Apr 01, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission

DID TO YOU. YEAH, I MEAN, ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY READY? GOOD. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS THE

[1. Call to Order / Roll Call]

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[CONSENT AGENDA]

DID ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL ANY ITEM OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING? I THINK WE MAY HAVE A COUPLE HERE WE WANT TO PULL THIS EVENING. SO. THREE F AND THREE G. SO PULL.

COMMISSIONER HAMILTON NOTED A PULL CONSENT ITEMS THREE F, THREE G. ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PULL OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY. IF NOT, WE'LL PULL THOSE TWO ITEMS. WE ALL GOOD. AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH WOULD BE THREE A, 33333, THREE E AND THREE H. SO MOVED. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. COMMISSIONER HARRIS, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAMILTON, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THREE A, THREE, THREE, THREE, THREE, THREE D, THREE AND THREE H. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND THAT MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0 AND APPROVAL. SO WE'LL TAKE IT BACK ON REGULAR OR EXCUSE ME CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

[3f. Consider and act upon a request for a Preliminary Plat of Prosper 170, Phases 1 & 2, on 169.5± acres, located on the north side of First Street and 1,860± feet east of Coit Road. (DEVAPP-24-0125) ]

FRONT YARD IS 20FT. MINIMUM SIDE YARD IS SEVEN FEET. REAR YARD IS 20FT. THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER WITH 10,000FT■!S, MINIMUM LOT WIDTH F 75 AND MINIMUM LOT DEPTH OF 125FT. THEY HAVE POCKET PARKS, LAKESIDE AMENITIES, AND HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS. HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP FOR THIS LOCATION, WHICH WE DISCUSSED IN THE BACK. THIS IS THE ACTUAL PRELIMINARY PLAT, AND THE REST OF THE SLIDES ARE JUST BREAKING DOWN, SHOWING YOU THE PHASES IN WHICH THEY INTEND TO DEVELOP. THIS IS AS SUZANNE STATED EARLIER, WE'RE GOING TO START

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AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION I HAD HAD TO DO WITH THE LANDSCAPING, THE USABLE OPEN SPACE, SORRY, NOT LANDSCAPING, USABLE OPEN SPACE. SO IN THE PD IT'S WRITTEN THAT. THE DISTRIBUTION OF NATURAL BEAUTY THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, EXEMPLIFIED BY LAKES, MATURE TREES AND AREAS OF ROLLING TOPOGRAPHY, PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A COMMUNITY WIDE TRAIL PUNCTUATED WITH NODES OF BUILT IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS POCKET PARKS AND. TO HELP PRESERVE THE OPEN CHARACTER OF THE TOWN OF PROSPER. IT IS INTENT OF THE PD THAT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF NATURAL OPEN SPACE, PARTICULARLY AMID THE FLOODPLAIN AND OTHER SENSITIVE LAND, BE SET ASIDE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE FOR BROOK HOLLOW, THE TOWN. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OPEN SPACE IS ALL USABLE AND ACCESSIBLE FOR NOT ONLY THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO THE AREA SURROUNDING IT. OKAY, SO WE HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT I WILL CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU AND GET A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT THEY INTEND FOR THEIR OPEN SPACE. DOES THE PD HAVE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF OPEN SPACE? IT JUST SPECIFIED THE THAT BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY ABOUT IT BEING VERY USABLE, USABLE AND PASSIVE, BUT ACCESSIBLE. LIKE MY CONCERN IS LIKE IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THE GREEN SPACE AND I KNOW THAT WHERE THE I THINK IT'S THE TRANSMISSION LINES ON THE DIAGONAL PORTION ON THE SOUTH PART, I COULD SEE PHYSICALLY A TRAIL THAT GOES THROUGH THERE, WHICH IS GREAT. SO IT WILL BE A WAY TO CONNECT THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF THERE, BUT ALSO ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN SPACE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT OPEN SPACE IS USABLE AND ACCESSIBLE. MR. AS AS IT BASICALLY IS NOTED IN THE PD, AND I WOULDN'T THINK YOU WOULD COUNT WATER, A BODY OF WATER AS USABLE UNLESS I GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A SOME WAY TO USE IT. I AGREE WITH YOU. FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS FOR STAFF. SO WE'VE GOT OPEN SPACE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON ITEM THREE F.

CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THE SCREENING WILL BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT? THE PART THAT'S JUST NORTH OF FIRST STREET. HOW WILL THAT LOOK TOWARD IF YOU'RE ON FIRST STREET? IS THAT IS THAT WROUGHT IRON FENCING WITH THOSE HOUSES. ARE IS IT GOING TO BE A WALL. IS IT GOING TO BE. A WOOD? I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT AT THE MOMENT. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T GO OVER WITH THE APPLICANT. BUT AS FAR AS OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WITH IT, WE, WE PREFER THAT THE SCREENING BE THE SAME AS THE SOUTH SIDE OF FIRST STREET. OH YEAH. SO ALONG

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AND THEN ALSO ON YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION. SO THERE ARE THERE'S THAT TRAIL, THAT 12 FOOT WIDE TRAIL THAT GOES THROUGHOUT THAT EASEMENT THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE TO KIND OF PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY.

AND THEN IN THESE CIRCLED AREAS THERE ARE DIFFERENT POCKET PARKS. THIS ONE HERE IS A LAKESIDE PARK WHERE YOU HAVE LIKE I THINK FISHING AMENITIES OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT. SO THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, THERE ARE CERTAIN POCKET PARKS AND AMENITIES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED. AND THERE'S TRAILS TO CONNECT THOSE FOR CONNECTIVITY AND WALKABILITY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. MY MAIN CONCERN IS JUST MAKING SURE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE THEY'RE USING THAT OPEN SPACE WISELY, BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ACTUAL TRAILS OF SIDEWALKS, PHYSICAL SIDEWALKS TO GET TO THOSE AMENITIES. ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN THE SCREENING FROM THE EAST SID, FROM THIS CURRENT DEVELOPMENT TO WHITLEY PLACE, IS THAT THE IS THAT THE SAME TYPE OF SCREENING OR WOULD THAT BE DIFFERENT SCREENING. SO RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL WOULD JUST BE SOME SORT OF SOLID FENCING, WHETHER THAT BE WOOD OR WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THE SAME. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME WROUGHT IRON UNLESS IT'S OPEN SPACE AREA INDICATED ON THIS, WHICH ACTUALLY. SO ALONG THIS AREA, I BELIEVE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE AN HOA DEDICATED LOT, THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE OPEN FENCING HERE. BUT IF IT'S NOT HOA DEDICATED THEN IT WOULD JUST BE YOUR TYPICAL WOODEN BOARD ON BOARD WOODEN FENCING. SO LIKE THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT EXAMPLE IF THAT IS OPEN SPACE, IF THAT'S BEING COUNTED AS USABLE OPEN SPACE, THEN I WOULD EXPECT THAT.

THEN THERE WOULD BE A SIDEWALK CONNECTING THAT, NOT JUST A GREEN SPACE THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY USE. UNDERSTOOD. JUST AS A SUBJECT WHERE YOU HAVE THE I DON'T SEE A NAME OF THAT ROAD, BUT KIND OF THE CONNECTOR TO WHITLEY PLACE. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT REALLY MATTERS, BUT IS DO WE, DO THEY HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM WHITLEY PLACE TO CONNECT A KIND OF A THOROUGHFARE INTO WHAT CLEARLY ISN'T RIGHT NOW? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS STREET HERE? YEAH, YEAH, IT'S BASICALLY A LITTLE CUL DE SAC. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THOSE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON WHAT THEY PROBABLY THOUGHT WAS A CUL DE SAC. AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE A THROUGH STREET. WELL, AND SO WHEN THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER, SO RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS HAVE TO CONNECT TO ONE, TWO, ONE ANOTHER FOR FIRE ACCESS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE SUBDIVISIONS. THE RIGHT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY WAS DEDICATED TO THE PROPERTY LINE, SO THEY'RE JUST EXTENDING IT. SO IT WAS KIND OF POSSIBLY INTENDED AND THAT WAS LIKE A TEMPORARY OKAY. SO IT WAS MORE LIKE THE BUBBLE JUST BECAUSE OF THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THERE YET. IT WAS DEVELOPED AT THAT POINT. SO IT WASN'T LIKE THAT. THAT PARTICULAR HOMEOWNER ON THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THOUGHT THEY WERE LIVING ON A CUL DE SAC, FOR EXAMPLE. WELL, I GUESS I CAN'T ASSUME WHAT ANYONE THOUGHT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WAS DEVELOPED. YES, YES. NOT ASSUMED, BUT I MEAN, IT WAS NOT DEVELOPED LIKE A CUL DE SAC. IT WAS DEVELOPED JUST THAT TURNAROUND FOR THE FIRE ACCESS. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE WE READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM THREE F? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM THREE F, SUBJECT TO STAFF REVIEW OF THE DENSITY FOR THE OVERALL PD AS WELL AS THIS INDIVIDUAL PORTION OF IT, AND A REVIEW OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL USABLE SPACE THAT IS BEING INCLUDED IN THE OPEN SPACE IS USABLE AS WRITTEN IN THE PD, TO BE USABLE OPEN SPACE. OKAY. GOT IT. IS THAT IT? I DON'T KNOW, DID I MISS ANYTHING? I DON'T THINK. WOULD IT BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED? BECAUSE IF YOU REVIEW AND YOU FIND THAT IT DOESN'T MEET THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS, JUST REVIEWING IT WOULD SATISFY THAT LANGUAGE. SO YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BOTH REVIEW AND AGREE THAT IT MEETS THE OVERALL DENSITY REQUIREMENTS. CORRECT. IF STAFF

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[3g. Consider and act upon a request for a Preliminary Plat of Mythri Brookhollow Townhomes, on 20.2± acres, located 500± feet north of University Drive and 2,585± feet west of Custer Road. (DEVAPP-24-0137) ]

THEY ARE SHOWING 21.7%. AND THEN JUST ADDITIONALLY THEY HAVE LANDSCAPING AND OPEN SPACE. SO THEY HAVE AN AMENITIZED DETENTION POND, OTHER AMENITY AREAS WITHIN THE AMENITY CENTER, AND THEN TRAILS THROUGHOUT THOSE AREAS. HERE IS A PLAT OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. HERE IS THE OPEN SPACE SHOWING THE CALCULATIONS OF HOW THEY ARRIVED AT THAT AND WHAT THEY'RE COUNTING AS OPEN SPACE. AND LASTLY, HERE IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT KIND OF SHOWS ALL THE PLANTINGS THEY'LL HAVE, THE TRAILS THAT RUN THROUGH ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THEIR AMENITY CLUBHOUSE AND THEIR AMENITIES, DETENTION POND. AND THAT IS ALSO I WILL NOW TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FOR ME ON THIS ONE. AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TONIGHT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO SAY A GOOD IF YOU GO TO THE OPEN SPACE PORTION, THE ONE AFTER THAT ACTUALLY THIS ONE. THANK YOU FOR THIS VISUAL OF THE OPEN SPACE AND BEING ABLE TO SEE WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS GO THROUGH THIS AREA. AND SO THIS GRAPHIC WILL WILL CARRY THROUGH WITH THIS PLAN. RIGHT? I KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET A FUTURE. I THINK IT SAID SOMEWHERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET A FUTURE APPROVAL OF THE AMENITY CENTER OR SOMETHING. YES. SO THE SITE PLAN. SO FOR THE AMENITY CENTER, THERE HAS TO BE A SITE PLAN THAT WILL BE SEPARATE OF THE PLAT THAT HAS TO COME IN FOR YOUR APPROVAL. RIGHT. BUT APPRECIATE THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT. IT LOOKS. I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO VISUALLY SEE HOW IT'S LAID OUT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY. THOSE TOWNHOMES ARE BUTTING UP TO THE NEW APARTMENTS, AND THAT EAST IS A WALL, RIGHT? I SEE IT'S TREES ON HERE, BUT IS THERE A WALL ON THE OTHER SIDE? YES. I BELIEVE THERE'S A WALL THAT SEPARATES THE TOWNHOMES FROM THE APARTMENTS AND THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THIS TOWNHOME AND THE FUTURE COMMERCIAL PHASE BELOW.

IT IS GOING TO BE WHAT KIND OF SCREENING IS THAT? THERE WILL BE SO COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

THE REQUIREMENT IS THERE HAS TO BE A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREEN WALL. OKAY. AND COULD YOU SHOW JUST DO YOU HAVE LIKE THE LITTLE POINTER TO SHOW THE CLUSTERS? I KNOW OUR TOWNHOME ORDINANCE SAYS 3 TO 8 UNITS PER TOWNHOME. IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE BY THE GRAPHIC THAT WE HAD, IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE IT WAS ALL TOGETHER AND HARD TO TELL THE SEPARATION, HARD TO ZOOM IN, BUT THEY'VE GOT THESE LITTLE DASHED LINES. AND IF YOU CAN SEE HOW MY POINTER IS RUNNING, THEY HAVE BOXES AROUND

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SO THAT WOULD BE USABLE OPEN SPACE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EACH OF THOSE COMPONENTS IN GREEN ARE INDEED THE OPEN SPACE IT IS. AND OUR LANDSCAPE PLANNER WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT WORKING TO EXPAND THAT SPACE TO THE NORTH TO MAKE SURE IT MET THAT 50 FOOT WIDTH REQUIREMENT FOR OPEN SPACE. OKAY. SO TWO QUESTIONS, BOTH LANDSCAPING RELATED. ONE, HOW DO WE COUNT THE AMENITY CENTERS, OPEN SPACE WHEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUILDING AND PARKING AND EVERYTHING ON THAT. SO THE PARKING WILL NOT COUNT AS OPEN SPACE. SO LIKE THE PARKING IS KIND OF OUTLINED IN TAN. THIS AREA ON THE PLAN. SO IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO HAVE THEIR CLUBHOUSE, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO HAVE OPEN AREAS WITH LANDSCAPING. AND SO IT WOULD COUNT AS OPEN SPACE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST A BUILDING ON THERE. THERE'S GOING TO BE LANDSCAPING AND OTHER FEATURES THAT ARE AMENITIZED. YEAH. JUST TO LOOK AT OTHER COMMISSIONERS COMMENT, IF WE'RE ALREADY THAT CLOSE TO THE MINIMUM AND WE PUT A BUILDING ON IT, THAT SHOULD NOT COUNT TOWARDS IT. AND I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE THEM RUN A CALCULATION THAT EXCLUDES THE AT LEAST THE AREA THAT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE ON, WHILE STILL COUNTING SOME OF THE OTHER AREA THAT THE BUILDING ISN'T ON ON THAT SPECIFIC TRACK. AND THEN SIMILAR. DO WE ALLOW A DETENTION POND TO BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE OPEN SPACE CALCULATION? DETENTION POND IS OPEN SPACE. IF IT IS AMENITIZED, IT'S NOT AMENITIZED THEN IT IS NOT SO LIKE A TRAIL OR A GAZEBO. IF THERE'S EXACTLY IF THERE'S LANDSCAPING TRAILS AROUND IT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IT WOULD COUNT. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. AND THEN JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS. THIS IS A GREAT VISUAL ON THEY'RE RECOMMENDING OR THEY'RE ASKING FOR 0 TO 5FT FRONT YARD. SO ALONG WHEN YOU'RE JUST DRIVING DOWN ONE OF THESE STREETS, THEIR BUILD LINE THEORETICALLY COULD BE PROPERTY LINE. IT COULD BE HAVE ZERO SIDEWALKS AND ZERO LANDSCAPING IN FRONT OF POTENTIALLY ANY OF THESE HOMES. IT'S LITERALLY JUST CONCRETE JUNGLE. YEAH. THE PD IS WRITTEN TO WHERE THERE ARE ZERO SETBACKS ON EVERY SINGLE SETBACK, WHETHER THAT BE FRONT, SIDE OR REAR. THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS THAT BETWEEN THE STRUCTURES, IT HAS TO BE THAT TEN FOOT CLEAR SPACE FOR FIRE. AND WHEN WAS THIS PD WRITTEN AGAIN I WANT TO SAY 2022. IT'S A NOT TOO LONG AGO. WE DON'T REQUIRE A SIDEWALK. IN FRONT OF THE TOWNHOMES IN FRONT OF ANY, ANY, ANY HOME. I'M GOING TO OPEN MY DOOR IF I'M A RESIDENT AND STEP INTO TRAFFIC. THE SIDEWALK WOULD SHOULD BE PART OF IS PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO THE BUILDING WOULD BE RIGHT ON THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE, AND THEN YOU'D HAVE THE SIDEWALK, YOU'D HAVE SOME GRASS, THE CURB, THE STREET. AND I BELIEVE THE ENGINEERS HERE COULD EXPLAIN HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE LAID OUT. I NOTICED THAT THE APPLICANT MAY BE HERE. I DON'T KNOW ANY COMMENTARY. WANT TO COME UP AND PROVIDE OR. EXCUSE ME. HOLD ON. SO YOU'RE SAYING IN THE 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, YOU BELIEVE THAT COULD ENTAIL A STANDARD TOWN ROAD? YOU KNOW THE RULES. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DAVID KALLAUGHER WITH WESTWOOD

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CORRECT. AND DID YOU SAY THERE'S OFF STREET PARKING OTHER THAN THE GARAGE DRIVEWAY. THERE'S THERE ARE TWO SPACES WITHIN THE UNIT RIGHT IN THE GARAGE. THEN THERE ARE TWO SPACES PROVIDED OFF STREET, JUST LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. GOTCHA. MY NEXT QUESTION IS NOT RELATIVE TO ZONING. OKAY, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK IT. WHAT KIND OF PRICE POIN? PRODUCT? I MEAN, IF YOU HAD TO RATE THIS PRODUCT THAT'S GOING IN HERE, WE'RE TALKING A HIGH LEVEL PRODUCT QUALITY AMENITY, ETC, OR MID LEVEL OR LOW LEVEL. WHAT BECAUSE OF THE AREA AROUND THIS, THIS WILL BE A HIGHER QUALITY PRODUCT. I WOULD EXPECT THESE TO START SOME OF THE SMALLER UNITS. WE DO HAVE A VARIETY OF 20 FOOT ALL THE WAY UP TO 25 FOOT. SO WE HAVE A VARYING DEGREE OF SQUARE FOOTAGES. WE CAN GO UP TO THREE STORY, SO SQUARE FOOTAGES CAN EXPONENTIALLY INCREASE THAT WAY.

QUALITY OF PRODUCT. WE HAVE A WELL KNOWN ARCHITECT ON BOARD NATIONALLY THAT WE'VE RETAINED WHO'VE DONE THE PLANS FOR THIS, WHICH YOU ALL WILL SEE. WE BRING THIS FORWARD WITH A SITE PLAN.

THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE AMENITY TO KEEP, TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN KEEPING. AND THEN WE ARE PROVIDING THE LANDSCAPE SERVICES. SO WE'RE WE'RE ONE TEAM. THIS WILL BE A QUALITY SUBDIVISION DRIVEN AND ALL IT WILL IT WILL HAVE AN HOA. YES SIR. AND BE MAINTAINED BY THAT I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. YOU SAID IT'S A COMBINATION OF TWO AND THREE STORIES, RIGHT. WE CAN GO UP TO THREE STORY RIGHT. MAYBE SOME OF THE IN UNITS THAT ARE 25FT WIDE BECAUSE OF THE BIGGER FLOOR PLAN THERE. WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED THOSE PLANS JUST YET, BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET A THREE STORY. YES. I THINK THE PD MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION THE PD SAYS IT NEEDS TO BE TWO STORIES WHEN IT'S NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL. SO WOULD THAT BE THE NORTH SIDE WILL BE TWO STORIES THEN. NOT NOT TWO AND A HALF OR THREE. AND I'M GOING TO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THE MULTIFAMILY, THE SCREENING THERE. CURRENTLY IT IS AN ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE THAT THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER PUT UP. SO WITH SOME LANDSCAPING ADJACENT TO THAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE WILL HAVE WITH THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO PLANT BASED ON THE OPEN SPACE.

WE'VE WORKED IT OUT WITH THE LANDSCAPE COORDINATOR TO PLANT TREES ALONG THERE, EVEN THOUGH THAT IS NOT OPEN SPACE, AND THEY AGREED WITH THAT. OR ELSE WE WOULD HAVE WAY TOO MANY TREES IN AND AROUND THAT DETENTION POND. IT DOESN'T APPEAR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY TREES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT DOWN THE STREET. NO STREET TREES PER SE. YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ROOM. NO, WE DIDN'T HAVE ROOM. BUT HAD WE BEEN ABLE TO DO THE PARALLEL PARKING, WE COULD HAVE HAD BUMP OUTS AND HAD SOME TREES THERE. NOW, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT THERE WON'T BE. THE TREES THAT ARE SHOWN ON HERE ARE PRIMARILY SPECIMEN TREES. THEY'RE LARGER CALIPER TREES. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT

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YEAH I MEAN IT'S ZONING. SO IT'S KIND OF ALREADY DONE. BUT IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S INTERPRETATION. SO WHATEVER HIS INTERPRETATION OF THAT IS, IS HOW WE WOULD APPLY IT. MAYBE THERE'S A HAPPY MEDIUM GROUND TO YOUR POINT. WELL, WELL, I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT WE HAVE ALONG THERE AND THE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY HAVING TO DO A WALL IN THIS CASE, THE DEVELOPER TO THE NORTH WAS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE SCREEN WALL. YOU'RE TALKING A 6 TO 8 FOOT FENCE, PLUS ANY OF THE SPECIMEN TREES THAT WE PUT ALONG THERE, MOST OF THOSE BEING LIVE OAKS, WHICH ARE EVERGREEN. THERE'LL BE ADDITIONAL SCREENING. WE ONLY HAVE THREE UNITS THERE. SO. THAT THAT WOULD DIRECTLY BE WITHIN THAT 50 FOOT RANGE. ALL THE OTHER UNITS EITHER HAVE AN ALLEY. THERE'S THREE OF THOSE THAT HAVE ANOTHER 20FT SEPARATION PLUS ANY SETBACK AWAY FROM THAT ALLEY. AND THEN THE OTHER UNITS ARE ADJACENT TO THE STREETS. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY FEW NUMBER OF LOTS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. PRETTY QUIET IN HERE. SO WE'LL TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. ITEM THREE G. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM THREE G. MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM THREE G. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER HARRIS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HARRIS. I WAS THINKING SOMETHING ELSE. DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE ITEM THREE G. DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANY CONDITIONS TO THAT. OR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS I STATED THAT WE DID A REVIEW OF THE LANDSCAPE PORTION TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF 20% TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S USABLE OPEN

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THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. SO WITH JOSH HAD A COMMENT ABOUT THE AMENITY CENTER PORTION OF THAT OKAY. SO REWORD YOUR MOTION IF YOU HAVE A MOTION STILL TO APPROVE ITEM THREE G CONTINGENT UPON STAFF CONFIRMATION THAT ALL USABLE OPEN SPACE IS ACTUAL USABLE OPEN, OPEN SPACE THAT MEETS THE TOWN'S 20% MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER HARRIS, DO WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER HARRIS'S MOTION? SECOND. SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARSON. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM THREE G. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM THREE G WITH THE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HARRIS REGARDING MEETING THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, PLEASE RAISEAS YOR HAND. AND I HAVE 1234567. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. SO APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT BEING HERE ANSWERING SOME QUESTIONS.

THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. OKAY. THANKS FOR THAT MADAM. NEXT ITEM TONIGHT OR CITIZEN COMMENTS I GUESS THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ANY TOPIC.

HOWEVER, THE COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA. PLEASE COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST FORM AND PRESENT IT TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE MEETING. DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE THAT HAD PRESENTED A CARD AND WANT TO PRESENT THIS EVENING? WE DO NOT. WE DO NOT. OKAY. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR

[4. Review actions taken by the Town Council and possibly direct Town Staff to schedule topic(s) for discussion at a future meeting.]

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS ADJOURN. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HARRIS, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? COMMISSIONER JACKSON, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO ADJOURN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. WE

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