13. Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon a request to rezone 0.3± acres on Prosper Central Addition, Block 1, Lot 1 from Single Family-15 to Planned Development–Downtown Office to allow multifamily, office, and retail uses, located on the northeast corner of Coleman Street and Sixth Street. (ZONE-23-0029) (DH)

[13. Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon a request to rezone 0.3± acres on Prosper Central Addition, Block 1, Lot 1 from Single Family-15 to Planned Development–Downtown Office to allow multifamily, office, and retail uses, located on the northeast corner of Coleman Street and Sixth Street. (ZONE-23-0029) (DH) ]

RECOGNIZED WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, WHICH IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A REQUEST TO REZONE 0.3 ACRES, APPROXIMATELY ON PROSPER CENTRAL ADDICTION ADDITION, BLOCK ONE LOT ONE SINGLE FAMILY 15 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN OFFICE TO ALLOW MULTI FAMILY OFFICE AND RETAIL USES. LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF COLEMAN AND SIXTH STREET, MR HOOVER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. BUT OBVIOUSLY, THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT BUTTON. OK, HERE IS JUST A PICTORIAL VERSION OF WHERE THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS, UM, IT'S THE MAYOR STATED. IT'S ON A CORNER OF COLEMAN AND SIXTH STREET. I SAYS , UH, REPRESENTATION OF THE ZONING CAN SEE IT'S UM, PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET. SO DOWNTOWN RETAIL, UM RESIDENTIAL TOWARDS THE EAST COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN IT'S A PD TO THE NORTH. IT'S THE METAL BUILDING. THAT'S THERE ON THE CORNER. THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE EARMARK IS TARGETED, IF YOU WILL, FOR, UM A RESIDENTIAL USE ARE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SO IT'S JUST WRITTEN VERSION OF WHAT I JUST SAID AS FAR AS THE ZONING CURRENT LAND, USE FUTURE LAND USE UH, THE PROPOSAL IS TO CONSTRUCT A MIXED USE BUILDING THAT WOULD HAVE OFFICE AND RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND, UM, FOUR APARTMENTS MULTIFAMILY UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE REQUEST WOULD BE PD, UH, FOR DOWNTOWN OFFICE AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A CATEGORY OF STRAIGHT ZONING FOR MIXED USE ZONING SO THAT COULDN'T BE REQUESTED IN THE ACTUAL ZONING ON IT. NOW IS SINGLE FAMILY S F-15 AND SO IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS MIX OF USES, IT NEEDS TO BE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. PD NEEDS A BASE ZONING AND THE BASE ZONING THAT WAS PICKED AS THE DOWNTOWN OFFICE. THIS IS, UM, SITE PLAN OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING. COLEMAN'S TO THE LEFT. UH THERE IS PARKING THAT'S AT THE REAR ON THE NORTH SIDE. SO A 20 FT ALLEY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT ALLEY. IS THAT PD FOR THAT, UH, METAL BUILDING. THAT'S THERE AND THEN SOUTH OF IT IS SIXTH STREET AND RIGHT BEHIND IT, IF YOU WILL , ON THE EAST IS THAT EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE MM. THIS IS A LIST OF THE PERMITTED USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IF THIS WOULD BE APPROVED. THERE ARE PLENTY OF USES. LET ME SEE IF WE HAVEVE THE LIST HERE. WE SEND IT OUT? BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE, UM OVERALL LIST OF USES THAT ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN OFFICE AND THE DOWNTOWN RETAIL.

UM GREATLY EXCEED WHAT THIS LIMITED LIST IS, UH, THIS CAME UP AS A RESULT OF THE, UM ITEM WHEN IT WAS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YEAH, IT THERE WERE MORE THINGS THAT WERE NOT SPECIFIED, I WOULD SAY AS FAR AS THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES WENT CONCERNING THE DOWNTOWN OFFICE, AND IN THE FIRST TIME IT WAS AT PNZ. THEY TABLED IT TO GET, UM, A MORE REFINED LIST THAT THAT HAD THINGS THAT WOULD NOT BE IN CONFLICT WITH PAST. UM ITEMS THAT THAT HAD BEEN REVIEWED BY THE COUNCIL AND EITHER SUPPORT IT OR NOT SUPPORTED AND SO CAME UP WITH A SMALLER LIST. BARKING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED AS TWO SPACES PER UNIT. UM I THINK I MENTIONED THERE WOULD BE PROPOSED WOULD BE FOR TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THE OFFICE WOULD

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BE CALCULATED AT ONE PER 350 SQUARE FEET. RETAIL WOULD BE ONE AT 250 SQUARE FEET. WHEN YOU USE THE RETAIL. IT'S OBVIOUSLY IS MORE THAN THE OFFICE THAN THE TOTAL REQUIREMENT WOULD STILL BE LESS, UM THAN, UM IF IT WAS ALL OFFICE. I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE MORE THAN IF IT WAS ALL OFFICE AND SO WE USE THE HIGHER NUMBER WHICH WOULD MEAN 18 SPACES WOULD BE REQUIRED. 20 SPACES ARE BEING SUPPLIED AND SO OR WOULD BE SUPPLIED AND SO PARKING IS ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED. LANDSCAPING ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES A 5 FT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AT THE PROPERTY LINES. UH, AN ORNAMENTAL TREES, SHRUBS EVERY 15 LINEAR FEET. WHAT'S BEING PROVIDED IS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON THE PROPERTY LINES. THE GROUND COVER ON NORTH AND SOUTH SIDES AND THEN ORNAMENTAL SHRUBS AND TREES ON THE EAST AND WEST PROPERTY LINE, SO THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN WHAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES. HERE'S THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PROPOSED AND THE REQUIRED EXACTLY WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU. AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GET A BETTER FEEL FROM THIS VIEW WHERE THE TREES WOULD BE. IF YOU NOTICE ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE'S A HEAVY DARK LINE. IT'S GOT A DOT UP AT THE TOP AND UP AT THE BOTTOM. THAT'S FOR THE PROPOSED FENCE THAT WOULD BE THERE TO PROPOSE TO BE AN 8. FT PRIVACY FENCE WOODEN FENCE. THERE IS AN EXISTING FENCE NOW. THAT'S NOT QUITE THAT LONG OR EXCUSE ME. THAT DOESN'T GO QUITE DOWN THAT FAR. THAT IS AS PART OF THE, UH EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE. AND IT'S ONLY A 6 FT FENCE. AND AS I MENTIONED, IT DOESN'T COVER THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THAT PROPERTY. ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED OR THOSE THAT ARE EXCUSE ME IN THE DOWNTOWN OFFICE. THERE'S SEVERAL EXAMPLES THAT ARE IN BOTH THE, UM DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AS WELL AS THE UM COMP PLAN OF BUILDING MATERIALS WOULD BE 92% MASONRY, EXCLUDING GLASS AND BRICK AND STONE. YOU SEE THAT BREAKDOWN AND THEN THIS IS THE ELEVATIONS. UM I THINK ORIGINALLY ONES THAT WE HAD SENT OUT THE ARCHITECT AND I THINK MISLABELED THEM DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR PERCEPTION OF RUNNING BACK IS. BUT THE EAST SIDE, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENCE IS WHERE THE GARAGES ARE. AND YOU SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE UPPER ELEVATION. THAT'S THE DOOR THAT WOULD LEAD UPSTAIRS TO A HALLWAY WHERE THE APARTMENTS WOULD BE. THE BOTTOM. THE WEST ELEVATION, WHICH IS WHAT FRONT COLEMAN. YOU SEE THE DOORWAYS AND THE WINDOWS THAT WOULD BE THERE FOR THE BUSINESSES THAT WOULD WOULD FRONT ON COLEMAN. AND, UH, HANDS OF THE BUILDING NORTH AND SOUTH.

UM, PLANNING COMMISSION. HAD A PRETTY LONG DISCUSSION ON ON THIS. THEY WOUND UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO PROVE, UH, FOREIGN FAVOR AND TO OPPOSED, UH, THE TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE OPPOSED WERE GENERALLY IN OPPOSITION DUE TO THE MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT AND THE ADJACENCY OF THE MULTIFAMILY ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL. BUT THAT'S THERE. UM THE RESIDENTIAL IT'S THERE IS, BY THE WAY, A DUPLEX. NOT THAT THAT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE, BUT IT IT'S YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER THAT MULTIFAMILY SOME PEOPLE WOULDN'T UM COMMISSIONER REEVES IS ACTUALLY HERE NOT TO PICK ON HIM. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE UM, COMMISSIONS ACTION AND I'M SURE HE'D BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN IT. STAFF HAD HAD RECOMMENDED. YEAH.

UM THERE WAS WE SENT OUT NOTICES BY THE WAY FOR ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS. IT WAS A SIGN ON THE LOT THERE. THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT, UM WE CONSIDERED IN OPPOSITION WAS THE EMAIL WAS IN A LETTER OR OR ANYTHING AND REASON. THAT WAS STATED FOR THE OPPOSITION. WAS IT WILL BE HELPFUL. IF I SHOW IT TO YOU. THEN TRY AND EXPLAIN IT. AND THE PARKING SPACES IN THE STAFF REPORT. YOU CAN SEE WE HAD THE LISTING OF THE REQUIRED SPACES FOR ALL THREE LINES, THE ONE FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, THEN THE ONE FOR THE OFFICE AND THEN THE ONE FOR THE RETAIL. AND IF YOU ADD IT ALL THREE OF THOSE TOGETHER IT'S A REQUIREMENT OF 25 SPACES,

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AND THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE ALL THE OFFICE AND ALL THE RETAIL IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF SPACE. AND SO EVEN THOUGH IT WAS WAS IN OPPOSITION. IT WAS KIND OF BASED ON AN INCORRECT NUMBER AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY. THEY FELT LIKE THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH PARKING AND THAT'S WHY THAT WAS THERE. BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE WE HAD AND AGAIN STAFF HAD HAD HAD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS. UM BECAUSE OF BOTH THE COMP PLAN AND THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.

MAKING REFERENCE TO MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS AND VIABLE AREAS FOR THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES AND WE FELT LIKE COLEMAN WAS AAA GOOD LOCATION FOR ONE OF THOSE, WHICH IS WHY WE MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION. BUT THAT, UM ALL I HAVE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OR THE APPLICANT IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM, AND AS I MENTIONED, COMMISSIONER IS HERE IF YOU I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT PLANNING COMMISSION ACTIVITY IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE MEETING THANKS TO QUESTIONS FOR MR HOOVER. HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS MIGHT BE MORE FOR HEALING, THOUGH, WHICH I DON'T SEE HIM NOW. BUT UM, HE'S WITH THE FOLKS OUT. YEAH, SORRY, YOU MAY KNOW THE IT'S OK. AND SOMEBODY ELSE MAY KNOW. UM ON THE RENDERING ON CAN I SEE THAT AGAIN? IT SHOWS THE ON STREET PARKING ON COLEMAN. CAN YOU CAN OK, SO I DON'T THINK THAT AREA OF COLEMAN HAS BEEN DESIGNED YET. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. IF HAS THAT PIECE OF COLEMAN. FROM FIRST STREET TO GORGEOUS. I GUESS IT USED TO BE CALLED GORGEOUS. HAS THAT BEEN DESIGNED AND IS, ARE WE ANTICIPATING IF IT HASN'T BEEN DESIGNED? ARE WE ANTICIPATING THERE BEING ON STREET PARKING IN THAT LOCATION? OK? YES SO CURRENTLY, UH, FIRSTLY, WE HAVE DESIGN SOUTH OF HERE FROM YOU KNOW, FIRST STREET SOUTH ON COLEMAN AND A GORGEOUS NORTH OF THE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY DESIGNED, UH, THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE A FUTURE REQUEST TO THE C IP SUBCOMITTEE FOR BOND PROJECT. DOES IT START DESIGNING THIS? UH, WHEN WE DO DESIGN IT, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT IT WILL BE DESIGNED WITH THE ON STREET PARKING THAT THAT JUST MATCHES THE, UH, CURRENT DOWNTOWN INSET THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS A DIVIDED SECTION WITH ON STREET PARKING. THAT THIS IS NOT ANTICIPATED. BEFORE. 2028 TO 2030 CORRECT? YEAH. I WAS JUST WANTING TO CLARIFY. THE OTHER THING. IS THAT ALLEYWAY THAT 20 FT ALLEYWAY? UM, I UNDERSTAND IT'S OWNED BY THE TOWN. AND IT'S UNIMPROVED. IT'S GRASS AND DIRT RIGHT NOW. SO WOULD THE APPLICANT I. I THINK HE REFERENCED IT IN THE LETTER, BUT I DON'T SEE IT IN THE DOCUMENTS. AND WHERE WOULD THAT BE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE DEVELOPER, BUT WOULD THEY PAVE THAT, UH, WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO HAVE THEM PAY THAT, AND IT'S SIMILAR TO KIND OF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MAIN STREET HERE BETWEEN MAIN STREET AND, UH , COLEMAN. THERE'S A COUPLE OF NON STREET WITH DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME IN WHERE WE ALLOWED THEM TO, UH, TO PAY THAT ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY AND USE THAT FOR ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY. SO THAT WE DO THAT SOMETHING SIMILAR HERE. LET THEM PAVE IT IN THAT RIGHT OF WAY, UH, AND CAN UTILIZE IT AS WELL AS THE TOWN UTILIZE IT. YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THAT DUMPSTER RIGHT THERE GOING.

THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK WITH A DIRT ROAD RIGHT THERE, AND THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE PAID.

YEAH WE DEFINITELY WOULD WANT THEM TO IMPROVE IT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL FOR NOW. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE. I'VE GOT QUESTIONS. OK FOR YOU. YEAH AND IT PERTAINS TO THE EMAIL, AND I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND GET AN EMAIL BACK AROUND THE ZONING. I JUST POINT OF CLARITY WHEN IT SAYS PERMITTED USES. MULTIFAMILY. IS NOT STRICTLY A PERMITTED USE WITH THE TWO ZONING UH, ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE DTO AND THE DTO. THAT'S CORRECT.

YES SIR. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE FOR CLARITY. IT'S NOT A PERMITTED USE, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS SEEKING APPROVAL. THIS IS BACKWARDS. I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THAT LAST QUESTION SLIDE IF YOU'D LIKE. I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT. YEAH, IT WAS IN THE OK, SO USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT SO NOT NECESSARILY BY YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE PREVIOUS THERE'S 22 PAGES. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SECONDARY PAGE. THERE YOU GO. WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT? USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT SO JUST POINT OF CLARITY. THE MULTIFAMILY WOULDN'T BE BY RIGHT TO THE ZONING THAT'S BEING REQUESTED. TO WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY IT HAS TO BE A PD

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IS BECAUSE IT ISN'T ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND THE YOU KNOW THE GTO OR THE DTR. AND THE OTHER CONCERN I WOULD HAVE IS, IT GOES BACK TO THE PARKING ISSUE. YOU KNOW, WE 20 SPACES. MARY AND I WERE JUST COUNTING. I COULD COULD YOU POINT THE COUNT TO 20 SPACES? THERE'S 23. IF YOU COUNT DOWN THE ROAD, I COUNT ONLY 19. COULD YOU SHOW ME THE 20 SPACES? YOU CAN'T COUNT THE STREET TELL YOU THERE'S THEN? YEAH. THERE'S 19 SPACES. 10. WELL IT THERE'S 10. DOWN THE RIGHT SIDE. YES SIR . OR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. AND THEN THERE'S EIGHT IN THE GARAGES IN ITS 19. THERE'S THAT THING, INCLUDING THE HANDICAP, SO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE 20. THAT THE CODE REQUIRES 18. YEAH, CODE REQUIRES 18. BUT WE'RE MISSING ONE AND THERE IS THE HANDICAP WHICH IS 19. BUT SO CLARITY ON THE ON THE PARKING, BUT WHERE I HAVE CONCERNS IS AS BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW WITH MULTIFAMILY. TAKE ANY. TAKE ANY FAMILY RIGHT THAT HAS A GARAGE SPACE. TYPICALLY THAT GARAGE SPACE IS STORAGE RIGHT FOR AT LEAST ONE CAR SPOT. UM, IF A FAMILY OF TWO OR THREE LIVE IN A TWO BEDROOM, SAY TWO ADULTS AND A, UH, A TEENAGE DRIVER. YOU HAVE THREE CARS THAT VERY QUICKLY CAN BECOME A PROBLEM IF ONE OF THE UNIT SPACES IS USED AS STORAGE ONE PARKED A CAR AND YOU GOT TWO OF THE CARS. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE MY CONCERN IS INITIALLY. WITH THAT, UM, PARKING AT IT WAS. YEAH AND I LIVE THAT DAILY BUT I, I THINK IN THAT LOCATION IS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME, I THINK ALSO THE UM, WELL, WE'LL GET TO THE TO THE OTHER. I JUST I WANTED TO GET THE CLARITY ON THE PARKING BECAUSE WOW. 20 MAYBE ACCEPTABLE AS IN A PERFECT WORLD. I THINK THAT IT'D BE A IT MAY BE A CONCERN FOR US. APARTMENT QUESTIONS FOR LATER. OK? YEAH, WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT. I THINK ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ONE MORE. I'M SORRY. CLARITY QUESTION ON THE, UM, SETBACK FROM COLEMAN. IT'S 25 FT. CORRECT. COMMON IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICTS. UM THE SETBACKS ARE REALLY PRETTY MINISCULE. SOMETIMES THERE ARE ZERO. SOMETIMES THERE ARE 5 FT.

BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S 5. FT IT'S NOT 25 FT. OH, IT'S 5! FT. OK SO THAT SIDEWALK IS A 5 FT SIDEWALK. IS THAT RIGHT? THE SIDEWALK HAS TO BE THERE AND WITH THAT MEANS IS THE SITE OF A AND EXCUSE ME THE C IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE FRONT CAN SEE THE LINE TO HARD LINE WITH THE CIRCLES AT AT THE CORNERS. THAT'S ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY LINE AND THEN THE SETBACK TO THE BUILDING IS THE 5 FT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT. OK, GOT YOU SO IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE 5 FT. BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY 5 FT FROM THE SIDEWALK 5 FT. FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE, THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THE WAY THAT THE SIDEWALKS SHOW IT, IT'S UP AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE CURVE LINE. BUT THE SETBACKS . SET BACK AS FIVE. PICK UP QUESTION MIGHT BE. HOW FAR IS THE PROPERTY LINE SET BACK FROM THE FROM THE ROADWAY. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE HOW HOW BIG IS THE SIDEWALK? WELL, II. I GUESS I'M GOING ABOUT IT THE WRONG WAY. SO WHAT'S THIS? WHAT'S THE SETBACK? I I LOOKS LIKE 5 FT, AND, UH, ALL STREET PARKING AND WHERE'S THE SIDEWALK FIT IN THERE? OF THE SIDEWALK WILL FIT IN BETWEEN THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY LINE. OK, IT'S THE SAME THING ON BOTH SIDES. I MEAN, SAME SAME, UM, TERM FOR BOTH THINGS AND THEN BETWEEN THE RIGHT OF WAY LINER AND THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE PARKING UM THAT DISTANCE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS, UM, QUITE FRANKLY, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HE WOULD. IF HE'S STILL HERE BEHIND ME, YOU PROBABLY KNOWS WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY WITH IS CO SO WITH THE SIDEWALK BE DONE, SO THE SIDEWALK WOULD ONLY BE DONE.

WHEN THE ROADWAY IS DONE, CORRECT OR WITH THE DEVELOPER PUT THE SIDEWALK IN TO GET ACCESS BECAUSE AND THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THAT IS BECAUSE THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT, YOU HAVE TO PARK IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE APARTMENTS ARE AND WALK AROUND THE FRONT TO ACCESS THE STORES. SO IF THERE'S NO SIDEWALK THERE, YOU'RE WALKING ON GRASS. THERE WILL BE

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A REQUIREMENT FOR A SIDEWALK THAT THAT DOES EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, GOES AROUND THE END OF THE BUILDING AND COMES UP THE FRONT TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE DOORS THAT SIDEWALK THAT WOULD BE BUILT AS PART OF THE BUILDING IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE WHAT THE ULTIMATE SIDEWALK WILL BE BECAUSE OF THE FACTOR DITCHES THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. AND THE ULTIMATE BUILD IS GONNA HAVE STORM SEWER UNDERNEATH. THE DITCHES WILL BE GONE. THERE'LL BE A NEW SIDEWALK. SO ALL THAT SPACE NOW THAT'S DIT TO A WIND UP BEING, UM, PART OF IT, THE EXPANSION OF THE ROAD AND THE PARKING OFF THE ROAD AS WELL AS THE SIDEWALK, SO IT'LL BE. IT'LL BE A SIDEWALK, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE A TEMPORARY SIDEWALK , AND IT PROBABLY WON'T BE AS WIDE AS THE FINISHED PRODUCT WILL BE WHEN THE ROAD GETS DONE. THAT MAKES SENSE. YES IT DOES.

AND THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF CONCERNED BECAUSE I'M THINKING NO ONE'S GONNA WANT TO WALK AROUND ON THE GRASS BLEW UP LIKE A MARK IN THE DITCH. THEY DON'T WANT TO. SORRY IF THERE'S I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, I DIDN'T SEE ON THE ELEVATIONS. THE AC UNITS EITHER ON THE GROUND OR ON THE ROOF. WHERE ARE THOSE? THEY WILL BE SEEN ON THIS ONE. WELL IN BOTH OF THEM. YEAH. YOU SAY THAT THE TOP OF PARAPET SO FROM THE BOTTOM, YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER BECAUSE YOU SEE THERE'S A DOTTED LINE THAT RUNS ACROSS AND SO THAT BASICALLY IS THE HEIGHT OF THE TOP OF THE ROOF TO THE TOP OF THE PARAPET, AND THAT'S WHERE THE, UM EQUIPMENT WILL BE IS SITTING ON THE ROOF AND BE HIDDEN BY THE PARAPET. SO THE DISTANCE TOP OF THE PARAPET IS 26. ROOF LEVELS. 22. SO THE AC EQUIPMENT WILL BE CONCEALED WITHIN THAT 4 FT. THAT IT WOULD WIND UP BEING IN THE MIDDLE. AND SO YOU'VE GOT. YOU KNOW YOUR LINE OF SIGHT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING UP AND MOST AIR CONDITIONERS. THESE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, HUGE BUILDINGS OR HUGE PLACES, SO MOST AIR CONDITIONERS THAT ARE GONNA BE UP. THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE TALLER THAN 4 FT. TALL. AND THEY'LL SIT ON THE ROOF AND THEN THE LINE OF SIGHT WILL PROBABLY ADD AT LEAST ANOTHER. 2 TO 3 FT. BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE MIDDLE OF WHERE THE UNITS ARE. OKAY? WHILE WE'RE ON THIS PICTURE, I'M SORRY TO KEEP ON PILING ON HERE. BUT THESE ARE JUST A LOT OF TIMES, UM, PICTURES DON'T REALLY SHOW THE DEPTH OR CURVATURE. SO IN THE GRAY BRICK VENEER AREA IS THAT CURVED IS THAT FLAT. SO ON YOUR END CAPS. WHERE YOU'VE GOT YOUR YOU GO ON THE END POINTS OF THE BUILDING. I'M I'M ASSUMING THAT'S A FLAT SURFACE. IT'S NOT CURVED. CORRECT. YOU MEAN CURVE LIKE TOWARDS ME ELLIPTICAL. YEAH. BUT. ANYTHING ELSE FROM MR HOOVER. UH, YES. OK, UH, I DO NOT SEE. AND MAYBE I MISSED IT A LIGHTING PLAN. FOR THE BACK DRIVEWAY FOR THE FOR WHERE THE CARS ARE PARKED. THERE ISN'T ONE IS AS PART OF THIS. UM UH UH, PHOTOMETRIC DESIGN IS REQUIRED FOR ANY LIGHTING THAT WOULD GO IN, AND THAT'S TYPICALLY DONE AT THE TIME OF THE BUILDING PERMIT WHEN IT COMES IN. WHERE WOULD THE LIGHTING? I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT RESIDENCES RIGHT BEHIND IT.

WHERE IS THE LIGHTING? GOING TO BE ON THIS THIS PLAN, OR WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT YET. UH, BASICALLY, YEAH, SO THAT'S TRUE. I MEAN, IT WOULD WOULD BE. IT HAS TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE THERE IS NO BLEED THAT GOES TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY LINES. AND THAT'S WHAT THE PETRIC DESIGNED OBVIOUSLY IS FOR AND LIKE I SAID , THAT USUALLY COMES IN AT THE TIME IN THE BUILDING PLAN OR BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS FOR WHEN THEY'RE GONNA DETERMINE WHERE THE LIGHTS ARE GONNA GO. ARE THERE GOING TO BE ATTACHED TO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF, OR, YOU KNOW THEY COULD BE LIGHTS THAT ARE, UH, POLES THAT ARE ON THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AT THE HEAD OF THE PARKING GOING BACK THE OTHER DIRECTION AS FAR AS THE WAY THAT, UM, THEY WOULD BE DIRECTED, BUT BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY THAT'S THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT THAT IS SHOWN AT THIS STAGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OR THE ZONING PROCESS. BUT IT IS A REQUIREMENT. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE LIGHT OF IT IT IT'S ARE YOU? NO, I'M DONE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LANDSCAPING ITEM AGAIN? AND I KNOW THAT TYPICALLY, THESE ARE NOT DISCUSSED. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PD HERE WITH ADJUSTMENT

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IN THE ZONING, SO I MAKE SURE YOU CAPTURE ALL THESE THINGS. SO, I. I SEE THE LANDSCAPING WITH THE CHART. YOU HAD THAT. OH, THE CHART? YEAH, I'M SORRY. WE GO THE WRONG WAY. AND CLOSE.

BUT SOMETHING TO THE CLICKER AND I GOT THE BUTTONS BACKWARDS. NOW I APOLOGIZE. WHATEVER I DID, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION REALLY ON ON THE NORTHERN BOUNDARIES AND WHERE WE WOULD HAVE ORNAMENTAL SHRUBS EVERY 15 LINEAR FEET. THE PROPOSING FOR GROUND COVER VERSUS THAT. AND, UM, WHERE ON SO NORTHERN BOUNDARY GROUND COVERS PROPOSED VERSUS 15 LINEAR FEET. TREES AND SHRUBS. UM IS A IS A VARIANCE AND THEN ALSO IN THE EASTERN BOUNDARY WHERE A LARGE TREE IS BEING PROPOSED, UM I. I JUST I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT REDUCING THE LANDSCAPE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S A BUFFER TOO, AND IT SEEMS LIKE IN SOME CASES, WE ARE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONE LARGE TREE.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? WHY THERE'S POSSIBLE REDUCTION. AND I GO BACK TO THE PICTURE. I CAN GO BACK AND FORTH, BUT CAN YOU TELL? YEAH. ON THE WRONG WAY. THERE WE GO. WE ARE YEAH. UH, IF YOU SEE THAT THE TREES IF YOU LOOK ON THE NORTH SIDE, THERE IS A TREE ON THE NORTH. WEST CORNER. OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER TREE THAT IS OVER BY THE DUMPSTER. SEE THAT ONE. AND THEN THERE ARE THE TREES THAT RUN ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE THE EASTERN EDGE.

THEN WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. THERE'S THREE TREE OR TWO TREES THAT ARE AT THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN ANOTHER TREE THAT'S ON THE CORNER. THEY'RE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. AND THEN THERE ARE THE THREE TREES IN THE FRONT AND PUT ALL THOSE TREES TOGETHER IN THE PROXIMITY THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY MEET OR EXCEED . IN SOME INSTANCES WHAT THAT LINEAR REQUIREMENT IS OF THE TREES. GO BACK HERE. REALLY GOT MYSELF CONFUSED WITH THIS THING.

TO GO BACK. THE TREES ARE REQUIRED. UM ORNAMENTALS OR EVERY 15 FT. UH AND THE LARGE TREES ARE EVERY 20 LINEAR FEET. BUT THE VARIANCE WAS REQUESTING SPECIFICALLY TO THE ISLANDS, NOT LINEAR FEET. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT REDUCING THE LANDSCAPE. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DID BECAUSE IN THE FIRST SECTION OF THE NORTHERN SECTION, THERE'S REMOVAL OF TREES AND GROUND COVER BEING PROPOSED. AND THEN THE OTHER ONES, I. I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS HERE, BUT I JUST WANT TO CALL OUT OF CONCERN AND MAYBE REDUCTION. AND LANDSCAPING SO AND JUST TO NOTE ON HIS THE STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS THEY RECOMMEND AND THAT THEY FEEL THAT THE GROUND COVER AND THE REST OF THE LANDSCAPING IS ADEQUATE TO COVER THAT. THAT'S WHAT STAFF SAYS. YOU STAND BY. STAND BEHIND THAT. I ASSUME.

YES, SIR. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING THANK YOU, MR ALL RIGHT AT THIS TIME, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK. PLEASE COME FORWARD. MY NAME IS MOE. I DEPARTURE. I 130 NORTH PRESTON ROAD PROSPER, TEXAS. WELL I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE AND ALSO TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON. UM SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAS BEEN HAS ALREADY UM I THINK I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE, UH UH, PARKING SITUATION FOR THE RESIDENTS. AND AFTER THE LAST MEETING, I WENT BACK HOME. I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I SAY WELL, IT'S A VALID POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT IN IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE USE THE GARAGES AND THE REASON WHY ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO USE A GARAGE STORAGE IS IF IT'S COVERED, RIGHT, SO IF WE I HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT IF WE JUST MAKE IT A SIGN PARKING FOR THE RESIDENCES, SORT OF HAVING DOOR TO IT THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR ANY POTENTIAL TENANT TO USE IT AS STORAGE. SO THAT MEANS YOU CAN HAVE TWO PARKING THERE. SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, VERY FLEXIBLE IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE I MEAN, BASED ON THE CITY RECOMMENDATION AND SEE, UH IF WE SHOULD PUT A DOOR THERE, OR WE SHOULD MOVE THE DOOR AND JUST MAKE IT A SIGN THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS MEAN THE RESIDENTS WILL USE IT AS PARKING NOT FOR STORAGE. UH, THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW WE COULD PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN. QUESTIONS FOR

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THE APPLICANT. I HAVE A QUESTION KIND OF BASED ON THAT MORE FOR MAYBE STAFF. BUT WHAT DO WE IF THAT WAS IF THAT WAS TO HAPPEN. WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE FOR SOMEBODY TO LEAVE OUTSIDE IN A IN A GARAGE IN AN OPEN GARAGE LIKE THAT IS A IS A GRILL, OK? A BICYCLE OR I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE STACK OF BOXES. I YOU KNOW? ESSENTIALLY MAKES IT A CARPORT. YES AND I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR THIS BUILDING AND THAT WHEN YOU DO YOU REQUIRE THE RESIDENTS TO ONLY PARK CARS IN THEIR IN THEIR GARAGES. IT'S NOT USED FOR STORAGE BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS, YOU CAN GO GET A STORAGE BUILDING DOWN THE STREET SOMEWHERE AND PUT YOUR STUFF IN THAT SO I YOU KNOW IF I THINK IF WE CAN AGREE ON THAT, AND GET THAT SOMEWHERE, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, OR YOU KNOW SOMETHING TO WHERE WE AGREE THAT THOSE WILL BE USED FOR PARKING BECAUSE IT IS A VALID POINT, PEOPLE WILL USE IT FOR TO STORE THEIR CHRISTMAS TREE, AND THEN THEY'LL PARK THEIR CAR IN THE PARKING LOT, SO I'LL PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE. THAT IS, WHY NOT LABEL THE OTHER PARKING SPOTS RETAIL USE ONLY, OR WHAT IF I HAVE ONE CAR AND I WANT TO STORE A BOX IN MY GARAGE? BECOME PROBLEMATIC, SO SURE. AND THOSE UNITS ARE ALSO A MAXIMUM OF TWO UNITS. I MEAN, TWO BEDROOMS. SO UM, I DON'T THINK YOU SEE A LARGE FAMILY COMING TO LIVE IN THERE AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M PRETTY OPEN TO SEE WHATEVER MAKES THE MOST SENSE. AND I THINK THAT EITHER WAY, WHATEVER THE COUNCIL FEEL IS MORE APPROPRIATE, UH, WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT. UM UH AGREEMENT TOGETHER WITH THE TENANT SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THE PARKING SPACE IS, UH, A LOT TO THEM IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT PURPOSE AND NOT TO USE. UH, THE PUBLIC PARKING, UM CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. AND THE OTHER THING, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION. ALSO I KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW ARE THEY GONNA GET INTO THE, UH, THE OFFICE SPACE? ACTUALLY THE SOUTH. I MEAN, THE SOUTHERN PART THAT LITTLE LEAP THAT LITTLE TOM THAT CAME DOWN THAT IS THE LOBBY AND IS STAIRWAY. SO BASICALLY, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW YOU COME IN FOR THE OFFICES. YOU COME IN TO, UH, THAT, UM EASTERN PART, AND THAT'S HOW YOU ACCESS THE OFFICES. THE DOORS THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT, UH, IS BASICALLY LIKE AN EXIT. IT'S NOT LIKE AN EMER EMERGENCY EXIT FOR RIGHT NOW, UM, IF THEY DO PAY, UM WELL, IF THE CITY DO EXPAND COLEMAN AND PUT THE OSTRICH PARK IN, UH EVEN AT THAT POINT IS STILL BEING USED AS EMERGENCY EXIT OR IF AT THAT POINT IF IT MAKES SENSE TO USE THAT, AS IN AND OUT EXIT, THEN YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY. THAT CAN DEFINITELY WAR BOTH. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, UH, WHEN PEOPLE PARK IN, THEY JUST COME INTO THE, UH TO THE EAST, THAT'S HOW YOU ACCESS THE, UM UH, I MEAN THE OFFICE SPACE AND THEN THE STAIRS THAT GOES UP INTO THE RESIDENCES . OK WELL, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT I ADDRESS WITH STAFF PRIOR TO THE MEETING WAS AND I REALLY, I GUESS MISUNDERSTOOD BECAUSE MY FEAR WAS THAT FACING COLEMAN. IT WAS QUOTE THE BACK OF THE BUILDING RIGHT? LIKE YOU SAID.

IT'S AN EMERGENCY EXIT TYPE DOORS, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A STOREFRONT. AND THEN WHEN WE YOU KNOW, SORT OF LOOKED AT THE ELEVATIONS. AS YOU KNOW, IT SORT OF MADE IT LOOK LIKE YOU'VE GOT FOUR DOORS THERE SORT OF MADE IT LOOK LIKE THE STOREFRONT I WOULD PREFER ON YOUR ELEVATIONS. II I REALLY DON'T SUPPORT A BUILDING BACKING TO COLEMAN. I WOULD WANT THE THAT THAT ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING TO LOOK LIKE STOREFRONTS SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN, COLEMAN, YOU KNOW ONE'S A BAKERY. THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR USES ON HERE. YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT WANNA PULL OVER AND POP INTO THE BAKERY VERSUS GOING TO THE BACK AND HAVING THAT ONE ENTRANCE ON ON THE EAST SIDE. SO I MEAN, UM, BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT YOU SUGGESTING, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY FINALIZED WHAT INTERIOR WILL LOOK LIKE THIS IS JUST A SHELL TO KIND OF GIVE AN IDEA. UH, BUT THE I MEAN, THE FACADE WILL BE THE FACADE BUT IN TERMS OF WHERE THE DOOR GOES AND HOW IT SHOULD LOOK, ALL THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED WHEN WE DO THE, UH, THE ACTUAL UH, I MEAN THE ACTUAL BUILDING PERMIT. WE CAN MAKE IT LOOK THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE GO IN AND OUT AND YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN, THE NICER PART, LIKE THE FACE OF THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY THE ONE FACING COMMON BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE GARAGE PART IS THE BACK SIDE OF IT, AND I THINK THE LABELING IS WHAT CAUSED THE CONFUSION IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE SEEN LIKE

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WHATEVER YOU WHATEVER THE MAIN DOOR IS, IS WHERE THE FACE I MEAN, IS IT WHERE THE FRONT IS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT THE FRONT IS ACTUALLY FACING COLEMAN. IT'S JUST THAT THE WE PARKING IS WE HAVE THOSE TWO DOORS, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE THERE. AND THAT'S WHERE HOW THE RESIDENCY. I MEAN, I MEAN, THE RESIDENTS WILL ACCESS. UM, THE UNIT UPSTAIRS. AND I'LL JUST MAKE ONE SUGGESTION AND IN TALL WE DID A, UH, A DEED RESTRICTION AS A PART OF THE PROJECT TO PROHIBIT PEOPLE FROM PARKING. UH, OUTSIDE THEIR CAR, THEIR GARAGE OUTSIDE THEIR GARAGE UNLESS THEY HAD TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE. NOW ENFORCEMENT OF THAT, UH, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. IT WAS BUILT INTO THE HO A DOCUMENTS THE HO A DOCUMENTS. ANY CHANGES IN THOSE HAD TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY. SO IT'S IN THE DOCUMENTS AND YOU KNOW, THE REAL ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY IS THROUGH THE HO, A AND SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, BUT I IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK, BUT THAT'S WAS ONE WAY WE ADDRESSED IT THERE AND, UH IT SEEMS TO HAVE WORKED. OK THERE. I DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A REAL PROBLEM. THEY DON'T HAVE A REAL PROBLEM IN CAPEL WITH THAT FOR YOU. UNITS. THEY TAKE OVER THE HO A AND SO LIKE. THREE OF THEM ARE ON THE HO A BOARD. YES YES, YOU WOULD HAVE THE OWNERS ON THE HO A BOARD BUT AGAIN, AS I SAID, YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE DOCUMENTS WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM THE TOWN FROM THE CITY OR FROM THE TOWN IN THIS CASE, AND SO THE TOWN COULD PRESS THE ISSUE THAT THEY HAVE TO ENFORCE THAT. BUT AGAIN ANOTHER WAY IS SIGNAGE RETAIL ONLY ON THOSE SIDES OUT THERE AND AGAIN OPEN CUT OPEN ACCESS IN THOSE GARAGES. NOT A BAD IDEA. IT'S NOT REALLY CARPORT LOOKS A LOT BETTER, BUT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE WAYS TO OTHER WAYS TO SKIN THE CAT. UH, YOU KNOW PERSONALLY. I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO HAVE, UH, RETAIL WITH RESIDENTIAL ON TOP. VERY VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THAT PULLED OFF IN VERY MANY PLACES.

UH, I THINK YOU KNOW MOST PLANNERS DOWNTOWN PLANNERS LOVE TO SEE THAT ACTIVITY. THIS IS THIS IS NOT GONNA BE A BAKERY. YOU DON'T DO A BAKERY IF YOU GOT TO WALK IN THE BACK DOOR AND GO DOWN THE CORRIDOR TO THE BAKERY. SO YOU'RE NOT? I KNOW, BUT THAT'S THIS IS MORE LIKELY OFFICES AND THE NICE THING ABOUT IT. IT'S GONNA HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON TOP, AND YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OFFICE DOWN, RIGHT BE YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, YES, I DO.

OK, I DO. WHAT USES DO YOU ANTICIPATE? UM MOSTLY IT'S GONNA BE AN OFFICE AS A MATTER OF FACT , UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT SET IN STONE, YET I INTEND TO OCCUPY HALF OF IT FROM MY OFFICE AS WELL. SO IN TERMS OF HAVING TALENT, MAYBE ONE, MAYBE TWO MEAN IT'S ONLY 2500 SQUARE FOOT OF SPACE, SO THAT'S REALLY THAT NOT MANY TENANT THAT WILL POTENTIALLY COME IN THERE. SO I'M THINKING MAYBE ONE. MAYBE TWO. I MEAN, IT'S VERY LIMITED SPACE. SO BUT AT LEAST HALF OF IT WILL BE IN OFFICE. AND THAT I MEAN, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I WILL BE OCCUPYING HALF OF IT. SO I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED LIKE RETAIL AND OFFICE VERSUS MULTIFAMILY. UM AND IF SO, TALK. TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR DELIBERATIONS WITH THAT. YEAH SO, UM, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND WHEN I LOOK FROM THE INVESTMENT POINT OF VIEW, AND ALSO FROM FINANCE POINT OF VIEW, UM IT IS. IT IS A BETTER, UM, INVESTMENT WHEN YOU HAVE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND AN OFFICE , UH, FROM THE POINT THAT YOU KNOW WE GO THROUGH DIFFERENT MARKET SWINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS IN ECONOMY AND EVEN FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE FINANCING, THEY WANNA SEE A BUILDING THAT WILL NOT BE JUST VACANT. BASED ON WHETHER YOU KNOW THE I MEAN THE RESIDENTIAL MARKET IS BOOMING OR THE OFFICE BUSINESS BOMB IN SO IT'S JUST IT'S A LOT MORE ATTRACTIVE IN TERMS OF BALANCING, UM THE POTENTIAL. LET'S SEE OF THE ECONOMY OF THE BUILDING IT IT'S A LOT BETTER.

AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT HAVING MORE OR LESS LIKE A ALL OFFICE SPACE. AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, THE BUILDING NUMBER ONE FOR AN OFFICE SPACE. YOU'RE GONNA NEED MORE PARKING. UH, IF I DECIDE TO MAKE ALL YOU KNOW, UM, TWO STORY THAT MEANS WE'RE GONNA BE RESTRICTED TO JUST PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WITH 350 RATIO AND THAT WILL EVEN CREATE MORE PARKING. CONCERN FOR PEOPLE AND SAY, YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE THIS BUILDING WITH OFFICES, AND YOU ONLY HAVE 20 PARKING SPACES IN A HOW'S THAT GONNA WORK? SO I THINK FOR ME, YOU HAVING PARKING SPACES ALLOTTED TO RESIDENCES MAKE THE MOST SENSE IN TERMS OF INVESTMENT AND ALSO FOR PARKING REQUIREMENT. AND FROM MY ACCOUNT

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. I KNOW THERE WAS A BOOK OF THERE'S 11 PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE, ONE FOR DISABLED, SO IT'S ACTUALLY A TOTAL OF 20. SO WE HAVE TWO EXTRA PARKING SPACES. UM, WHICH WILL BE YOU KNOW MUCH BETTER IN TERMS OF USES. OK, THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. SEEING NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE A COUNCIL DISCUSSION. I'M GONNA GO STRAIGHT TO CHARLES. I THINK HE WAS BEGINNING. THE DISCUSSION POINTS ALREADY. SO I THINK TO SEE PEOPLE. LOOKING SORT OF THINGS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. PARKING MICROPHONE. PARKING CAN BE A PROBLEM AND HOPEFULLY HE CAN ADDRESS FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ADDRESS IT BY RESTRICTIONS. AND OR REQUIREMENTS. PARKING AREA, BUT HE BUT THE LAYOUT IS UNLIKELY TO ACHIEVE A LOT OF HIGH TRAFFIC RETAIL. JUST THE IT'S BUILT. JEFF UM, AND DISCUSSION. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. WHEN I FIRST SAW IT. I WAS REALLY CONCERNED WITH, UM THE HOUSE ON THE SIDE. THE RESIDENTIAL UM SO I DROVE BY THERE. AND TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW AND THAT ALONG WITH THE WITH THE FENCE AND THE TREES, UM I THINK THE LIGHTING IS DONE CORRECTLY WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, UM I DON'T. I DON'T SEE WHY, UM THAT WOULD THAT WOULD CAUSE ANY ANY BURDEN TO THE TO THE HOMEOWNER.

UM AND I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE WE'RE STARTING TO BUILD DOWNTOWN AS SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO. UM SO YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY ON THE NORTH SIDE. WE CAN GET ANOTHER SIMILAR ONE. YOU KNOW SOMEONE COME IN AND SEE THAT AND DUPLICATE IT SO UM I. I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT. UH, I. I DO WISH THERE WAS MORE PARKING. UM I'M CONCERNED ABOUT STORAGE. YOU KNOW, IN THE GARAGE, BECAUSE, UM, EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW I PARKED CARS IN MY GARAGE. I KNOW I GOT STUFF IN THERE TOO. SO AND THE STORAGE UNIT. SO UM, THAT I YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS A CONCERN.

I THINK IT COULD BE AN EYESORE. BUT I DON'T UM I DON'T I. I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO DENY IT.

BASED ON THAT. THANKS. UM I THINK YOU KNOW THERE'S I THINK WE'RE BRINGING A GOOD POINTS.

HERE WE'RE ALL. UM I AGREE WITH CHARLES THAT YOU KNOW THIS. WE WANNA SEE THIS AREA ACTIVATED.

UM AND WE KNOW THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS ALREADY ZONED, UH, FOR OFFICE. UM, JUST HASN'T BEEN ACTED ON YET, UM I THINK WHAT'S THE OFF? PUTTING PART TO ME? IS THE LIST OF USES WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE REALISTIC OR NOT? THEY'RE IN THE PD. AND IT MAKES ME NERVOUS. UM REMINDS ME OF A CONSTANT ISSUE THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN. COLEMAN WHEN WE DISCUSS, UM ANYTHING THAT HAS CUSTOMERS THAT MAY RESIDE FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME. IN THE LOCATION. UM AND I FEEL LIKE WE ALL FEEL LIKE WE MADE A MISSTEP THERE. UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO CORRECT THAT, UM AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S LIMITING THE USES AND ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL IF WE'RE ABLE TO ASK, YOU KNOW TO COME BACK FOR ADDITIONAL VARIANCE, IF SOME OTHER USE WAS NEEDED UM THAT WOULD BE A POTENTIAL IN MY MIND. UM AND ALSO AND THEN I THINK THE ONLY OTHER MAJOR THING IS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE UM, IN REGARDS TO SIGNAGE, UH, LIT SIGNAGE IN PARTICULAR THAT WE LIMIT THAT TO THE COMMON SIDE OF THE ROAD. THE BUILDING AS WELL, CAUSE I FEEL LIKE EVEN OTHER PLACES. WE'VE CAUGHT IT LATER. WHERE YOU WOULDN'T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE PUT A SIGN ON, BUT THEY WERE GOING TO SO THAT'S MY COMMENTS. UM IN GENERAL. I LIKE THE CONCEPT. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS, SO MY ANSWER WOULD BE TO EVENTUALLY. HOPEFULLY A MOTION WOULD BE MADE WITH SOME OF THESE CAVEATS, AND THAT WOULD BE I WOULD WANNA ELIMINATE THE USE OF A BEAUTY SALON BECAUSE, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, YOU CAN HAVE 10 CARS IN A VERY SMALL SPACE. PEOPLE GETTING SERVICES AND WAITING ON SERVICES PLUS YOUR OPERATORS, SO I THINK THAT IS A POTENTIAL ISSUE. THE REASON WHY I THINK IT'S AN ISSUE IS BECAUSE OVERFLOW PARKING IS GONNA GO DOWN SIXTH STREET,

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WHICH IS RESIDENCES AND THEY'RE GONNA BE ANGRY AND THEY'RE GONNA TEXT US AND THEY'RE GONNA SAY WHY DID YOU LET THIS HAPPEN? PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE ALL DAY LONG. AND SO I WANNA ELIMINATE THAT IF WE CAN UM SO I WOULD I WOULD WANT TO TAKE THAT USE OFF OF THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES. UM I DO THINK I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE ABOUT THE GARAGE USES AND THE PUBLIC PARKING USES BY RESIDENTS SO THAT RESIDENTS PARK THEIR CARS IN THE GARAGE AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE OVERFLOW THERE AS WELL. UM I WANNA MAKE SURE SOMEWHERE WE TALK ABOUT UM AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COMES LATER, BUT THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL UM PAVE THE ALLEY THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ON THE TOWN TO DO.

UM I HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC REQUEST ABOUT THE FENCE, WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE ME SEEM PICKY.

BUT I THINK IT'S GONNA LOOK BETTER. AND IT WASN'T MY ORIGINAL IDEA. BUT FROM THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. ALL THE WAY TO WHERE THE PARKING STOPS. UM I THINK OUR REQUIREMENT IS MASONRY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING EIGHT. BOARD ON BOARD, UH, WITH A TOPPER WOOD FENCE. I'M OK WITH THAT. BUT FROM THAT PLACE TO THE 15 FT. TO THE SIXTH STREET. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE WROUGHT IRON, AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN SIXTH STREET , YOU DON'T WANNA BE LOOKING AT THE BACK OF A FENCE AND THEY CAN LANDSCAPE THAT NICELY. I THINK IN FRONT OF THAT, AND I THINK IT WOULD JUST GIVE IT THAT LITTLE BIT OF OPEN SPACE, AND IT'LL LOOK BETTER. UM SO THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC AND KIND OF PICKY, BUT I THINK IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS. UM THE OTHER ONE IS ON THE EASTERN OR THE WESTERN PART OF THE BUILDING THAT FRONTS COLEMAN. I'M GOING TO REQUEST THAT IT LOOK LIKE I DON'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE THE BACK OF A BUILDING. I WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE STOREFRONTS OR OFFICE ENTRIES, EVEN THOUGH MAYBE THEIR EXIT FROM THE INSIDE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT LOOKS LIKE A FRONT FACING BECAUSE EVENTUALLY IF OUR DOWNTOWN BECOMES WALKABLE, SOMEBODY DEVELOPS SOMETHING ON THE NORTH AND YOU'RE WALKING UP AND DOWN THAT SIDEWALK AND YOU WANT TO GO INTO THE STORE OR THE OFFICE. I WANNA MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE THERE. NOT THAT THEY'RE WALKING INTO THE BACK OF LIKE SOMEONE'S RESTROOM OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW. UM SO THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS I KNOW MASONRY IN OUR ORDINANCES IS STUCCO. SO I WANT IF STUCCO IS BEING USED, I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S 10% OR LESS OF THE OVERALL. MATERIALS USED IN THE IN THE BUILDING. AND THOSE ARE MY THOSE ARE MY CAVEATS. SEVEN OF THEM. ABOUT SEVEN. TERRY WAS WRITING THEM DOWN SO YEAH, I. I WROTE SOME OF THEM DOWN. SO, UH, I'M GONNA GO DOWN A MARS RIGHT? SO, MR AD. I HOPE I SAID THAT, RIGHT? BUT UM, I SURE APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING YOUR PROJECT TO PROSPER. UM I THINK YOU KNOW IT'S EXCITING TO SEE DOWNTOWN TAKING SHAPE. UM I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WRAPPING MY MIND AROUND. OUR DOWNTOWN. AND THIS PRODUCT. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW IT. IT'S A GOOD START. I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS. UM FAMILIAR WITH PARKING. UH, I HAVE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ENTRANCES IN THE BACK THAT MAYBE NOT WELL LIT. UM I DON'T KNOW. THAT THIS LOCATION IS THE BEST LOCATION FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT. UM IN MY MIND AND BASED ON YOU KNOW THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. UM, I. I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S A NATURAL. UH, IT TO THE ZONING. I KNOW WE'RE MAKING CUSTOMIZATIONS TO THE ZONING TO ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY, BUT I I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE MULTIFAMILY OPTION. UM FOR A FEW DIFFERENT REASONS, UM I ALSO THINK YOU KNOW, FROM THE FACADE PERSPECTIVE. AND MAYBE IT'S JUST ME. I THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT , UM, SIZES OF WINDOWS THAT GIVES A VERY UM INCONSISTENT LOOK. AND SO I WOULD MAYBE IF THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE GROUP GOES FORWARD UM THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. BUT I JUST I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT PRODUCT FOR THAT LOCATION IN MY MIND, SO FOR THAT, UM, NOT SUPPORTIVE. I APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE PROJECT AS WELL. AND THE CREATIVITY UM I AM A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED OF THE HEIGHT OF THE PROJECT NEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT DOOR, UH OR THE NEIGHBORS NEXT DOOR. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A KIND OF A COMMERCIAL PIECE THAT'S TO THE NORTH OF IT. UM SO I MEAN, THEY'RE KIND OF DEALING WITH IT. EITHER WAY, I REALLY I STRUGGLE WITH IT QUITE A BIT. I.

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I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. KIND OF HOW THAT LIGHTING IS GONNA LOOK AND WHAT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THAT? AND I KNOW WE HAVE A WE HAVE A POLICY THERE. UM AND ALSO ON SECTION 1.2 FOR PERMITTED USES. UM SIMILAR USES IS A VERY BROAD THAT CAN BE A VERY BROAD TERM. SO FEEL LIKE WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE FOR THE RETAIL PIECE VERY SPECIFIC, AND SOME OF IT'S GOING TO BE HEMMED IN BY THE FACT THAT IT IS A SMALLER YOU KNOW, SQUARE FOOTAGE . YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE PEOPLE LEASING THAT SOME SOME USES ARE JUST GONNA BE OUT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S YOU KNOW WHAT IS IT? 2400 SQUARE FEET. ON THE ON THE GROUND FLOOR. AND SO THERE'S NOT A HUGE, HUGE MARKET FOR. I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT SAID THEY WERE GOING TO USE HALF OF THAT SPACE. SO NOW YOU'RE DOWN TO 1200. THAT'S BASICALLY BABY ONE. THAT'S ONE TENANT. PROBABLY NOT, TOO. SO UM I'M NOT TOO WORRIED ABOUT THAT PIECE. BUT I THINK I AM WORRIED ABOUT THE HEIGHT A LITTLE BIT. WHAT UH, WHAT, UM, DEPUTY MAYOR, ROTAN SAID ABOUT THE FACADE IN THE WINDOWS. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE STYLE THAT KIND OF FITTING IN WITH THE AREA A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UM WELL, THAT'S HELPFUL OR NOT, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT TO SOME DEGREE IN THE LIGHTING. THANK YOU. SO I THINK THE ESSENCE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE WHEN WE GROW UP? BECAUSE THIS IS THE TRANSITORY PHASE OF TAKING. PROPERTY DOWNTOWN. DEVELOPERS COME TO US WITH A UNIQUE CONCEPT, UM, MEANING HOW HE PUT IT TOGETHER ON A VERY SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY. THAT, UH TOOK A LONG TIME TO DESIGN AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO SQUEEZE IT IN THERE, JUST RIGHT, SO MY CHALLENGE TO THE REST OF THE GROUP IN TERMS OF IF WE I, I THINK WE SOUNDED LIKE GENERALLY WE WANNA HAVE SOMETHING THERE. OK WE WANNA FIX THE WINDOWS. WE WANNA CHANGE THE LIMITED USES. UH, ALL OF THAT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AT THE END OF I MEAN IT. IS THIS IT? I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE ARE WE WE'RE SEARCHING FOR THAT NEXT STEP IN IN OUR DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT, SO UM WE HAVE SOMEONE HAS ALL OF AMY'S, UH, CAVEATS, AND I THINK WE WANNA ADD MARCUS CAVEAT OF THE, UH, I NEED I NEED MORE SPECIFICS ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE WINDOWS BECAUSE SOME SPECIFICS, PLEASE. YEAH WITH THE FACADE. THE LOOK, AND THEN IT HAS TO COME BACK. I MEAN, YES, SIR. MARIO IS GONNA WEIGH IN REAL QUICK. MAYOR. UH SPEAKING TO THE WINDOWS NOT SO MUCH ON THE FRONT END OF THE WINDOWS, THE WEST SIDE AND MORE ON THE EAST SIDE, SO STEPH AND I WERE TALKING THROUGHOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS ABOUT THE BACKSIDE AGAIN TO ENSURE A LEVEL OF PRIVACY FOR THE ADJACENT OWNERS. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF MR HOOVER WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.

IS IF I IF I COULD. I WAS GONNA ASK IF IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO, UM, MAKE A COMMENT, BUT NUMBER ONE I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS THAT THIS IS GONNA REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WHICH IS GOING TO COME BACK TO IF YOU APPROVE THIS, OBVIOUSLY YOU WON'T SEE IT. IF YOU DON'T THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS, WHICH INCLUDES REQUIRING THE RESIDENTIAL CARS TO BE PARKED IN THE GARAGE. THE SPACES IN THE BACK TO BE RESERVED FOR RETAIL AND OFFICE, SO THAT WILL SOMEWHAT LIMIT HOW THE PARKING WORKS. THE SECOND THING IS THIS IS THE FIRST WE'VE HEARD IN AND BY WE I'M TALKING ABOUT STAFF. ABOUT THE FRONT BEING FAKE DOORS. WE'VE ALL THOUGHT FROM THE BEGINNING THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE THE FRONT. I PERSONALLY AM NOT REALLY KEEN ON THAT. I I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BARTLEY. I THINK THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT OUGHT TO BE. UM IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE FACADES. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM ON YOUR AGENDAS HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF TIMES WITH THINGS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT Y'ALL APPROVED THE FACADE THAT'LL TAKE CARE OF THE WINDOWS. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE LIGHTING BECAUSE UNTIL THE BUILDING ACTUALLY GETS DESIGNED AND THE FENCE AND SO FORTH, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET A GOOD PHOTOMETRIC ON THAT. BUT I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY APPROXIMATE, WHICH WILL GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA OF WHERE THE LIGHTS MIGHT BE. AND THEN, UM YEAH, THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN EASY FIX. AND THEN WHAT? UM MISTER KAZA WAS TALKING ABOUT IS, UM THE BACKS THE EAST SIDES, THE, UM MORE THAN LIKELY TO THINK

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ABOUT HOW EVERYTHING IS PROPORTIONED THE STAIRS GETTING UPSTAIRS AND THE STAIRS TO GET UPSTAIRS TO THE HALLWAY THAT GOES INTO THE APARTMENTS, THE BACKSIDE WHICH WOULD BE THE EAST SIDE. IS ALMOST CERTAINLY GONNA WIND UP BEING THE BEDROOMS AND THOSE BEDROOMS CAN HAVE THE STYLE OF WINDOWS THAT ARE UP AT THE TOP. LIKE YOU SAY IN A LOT OF CONTEMPORARY AND EVEN FIFTIES ART DECO TYPE BUILDINGS SO YOU CAN'T LOOK STRAIGHT OUT THE WALL OR STRAIGHT OUT THE WINDOW INTO ANYBODY'S YARD, BUT IT STILL LET'S IN NATURAL LIGHT, BUT IT ALSO GIVES YOU MORE WALL SPACE FOR YOUR FURNITURE. THAT'S IN IN THAT ROOM, AND SO WE COULD ALSO REGULATE THAT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, OR YOU KNOW IT CAN BE DONE THROUGH THE PD. BUT I THINK DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MIGHT BE EASIER WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE THERE. SO THOUGHT ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. I WON'T TELL YOU.

WE THOUGHT ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL BROUGHT UP, BUT I THINK THEY'RE ALL SWIMMING COUNCIL DECIDES THAT IT'S A POSITIVE THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT I DON'T THINK CAN'T BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH IT SO GET A BRIEF COMMENT, SO I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WHAT WE WANT TO BE ONE GROW UP. UM FIRST GETTING ON COUNCIL. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS COME BEFORE ME THAT YOU KNOW. HAD GREAT ADVICE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WAIT FOR WHAT'S RIGHT. AND IT'S HARD TO SAY THIS IS THIS MAY BE THE RIGHT THING. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE THERE. YET WITH ALL OF THE PUSHBACK AND THE FACT THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS GOING TO BE AN ENTRANCE IS CONCERNING TO ME. I WOULD ALMOST MAYBE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. NOT YET A MOTION BUT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE TABLE THAT TO YOU. HAVE THE ABILITY TO TALK THROUGH ALL THESE. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF ITEMS ON HERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH. AND IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE ENOUGH DUE DILIGENCE ON SOME ITEMS THAT ARE CORE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT WOULD MAYBE BE A RECOMMENDATION. AND I WOULD ALMOST MAKE A MOTION. BUT ALMOST I. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME DELIBERATION THAT COMES ON THAT. RIGHT NOW. I UH, I AND IF. COUNCIL.

BECAUSE II I NEVER CHARLES, WE HANDED YOUR MICROPHONE. THANK YOU. I HAD THE PERCEPTION ON THE FACADE ON COLEMAN. THAT YOU ALL MIGHT WANNA SEE THAT BEFORE SIGNING OFF ON JUST HAVE A FACADE PLAN THAT LOOKS LIKE SHOPS. SO I'M LOOKING AT I ONE THING I WANTED TO CHECK ON THE PARKING ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE. I HAVE THE NOTE. IT DOES DESIGNATE THAT AS OFFICE RETAIL PARKING ONLY MOLLY QUESTION WOULD BE IS IF SOMEONE HAS PEOPLE OVER TO THEIR PROPERTY. WHERE WOULD THEY PARK? UNLESS WE HAVE OUR I MEAN AGAIN, THAT'D BE CERTAIN HOURS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE I THAT WAS ONE QUESTION. UM THE NOT USING THE PARKING THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING FOR STORAGE, I THINK AND PUT THAT IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. UM I UNDERSTOOD NO LIE TO ASK THE LIE TO SIGNAGE SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE COMMON STREET SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. UM AND THEN LOOKING AT THE FACADE ALONG COLEMAN UM IT WAS. IT WAS ONE OF OUR TYPICAL BUSINESS RESEARCHER. I THINK WE DID THIS IN IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE WE ELIMINATED NAIL SALONS AND BEAUTY SALONS AND THAT AS A PERMITTED AS AN AUTHORIZED BUSINESS. UM REQUIREMENT OF THE DEVELOPER, PAVING THE ALLEY. I WOULD ASSUME IT BE PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT. I? WHATEVER YES, SIR. THAT'S THE WAY THAT WORKS. IF YOU'RE GONNA USE IT HAVE TO PAVE IT AND THEY HAVE TO USE IT TO HAVE THE CIRCULATION THE TWO WAYS IN AND OUT FOR FIRE AND ALL THAT, SO UM THEN STUCK OPEN BEING LIMITED NO MORE THAN 10% OF FACADES. UH, I.

I WASN'T AMY. I WASN'T QUITE SURE ON THE ON THE FENCING I KNEW WROUGHT IRON FENCING IS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARK I SOUTHEAST CORNER WHERE THE FENCE STOPS OR WHERE THE PARKING STOPS REST IS WROUGHT IRON FENCE. I SAY THAT RIGHT, THANK YOU. SO, BASICALLY WHERE THAT, UH ISLAND IS AND THE TREE. PARKING SPOTS WOULD BE SCREENED FROM HERE BY THE FENCE AT THE

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BOTTOM OF THE PARKING UH OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. OK, A ON BOARD. OK? THEN WROUGHT IRON FROM THERE. SOUTH, OK, WOULD BE WROUGHT IRON OK? SO I MEAN, THERE WAS ALSO ONE OTHER, UH SOMEBODY SAID CONCERNED ABOUT A SIMILAR ITEMS. OR IN THE IN THE IN THE WORDING IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. IF I REMEMBER IT WASN'T IN THE DRAFT. IS STANDARD ABOUT A SIMILAR USES. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IT, IT'S UP TO YOU PHRASE THAT'S IN OUR OUR ZONING ORDINANCE FAIRLY FREQUENTLY, FOR INSTANCE, AND I'VE USED THIS EXAMPLE A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW. ICE CREAM SHOP IS ON HERE IS A PERMITTED USE BY RIGHT SOMEBODY CAME IN AND SAID, I WANT TO DO ICE CREAM. I WANNA DO COOKIES.

SO THAT PHRASE ALLOWS ME TO LET THEM DO THE COOKIE SHOP, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO AMEND THE PD, WHICH TAKES THREE MONTHS TO PROBABLY BE ABLE TO GET THE COOKIES OUT. SO THAT'S ALL THAT IS. IT HAS TO BE CLEARLY A SIMILAR USE. NOT YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT IT HAS MOST OF THE SAME LETTERS IN IT OR SOMETHING SO THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S REASONABLE. I THINK YOU WOULD BE LIMITED ANYWAY. OK, SO WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION? THAT MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE WITH THE FACADE ALONG, COLEMAN IS MAYBE BRING BACK SOMETHING. FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT RATHER THAN TRYING TO DESCRIBE IT BY WORDS. AND THEN GO. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ENVISION. THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT WITH ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES, THESE OTHER ISSUES THAT WOULD MEAN TO TABLE IT. I THINK MARCUS WAS SAFE ABOUT CONSIDERING MAKING A MOTION. MR MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE. I WOULD SECOND THAT I HAD A MOTION TO SECOND ALL IN FAVOR WE NEED WE NEED THE DATE. I HEARD AMY, SAY, APRIL 16TH SORRY. FOR CLARITY. ALL RIGHT, SO THE MOTION IS TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL APRIL. 16TH WE HAVE A MOTION BY MARCUS RE SECOND BY CRAIG ANDRES ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU, AND TO THE APPLICANT ALSO, UH, NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM

[14. Consider and act upon authorizing the Town Manager to execute an Amendment to Participating Member Contract between the Upper Trinity Regional Water District, and the Town of Prosper, Texas, related to subscribing for additional wastewater treatment capacity associated with the expansion of the Doe Branch Water Reclamation Plant. (CE) ]

NUMBER 14, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT. AMENDMENT TO THE PARTICIPATING MEMBER CONTRACT BETWEEN A TRINITY REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT AND THE TOWN OF PROSPER , TEXAS RELATED TO SUBSCRIBING FOR ADDITIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT CAPACITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE D BRANCH WATER RECLAMATION PLANT.

AND WE ARE GOING TO DISPENSE WITH THE, UH PRESENTATION THIS EVENING AND I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE REFER THIS PARTICULAR ITEM BACK TO OUR C IP AND FINANCE COMMITTEES. SO DO WE NEED TO DO WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT OR WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY ACT. OK, I'D ASK THE COUNCIL FOR A MOTION TO SO MOVED. THANK YOU, 2ND AND 2ND, CHARLES COTTON AND, UH, CHRIS KERN ALL IN FAVOR. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALSO. YEAH. WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE TO

[15. Discuss and consider Town Council Subcommittee reports. (DFB) ]

THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS AGENDA ITEM 15. TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE TOWN COUNCIL SUBCOMITTEE REPORTS AND OUR DOWNTOWN COMMITTEE HAS MET. WHO MARKS. YOU LIKE TO GIVE THAT ONE. I THINK THE UPDATE FROM THE DOWNTOWN COMMITTEE IS WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW ITEMS THAT ARE GETTING SOME GOOD TRACTION. UM PARKING LOT DESIGN, UH, WAS KICKED OFF. UH, IT'S EXCITING TO HEAR WE'VE GOT THE BENCHES IN OR THEY'RE INSTALLED YET, BUT I HEARD THAT THEY'RE BEING CONSTRUCTED. SO THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. UM I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WERE HAVING, UM, THROUGH THE 21ST, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN LAST WEEK, THE BEDS FOR THE ARCHES. OK? FIVE RESPONSES FANTASTIC AND THEN WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM PAINTING THE POSTS, AND I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED AS WELL. THAT SAME WEEK, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT FROM A TOWN PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS. AND THAT ALL RIGHT, THANK THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE DOWNTOWN COMMITTEE WANT TO ADD TO THAT? OK? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS TO POSSIBLY DIRECT TOWN STAFF TO SCHEDULE TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE MEETING, AND I'M GONNA THROW A COUPLE OF THEM OUT THERE. UH FOR US. I'D LIKE TO REVIEW THE PANHANDLING ORDINANCE THAT WHATEVER THAT IS, IF WE HAVE IT IN PLACE UH, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A REPORT BACK FROM UH, BOTH HE AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE ON THE FRONTIER. FRONTIER STATE ISSUE, AND I KNOW THAT,

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UH, STAFF IS WORKING WITH THE STAFF OF SALINA TO PUT FORWARD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO TECH DOT SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT AS WELL AS ENFORCEMENT. AND THEN A THIRD ONE, WHICH MAY BE AN ODDBALL ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN EXPLORE EXPLORATION OF THE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE OR MIGHT NEED TO HAVE FOR DRONE OPERATIONS FOR RETAIL DELIVERY. YES YES. SO, UH HOW WHAT DO WE HAVE ANY ORDINANCES IN PLACE THAT WOULD PREVENT IT? WHAT IS A BEST PRACTICES AND, UH AND ANY OTHER IDEA SO THAT'S A THAT'LL BE THE CHALLENGE TO YOU. CITIES THAT OUT THERE. WALMART DELIVERIES OF THIS NATURE AND I, I WOULD TELL YOU. THEY'VE BEEN CHALLENGED BY OF THE BIG RETAILERS. BUT WE SURE I'LL BE HAPPY TO PREPARE SOMETHING. AND YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO BE, UH THINKING ALONG THIS LINE. SO UH, WITH THAT, I, I ASKED THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IF THEY HAVE OTHER ITEMS FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION. SEEING NONE. UH, WE WILL NOW RECESS INTO CLOSED

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

SESSION AND COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 551.001 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT TO DELIBERATE REGARDING SECTION 551087 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES. ALL MATTERS. INCIDENT RELATED THERETO SECTION 551.072 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES AND ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED THERE TO SECTION 551.074 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PERSONAL MATTERS AND ALL MATTERS. INCIDENT R. THERE, TOO. SECTION 551.074 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PERSONAL MATTERS, INCLUDING THE ANNUAL EVALUATION OF THE TOWN MAN MANAGER AND ALL MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED THERE TO TIME NOW IS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Mar 26, 2024 Town Council

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