DID 30 YEARS AGO. WELL, AND THIS IS THIS JUST THE AMOUNT OF MONEY? JUST IT IT THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE PARK. AND. YEAH, JUST SO THAT YOU ALL KNOW THE MONEY IS THAT WE'VE ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR. WE HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE. IT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED TO USE. OKAY. SO THAT MONEY HAS BEEN ESSENTIALLY FOUND THROUGH OTHER PROJECT SAVINGS. WE HAVE SOME INTEREST ON, ON OUR BOND FUNDS, SOME PARK FEES ALSO HAVE ALL BEEN KIND OF TARGETED. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT A DIFFERENT OR ANOTHER PROJECT DOWN THE ROAD NECESSARILY. SO THIS IS ALL BEEN FUNDED THROUGH CONTINGENCIES AND SAVINGS FOR THE MOST PART. CAN I JUST ADD THAT I, I LIVE IN LAKEWOOD, THE COMMUNITY. AND SO I'VE BEEN WATCHING ALL THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING OVER IN THAT PARK. AND IT WAS A MUDDY, HOT MESS WHERE THEY DID THE HYDRO MULCH AND THEY HE'S TALKING. HE'S EXACTLY WHAT HE'S TALKING. IT WAS THEN, YOU SEE THEN THEN THESE MUDDY FOOTPRINTS ARE ACROSS THE COURTS AND ALL OVER THE SIDEWALKS AND ON THE PLAYGROUNDS. AND IT'S JUST IT'S A HOT MESS. AND WE'VE COME BACK AND CONTINUALLY HAVE ADDED. WE JUST WENT WITH ANOTHER COUPLE PALLETS ASIDE RECENTLY I SAW THAT. I JUST SAW THAT. SO IT'S COST MORE THAN ANYONE REALLY EVER EXPECTS, BOB. LIKE THAT'S IT'S ALWAYS CRAZY. BUT I, I WILL SAY I, I SUPPORT IT, YOU KNOW I'M JUST BECAUSE AT THIS POINT THE PARK NEEDS TO BE OPEN. 
          HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO GO ON RECORD AND REALLY JUST ASKING A QUESTION AND IT'S NOT DIRECTED AT YOU, BUT DEAN'S CONTRACT, WHEN WERE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE DONE WITH THIS PARK? THIS PROJECT INITIALLY WAS GOING TO BE COMPLETED. IT'S KIND OF IT'S IT'S RIGHT. IT'S KIND OF A THERE'S A LITTLE MORE TO MY ANSWER HERE, RIGHT? YEAH. AND I'VE, I'VE OVERSIMPLIFIED MY QUESTION FOR YOU. YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH. I THINK ORIGINALLY WE WERE TALKING SUMMER OF THIS THIS PAST SUMMER, EARLY MAY. JUNE IS WHAT I BELIEVE WE TOLD AND WHAT WERE REAL QUICK AND THE DELAYS. AND THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO BE WITH BOB. THE CONTRACTORS DELAYS ARE NOW PUTTING A BURDEN ON ON THE RESIDENTS TO FIND $350,000 IF THEY HAD DELIVERED THE PARK ON TIME AND ON SCHEDULE, WHICH I DO RECOGNIZE. THERE'S LOTS OF EXTENUATING FACTORS. WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS PREDICAMENT WHERE IT'S 350, THAT 350 COULD GO TOWARDS A PLAYGROUND IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOESN'T HAVE ONE. AND THAT'S THAT IS MY HANG UP ON THIS, THAT THESE DELAYS HAVE NOW CAUSED US TO HAVE TO DO THIS. HOWEVER, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF MY DEAREST FRIENDS. THE PARK IS NAMED AFTER MY OLD BOSS. THE PARK NEEDS TO OPEN AND BE EXCELLENT TO HONOR HIM CORRECTLY. AND IF THIS IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, I'LL GET BEHIND IT. BUT I DID WANT TO GO ON RECORD AND JUST SAY I'M DISAPPOINTED. THE DELAYS ARE NOW COSTING THE COMMUNITY 350,000. SURE, YOU SHOULD HAVE. IN YOUR FOLDER THERE'S A MEMO AND SO SO LET ME LET ME SPEAK TO THAT JUST REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS AT ANYBODY. SO THE INITIAL, THE INITIAL SCOPE OF 
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THE PARK, I THINK WOULD HAVE BEEN DELIVERED PROBABLY BEFORE, BEFORE MAY OR JUNE. WE'VE HAD OPPORTUNITIES AND KIND OF HOW THIS WAS STRUCTURED, BECAUSE GOING INTO THIS PROJECT AGAIN, I MEAN, THIS THIS ALL PRECEDES ME. BUT I THINK INITIALLY THERE WAS ABOUT 12.5 FOR CONSTRUCTION, ANOTHER 1.2 FOR DESIGN. AND I MAY BE I MAY BE MISSING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY SOMEWHERE. 
          SO BUT I WOULD SAY IT WAS ABOUT 15 MILLION, MAYBE A LITTLE UNDER 15 MILLION TOTAL THIS PARK RIGHT NOW. AND AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T ADDED ANYTHING CRAZY. WE'RE PROBABLY 26, 27 MILLION. 
          SO SOME OF THAT'S INFLATION, SOME OF THAT YOU CAN CHALK UP TO A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER REASONS. 
          SO SO WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO WHEN WE PUT THIS PARK, WHEN WE BID THIS PARK OUT AND WE BROUGHT IN A CMAR WAS TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A LOT OF BID ALTERNATES. AND THE IDEA WAS AS WE MOVE THROUGH, WE PUT SOME CONTINGENCIES IN AS WE MOVE THROUGH AND WE HIT THESE LANDMARKS, WE GO, OKAY, WE BUILT THE PARKING LOTS, DONE. OKAY. WE HAD X DOLLARS IN THERE. WELL, WE CAME IN. I'M JUST MAKING UP NUMBERS. WE CAN FIND OUT. SAY CALL IT $250,000 UNDER BUDGET. SO WE GO BOOM. THAT 250 GETS SCRAPED INTO CONTINGENCY AND WE GO, WHAT'S NEXT ON THE LIST THAT WE CAN NOW BRING UP? NOW IT'S A IT'S A GREAT WAY TO MANAGE YOUR BUDGET. IT'S A HORRIBLE WAY TO MANAGE A TIME FRAME TIMELINE, BECAUSE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE THE NEXT THING ON THE LIST IS GREAT. 
          LET'S GET IT. WELL, IT MIGHT HAVE A THREE MONTH LEAD TO TO ORDER THE EQUIPMENT OR WHATEVER. 
          SO HAD WE GONE IN AND WE KNEW WE HAD $26 MILLION TO BEGIN, EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE GONE IN. 
          THE SEYMOUR WOULD HAVE COME IN. AND SEYMOUR IS OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR, WOULD HAVE COME IN AND GET. ALL RIGHT, HERE'S ALL THE PIECES WE KNOW THAT'S GOT A LEAD TIME. THAT'S GOT A LEAD TIME. THAT'S LEAD TIME. WE GOT ALL THIS STUFF NOW OR AT SOME POINT SO THAT EVERYTHING'S READY AS WE GO. THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE KIND OF GOTTEN TO A POINT AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE, OKAY, NOW WE START THE LEAD TIME. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT IT PROBABLY HASN'T BEEN SUPER FAIR ON THE CONTRACTOR EITHER. I'M AND I'M, I'M THE TOWN. SO I'M GOING TO GO THERE. BUT I'M, I'M NOT READY TO THROW THEM TO THE SHARKS. THEY'RE VERY GOOD VERY VERY VERY GOOD. HE'S GREAT CONTRACTOR. SO IT'S JUST BEEN THE SITUATION WITH THIS PROJECT AND AGAIN UNDERFUNDED TO BEGIN WITH. WE'VE SCRAPED AND CLAWED TO FIND DOLLARS. WE'VE ABOUT ABOUT 11. $4 MILLION STAFF GOT FOR THIS PARK. BETWEEN THE PASO DONATION, HUNDRED AND $50,000 AND A GRANT THAT WAS WRITTEN TO PUT TRAILING. SO THOSE ARE ALL PIECES THAT DO THEY ADD TIME? YES, ABSOLUTELY. THEY ADDED TIME. BUT DO THEY ADD A LOT OF VALUE I WOULD ARGUE, YEAH. I THINK WE GOT A LOT OF BANG FOR THE BUCK. I THINK A YEAR FROM NOW, TWO YEARS FROM NOW, PEOPLE WON'T REMEMBER THAT. THE PARK OPENED UP SIX MONTHS LATE, EIGHT MONTHS LATE. THEY MAY. IT'S FINE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M SO HAPPY THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE THESE THINGS IN PLACE AND THAT WE WERE REALLY ABLE TO OUTFIT THIS PARK THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE. IN DUDLEY'S HONOR, FOR SURE. SO. I'LL HAVE I'LL RIDE THE FENCE ALL DAY LONG, BUT SO SO I AGREE AND DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY ON ON SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. SO YEAH, NO, I AND I OVERSIMPLIFIED IT ON PURPOSE TO GET MY POINT ACROSS. AND YOU KNOW, I OBVIOUSLY KNOW THIS IS WHAT I DO DAY DON'T KNOW. BUT THIS IS WHAT I DO EVERY SINGLE DAY ACROSS THE STATE AND OUT OF THIS STATE. MOST PROJECTS RIGHT NOW ARE DELAYED AND CONSTRUCTION ESCALATION IS CRAZY. SO I KNOW ALL OF THOSE FACTORS. BUT THE ONE THING I JUST THINK HAS TO GO ON RECORD THAT THIS BOARD DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT ANOTHER 350 IS GOING IN BECAUSE WE'RE NOW IN A WINTER MONTH. AND KELLY KELLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN WHEN HE NEEDED A HYDRO MULCH THIS SUMMER AND HAD THAT FORESIGHT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S OTHER FACTORS THAT GO IN. AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE OUT THERE. 
          WE'RE NOT I JUST WANTED TO GO ON. AND I THINK FOR ALL OF US, WE JUST WANT IT TO BE EXCELLENT. 
          AND IT'S JUST AS WE SEERTAGE, IT'S JUST TOUGH TO FORK OUT ANOTHER 350 TO OPEN IT UP WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN OPENED, YOU KNOW. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IT. BUT NO THINK AND YOU ALL DO A GREAT JOB. THIS PARK IS EXCELLENT. THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO LOVE IT. 
          THE RAYMOND FAMILY IS GOING TO BE PROUD. SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK MY COMMENTS ARE TRYING TO BE DISPARAGING IN ANY WAY. JUST WISH THEY HAD SEEN THIS. AND TO COME BACK AGAIN IS JUST A LITTLE. YEAH. NO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. AND AND YOU'RE RIGHT, TIMING IS SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT. IT'S COSTING US MORE MONEY. YEAH, SO I AGREE. BUT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. OKAY. ARE WE DONE WITH COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THIS? IN LIEU OF MULCH AT 
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THE RAYMOND PARK COMMON AREA? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. CAN I GET A SECOND? OKAY, GET A SECOND. I'M SORRY. I'M BAD WITH NAMES. SO, DEB. ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR WITH A VISUAL AND AN I, I. 609 OKAY. 1955521 OKAY. AND LET ME AND IF, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A REVOTE BASED ON WHAT I FAIL TO TO SHARE WITH YOU. SO WHEN WE TAKE THIS BACK TO COUNCIL, WHICH WILL BE NEXT WEEK, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LARGER CHANGE ORDER BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE SOME, WELL, COMPONENTS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INITIALLY WITH, WITH THE THE IRRIGATION. WELL. SO THERE ARE SOME THERE'S SOME DESIGN. WELL TO THE COUNCIL WITHOUT GOING THROUGH ME FIRST OR THAT'S IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SO PROPER. SO YEAH. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT'S A $613,000 CHANGE ORDER WITH 350. AND SOME CHANGE IS BECAUSE OF THE SOD. OKAY. WE STILL GOOD I THINK SO, YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IT WAS 5151. OKAY. I PROMISE TO BE 
          [11. Receive staff updates: Recreation, Park Development, Park Operations, and  Director. ]
VERY QUICK ON THIS. AS YOU CAN TELL, I'M TALLY IS MY MY TRUSTED HELPER HERE. I TOLD THERE WAS THE STAFF STAY HOME. WE HAD TOO MUCH STUFF AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THEIR STUFF. BUT ON A SERIOUS NOTE, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE ABLE TO ATTEND, WE HAD A REALLY GREAT EVENT. EVEN THOUGH THIS. I FELT STRONGLY ABOUT PRESENTING THIS TO YOU TONIGHT. 
          EVEN THOUGH THIS WILL NO LONGER FALL UNDER THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, WE DID PLAN IT AND PUT IT INTO INTO PLACE. SO I DON'T HAVE ATTENDANCE NUMBERS FOR YOU YET. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT. BUT. CAITLIN STONE OUTDID HERSELF. ANGELA LEWIS HELPED HER TREMENDOUSLY. 
          WE HAD A GREAT DAY. IT WAS A LITTLE. IT WAS IT WAS PROBABLY 90 DEGREES. SO IT WAS IT WAS A NICE WARM DAY. WASN'T WASN'T TERRIBLE. WE HAD GREAT MUSIC. WE HAD THE PROSPER JAM OFF. 
          DOES EVERYBODY REMEMBER OUR LOCAL BANDS THAT COMPETED? THEY WERE FANTASTIC. GOT UP THERE, DID THEIR, DID THEIR THING TON OF VENDORS. MARIO HAD MENTIONED IT EARLIER. SO IS ANYBODY FAMILIAR WITH THE WFAA SANTA'S HELPERS TOY DRIVE? I THINK IT'S 56 YEARS THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. SO WE WERE THE KICKOFF FOR THEM. AND ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS VERY, VERY EARLY IN THE GAME, WHEN WE DID THAT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID NOT IMPACT ANY OF OUR LOCAL NON-PROFITS WHO WERE DOING TOY DRIVES. IN FACT, THERE ARE A PIECE OF THIS NOW. 
          BUT THE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, NATURALLY WAS, WHY DON'T YOU GUYS DO IT AT THE CHRISTMAS EVENT? BECAUSE THAT DOES IMPACT SOME OF THEIR THEIR DEADLINES. AND IT'S LATE. SO WE THEY WERE ON BOARD WITH IT. WE IT WAS ABOUT 90 TOYS WE BROUGHT IN SO WE COULD DO A LITTLE BETTER JOB. 
          BUT AT LEAST WE WE KIND OF GOT THAT OFF THE GROUND. I THINK THE TOWN WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. AS MARIO HAD SAID EARLIER, GREAT EXPOSURE FOR THE TOWN. SO REALLY, ALL IN ALL, FANTASTIC DAY AT THE PARK. JOHN METCALF OR FORMER PARKS BOARD MEMBER CAME BACK AND DID THE EMCEEING FOR US ON THE STAGE. ITALIA WAS OUR STAGE MANAGER TO KEEP MAKING SURE JOHN WAS DOING WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. IT'S A REALLY, REALLY GOOD DAY. A TWO YEAR COMMITMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. YES, WE NEED TO. SO LAST THING I HAVE FOR YOU UPCOMING CALENDAR. WE'VE GOT THE MAYOR'S LUNCHEON, WHICH IS NEXT WEEK, 11:00 THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH ONE OF OUR OUR ACTIVE ADULT PROGRAMS SEEMS TO BE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP. BUT YOU ALL ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME OUT. 
          AND WE BASICALLY CATER LUNCH, AND THE MAYOR WILL GET UP THERE AND KIND OF GIVE HIS STATE OF THE, THE UNION FOR OUR FOR OUR SENIORS. SO IT'S IT'S A REALLY IT'S A GOOD IT'S A GOOD AFTERNOON. OKAY. FOR OUR TWO OUR TWO NEW MEMBERS OCTOBER 22ND, 6:00. YOU'LL GET SOME MORE INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE, BUT THAT'LL BE YOUR, YOUR YOUR NEW PARK OR YOUR NEW BOARD ORIENTATION. THEY'LL HAVE YOU SIGN THE PAPERWORK. THEY'LL SWEAR YOU IN ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS. SO THERE'S NO CHIPPING INVOLVED. IT'S FINE. IT'S GOOD. SORRY. 
          ARBOR DAY CELEBRATION, NOVEMBER 7TH, WHICH IS A FRIDAY, 5:00 TEN MILL PARK. WE WILL PLANT, I THINK, THREE TREES SPREAD OUT AMONGST THROUGHOUT THE PARK. MATT FURR DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THAT EVENT. SO YOU ALL ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME OUT AND JOIN US. WE'LL LET YOU GET A LITTLE DIRTY AND HE'LL HE'LL TEACH YOU HOW TO PLANT A TREE THE RIGHT WAY. VETERANS DAY HONOR ON NOVEMBER 8TH. THE NEXT DAY, SATURDAY MORNING, FRONTIER PARK, THAT IS ONE OF THE THAT IS ONE OF THE WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE EVENTS WE'RE GOING PARKS AND REC ARE GOING TO KEEP THE TWO MAYOR, THE MAYOR'S BREAKFAST, THE MAYOR'S LUNCH. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE 
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PICKLEBALL. P TOWN THROW DOWN. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO KEEPING THE HONOR RUN, YOU KNOW, SO TREVOR'S BASICALLY RUNNING THOSE EVENTS WITH HIS STAFF. BUT ANYWAYS, VETERANS HONOR DAY, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 90 PEOPLE SIGNED UP RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS WHICH IS GOOD. WE'RE TRENDING GOOD. A LOT OF RUNS, YOU GET PROBABLY HALF OF YOUR YOUR ATTENDEES PROBABLY THE WEEK OF BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S SITTING BACK LOOKING AT THE WEATHER. THEY EITHER DON'T WANT TO RUN WHEN IT'S 30 DEGREES OR IF IT'S RAINING OR WHATEVER. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER THAT DAY. I'M CALLING IT RIGHT NOW. BUT ANYWAY, SO WE HAD ALMOST 400 RUNNERS LAST YEAR. I THINK WE'LL BE EVERYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT, AND WE'RE TRENDING TO ABOUT THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEN OUR NEXT PARKS BOARD MEETING, NOVEMBER 13TH. EXACT SAME TIME. EXACT SAME PLACE. 
          DANIEL HAD MENTIONED IT DECEMBER. HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE NOT MET BECAUSE IT FALLS ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. EVENING THAT THE THAT THE TOWN PUTS TOGETHER. SO I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW NOVEMBER 13TH WILL PROBABLY TAKE DECEMBER OFF UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES ON THOSE DATES, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S ALREADY GONE OUT. SO I THINK THAT'S IT. OH, AND THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE MAYOR'S LUNCHEON, THE FIVE K, AND SO THE. PLUS THE FIVE K SO OR THE HONOR RUN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU DAN. ALL RIGHT. REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. NO NO NO REQUESTS. ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A LET'S SEE MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING THEN BOB AND THEN KERRY CASTRO THE SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. BYE. 
          ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. GUYS, I KNOW WE HAD
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