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          SIR. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. GOOD EVENING. 
          [ 1. Call to Order / Roll Call.]
WELCOME TO THE JULY 15TH, 2025 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. REGULAR MEETING. MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:14 P.M. PLEASE NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT AND IN ATTENDANCE AT THIS MEETING. FOR THOSE MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION, THOSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION MUST COMPLETE THE PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST FORM LOCATED ON THE TOWN WEBSITE OR IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IF YOU'RE ATTENDING IN PERSON, PLEASE SUBMIT THIS FORM TO THE BOARD CHAIR OR STAFF MEMBER PRIOR TO THE MEETING. WHEN CALLED UPON, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. CITIZENS AND OTHER VISITORS ATTENDING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS SHALL OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. ANY PERSON MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION OR WHILE ATTENDING THE MEETING, SHALL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM. IF SO, DIRECTED BY THE COMMISSION OR PRESIDING OFFICER, AND THE PERSON SHALL BE BARRED FROM FURTHER AUDIENCE BEFORE THE COMMISSION DURING THAT SESSION OF THE MEETING. DISRUPTION OF A PUBLIC MEETING COULD CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF SECTION 42.05 OF THE TEXAS PENAL CODE. THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WE'RE ON OUR NEXT ITEM. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. THIS EVENING WE HAVE ITEMS THREE A THROUGH THREE D. DID ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL ANY OF THOSE SAID CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? AND IF NOT DID I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THAT CONSENT AGENDA? MR. CHAIR, IS IT ALL RIGHT IF WE MAKE THE ONE CHANGE OF DATE JUST TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL? MINUTES. THERE WAS A NOTE ABOUT, I THINK, ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS FROM THE LAST MEETING AND THE DATE WAS INCORRECTLY IN THERE AS BEING CONTINUED THE JULY 15TH, 2024 MEETING. THAT SHOULD BE THE JULY 15TH, OBVIOUSLY TODAY 2025 MEETING. YES, SIR. AND SO YEAH, LET'S MAKE THAT NOTE. WE CAUGHT IT IN THE WORK SESSION AND PUT THAT IN THERE AND ADJUST IT FOR THE RECORD. IS THAT SUFFICE? OKAY. DOES THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MOTION? YES. FOR THE RECORD, WAS THAT I THINK THAT WAS IN THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE MINUTES. RIGHT. OKAY. SO I THINK IF WE'RE READY TO HAVE A MOTION, IF WHEN WE MAKE THAT MOTION, PLEASE NOTE THAT. IT WAS RELATIVE TO THE CONTINUING THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON TONIGHT'S REGULAR AGENDA FOUR AND FIVE. THE DATE IN THE MINUTES INDICATED JULY 15TH, 2024 NEEDS TO BE OBVIOUSLY 2025 FOR TONIGHT. OKAY, GOOD. OKAY. SO I THINK I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THAT NOTATION. SO MOVED. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, COMMISSIONER HAMILTON I LIKE THAT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARSON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THREE A THROUGH THREE D, SUBJECT TO THE NOTATION ON THE CHANGE OF DATE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. AND THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. CITIZEN COMMENTS. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ANY TOPIC. HOWEVER, THE COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA. PLEASE COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST FORM AND PRESENT IT TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICE DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE MEETING. 
          I DO NOT HAVE ANY COMMENT REQUEST FORMS AT THIS TIME. SO WITH THAT, LET'S MOVE FORWARD TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING. AND WE'LL GO ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A REQUEST TO REZONE 373.5 ACRES FROM AG USE TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ALLOWING FOR BOTH SINGLE FAMILY AND AGE RESTRICTED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PARVIN ROAD IN 2070 PLUS OR MINUS FEET EAST OF FM 1385. THIS IS CASE ZONE DASH 24. DASH 0022. THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT THE LAST REGULAR MEETING. SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO REMOVE THAT ITEM FROM THE TABLE, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A VOTE TO REMOVE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR FROM THE TABLE. AT THIS TIME I MOVE THAT WE REMOVE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR FROM THE TABLE. WE HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER RAY, DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HAMILTON, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CONTINUING 
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THE PUBLIC HEARING AND REMOVING FROM THE TABLE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. SO WE'RE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THIS. THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING HELD FOR THIS ITEM ON JUNE 17TH, 17TH, 2025. IT WAS TABLED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONTINUED TO TONIGHT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO TABLE THIS ITEM AGAIN TO THE AUGUST 5TH MEETING IN 2025 TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME TO ADJUST THEIR PROPOSAL BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM THE LAST MEETING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT, AKARI. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO AUGUST 5TH, 2025 MEETING. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE, CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL AUGUST 5TH. HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT FROM COMMISSIONER HAMILTON. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING AND CONTINUING THE PUBLIC HEARING? REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AUGUST 5TH, 2025. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU APPROVE. IN THE MOTION 
          [5. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider and act upon a request to amend the Future Land Use Plan from Medium Density Residential to High Density Residential, on 191.7± acres, located on the south side of Parvin Road and 2,070± feet east of FM 1385. (COMP-24-0002)]
CARRIES 7 TO 0. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON 191.7 ACRES. LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PARVIN ROAD AND 2070 PLUS OR MINUS FEET EAST OF FM 1385. THIS IS CASE COMP DASH 24 0002 AND AT THIS TIME THIS WAS TABLED AT THE LAST REGULAR MEETING TO TONIGHT. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO REMOVE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE FROM THE TABLE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? I MOVE THAT WE REMOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE FROM THE TABLE AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER FURY. DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER JACKSON, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF REMOVING ITEM FIVE FROM THE TABLE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU SUPPORT. AND WE HAVE THAT MOTION APPROVED. 7 TO 0. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE COMPANION ITEM TO ITEM FOUR. 
          LIKE ITS COMPANION ITEM, IT WAS ALSO TABLED TO TODAY'S MEETING. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ADDITIONAL TIME TO FINALIZE THE PROPOSAL FOR THE AUGUST 5TH MEETING. SO WE'LL MOVE THIS TO HAVE A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THIS ITEM TILL AUGUST 5TH, 2025. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HAMILTON. A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HAMILTON. 
          SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER JACKSON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO SAY. RAISE YOUR HAND, EVERYBODY. IT'S 
          [6. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider and act upon a request to rezone 18.7± acres from Planned Development-14 (Retail) to Planned Development-Retail on Netherly Survey, Abstract 962, Tract 7, located on the northwest corner of Legacy Drive and First Street. (ZONE-25-0004)]
INTERESTING. ALRIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ON ALONG. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A REQUEST TO REZONE 18.7 ACRES FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 14 RETAIL TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RETAIL ON NORTHERLY SURVEY ABSTRACT 962. TRACK SEVEN. 
          LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LEGACY DRIVE AND FIRST STREET, THIS IS CASE ZONE DASH 20 5-0004. ALL RIGHT, YOU GET TO DO ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS REZONING IS TO CONSTRUCT A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS AND ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ON AN INTERSECTION OF A MAJOR AND MINOR THOROUGHFARE. SO THE BACKGROUND FOR THIS IS THAT THE CURRENT ZONING PLAN, DEVELOPMENT 14, ALLOWS FOR CONVENIENCE STORES WITH GAS PUMPS BY RIGHT. 
          HOWEVER, THE TOWN ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT CONVENIENCE STORES WITH GAS PUMPS HAVE TO BE LOCATED ON THE INTERSECTION OF MAJOR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, PER OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, FIRST STREET IS CONSIDERED CONSIDERED A MINOR THOROUGHFARE, SO THE GAS STATION WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED AT THIS INTERSECTION. THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ALLOW FOR CONVENIENCE STORE ON THE INTERSECTION OF LEGACY DRIVE AND FIRST STREET. SO THIS IS THE AREA WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT'S ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LEGACY. AND FIRST, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS AREA IS RETAIL AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. THIS FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATION RECOMMENDS RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT PROVIDE MERCHANDISE FOR RETAIL SALES, BANKS, NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICES, AND SMALL MEDICAL OFFICES. YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE THAT ARROW IS POINTING TO ON THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY IS WHERE THE LOCATION IS AT, SO THE CURRENT ZONING IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 14. AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE SURROUNDING ZONING. IT IS A BUNCH OF RESIDENTIAL, SPECIFICALLY STAR TRAIL. YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE. SO STAR TRAILS SURROUNDING THIS PD. THE CURRENT DISTRICT REGULATIONS ARE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. THERE WOULD BE SOME CHANGES TO THE SETBACKS BASED ON THIS PD CHANGE. THERE'D BE INCREASED FRONT SETBACK FROM 25FT TO 30FT. THE SIDE SETBACKS WOULD CHANGE TO 15FT AND THEN 30FT IF IT'S A ONE STORY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, 60FT, IF IT'S A TWO STORY ADJACENT TO 
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RESIDENTIAL AND THE REAR SETBACKS WOULD FOLLOW. AND THE OTHER CHANGE TO WOULD BE ON THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH. ON THE CURRENT ZONING. IT'S 90FT UNDER THIS PROPOSED ZONING, IT'D BE 100FT, BUT THE REST OF THE REGULATIONS WOULD STAY THE SAME. SO THERE ARE PERMITTED USES HERE. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IF THIS PROPOSAL WAS APPROVED TONIGHT. 
          THESE ARE THE PERMITTED PERMITTED USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT. I'LL JUST KIND OF SLOWLY SCROLL THROUGH THESE. THESE WOULD BE THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AND NOTE THAT CONVENIENCE STORES WITH GAS PUMPS, RESTAURANT DRIVE AND RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH AND THE PREVIOUS ZONING, THOSE WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT UNDER THIS ZONING, THEY ARE NOW REQUIRED TO HAVE AN SP. AND THEN THESE ARE THE LITANY OF USES THAT WOULD BE ELIMINATED BY THIS REZONING. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE A GREAT AMOUNT OF THESE USES. SO HERE IS THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN. IT SHOWS THE CONFIGURATION OF THIS SITE FOR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR THE BUILDING MATERIALS. SO THE PERMITTED MATERIALS WOULD BE CLAY FIRED BRICK, GRANITE, MARBLE, STONE, STUCCO, THE THREE COAT STUCCO. THAT'S THE CLOSER THE MASONRY. 
          SO THOSE ARE PRIMARILY MASONRY MATERIALS. AND THEN THERE'D BE AN ALLOWANCE FOR NON MASONRY MATERIALS, BUT THERE'D BE A MAXIMUM OF UP TO 20% OF THOSE. AND THEN OTHER MATERIALS AS APPROVED BY THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. AND THIS IS KIND OF RENDERINGS OF WHAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS WOULD LOOK LIKE. FOR LANDSCAPING. THERE'S NOT A TON OF CHANGES. 
          THESE ARE HONESTLY THE EXACT SAME. SO THERE'S 30 FOOT EASEMENT ON LEGACY DRIVE, 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE EASEMENT ON FIRST STREET. FROM COMMERCIAL BUFFERS TO OTHER COMMERCIAL LOTS, THERE'S A BUFFER OF FIVE FEET ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. THERE'S A BUFFER OF 15FT, AND ALL THE PLANTINGS WOULD BE THE SAME. FOR RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY. THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, SO THERE WOULD BE A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL FOR THOSE SITES ADJACENT TO STAR TRAIL. AND HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT KIND OF SHOWS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE AREAS. AND IN CLOSING, SO THIS CASE WAS NOTICED ON FRIDAY, JUNE 4TH. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CITIZEN RESPONSE. THE TOWN STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THESE REASONS. ONE THERE'S ELIMINATION OF MANY UNDESIRABLE USES BY RIGHT THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE EXISTING ZONING. THERE'S SOME USES ALLOWED BY RIGHT THAT WILL NOW BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN SP, AND THEY'RE ALSO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WILL ENSURE THE BUILDING MATERIALS USED AT THIS LOCATION. AND THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE IF THIS IS APPROVED, TONIGHT WILL BE ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 12TH. I WILL NOW TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FOR ME. DOORS OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. I GOT A COUPLE EASY ONES. JUST MORE DEFINITION. WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT SETBACKS FOR HEIGHT OF BUILDING, WE DEFINE IT AS ONE STORY OR TWO STORY IN A PER THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THERE'S A PROPOSED GROCER, ONE STORY, BUT THERE IS NOTHING THAT DEFINES THAT BY HEIGHT. DO WE HAVE THAT DEFINED SOMEWHERE OF COULD THAT BE 40FT TALL? BUT IT'S ONE STORY, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH. TECHNICALLY THE HEIGHT IS NOT THERE'S NOT A HEIGHT STIPULATION THAT SAYS THAT IF IT'S OVER 30FT, IT NOW IS TWO STORIES. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF STORIES THAT THEY DO. SO IT COULD BE A VERY LARGE STORE WITH A VERY I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE PROXIMITY OF THE HOMES AS THEY. THAT WAS ONE QUESTION, ONE CHANGE. I WOULD SAY IF WE GET TO THIS WOULD BE WE ALLOW FARMERS MARKETS BY RIGHT. I FEEL LIKE OR WE'RE PROPOSING TO ALLOW THAT BY RIGHT IN THE REVISED. I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. THAT FEELS LIKE SOMETHING WE WOULD NOT WE WOULD WANT UNDER A PERMIT, I WOULD THINK. AND YEAH, YOU GUYS ARE WITHIN YOUR RIGHT TO MOVE THAT USED TO MOST OF THESE ARE PRETTY GENERAL RETAIL USES. IT FEELS LIKE BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB ON THE LIST, BUT THAT'S ONE THAT STANDS OUT THAT FEELS LIKE MIGHT NEED A LITTLE, LITTLE MORE. THAT COULD GO A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. OKAY. AND THEN YOU'RE LAUGHING. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TREES FOR A SECOND. SO YOU THIS IS JUST A GENERAL QUESTION. ALSO WE TALK ABOUT IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, YOU HAVE A SEE YOUR DEFINITION IS ONE LARGE TREE THREE INCH CALIBER EVERY 30 LINEAR FEET. RIGHT. NOT SAYING IF I AM FOR OR AGAINST. JUST CURIOUS WHAT 
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GOVERNS. WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? LIKE WHERE DOES THE 30 LINEAR FEET OR THE 15 SHRUBS EVERY 30 LINEAR. RIGHT. SO THOSE REGULATIONS ARE BASED ON THE PLANTINGS YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALONG THOROUGHFARES. SO ALONG THOROUGHFARES THOSE ARE THE PLANTINGS. AND THEN IF YOU SEE LIKE THE DIFFERENCE. SO ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THOSE ARE THE PLANTINGS YOU HAVE TO HAVE. AND THEN RESIDENTIAL THE PLANTINGS CHANGE. SO BASED ON WHAT THE ADJACENCY IS THAT'S WHERE THE PLANTING REGULATIONS COME INTO EFFECT. OKAY. ON THAT NOTE IS THE 30FT. IS THAT DUE TO JUST THE TREE HEALTH ITSELF THAT IF IT'S THAN THAT, IT WOULD IMPACT, POTENTIALLY IMPACT THE HEALTH? I THINK I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT IS WHERE IT COMES FROM, WHERE THAT COMES FROM. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT CONSTITUTES A LARGE TREE VERSUS AN ORNAMENTAL TREE. IT'S PRIMARILY THE HEIGHT THAT THE SPECIES WILL GROW TO, BUT IT'S ALSO THE CANOPY. TYPICALLY THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE AN OAK TREE OR WHAT HAVE YOU. IF YOU PUT THEM TOO CLOSE TOGETHER, THEY DON'T GROW. RIGHT. THE SHRUB PART CAUSES SOMETHING ELSE. YEAH, I MEAN I OKAY, I GET IT, BUT NONE OF US WILL BE AROUND WHEN THAT TREE GETS THAT BIG. SO THAT'S THOSE ARE JUST QUICK QUESTIONS FOR NOW. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT. IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT AS AS PRESENTED SAY. HOW BOUND ARE WE ON THIS CONCEPT PLAN. THE TITLE TELLS ME IT'S ONLY A CONCEPT. SO IT MEANS IT'S NOT FOR SURE. BUT FOR INSTANCE, LET ME JUST SAY I DON'T LIKE THE LOCATION OF THIS SO-CALLED GROCERY STORE. BUT I REALIZE CONCEPTUALLY IT MAY OR MAY NOT. IT MAY OR MAY NOT END UP BEING A GROCERY STORE, BUT IT SAYS GROCERY STORE ON IT. SO HELP ME, WHAT ARE WE APPROVING IF WE IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT? SO IT'S JUST LIKE IT SAYS, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S JUST A CONCEPT PLAN. AND SO AFTER THIS, THEY'LL COME IN WITH THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT WILL STAMP OUT THE EXACT DETAILS AND EXACT LOCATIONS OF THINGS. AND AT THAT POINT, THAT IS WHAT'S MORE CONCRETE RIGHT NOW. SO ON THAT PSP, THE GROCERY STORE COULD BE RELOCATED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION, A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA ON THE PSP, SO YOU'RE NOT BOUND TO THE EXACT USES. THE EXACT LOCATIONS ON HERE. JUST THAT THE POINT DRY POINT CONNECTIONS IN TERMS OF THE FILING AND THINGS LIKE THAT WON'T CHANGE, BUT THE LOCATIONS OF THE BUILDINGS AND THINGS CAN BE RELOCATED AT THE TIME OF THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN. AND ALSO THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM AS WELL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? WE'LL HAVE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IF SOME COME UP. 
          SO THIS IS REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM SIX. JUST PLEASE NOTE FOR THE RECORD JUST RIGHT BEFORE OUR MEETING WE DID HAVE ONE REQUEST CARD. I BELIEVE IT'S FROM THE APPLICANT. AND SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND I INVITE YOU TO COME FORWARD AND KIND OF REVIEW THE PROJECT, MAKE SURE WE GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THANKS FOR HAVING US TONIGHT. MY NAME IS HECTOR LEON. ADDRESS 2901 DALLAS PARKWAY IN PLANO. HERE REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER. JUST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I THINK THE CAR DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING THE PROJECT. REALLY? THE REASON, THE MAIN REASON WE'RE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH DAVID AND DAKARI AND STAFF, THEY'VE BEEN GREAT ON THIS IS TO THE MAIN REASON AGAIN, IS TO BE ABLE TO LOCATE THAT FUEL STATION AT THE CORNER. ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE MEETS CURRENT CODE OR CURRENT STANDARDS. WE'VE ENHANCED SOME OF THOSE SETBACKS FOR CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH STAFF, AND THEN WE'VE INCLUDED SOME STIPULATIONS ON WHAT THE MATERIALS WILL BE USED IN THIS BUILDINGS AS A AGAIN, PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF OR WHAT WHAT THE TOWN WILL BE COMFORTABLE WITH PROCEEDING WITH IN LIEU OF ESSENTIALLY ALLOWING THIS FUEL STATION AT THE CORNER. SO IS IT A FAIR QUESTION TO SAY RIGHT NOW WITH THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN? THE ONLY THING THAT'S KIND OF FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S SET IN STONE, IS THE GAS STATION PART OF IT AT THIS POINT? YES, SIR. THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT IS SET IN STONE. EVERYTHING ELSE IS VERY HIGH LEVEL CONCEPT TO THE CARS POINT. AS SOON AS WE'RE DONE THROUGH THIS ZONING CASE, THEN WE'LL COME IN WITH A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL. 
          AND AS THIS PROJECT, AS THIS OVERALL DEVELOPMENT MOVES ALONG, LET'S SAY ONE OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE FARTHER NORTH AS THEY COME IN, IF THEY WANTED SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO WHAT IT'S IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN PROCESS AGAIN, AMEND THE PREVIOUS PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN AND SO ON AND SO ON. AS FAR AS TIMING, HOW QUICK ARE Y'ALL LOOKING TO MOVE ON THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION PARK PART OF THIS PLAN. 
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SO AS FAR AS WHAT THE CLIENT'S CALLING THE MAIN, I GUESS, INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACTIVATE THE DEVELOPMENT AND START LOOKING FOR INDIVIDUAL TENANTS YOU'RE LOOKING AT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS A POINTER, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK ON THE SCREEN. RIGHT. SO IT'S KIND OF USUALLY THE TWO MAIN POINT OF ENTRIES I GUESS THE TWO CLOSEST TO THE INTERSECTION AND THEN THE DRIVE THAT CONNECT THOSE TWO BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THEN EXTENDS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT, ESSENTIALLY TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO ALL THE INDIVIDUAL. WHAT WILL BE AT SOME POINT INDIVIDUAL PLOTS OF LAND, THAT PORTION AND THE FUEL STATION, THEY WANT TO GET GOING WITH THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THEN ONCE THEY GET GOING ON THAT, THEN IDEALLY START TO TRY TO FIND EITHER LEASES OR SELLING THIS INDIVIDUAL PART TO WANT TO GET GOING. THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT IT WILL BE GREAT FOR THE CLIENT IF THEY CAN FIND PARTNERS AND LEASES ALL OF THEM RIGHT AWAY AND GET THIS GOING ALL RIGHT AWAY, I'M SURE WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO FIND ALL THE USERS, BUT ONCE THERE'S SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT AND SOME MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE, I'M SURE THERE WILL BE SOME TRACTION. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN INTERSECTIONS IN THE TOWN, SO I'M SURE IT'LL BE A LOT OF TRACTION ON IT. BUT TO THIS MOMENT, REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT IT WILL MOVE FORWARD RIGHT AWAY IS THE FUEL STATION AND SOME OF THAT MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I HAVE ONE ABOUT PARKING I SEE ON THE PLAN THAT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW. IT SHOWS THE PARKING COUNTS, BUT THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A SUMMARY. GENERALLY SPEAKING. HAVE YOU TESTED THE AMOUNT OF PARKING PROVIDED AGAINST WHAT WE REQUIRE FOR THOSE DIFFERENT USES? YES, SIR. SO WE'VE EVALUATED IN EACH LOT MEETS ITS OWN PARKING COUNT WHEN WE COME FORWARD SEEKING APPROVAL FOR THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN. ALL THAT WILL BE DETAILED THERE AS PART OF THE CHECKLIST OF THAT PLAN. AND YEAH, SO ALL THAT WILL BE FULLY DETAILED. BUT YES, WE'VE WE'VE EVALUATED THAT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE PRESENTING WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T MEET YOUR CODE. RIGHT. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH STAFF ON SOME OF THOSE DETAILS, INCLUDING LIKE SOME OF THE FIRE MARSHAL'S QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT ACCESS AND ALL THAT. SO WE TRY TO CLEAN UP ALL OF THOSE UP IN ADVANCE TO HOPEFULLY HAVE SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO WHAT'S GOING TO REPRESENT THAT PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN AND NOT COMPLETELY REINVENT THE WHEEL FOR YOU GUYS WHEN YOU GUYS SEE THIS AGAIN. 
          ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? I YOU LOOK LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING I WELL, YOU GOT SOMETHING I'M THINKING HERE I SEE IT. SO LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THOUGH, BECAUSE I MEAN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE. THE ONE THING THAT'S IN, IN STONE HERE IS THE GAS STATION. BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT IS A REZONING THAT ALLOWS A GAS STATION BY. SUP? YES, SIR. SO YOU WOULD. SO YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU WOULD HAVE TO RETURN FOR AN SUP TO GET. YEAH. WE UNDERSTAND THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PARK CORNER WITH THE FUEL STATION. IS THAT PIECE OF THAT TRACK WILL WILL HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU ALL FOR AN SUP FOR THAT SPECIFIC FUEL STATION. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND I GUESS THE INTENT IS Y'ALL WILL COME FORWARD WITH THAT REQUEST FAIRLY QUICKLY AS SOON AS WE AS SOON AS WE CAN PASS. YOU PASS THIS ZONING CASE, HOPEFULLY BEING APPROVED. YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? WELL, APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANKS FOR GOING THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION AND REVIEW. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE THAT WANT TO COME FORWARD AT THIS POINT AND TALK. I DON'T THINK WE DO. WELL APPRECIATE Y'ALL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX AND TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS. FOR THEIR COMMENTS ON ITEM SIX AND WHAT'S BEFORE US. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, I GUESS, COMMISSIONER FIORE, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? WE CAN START ON YOUR SIDE THIS EVENING. THANKS, GUYS. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANYTHING MATERIAL. I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK A LOT OF US WOULD AGREE THAT THE FIRST STREET LEGACY INTERSECTION IS EFFECTIVELY A MAJOR INTERSECTION WITHIN TOWN. YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A QUESTION ON, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY GAS STATIONS WE NEED IN TOWN, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR 
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ISSUES WITH IT. I THINK IT'S A WIN WIN AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE GIVE AND TAKE BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE AND THE DEVELOPER. THE PICTURES ARE ARE NICE AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS OF WHAT THE BUILDINGS WOULD, WOULD LOOK LIKE. IT'S A LITTLE A LITTLE DENSE AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, DENSITY OF THE, OF THE COMMERCIAL. I'M SURE THAT I DON'T WANT TO STEAL COMMISSIONER HAMILTON'S THUNDER THERE ON THE OTHER END OF THE. DAIS. BUT OVERALL, I DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR OBJECTIONS TO IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER BLANCHETT. YEAH, I GUESS I'M THE SAME WAY. I THINK THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE ARE AN IMPROVEMENT. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES THAT Y'ALL ARE WILLING TO AGREE TO FROM WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE. I THINK THOSE ARE IMPROVEMENTS. I THE CONCEPT PLAN AS IT'S PRESENTED. DOESN'T EXCITE ME MUCH. I DON'T LIKE THE CONCEPT OF A GROCERY STORE RIGHT THERE BACKING UP BEHIND THESE, THE HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE RIGHT AROUND THEM, I DON'T I THINK THAT'S A BAD LOCATION FOR THAT. I THINK IT COULD BE MOVED MORE INTERIOR AND STUFF. AND I REALIZE THAT'S THE CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD CHANGE. BUT IT JUST THAT TROUBLES ME A LOT ABOUT THIS. SO I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN IMPROVING AND APPROVING THIS, WE'RE NOT IN CONCRETE ON THIS, ON THESE, ON THAT KIND OF A CONCEPT. BUT OVERALL, I THINK THE, THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE HERE, I THIS IS I THINK IT'S ALSO DIFFICULT IN THIS CONCEPT PLAN. THE, THE CHOICES OF THE, THE KIND OF BUSINESSES THAT YOU PUT IN HERE, THE PICTURES THAT YOU'VE SHOWN ARE GREAT KINDS OF BUSINESSES. I HOPE THAT'S WHAT THE KIND THAT COMES HERE. I HOPE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S I DON'T IT'S JUST A IT'S JUST A, A CENTER, A RETAIL CENTER THAT'S JUST PLOPPED HERE IN THE CORNER. THERE'S NOTHING PRETTY ABOUT IT. THERE'S NOTHING ATTRACTIVE AROUND WHAT'S A VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S AROUND THERE. I'M HOPING THAT WHEN WE START SEEING SITE PLANS AND STUFF, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT BETTER. LOOK, THAT SHOWS US SOMETHING ATTRACTIVE HERE. BUT OVERALL, I THINK THE ZONING PURPOSE, I THINK WE'RE GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, MR. JACKSON. I CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER BRYANT SAID AROUND. EVERYTHING THEY SAID FOR ME, THIS IS A LOT GOING ON IN HERE. AND I WOULD JUST SAY AS WE GET TO THE NEXT PHASE, IF WE IF IT'S APPROVED, THAT THE NUMBER OF DRIVE THRUS SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER IS, IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT WE SEE A LOT AROUND. SO. THANK YOU, SIR. MR. CARSON, GO AHEAD. I GENERALLY AGREE WITH ALL THE SENTIMENTS. I DON'T HAVE A BIG ISSUE WITH THE DEFINITION OF THOROUGHFARE. I'M HAVING THIS BE A GAS STATION. I CERTAINLY AGREE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE WE NEED, BUT IF THERE'S A DEMAND AND IT SERVICES THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN SO BE IT. BUT I DON'T. TO THE REST OF THE COMMENTARY, THIS DOESN'T. OVERALL, THIS DOES NOT REALLY EXCITE ME. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO. THERE'S A FEW THINGS IN PARTICULAR, I WOULD SAY THE GROCERY STORE TUCKED BACK IN THE CORNER OF THE DUMPSTERS, RIGHT UP AGAINST THE RIGHT, UP AGAINST THE HOMES. I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE SITTING WITHIN A SETBACK, BUT TO ME, THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THIS, BUT WOULD NOT BE BE ALLOWED THAT CLOSE TO A TO A RESIDENCE. I THINK WHENEVER WE SEE THIS IN THE NEXT ROUND, IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, I'D LOVE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE THOUGHT TO THE LANDSCAPING, PARTICULARLY WHAT WHAT, YOU KNOW, DISGUISES OR HIDES SOME OF THIS PARTICULARLY LIGHT AND OTHER THINGS FROM THE RESIDENCES. AND JUST WHAT WHAT MAKES THIS BETTER THAN JUST A JUST ANOTHER STRIP RETAIL CENTER? I TOTALLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER JACKSON ON THE DRIVE THRUS. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WORKS WITH THREE, YOU KNOW, TWO DRIVE THRUS ADJACENT TO A GAS STATION. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DO BETTER THAN THAT IN THE TOWN OF PROSPER. AND THEN THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE INSTANCES HERE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON OTHER SITE PLANS THAT WE'VE REVIEWED. SO WHEN IT GETS TO THAT POINT, PARTICULARLY THE ENTRY OFF OF FIRST AND THE BOTTOM LEFT, WHEN YOU'RE TURNING OFF OF A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE OR A MINOR BY DEFINITION INTO HEAD IN PARKING WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE BACKING OUT, THERE'S A PRETTY BIG CONCERN OF A BACKUP ON THE FIRST. AND WE'VE HAD SIMILAR INSTANCES OF THIS THAT WE HAD THE SAME CONCERN ALONG PRESTON. 
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SO I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK AND REFINEMENT TO DO. I DO ACKNOWLEDGE WE'RE NITPICKING A CONCEPT PLAN. SO BUT I JUST THINK IF THIS MOVES FORWARD FOR THE SAKE OF THE GAS STATION, I DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR OBJECTION TO IT. AND I THINK THE STAFF AND THE AND THE APPLICANT HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB BEING REASONABLE AND MAKING THIS A LITTLE MORE AMENABLE WITH THE DIFFERENT USES. I THINK THE ONLY POTENTIAL CHANGE, I WOULD SAY, IS I THINK FARMER'S MARKET PROBABLY WOULD BE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IF WE THINK THAT'S EVEN APPLICABLE, OR WE JUST TAKE IT OUT EITHER WAY AS A USE. SO THAT'S MY GENERAL COMMENTS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HARRIS. 
          FOR WHAT'S AND THANK YOU FOR THE FOR BEING HERE TO PRESENT AND THE INFORMATION FOR WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED HERE OR FOR WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE APPROACHING THIS GROUP FOR TODAY, WHICH IS JUST REZONING, PD REZONING. I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT. I THINK FOR ALL THE OTHER ISSUES AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT I MAY OR MAY LIKE TO SEE CHANGES WITH, I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOU COME BACK. SO I CAN ECHO MUCH OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT WERE SAID HERE. YOU HAVE A LOT TO CHEW ON AS YOU KIND OF REFINE THIS CONCEPT PLAN. SO IT MAKES THINGS A LOT EASIER IF YOU TAKE ALL THIS STUFF INTO ACCOUNT AND WHEN YOU COME BACK, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE MOVING FORWARD, BUT NO ISSUES WITH WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO US TODAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HARRIS. 
          COMMISSIONER HAMILTON, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS OR ECHO MANY OF THE COMMENTS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY EXCITING IN MY OPINION. I DO LIKE THE CONCEPTUAL IMAGES OF THE DIFFERENT RETAILERS THAT WAS USED AND HOW THOSE BUILDINGS LOOKS. I THINK THAT IS I AND I APPRECIATE IT. I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE'RE INCLUDING THAT IN THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN. I KNOW A LOT OF THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ABOUT A CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH IS JUST A CONCEPT PLAN AT THIS STAGE. WHAT I THINK WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THIS PROJECT IN GENERAL IS THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND PARKING. IT'S NOT VERY EXCITING FOR WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE WHAT I THINK IS A PRETTY PRIME CORNER. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE USABLE OPEN SPACE USED IN A POSITIVE WAY. CURRENTLY, WE REQUIRE WE REQUIRE REQUIRE 7% OPEN SPACE. EASY FOR ME TO SAY. AND MY REQUEST IS TO BUMP IT UP JUST SLIGHTLY TO 10% OF OPEN SPACE. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE REQUIRE IT TO BE USABLE OPEN SPACE. I GUESS I'D LIKE TO PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE LANGUAGE IN THAT USABLE OPEN SPACE TO INCLUDE SOME ITEMS, EITHER LIKE PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS, GAZEBOS OR PERGOLAS, SEATING AREA WITH SHADE STRUCTURE, WATER FEATURES LIKE FOUNTAINS OR NATURALIZED STREAM BANKS, OR LIKE STONE TERRACING AND LOW MASONRY SEATING WALLS. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT OTHER CITIES REQUIRE IN THE AREA. AND I THINK THIS INCREASING THE OPEN SPACE AND JUST ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE VISUAL ELEMENTS WILL HELP SOFTEN THE LOOK OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND I THINK IT WOULD ADD A LOT OF CHARACTER AND QUALITY TO IT. SO MY REQUEST IS OUT OF THOSE FIVE ITEMS THAT I MENTIONED, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF THREE OF THEM. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I DON'T KNOW, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT SURE THAT THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AS IS. I'M NOT REALLY SURE, BUT I WILL ATTEMPT TO MAKE A MOTION AND WE'LL SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ARE. AND IT CAN BE TWEAKED ACCORDINGLY. BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGES THAT. YEP. 
          THAT'S MY OKAY. GO AHEAD. SO ONE THING BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION, PUT MY COMMENTS ON THE RECORD. I'M SORRY. NO YOU'RE FINE. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DID CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING EARLIER. I THINK I DID OKAY, I'M PRETTY SURE I DID. SO THE ONE THING IS ITEM SIX. THIS IS WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT HARD FOR US WHEN WE HEAR THESE THINGS, THESE CASES, ALL THE TIME. AS FAR AS THE ZONING REQUEST THAT REALLY IS PRESENTED TONIGHT, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE CHANGE, THE ZONING REQUEST, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT TOWN STAFF HAS DONE, ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE, TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM, I THINK, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THIS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO I THINK IF YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THAT TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER 
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HAMILTON, IF, IF THERE IS A MOTION THAT'S PRESENTED THIS EVENING TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE ITEM SIX, BUT IF THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE AND THERE'S SOME CONTINGENT SEES THAT YOU WANT TO ADD INTO THAT MOTION, I SUGGEST THAT THAT WHOEVER MAKES THAT MOTION, YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL ITEMS, AND YOU MAY SOLICIT ANY FEEDBACK AS WE GO THROUGH, OR SOMETHING MAY GET ADDED TO IT AS IT GOES OR NOT. SO IF THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE GOING EARLIER. SO BEFORE I DO THAT, COMMISSIONER CARSON, YOU HAD ANOTHER COMMENT. AND I JUST LIKE OUT OF ORDER COMMENT, BUT I'LL ASK IT ANYWAY SINCE I'VE NOW CLEARLY FUMBLED MY WAY INTO THIS ON A PROPERTY LIKE THIS, DO WE NOT REQUIRE DETENTION ON SITE FOR STORMWATER? FOR THE MOST PART, THE PROPERTY ON THE ON. I'M SORRY FOR THE FOR THE MOST PART, THE PROPERTY THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN DOES NOT REQUIRE DETENTION BECAUSE OF STUDY THAT WAS DONE WITH WINDSONG RANCH. WHEN THE DOUGH BRANCH AND THE IDEA IS ALL THE WATER IS FLOWING THERE AND TO GET IT THERE FASTER. SO IT'S NOT REALLY HELD UP SOMEPLACE. AND SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT DOES NOT. 
          BUT IF THERE ARE SOME TIMES, IF THERE ARE PINCH POINTS OR EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, IT MIGHT NEED SOME. AND THAT COMES OUT IN THE WASH, SO TO SPEAK, WHEN THEY START DOING THE CIVIL. 
          BUT BUT IN GENERAL IT DOESN'T NEED IT. NO. SO IT DOESN'T RELATE TO THE CASE IN HERE. 
          CORRECT. SO DO WE EVALUATE THAT ADDITIONAL LOAD ON THE SYSTEM AT AT WHICH, AT WHAT POINT IN THE PROCESS THAT WAS DONE AT THE TIME WINDSONG RANCH WAS BEING DEVELOPED. AND AGAIN, THE WHOLE DOE BRANCH PROCESS IT IT ASSUMED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DRAINAGE FROM FULLY DEVELOPED AREAS AROUND THAT, YOU KNOW, THIRD OF THE TOWN OR WHATEVER IT WAS. I WASN'T HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED, BUT AND SO AS EACH DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THE ENGINEERS WILL CHECK THAT AS PART OF THE CIVIL PERMITS FOR LAND MOVEMENT, LAND DISTURBANCE PERMITS, IT'S CALLED. SO GRADING AND UTILITIES AND ROADS AND PAVING AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO IN, THEY HAVE TO BASICALLY PROVE UP THAT WHAT WAS ALLOCATED IS MET, ALLOCATED FOR IN THE STUDY FOR WINDSONG RANCH AND THE WHOLE DOE BRANCH AREA. 
          SO IF THEY WOUND UP DOING SOMETHING EXTREMELY OUT OF THE ORDINARY THAT WAS GENERATING MORE, MORE DRAINAGE, THEY'D HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR IT. SO IT IS CHECKED. BUT AGAIN, IT'S PRETTY RARE. IF YOU LOOK ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE'S NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF DETENTION THERE. IT'S GENERALLY ON THE EAST SIDE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL TRY. AND SO WE'RE BACK TO ITEM SIX. YES. WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, SUBJECT TO STAFF'S COMMENTS. AND I DO WANT TO SAY I DO APPRECIATE I DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING REQUEST. AND I APPRECIATE THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT WORKING TO GET TO THIS AT THIS POINT. SO MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF CHANGES THAT WERE MADE. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS TO THAT, TO THAT TO INCLUDE AN INCREASE OF OPEN SPACE FROM 7% TO 10%, AND TO INCLUDE AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF THREE OF THE FIVE AMENITIES THAT I MENTIONED. IF YOU WANT I COULD LIST, I NEED TO MENTION THOSE AGAIN. OKAY. THOSE INCLUDE PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS, GAZEBOS OR PERGOLAS, SEATING AREAS WITH SHADE STRUCTURES, WATER FEATURES LIKE FOUNTAINS OR NATURALIZED STRING BANKS OR STONE TERRACING, AND LOW MASONRY SEATING WALLS. SO THE THREE AT LEAST THREE OF THOSE FIVE THAT I MENTIONED, OBVIOUSLY THE MORE THE BETTER. AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE CHANGE TO MOVE FARMER'S MARKET BY RIGHT AND MOVE IT TO BY SUV. THAT'S YOUR MOTION. THAT'S MY MOTION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HAMILTON. SO WE HAVE ON ON THE FLOOR A MOTION. YEAH. JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION ON THE OPEN SPACE FOR 10%. IS THAT 10% OF EACH LOT OR 10% OF THE ENTIRE AREA? I WAS INTENDING IT REALLY TO BE 10% AS A TOTAL, IN A SENSE THAT IN SOME CASES, THEY MIGHT WANT TO PUSH SOME OF THAT OPEN SPACE TO AN AREA TO, TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE VISUALLY APPEALING THAN LIKE A THIN STRIP 
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AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT WOULD BE IN TOTAL. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION TO OPEN SPACE. I ASSUME YOU MEAN USABLE OPEN SPACE OKAY. USABLE OPEN SPACE. I EVEN HAVE THAT ON MY NOTES. USABLE OPEN SPACE SO IT'S USABLE. YES. GOOD IDEA. OKAY, SO COULD I ADD ONE MORE THING? I'M SORRY. AND THIS IS JUST POINT JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR ANYBODY WHO MAY BE WATCHING OR SEE IT LATER ON AND WONDERING WHAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING, TALKING ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE AND SUCH. WE REALLY HAVE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE INTERNAL LOTS THAT HAVE CERTAIN SEPARATIONS FOR LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC. 
          WE HAVE THE MEDIAN EXCUSE ME, WHAT MEDIANS IF THERE ARE, BUT WE HAVE THE PARKING THAT ARE REQUIRED IN THE PARKING LOTS AFTER SO MANY PARKING SPACES AND SO FORTH. SO IF THE 10% IN THE AGGREGATE IS STUCK IN THE CENTER, LET'S SAY IT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'LL BE NO LANDSCAPING AND NO GREEN AND NO ANYTHING ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE SITE, BECAUSE IT'S ALL IN AGGREGATE. 
          THERE'S STILL THAT BASIC MINIMUM THAT'S THERE, BUT THE ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE COULD BE PUT IN AN AGGREGATE TO WHERE IT'S UTILIZED AS OPPOSED TO, AGAIN, HAVING A THREE FOOT STRIP AROUND A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT NOBODY COULD USE. AND SO THIS IS AN ADDITION TO THE NORMAL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT. THERE'S THE REQUIREMENT THAT DOES NOT COUNT IN THE OPEN SPACE CALCULATIONS. 
          THEY ARE FOR THE BUFFERS FOR INSTANCE, THAT ARE REQUIRED. THAT WAS IN THE LANDSCAPE WHERE THERE WAS A 30 FOOT BUFFER OR A 15 FOOT BUFFER OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THAT'S NOT OPEN SPACE AS FAR AS OUR OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE CONCERNED. THAT'S A DEDICATED LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT. SO ALL OF THOSE WILL STILL BE IN PLACE. AND THIS OPEN SPACE IS ADDITIONAL. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. THANK YOU FOR A SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR COMMISSIONER HAMILTON. THE DETAIL THAT WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. AND WE CAN ASK FOR CLARIFICATION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION A SECOND. SO WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARSON. SO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER SIX, SUBJECT TO THE ADDITIONAL CRITERIA THAT COMMISSIONER HAMILTON MENTIONED, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX AS PRESENTED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND I COUNT SEVEN HANDS IN FAVOR. SO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX IS APPROVED 7 TO 0 WITH THE CONTINGENCIES IN THE CRITERIA THAT COMMISSIONER HAMILTON ADDED TO THAT. SO THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. 
          YEP. AND APPRECIATE TOWN STAFF ON THAT THAT IT'S GOOD GOOD TEAM WORK FOR THE TOWN. ALRIGHT. 
          [7. Review actions taken by the Town Council and possibly direct Town Staff to schedule topic(s) for discussion at a future meeting.]
AGENDA ITEM SEVEN REVIEW ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE TOWN COUNCIL AND POSSIBLY DIRECT TOWN STAFF TO SCHEDULE TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. SO AT THE PREVIOUS TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, WELL THE PREVIOUS ONE TO JULY 8TH WHICH GOT CANCELED, YOU GUYS KNOW THAT. SO ON TUESDAY, JUNE 24TH, THE CONSENT AGENDA THERE WAS THE PD FOR SINGLE FAMILY THAT SPLIT THAT LOT UP. ANYTHING THAT THAT'S APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY CAN BE PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AT TOWN COUNCIL. SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THERE. AND THEN THE TWO WAIVERS THAT YOU GUYS SAW PREVIOUSLY FOR FRONTIER SOUTH AND VICTORY WERE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY, AS WELL AS THE NOTICE OF APPEALS AND ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA FOR THE 22ND, THAT ORDINANCE FOR THE PD THAT SPLIT THAT ONE LOT. AND THEN THE NOTICE OF APPEALS AS WELL IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND FUTURE ITEMS FOR THE FIFTH, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS STILL BEING WORKED OUT AND ON THE REGULAR AGENDA IT WILL BE PROSPER OAKS, WHICH WAS TABLED TODAY. SO THAT'S ALL WE GOT. AND YOU GUYS WILL NOTICE THAT THERE'S NO UDC WORK SESSION FOR THIS ONE. SO TONIGHT'S THE LAST ONE. IS THERE A IS THAT. 
          YEAH. IS THERE A ZONING CHANGE THAT EITHER HAS HAPPENED OR IS COMING SOON JUST ON FIRST STREET JUST EAST OF HERE THAT WE HAVE COMING UP OR SOMETHING. THERE'S A SIGNAGE THAT'S BEEN OUT FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS ON A PROPERTY ON FIRST STREET. IS THAT. OH, OKAY. YES, THERE IS ONE. I THINK THAT ONE PROBABLY WILL SEE IN AUGUST. YEAH. SO IT'S A PD TO REZONE A PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY SINGLE FAMILY 15 INTO A DOWNTOWN OFFICE. SO KIND OF HOW YOU'VE SEEN THOSE OTHER DOWNTOWN OFFICE REZONINGS SIMILAR TO THAT. SO THEY WERE WANTING TO DO, I THINK AN INTERIOR DESIGN STUDIO, BUT THAT KIND OF FELL THROUGH. AND SO NOW IT'S JUST A GOING TO BE OFFICE USES TO THAT SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. SO YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THAT SOMETIME IN AUGUST. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE THE FIFTH PER SE, BUT THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT SOON. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF AT THIS POINT? THERE ARE ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF MORE THINGS I COULD 
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ADD. THE OTHER SIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN ON FIRST STREET FOR QUITE A WHILE FOR THE GATES EXPANSION THAT YOU ALL HAD, THAT AT ONE POINT, YOU WILL PROBABLY HAVE THAT ON YOUR AUGUST 5TH AGENDA. 
          VERY GOOD POSSIBILITY. SO THAT'S AT LEAST WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR RIGHT NOW, SO THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT ONE AGAIN. OKAY. IT DOES HAVE CHANGES FROM FROM WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. NOT MAJOR CHANGES BUT BUT CHANGES. SO GOOD TO KNOW. I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'LL BE THERE. WE MET WITH THEM AGAIN TODAY. AND SO I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IT READY TO GO AT ABOUT FOUR DIFFERENT SITE PLANS THAT WERE DONE IN EACH TIME THEY GOT ONE, THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT, SO THEY'D SEND IT BACK AND THEY'D GET IT REVISED AGAIN. AND THAT'S PARTLY WHAT WAS TAKEN A LONG TIME. AND THEN I THINK THERE WAS SOME INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL THAT COUNCIL WAS HAVING NOT NOT WITH BLUE STAR, BUT JUST COUNCIL ABOUT DIFFERENT IDEAS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. AND IT'LL IT SHOULD ALL FALL INTO PLACE BY THE TIME Y'ALL SEE IT AGAIN ON THE FIFTH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. ADJOURN. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER JACKSON, DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRIS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. WE ARE ADJOURNED. IT
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