[1. Call to Order / Roll Call.]
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EVENING. WELCOME TO THE MARCH 5TH 2024 PLANNING AND ZONING. UH, REGULAR MEETING THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:02 P.M. ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING. ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION. THOSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION MUST COMPLETE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
REQUEST FORM LOCATED ON THE TOWN WEBSITE OR IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IF YOU'RE ATTENDING IN PERSON, PLEASE SUBMIT THIS FORM TO THE BOARD CHAIR, A STAFF MEMBER PRIOR TO THE MEETING. WHEN CALLED UPON, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ITEM NUMBER TWO THIS EVENING IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IF EVERYONE WILL PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE.
TO APPLY FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IT'S JUST FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, THE VISIBLE REPEATING INJUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS ITEM NUMBER THREE
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THIS EVENING IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. WE HAVE ITEMS. THREE A THROUGH THREE J. BUT, UH, PRIOR TO THE MEETING, I WAS NOTIFIED BY TOWN STAFF THAT WE ARE GOING TO TABLE ITEMS 3D. THREE E AND THREE F AND WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THOSE ITEMS INTO THE MARCH 19TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. SO NO ONE THAT 3D 3 E AND THREE F DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE TABLING THOSE ITEMS? DO DO WE NEED TO MAKE A VOTE TO TABLE THOSE THREE ITEMS TO THE NEXT MEETING? OR IS IT JUST MY STATEMENT? SO TAKE IT. OH, OK, SO IT MAY NOT BE ON THE NEXT MEETING. OK SO, UH, PLEASE NOTE WE'LL NEED TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE ITEMS 3D 3 AND THREE F, WITH NO DATE NOTED. WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, THE OTHER ITEMS WE HAVE THIS EVENING. OR ANYTHING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WANTED TO PULL REGARDING ANY OF THE OTHER CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THIS EVENING. AND IF THERE'S NOT SO WE'LL ENTERTAIN TWO MOTIONS THIS EVENING FOR THOSE CONTINGENT ADAMS BUT ALSO THE SEPARATE MOTION AND VOTE FOR 3D 3 AND THREE F BEING TABLED. TO A FUTURE MEETING. SO IN WHATEVER ORDER WE GET, THOSE IS FINE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THREE ABC GHIJ. OK, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FROM COMMISSIONER HAMILTON DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HARRIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PROVING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THREE A THREE B THREE C THREE G THREE H, THREE I AND THREE J SUBJECT TO TOWN STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THE MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE 3D 3 E AND THREE F. LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 3D 3 E AND THREE F. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER HAMILTON TO TABLE 3D 33 F. DO WE HAVE A SECOND A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JACKSON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING 3D 3 AND THREE F. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THE MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CITIZEN COMMENTS. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ANY TOPIC. HOWEVER THE COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA. PLEASE COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT, REQUEST FORM AND PRESENT IT TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE MEETING.AT THIS TIME. DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT NEED TO COME FORWARD OR IN ANY UH, COMMENT CARDS FOR DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. WE DO WE HAVE ONE, OK? JUST KIND IT JUST CAME IN. OK, IS THIS ON A AND I THINK IT'S ONE OF SO IT'S ONE OF OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE YEAH, YES. OK SO WE'LL WE'RE GONNA HOLD THAT FOR THE MEMBER THAT FILLED UP THE, UH, COMMENT FORM. WE'LL HOLD THAT TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE THIS EVENING HERE IN A FEW MOMENTS.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS AS THEY CARDS. IF NOT LET'S MOVE TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. AGENDA ITEM
[4. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider and act upon a request to rezone 0.3± acres on Prosper Central Addition, Block 1, Lot 1 from Single Family-15 to Planned Development–Downtown Office to allow multifamily, office, and retail uses. (ZONE23-0029)]
NUMBER FOUR. THIS IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A REQUEST TO RESOLVE 0.3 ACRES. ON PROSPEROUS CENTRAL EDITION BLOCK ONE BLOCK ONE FROM SINGLE FAMILY 15 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN OFFICE TO ALLOW MULTIFAMILY OFFICE AND RETAIL USES. LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF COLEMAN STREET AND SIXTH STREET. THIS CASE IS ZONED DASH 23-0029. ALL[00:05:03]
RIGHT, UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. SO THE ITEM THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST, UH, TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM SINGLE FAMILY 15 TO DOWNTOWN OFFICE. UM HERE'S WHERE THE SITE IS AT. IT'S ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SIXTH STREET AND COLEMAN STREET.UM SO YOU CAN SEE THE SURROUNDING AREA TO THE NORTH IS , UM, AN OFFICE BUILDING PD 112.
THAT'S ALSO IN DOWNTOWN OFFICE. UM TO THE EAST. IT'S A RESIDENTIAL HOME, UM, ZONE SINGLE SINGLE FAMILY 15 TO THE SOUTH. IT IS ZONE COMMERCIAL. BUT CURRENTLY THERE IS A, UM RESIDENTIAL HOME ON THERE AND THEN TO THE WEST. IT IS ON DOWNTOWN RETAIL AND IT IS VACANT. UM SO THE PROPOSAL IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR MIXED USE BUILDING THAT WILL HAVE A MULTI FAMILY COMPONENT OFFICE AND RETAIL AH, HERE IS A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE LAYOUT OF, UH, THE PROPOSAL. SO FOR SOME OF THE PERMITTED USES THE BASE ZONING IS, UH, LIKE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IS GONNA BE DOWNTOWN OFFICE. UM AND SO THE USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THIS PD WILL BE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, SLASH MEDICAL AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. UH, BANK SLASH SAVINGS AND LOAN CREDIT UNION, UH, WITH NO DRIVE-THROUGH COMPONENT, UH, BEAUTY SALON SLASH BARBERSHOP BUSINESS SERVICE. UH, INSURANCE OFFICE. MINOR DRY CLEANING. DROP OFF. ONLY MINOR PRINT SHOP DROP.
DROP OFF. ONLY UH, MULTIFAMILY THAT IS ONLY PERMITTED ON THE THSECOND FLOOR AND RETAIL STORES AND SHOPS. UM I BOLTED THE LAST TWO ITEMS, THE MULTIFAMILY AND RETAIL STORES. UH, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY NOT PERMITTED IN OUR DTO DISTRICT. BUT FOR THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, STAFF IS DETERMINED, UH, THAT THOSE ARE, UH, APPROPRIATE USES FOR THIS SITE. UM SO THE PARKING COUNT, UH BY USE MULTIFAMILY IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES TWO SPACES PER UNIT. UH, FOR OFFICE. IT'S ONE SPACE PER 350 SQUARE FEET. UH, FOR RETAIL. IT'S ONE SPACE PER 250 SQUARE FEET. AND THE APPLE HAS PROVIDED 20 SPACES. UH, ONLY 18 WOULD BE REQUIRED. THEY HAVE FOUR MULTIFAMILY UNITS, WHICH MEANS THEY NEED EIGHT SPACES. UM, THOSE ARE ALL IN ENCLOSED GARAGE ENCLOSED GARAGES. UM AND THEN I ONLY SHOWED YOU THE RETAIL BREAKOUT BECAUSE THAT'S THE MORE INTENSIVE USE, UM, JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT? HOW IT THAT THEY HAVE THE ADEQUATE PARKING. UM EVEN IF YOU DON'T INCLUDE THE, UM, ENCLOSED GARAGE COMPONENT. FOR THE LANDSCAPING. UM, THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE DOWNTOWN REQUIRES A 5 FT LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ON EACH PROPERTY LINE, UH, WITH THE ORNAMENTAL TREE AND SHRUB EVERY 15 LINEAR FEET. UM, WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED IS THEY HAVE PROVIDED THOSE 5 FT LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ON EACH PROPERTY LINE. UH, HOWEVER, FOR THE NORTH AND SOUTH, UM THEY'RE GONNA DO GROUND COVER JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONDENSED OF THE, UH, THE SITE IS PRETTY CONDENSED , UM, AND THEN ALSO ORNAMENTAL TREES AND SHRUBS ON THE EAST AND WEST PROPERTY LINES. UM AND HERE IS KIND OF THE CHART THAT DETAILS THAT, UM ONE TO POINT OUT ON, UM ON THE LANDSCAPING, SO WE KIND OF TOOK PRIORITY FOR ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, A FENCE AND THEN THERE'S ORNAMENTAL TREES AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, ADJACENT TO THAT RESIDENTIAL PORTION. UM WE FELT LIKE SHRUBS WEREN'T APPROPRIATE BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T EVEN BE ABLE TO SEE THEM WITH THE FENCE THERE. UM BUT WE DID FEEL LIKE THE TREES WOULD NEED TO BE THERE TO BE SCREENED. UM AND THEN THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO PROVIDED SHADE TREES, UM, ALONG COLEMAN STREET AS WELL. UM OUR LANDSCAPE DEVELOPMENT PLANNER RECOMMENDED ORNAMENTALS, BUT THEY'RE PROVIDING SHADE WHICH, UM, WE DON'T TYPICALLY WE DON'T HAVE A PREFERENCE. UM, WE'RE FINE WITH MORE TREES. UM AND THEN FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. UM IT'S JUST GONNA GO BY THE DOWNTOWN OFFICE. UH, THE BUILDING MATERIAL. THAT'S 92% MASON EXCLUDING GLAZING. UM, 80% OF THAT WILL BE BRICK, UM, 12% OF THAT WILL BE STONE. HERE. KIND OF WHAT THE RENDERINGS WILL LOOK LIKE. UH, AND IN CONCLUSION, UH, THIS CASE WAS NOTICED FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 23RD. THERE WAS NO CITIZEN RESPONSE AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. UM AND WITH THAT, I WILL NOW TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FOR ME. BACK TO THE I CAN. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE RENDERING, UM, THE GARAGES, SO THAT'S A COMPLETELY ENCLOSED GARAGE LIKE WITH THE GARAGE DOOR, OR IS IT LIKE THE WAY IT IS? THERE'S GONNA BE A GARAGE DOOR OVER THOSE, UH, IT WAS COMPLETELY ENCLOSED, MOSTLY ENCLOSED. YEAH. NO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY ENCLOSED. THANK YOU. ON THE EAST SIDE. YOU MENTIONED A FENCE IS THE DEVELOPER BUILDING A FENCE? THE FENCE IS ALREADY THERE. UM THERE'S A WOODEN FENCE ALREADY THERE. AND SO THAT'S A LOT OF THE REASON WHY WE DECIDED THERE WASN'T SHRUBS NEEDED BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T EVEN SEE THE SHRUBS. UM BUT WE DECIDED TREES WERE NEEDED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO KIND OF LANDSCAPE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT. BUT THERE IS AN EXISTING WOOD FENCE ALREADY THERE. AND I KNOW THERE WASN'T A PUBLIC COMMENT DECIDED FOR QUESTION ONLY IS THE HOMEOWNER NEXT DOOR. HAVE THEY BEEN IN CONTACT OR INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION AT ALL? OR YOU KNOW, I WOULD DEFER TO THE APPLICANT JUST IN TERMS OF IF THEY REACHED OUT, BUT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE FOR THEM POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE ABOUT THE CASE. THANK YOU. MCCY THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH,
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ON THE FENCE. THAT'S THERE ON THE NEXT TO THE RESIDENCE. HOW? HOW TALL IS THAT FENCE? THAT'S EXISTING. I BELIEVE IT'S 6 FT. TALL. IT'S A WOODEN FENCE. IT'S A WOODEN FENCE. IS AND THEN CAN I? I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. THE RENDERING THE ELEVATION. AGAIN. NOW THE T ACCORDING TO OUR PACK AT THE TOP ONE IS A WEST ELEVATION. THAT'S INCORRECT. AND THAT ISN'T THAT THE EAST ELEVATION. NO, THE WAY THAT PLANS THEY'RE BACKWARDS. NO I. I THINK IT IS THE, UM LOOKING TO THE THAT'S THE WEST ELEVATION ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING. BUT IT'S THE WEST FACE OF THE P.IT'S JUST HOW ARCHITECTURAL PLANS ARE DONE. THAT'S A GOOD CATCH, THOUGH. ALL RIGHT. LET ME ASK AGAIN ABOUT THE, UH ENCLOSED , DID YOU I? I MISSED THAT A LITTLE BIT. DID YOU SAY THAT? THESE, UH GARAGES ARE ENCLOSED, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE THEY ARE ENCLOSED. THERE'S A GARAGE DOOR LIKE JUST A REGULAR REGULAR GARAGE DOOR THAT'S CLOSED. YEAH, THAT WILL BE OVER IN CLOSING THE PARKING SO I GET ON THE ON THE ELEVATION. THAT'S ON THE BOTTOM. THERE IS THAT, UM IS AND I CAN'T TELL FROM THE DRAWING. BUT IS THAT ARTICULATION? YEAH, THERE WE ARE. THAT'S GOING ON THERE WITH THE DIFFERENT COLORS YOU KNOW, AND THE BRICKS AND STUFF IS THERE IS SOME ARTICULATION GOING ON THERE? YEAH THERE IS ARTICULATE. I DON'T THINK THE COLOR SPECIFICALLY DEFINED THAT.
BUT YEAH, THERE IS ARTICULATION GOING ON WITH THAT, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT COLOR THE MATERIALS WILL END UP BEING, UM CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT YET. THAT'LL COME IN WHEN THEY FACADE PLAN COMES IN. UM BUT THIS BUILDING IS ARTICULATED. AND ARE THESE DOOR? THESE ENTRY DOORS? HERE ARE THOSE ENTRANCES INTO THE OR IS THIS THE BACK? THIS IS THE BACK OF THE FOR THE BOTTOM IS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. SO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING FACES COLEMAN? YES. IF YOU CAN SEE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE GARAGES WILL BE HERE ON THE INSIDE, AND THEN THE BACK WILL BE TOWARDS COLEMAN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JUST TO CLARIFY. WE ARE ONLY REVIEWING THE CHANGED TO DOWNTOWN OFFICE. WE ARE ACTUALLY REVIEWING SITE PLAN OR ANYTHING TONIGHT, RIGHT? YEAH. NO IT'S JUST THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN. YEAH, BUT, UH, IT'S JUST THE PERMITTED USES IN THE ZONING BUT NOT THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN THAT'LL BE STAMPED OUT LATER. SO ON THIS ONE TO THE RIGHT. OUR BIGGEST TV. EAST IS THE OFFICE. PARKING IS THIS JUST A REPRESENTATION? THIS IS NOT AN ACCURATE THERE WON'T WILL THERE. THERE WILL ONLY BE I DON'T KNOW. WAS THIS EIGHT OR NINE SPOTS? UH, THIS IS 11. SO IF YOU SEE HERE, THERE'S UH EIGHT SPOTS ENCLOSED, UM, TWO FOR EACH UNIT AND THEN ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE'S 11 SPACES. AND THEN THERE'S ONE HANDICAP SPACE ON THE WEST SIDE. UM SO THERE'S 12 SPACES TOTAL. UM THEY WOULD ONLY NEED 10 IF THE SITE DEVELOPED FULLY AS RETAIL. UM, SO THEY'RE PROVIDING TWO MORE SPACES IN WHAT'S REQUIRED SO THEY'D HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING, EVEN NOT INCLUDING THE ENCLOSED GARAGES, BUT THE ENCLOSED GARAGES ARE STRICTLY THEY'RE STRICTLY FOR THE RESIDENTS. YEAH AND THE PARKING, UH, THE OPEN PARKING TO THE EAST. THAT'S THAT'S FOR THE OFFICE IN RETAIL OFFICE AND RETAIL. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED TO BE? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED TO WORK IN THIS OFFICE BUILDING? IS IT GONNA BE A VERY SMALL OFFICE OR I ASSUME THEY'RE GOING TO BE SMALLER. JUST BECAUSE OF THE, UM THE SITE IS SMALLER, BUT BASED ON OUR PARKING RATIOS. SO THE OFFICES ONE SPACE FOR 350. THE RETAIL IS ONE SPACE FOR 250. SO THE THAT 2450 SQUARE FEET IS THE , UH, SPACE OF ALL, LIKE THE FIRST FLOOR THAT COULD DEVELOP HIS OFFICE OR RETAIL. UM AND SINCE RETAIL IS THE MORE INTENSIVE USE, I JUST DID THAT CALCULATION TO SHOW YOU THAT NO MATTER HOW THE SITE DEVELOPS, THEY'D HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING.
AND GO BACK ONE SLIDE. JUST. ONE YEAH, WE'RE PROBABLY ALL MAYBE ASKING THE SAME THING MULTIFAMILY AT THE BOTTOM. IF WE APPROVED IT, THIS IS USES ALLOWED BY RIGHT SO YOU'RE SAYING IF WE APPROVE THE ITEM, AS IS THEY WOULD WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO MULTIFAMILY ON THE SECOND FLOOR ONLY IN DOWNTOWN OFFICE. YES, CORRECT. SO THE REASON WHY I JUST ADDED, THAT IS JUST TO PUT A DISCLAIMER THAT TYPICALLY THOSE USES AREN'T PERMITTED IN DTL LIKE IF IT WAS JUST STRAIGHT ZONE D. THOSE BOTTOM TWO USES WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED. BUT BECAUSE OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND WE THOUGHT THAT, UM IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE. WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED THOSE, UH, USES PERMITTED BY RIGHT AS WELL. SO YOU YOU GUYS ARE IN S. I SAY IN SUPPORT, BUT YOU GOT YOU'RE OK WITH THE INTERPRETATION THAT IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS TO HAVE MULTI
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PANEL AND SECOND FLOOR THAT WOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH KIND OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, AND IT WOULD BE OK IN THIS, OK. DO WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE RETAIL STORE ASPECT ON THIS? KNOWING THAT WE'VE HAD THE, UH, THE OTHER CASE RECENTLY OFF COLEMAN AND UH, YOU KNOW THAT WENT THROUGH, AND THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THAT RETAIL STORE WOULD DEVELOP. I MEAN, DID DID Y'ALL TALK ABOUT THAT? I KNOW WE'VE GOT THE AFRICA COMING FORWARD HERE IN A MOMENT, BUT WE CAN ASK, BUT YEAH, AND THAT WAS TOSSED AROUND. CONCERNS ARE ABOUT LIMITATIONS ON THAT OR OR BECOMING SOMETHING THAT MAYBE IS NOT FAVORABLE IN THIS AREA. YEAH, AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SO I MEAN, COS OBVIOUSLY SET THAT PRECEDENT OF WANTING THESE COMMUNIST P DS. UM AND SO WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT. UM WE SAID DT, AND WE LISTED ALL THESE AS ALLOWED IN THERE. THEY KIND OF PICKED WHICH ONES THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE APPROPRIATE. WE PITCHED WHAT WE PICKED, WHICH ONES WE THOUGHT WERE APPROPRIATE AND KIND OF WORKED ON A COMPROMISE WITH THAT , SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND KIND OF ELIMINATED A DECENT AMOUNT OF USES. UM AND YOU GUYS AS WELL, IF YOU DON'T THINK SOME OF THESE USES ARE APPROPRIATE, UM, LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION TO MAKE SURE THESE IT WOULD BE ONE OF THESE SPECIFIC USES IN THE RETAIL STORE. WOULD THAT BE A CORRECT STATEMENT? UH YEAH, IT WOULD PROBABLY JUST BE THE RETAIL STORE AND SHOPS USE IN THE RETAIL STORES. ALL THOSE OTHER ONES ARE PRIMARILY, UM, OFFICE ONES, EXCEPT FOR LIKE THE BEAUTY SALON AND BARBERSHOP BUSINESS SERVICES, YOU KNOW, INSURANCE BUT DRY CLEANING. I GUESS I MAYBE I'M MAKING MORE OF THIS THAN I IN THE RETAIL STORE ASPECT. I JUST DON'T WANT US TO GET DOWN THIS PATH AGAIN. AND SEND THIS TO COUNCIL AND GET THIS QUESTION ON THE RETAIL STORE ASPECT. UH AND SO WE, WE CAN TALK THE A AND FIND OUT IF THERE'S A LITTLE MORE DEFINITION AROUND THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT, BUT I THINK THAT I WAS ON THE SAME LINE. FOR DOING SO.LET'S THOSE ALL FEEL LIKE RETAIL STORES AND SHOPS. SO WHY WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT, AS OPPOSED TO THE ONES ABOVE? WELL UM, SOME OF THOSE USES IN THE DTO. UM SO LIKE THE RETAIL STORES AND SHOPS. IT'S NOT PERMITTED, UM, IN DETAIL, BUT THE OFFICE THE ADMINISTRATIVE MEDICAL OFFICE, BANK SAVINGS, UH, BEAUTY SALON. UH, OUR BEAUTY SALON, UH, BUSINESS SERVICE INSURANCE OFFICE. MINOR DRY CLEANING PRINT SHOP. THOSE ARE ALL ALLOWED IN THE DTO. UM AND SO WE FELT LIKE SINCE IT SPECIFICALLY STATES RETAIL STORES AND SHOPS, AND IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE DETAIL. WE PROBABLY HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THERE IF THERE'S GONNA BE RETAIL COMPONENT BECAUSE THOSE OTHER USES AREN'T TYPICALLY JUST RETAIL ON THEIR OWN. SO THESE ARE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND. WHAT THE DETAIL. UM THESE TWO USES THE MULTI FAMILY AND THE RESOURCE RETAIL STORES AND SHOPS. EVERYTHING ELSE IS TYPICALLY PERMITTED IN THE DETAIL. SIMPLY APPROVED IT, AS IS THERE OTHER RETAIL STORES AND SHOPS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED? LET'S JUST SAY, ICE CREAM STORE. THE ANSWER IS, YES. AND THE REASON THAT THAT WE HAVE THE RETAIL LISTED IS GOD MAY REMEMBER THERE'S AAA SPECIFIC LIST OF THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL DOESN'T ACTUALLY LIKE. THERE'S ABOUT NINE OR 10 THINGS ON THAT LIST. THEY ALL FALL UNDER SERVICE CATEGORIES, SO THEY DON'T REALLY FIT UNDER THE RETAIL CATEGORIES. AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW RETAIL THINGS THAT THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY LISTED . AND YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO INSTRUCT US, QUOTE UNQUOTE TO COME UP WITH A SPECIFIC LIST. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT, BUT WE THINK BY SPECIFICALLY STATING RETAIL AND AUTOMATICALLY LIMITING ALL THOSE SERVICE, UM INDUSTRIES, THEN IT'S DOING WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS. AND I I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND TELL YOU THAT THE COUNCIL MAY NOT ASK THE SAME QUESTION AND YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AND THEY MAY HAVE ONE OR TWO THINGS THAT THAT THEY CHANGED. IF IT'S NOT ON THERE. IT CAN'T HAPPEN IF THEY WANT THE RETAIL TIGHTENED UP A LITTLE BIT MORE I. I THINK YOU KNOW THAT WOULDN'T BE THAT HARD TO DO, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S AAA PRETTY LARGE RANGES OF RETAIL. YOU COULD HAVE A JEWELRY STORE. THAT'S THERE. I MEAN, THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT FIT IN A RETAIL THAT ARE NOT THE SERVICE ORIENTED. BUT AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT THAT YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO SPECIFICALLY LIMIT THAN WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH. I THINK THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD AND TALK TO THE APPLICANTS. UM, KIND OF GET A BETTER FEEL WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, AT THIS TIME. APOLOGIZE SOMEONE ALREADY ASKED US HAVE HAS THE DEVELOPER ALREADY STATED. THEIR INTENDED USE FOR THE RETAIL. DO THEY HAVE? THEY ALREADY STAYED IN THAT? NO THEY HAVEN'T STATED WHAT SPECIFIC RETAIL JUST THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THAT INCLUDED AS PART OF THE PD. SO SO I THINK WE WE'LL WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD HERE IN A SECOND, SO THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH
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THAT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR OF THIS EVENING AND AT THIS TIME OF THE APPLICANTS HERE THIS EVENING AND WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY. ANYBODY WHO COMES FORWARD THIS EVENING. JUST MAKE SURE YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. HEY, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MO. I REPORT YOU AND THE APPLICANT. IN YOUR ADDRESS. UM MY ALMIGHTY OR BUSINESS OFFICE. UH EITHER ONE. MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 130 NORTH PRESTON ROAD, PROSPER 75078. OK? THANK YOU. WELCOME. THANK YOU. SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD ON? UH WELL, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME. I THINK DAKARI PRETTY MUCH DID IT, UM, WHAT THEY INTEND TO USE FOR THE PROPERTY? UM AND I JUST WANNA SEE IF THERE'S ANY CLARIFICATION AT ALL. SPECIFICALLY UM, A FEW FOLKS WERE ASKING IF THE DEVELOPER EXPRESSED SOME PARTICULAR UM NEED AND I WANT TO JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. I CAN ANSWER RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I APPRECIATE YOUR DEVELOPMENT AND PROSPER. I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ON UNDER THE RETAIL STORE CONCEPT. KIND OF WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? WHAT KIND OF RETAIL STORE ARE YOU? WELL, THANK YOU AND WOULD GO IN THIS FACILITY.SO UM, WHAT I'M THINKING IS, UM, THINGS LIKE, UM, YOU HAVE A MUSIC STORE THAT YOU KNOW, THEY SELL PIANO OR, YOU KNOW, A SAXOPHONE THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I ALSO THINK ABOUT, UH, THINGS LIKE JEWELRY STORE. UH, JUST, UM, SMALLER, UM RETAIL STORE. THAT IS NOT. IT'S NOT LIKE A KROGER OR, YOU KNOW, HB. WE DON'T HAVE SPACE FOR THAT. SO PROBABLY GONNA HAVE ONE OR TWO TENANTS BECAUSE WE ARE LIMITED TO THE 2400 SQUARE FOOT, SO DEPENDING ON WHAT THE APPETITE IS, WHEN PEOPLE START COMING AND INQUIRING ABOUT THE SPACE WE JUST WANNA HAVE, YOU KNOW MORE.
I MEAN, NOT JUST THE OFFICE SPACE, BUT THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SMALLER. RETAIL THAT MAY WANT TO BE THERE. BUT AT THIS TIME, REALLY DON'T HAVE A DON'T HAVE A EXACT TENANT IN MY I DON'T HAVE A TENANT YET. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. YES, THANKS FOR THAT DETAIL. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING, SO ESSENTIALLY, SECURE THE PROPERTY AND IT'S UP IN THE AIR. IN TERMS OF I, IT'LL DEPEND ON WHO APPROACHES YOU TO LEASE THE SPACE AND WHAT THEIR INTENTION IS FOR THE, UH, FOR THE FOR THE SPACE THAT THEY LEASE, AND I'M THINKING MAYBE ONE OR TWO TENANTS. UH, IF I PUSH IT 310 I MEAN, IT'S ONLY 20 LESS THAN 2500 SQUARE FEET, SO THERE CAN ONLY BE SO MUCH YOU CAN PUT IN THERE ANYWAYS. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT? HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT DOING, UM, OFFICE OFFICE SPACE UP UPSTAIRS INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL NO. YEAH. SO ON THAT MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT HOW I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE KIND OF REVIEW AGAIN FOR THE FOR THE COMMISSION HERE. HOW MANY MULTIFAMILY UNITS AGAIN AND IN WHAT SIZE SQUARE FOOT. ARE WE LOOKING AT ON EACH OF THOSE MULTI FAMILIES, SO WE'RE LOOKING AROUND 1000 SQUARE FOOT FOR EACH SO, UM, YOU KNOW, 11 TO 222. I MEAN, TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE IN AN OFFICE.
UH, WE HAVEN'T REALLY COME UP WITH A FINAL PLAN. UM FOR HOW THAT WILL BE LAID OUT, BUT, UM, BASED ON THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, UH, NO MORE THAN TWO FOR SURE. BUT IT'S GONNA BE BETWEEN ONE AND TWO, BUT TOTAL FOUR UNITS. IF YOU VIEW THIS AS A FROM A MULTIFAMILY PERSPECTIVE, YOU VIEW IT AS A PREMIUM PRODUCT AS FAR AS THE PRICING AROUND THAT, UH, WHAT? WHAT KIND OF CLIENTELE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? SO MUCH OF A PREMIUM UNIT? I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE AREA. I THINK A TWO BEDROOM DOESN'T REALLY GO MORE THAN 15 $1800 A MONTH, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANYTHING. PRE MAMMAL SORT. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, UH, THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. YOU ASK COMMISSIONER. THANK A LOT, RIGHT? SO WE'LL APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING AND, UH, DEVELOPING AND PROSPER AND, UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO IT'S OPEN FOR ANY MEMBERS THIS EVENING IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM TO STEP FORWARD AT THIS TIME IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS ON NUMBER FOUR. ALL RIGHT BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYTHING ELSE THAT, UH, WHILE WE'RE IN PUBLIC HEARING THAT ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO BRING UP AT THIS TIME AND THEN WE CAN TALK AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, TOO. BUT ANY OTHER
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QUESTIONS? OK, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND I'LL TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. FOR DISCUSSION. UH, ON THIS A SO THANKS, MR CHAIRMAN. I AM JUST BACK TO THE LIST OF RETAIL THERE IS THERE MAY. IS THERE A DEFINED LIST OF RETAIL? USES THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE BY ORDINANCE. I WOULD TELL YOU. IT PROBABLY BE BETTER IF YALL ARE WANTING TO TIGHTEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE DID THAT, AS OPPOSED TO, UM, LEAVING IT, I. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEING RETAIL STORES BECAUSE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES HAVE DESCRIPTIONS AND DEFINITIONS LIKE SERVICE AND SO FORTH. BUT I, I CAN'T SIT HERE AND TELL YOU THAT SOMEBODY COULDN'T COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAYBE BE SOMETHING Y'ALL WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE THERE. SO IF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, I THINK YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE BETTER TO ELIMINATE RETAIL STORES AND SHOPS AND HAVE SORT OF A DEFINITION. WHETHER IT'S JEWELRY STORES AND, UH BOUTIQUES , SHOPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF THAT EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY. IF THAT BETTER FITS. WHAT WHAT YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS AND IT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO POINT THIS OUT FOR FUTURE THINGS IS THE WHOLE IDEA FOR DOWNTOWN DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS TO HAVE SORT OF A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT AND WE DON'T HAVE A SINGLE ZONING DISTRICT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT ALLOWS RETAIL AND MULTIFAMILY SO YOU CAN'T REALLY GET THERE FROM HERE WITHOUT DOING SOMETHING. LIKE THIS, AND SO WE THINK THIS IS KIND OF A GOOD FOOTPRINT TO GET IN SO TO SPEAK, BUT BUT AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH LIMITING THE RETAIL. BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT HAVING THE MIX WITH THE MULTIFAMILY UPSTAIRS WOULD WOULD BE A GOOD PRODUCT. THEN WE GO THROUGH SOMETHING SIMILAR. WHEN WE, UH IN THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY GOT THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY DISTRICT GUIDELINES AND WE PRETTY MUCH CREATED. I THOUGHT AT THAT TIME. COUNCIL, SORT OF CREATED AND WE PROVE WE ALL APPROVE SORT OF A LIST OF BUSINESSES THAT WE DID NOT WANT TO SEE. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU FOUND YOUR AND THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT THE SERVICE IS.COULD WE NOT JUST TAKE THE NO LIST FROM THAT? AND APPLY THAT HERE UM, WE NOT JUST TAKE THE NO LIST THERE APPLY THAT THERE BECAUSE I WOULD SAY 98% OF WHAT WE ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT TO SEE WOULD BE ON THAT LIST. SURE WE COULD. BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT ON THE LIST NOW IT'S ALREADY NOT PERMITTED. BUT IF YOU WANT SPECIFICALLY THE LIST THEY ARE SAYING THESE ARE NOT PERMITTED. WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT. SO THIS IS MORE A LIST OF SO INSTEAD OF SAYING YOU. YOU CAN PUT X AMOUNT OF BUSINESSES OR SERVICES HERE. EXCEPT THIS. WE'RE SAYING YOU CAN ONLY PUT WHAT IS ON THIS LIST. AND THIS IS WHAT WE AND THIS IS THE LIST. IT IT WOULD IT BE SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO THE USES ALLOWED BY RIGHT RETAIL. THE ONLY THING THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD WOULD COULD POSSIBLY BE ADDED THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST. NOW WOULD BE, UM WHAT EXACTLY CONSTITUTES RETAIL OR SHOP AND TO US. UH WE BELIEVE THAT THE SERVICE INDUSTRY USES ARE OUT. BECAUSE THEIR SERVICE THEY'RE NOT RETAIL WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEFINITIONS ON THE PERMITTED USE CHARTS AND THE OTHER TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE THINK WOULD COME UP WITH WITH RETAIL AND SHOPS. YOU KNOW, WE KEEP SAYING THE SAME THING SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT YOU KNOW, JEWELRY BOUTIQUES. UH MAYBE EVEN FLORIST. I MEAN, YEAH. YOU KNOW THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, BUT I THINK IF WE ALL ARE GOING TO FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, BECAUSE IF WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL I'M REASONABLY CERTAIN I'M GONNA HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL SO I'D RATHER TRY AND COME UP WITH A MORE A FINE. THE CRUX OF WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT IF WE I'M SORRY.
I JUST WANTED TO GET THIS POINT. WE NEED TO PUT A LIST OF WHAT WE WILL NOT PERMIT SPECIFICALLY IN RESPECT TO RETAIL STORES. CORRECT. WE HAVE TO PUT A LIST TOGETHER OF THE TYPES OF RETAIL USES THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE END RESULT IS THE SAME. BUT TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE PUT THE LIST OF WHAT YOU CAN DO. AND IF IT'S NOT ON THE LIST, YOU CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE HUNDREDS OF THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE THAT ARE NOT LISTED THAT ARE THE CAN'T. SO COULD WE NOT HAVE THE COULD WE NOT HAVE THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A LIST. OF
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INTENDED USES, AND THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT LIST AND DETERMINE WHICH ONES WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH. AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M ASKING BECAUSE THERE'S A MILLION THINGS WE CAN HAVE. I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT? WHAT HIS INTENTIONS ARE FOR THE SPACE IF HE HAD A LIST OF WHAT HE WAS THINKING. IT WOULD SAY, WELL, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S WHAT THE THREE OF US AND THEN JUST LET US GO THROUGH THE LIST. AND WE CAN SAY WHICH WHICH OF THOSE THINGS WE DON'T WE AREN'T COMFORTABLE WITH. AND THEN THAT COULD BE DONE. I MEAN, YOU COULD. I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. SO I THINK IN THAT, UH WE KNOW THAT, UH TOWN COUNCIL IS GOING TO VET THIS OUT FURTHER. FOR SURE. IN THE REASON WE'RE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS IS BECAUSE WE PASSED A SIMILAR CASE HERE IN THE TOWN COUNCIL SET IT BACK TO GET MORE DEFINITION AROUND THE RETAIL STORE CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION? SO UH, YOU KNOW, TO MOVE THIS FORWARD THIS EVENING.I DON'T KNOW THAT WE GET INTO SPECIFICS OF DENIAL OR APPROVAL, OR IF WE JUST SAY IF IT GOES FOR APPROVAL, AND WE SAY, SUBJECT TO MORE DISCUSSION OR CONVERSATION OR DEFINITION AROUND RETAIL STORES. UH, BECAUSE, UH, WE COULD BE HERE. YOU KNOW AND I. I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME OF PREPARATION OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING TO LIMIT THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE GETS EVEN READY THIS EVENING TO GIVE US A LIST, BUT WHAT ARE YOUR, THOUGH I JUST THINK THIS RETAIL STORE CONCEPT IS VERY OPEN ENDED IF WE LEAVE HERE PASSING THIS THIS EVENING. AND SO WE CAN KIND OF NARROW THAT DOWN AND CLOSE IT AND IT GOES TO COUNCIL AND WITH THIS CONVERSATION DOCUMENTED, SAYING, HEY, THERE NEEDS TO BE A LIST OF APPROVED. THESE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE APPROVED FOR A RETAIL STORE. THIS. WE DON'T DO THIS NOW. IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY. WE'RE GONNA DO THIS 2030 40 MORE TIMES BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT ALL OF DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO BE. WE JUST HAD ONE OF THESE COME THROUGH ONE AND DEPARTMENTS AND THE AND THE AND THE RETAIL UNDER IT. AND THERE WAS IT WAS SO IF YOU WERE A MEMBER OF THE ONE THAT WE HAD WAS A STRAIGHT ZONING, AND THAT'S IT CAME BACK CANCELED, DENIED IT, AND THAT'S WHY IT CAME BACK TO Y'ALL BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE P DS FOR JUST THIS REASON TO HAVE BETTER CONTROL OVER THE EXTERIOR, THE MATERIALS , THE SPECIFIC USES OF WHAT COULD BE ALLOWED, AS OPPOSED TO THE WHAT IFS THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED. SO Y. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. I MEAN, II, I SEE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN.
WE CAN CAN EITHER WITH COUNCIL. I MEAN, SO ME EITHER. ENOUGH TABLE IN IT. HAVE YOU TALKED TO MO? CAN WE TABLE IT? ARE YOU OK? STILL NOT. WE NEED THAT MUCH OF A BIG DEAL TO ME. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST, UH, NARROW IT DOWN. I MEAN, I'M NOT GONNA GET A BIG STORY. EVERYBODY PUSHING CARTS IN THERE. YOU KNOW , IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANYTHING LIKE THAT OF SORTS. SO, UM IF THE RETAIL STORE IS THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. I MEAN, I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAVE THE BEAUTY SALON AND BARBERSHOP. THINGS LIKE THAT ALREADY DEFINED IN THERE. SO IF WE NEED TO HAVE THINGS LIKE A FLOWER SHOP, OR MAYBE, LIKE A MUSIC STORE OR WHATEVER, AND JUST LEAVE IT LIKE THAT AND JUST REMOVE THE OLD RETAIL COMPLETELY, I THINK WITH THAT. SO IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THE RETAIL AND SHOPS CHANGE IT TO JEWELRY, STORES AND FLOWER SHOPS AND LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND THEN IF THE COUNCIL WHEN WE GO TO THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE HAD TIME TO TALK WITH MO AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO ADD IN THERE THAT THE COUNCIL COULD PUT IN WE'RE OK WITH THAT IF Y'ALL ARE OK WITH THAT, AND IT SEEMS LIKE MO'S OK WITH THAT. WELL, DAVID, I THINK I THINK IT GOES TO WHAT AMY ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT. WITH THE FAMILY FRIENDLY. UH, RETAIL IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND IT'S MAKING SURE THAT IT'S ALL FAMILY FRIENDLY, RIGHT? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE STRUCTURE THAT , BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT. I THINK IT IS MAKING SURE BUSINESSES THAT ARE FAMILY FRIENDLY BY BY BUSINESS, RIGHT AND I THINK WE KNOW THOSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING THROUGH. RIGHT. WE JUST DID RIGHT NOW. I MEAN BY THE LETTER OF YES. RETAIL STORE COULD BE UN RIGHT. YEAH, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO COUNCIL AND ALL THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT I SO I. I THINK, I WOULD WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO COUNCIL IF WE CAN. I MOTION.
THAT SALES. FLOWERS. WELL WE'RE NOT. WELL, LET ME THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT. I MEAN, YOU KEEP GOING TO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS PRO DEVELOPMENT AS WE CAN. SO WE DON'T WANNA ADD A SPECIFIC USE OF JEWELRY AND WHATEVER WE'RE TRYING TO SAY, HOW DO WE? HOW DO WE GET IT FORWARD TO LEAVE IT OPEN ENDED SO THAT YOU CAN GO TO COUNCIL WITHOUT FAMILY FRIENDLY LIST, I THINK IS WHAT WE'RE ALL IT'S ALMOST LIKE RETAIL STORES
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FOR THIS AREA NEEDS A DEFINITION. HERE'S EVERYTHING THAT'S PERMITTED, AND IT'S OUTSIDE THESE TWO OR THREE THAT WE'VE TOSSED OUT TONIGHT. THERE'S A LOT IT COULD BE A 50 FOR ALL I KNOW. SO UP TO NOW. AND SO THAT THAT'S THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, ION THINK IS DEFINING WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE RETAIL STORES STREAMLINED IT, DAVID III. I CAN. I CAN TOTALLY APPRECIATE THE NEED. FOR, UM SPEED IN THIS SITUATION. YOU WANNA GET GOING? MY ADVICE WOULD BE TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME AND DETERMINE BECAUSE IF WE JUST APPROVE TO USES, SO WE SAY JEWELRY STORES AND F AND THAT IS IT SIX MONTHS DOWN THE LINE YOU MIGHT GET YOU MIGHT FIND YOURSELF. HAMSTRUNG AND NOT ABLE TO REALLY DEVELOP YOUR BUSINESS BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER USES THAT I THINK WOULD BE PERFECTLY FINE WITH US AND WITH COUNSEL OUTSIDE OF JUST THE FLOOR FLORIST AND, UM UH UH, JEWELRY STORE AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME OTHER KIND OF PIECES OF YOUR PLAN THAT I THINK NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IRONED OUT. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD. YOU HADN'T QUITE GONE THROUGH THAT PART YET, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE. IT MIGHT BE EARLY IN THE PROCESS. BUT WHEN YOU GET TO COUNCIL, THEY'RE GONNA ASK SOME VERY DETAILED QUESTIONS ABOUT A LOT JUST LIKE WE ARE HERE AND I WOULD I THINK YOU WOULD BENEFIT A GREAT DEAL FROM HAVING TIME WITH STAFF TO THINK THROUGH THOSE ANSWERS AND INSTEAD OF HAVING THINGS SO OPEN ENDED BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR AS TO WHAT YOUR VISION IS, BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP US AND JUST LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER CARLSON WAS SAYING WE WANT TO GIVE WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DEVELOP YOUR BUSINESS AND WE WANT TO HELP YOU SO YES. I MEAN, WHAT? I, UM SO JUST TO KINDA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACK STORY. SO, UM, I'VE BEEN WE'VE GONE TO DIFFERENT VERSION OF THESE THINGS. SO WE'VE BEEN A YEAR AND A HALF INTO THIS BEFORE WE EVEN SUBMIT, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE JUST STARTED, YOU KNOW? YEAH JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND I THINK THAT WHEN IT COMES TO, UH WHAT WE CAN OR CANNOT DO, I THINK THAT, UM WE WANNA DO SOMETHING THAT THE CITY LIVES AND ALSO SOMETHING THAT HIS FAMILY FRIENDLY AGAINST THE FACT THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY COME A LONG WAY BEFORE, BECAUSE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A LOT OF HARD NOES IN PLACE. BUT NOW THAT WE DO WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FOLLOW THROUGH THAT. UH, BUT RIGHT NOW, UM FOR THE ARCHITECT TO EVEN CONTINUE TO DO WHAT? BECAUSE I'M A SMALL DEVELOPER. RIGHT SO EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY, RIGHT? SO UH, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO AS IT IS, RIGHT NOW IS SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, THE CITY IS WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THAT POINT. THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF LIKE TO STOP AT THIS JUNCTURE TO KIND OF SEE. OK WE'RE GONNA DO FOUR UNITS UPSTAIRS. WE'RE GONNA DO I GUESS FOR ME RIGHT NOW WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER FAMILY FRIENDLY BUSINESS. SO IF WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE TO YOUR POINT, I DON'T WANNA BE LIMITED TO 23 TENANTS IN FUTURE, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING, IF YOU ALL HAVE A LIST OF FAMILY FRIENDLY, UM, UH, BUSINESSES THAT WE CAN PUT ON THERE. ARE MORE WE CAN EVEN CHANGE IT RIGHT NOW TO FAMILY FRIENDLY SHOPS. AND WHEN YOU GUYS COME UP WITH THE LIST, AND WE JUST ATTACH IT TO THAT, AND IT GOES TO CANCER, BUT IT'S JUST THAT FOR ME RIGHT NOW, I'M LOOKING. IT'S NOT LIKE I'M TRYING TO RUSH THINGS ALONG, BUT I'M 18 MONTHS INTO IT, AND I WANNA START DOING SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE SIDE SO THAT BY THE TIME COUNCIL APPROVED, AT LEAST WE'LL HAVE THE PRELIMINARY PLANS FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT US. SO WHEN WAS THIS GOING TO COUNCIL? ORIGINALLY. SO IT WAS GOING TO THE COUNCIL ON TWO TO GO BACK AFTER OUR NEXT PNC. ALL OF YEAH, SO? SO SO, SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR BEST INTEREST HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA HAVE YOU HAVE LIMITED OPTIONS HERE, WHERE WE I THINK THE TOWN NEEDS TO GO BACK AND PROVIDE A LIST OF DEFINITION WATER ACCEPTABLE RETAIL STORES, RIGHT FAMILY FRIENDLY RETAIL STORES. SO I GUESS THAT IF WE TABLED IT GO REWORK THAT. WE COULD STILL GET IT. GO THROUGH IT IN TWO WEEKS, AND IT COULD STILL GET TO COUNCIL THIS MONTH. ROCCO THE FOLLOWING WEEK. CAN I MEAN WOULD I MEAN IT STILL KEEPS YOU ON THE SAME AS THE SCHEDULE? I THINK SO, II. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD WIN WIN HERE AND WE LET US WE WILL LOOK OUT FOR YOU. AND IF WE CAN GET IT MORE IRONED OUT NOW IT'LL GO A LOT QUICKER, POTENTIALLY THROUGH COUNCIL. SO APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH, SO I GOT ONE MULTIFAMILY. WE COULD ADD AS 100% AUTO APPROVED, BUT YOU KNOW THAT I HAD A ONE QUESTION ON THE MULTIFAMILY[00:40:06]
PIECE. NOT SO MUCH FOR HIM JUST MORE OF A DEFINITION. I KNOW. HE MENTIONS FOUR UNITS ON THE TOP.DO WE LIMIT THAT AT FOUR UNITS DOES MULTIFAMILY B BY DEFINITION , LIMIT THE NUMBER OF UNITS OR NOT SAYING OUR GENTLEMAN WOULD DO IT? BUT COULD IT END UP BEING 20 UNITS? AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WELL IT YEAH, IT DOESN'T LIMIT THE SPECIFIC NUMBER I THINK IS SQUARE FOOTAGE LIMITS THE NUMBER MORE THAN UM, WHAT CAN BE PROVIDED? WELL, BECAUSE WE HAVE IT ON THE FOR ONLY SO THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT HE COULD DO SO I MEAN, HE COULD GO OVER FOR, BUT EVEN WITH THERE'D BE PARKING IMPLICATIONS AND ALL THAT WITH THE SITE BECAUSE IT'S SO CONDENSED, UM SO IT BEING IN HIS BEST INTEREST TO STICK WITH FOUR BECAUSE I JUST DON'T SEE HOW IT WORKS WITHOUT THAT. YEAH, WE CAN PUT A MA. BUT YOU COULD PUT A X ON IT. YEAH THAT COULD ALSO BE IN THE LANGUAGE. AGAIN IT'S KIND OF WHAT WHAT IT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT A QUESTION OR WE CAN, BUT COULD WE COULD WE LIMIT IT AT FOR WOULD THEY BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT WHERE THEY WOULDN'T? WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT. WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO A YES. OK YEAH, MAXIM. GOOD THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER. RIGHT SO REGULAR ITEM NUMBER FOUR. I'M GOING TO TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION. I THINK WE'RE ALL ON A SIMILAR THOUGHT PROCESS. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM FOUR THIS EVENING. AND MAYBE WELL, I GUESS IS EVERYONE ALIGNED ON DEPENDS ON WHAT THE MOTION IS. WELL EVERYBODY ALIGNED ON THE RETAIL, WHATEVER WHATEVER, AND THEN ALSO THE MULTI AT TOP. I UP WITH MY THING? I THINK I'M I'M SAYING WE'RE OK, COMING BACK FOR TWO WEEKS, BECAUSE EVEN WHEN WE TABLING PEOPLE AREN'T ALLOWED STILL THE TRUE? YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK AND SPIRIT AND NOT WASTING HIS TIME WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. WHAT I WOULD ASSUME IS THE DEVELOPER WILL WORK WITH STAFF. YES AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE A GOOD RESOURCE BUT LEVERAGING THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY GUIDELINES, WHICH HAS A LIST OF ACCEPTABLE USES, AND I THINK IT DOES KIND OF GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL IN THE RETAIL EXCEPT THE RETAIL USES. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD START. UH, FOR THINGS THAT AREN'T ALLOWED AND ARE ALLOWED I. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, DOCUMENTATION OF A LIST LIKE THAT. SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE TO START. AND SO THE NEXT TIME WE MEET IN ON THE 19TH, I'M NOT MISTAKEN. IT'LL BE ON THE 19TH. YOU WOULD HAVE A DEFINED LIST THAT YOU'VE GONE OVER WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT WE CAN THEN PROVE YEAH. IS THAT THE ONLY STICKING POINT? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA TABLE WE'RE GONNA OR WE WILL VOTE. I THINK THE NUMBER OF UNITS OF THE FOUR UNITS SO THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA COME BACK TO US ONCE YOU'VE GONE OVER, OK, SO I. I HAVE A RANDOM PROCEDURAL QUESTION JUST FOR OUR EDUCATION BECAUSE WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT THESE IF WE COME UP WITH THIS LIST, AND THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT COMES UP, THINGS EVOLVE RIGHT AND HE WANTED TO COME BACK FOR A DIFFERENT USE. THAT WASN'T PERMITTED. WHAT WOULD THAT PROCESS BE? I'M SAYING IN SIX MONTHS, HE GETS A TENANT AND IT DOESN'T TECHNICALLY MEET WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. I'M JUST KINDA CURIOUS. YOU HAVE TO COME BACK AND AMEND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. UM IN THAT CASE WOULD COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU. UM SO IT WOULD JUST BE LIKE WE'RE MENDING THE PD TO ALLOW THE YOU BUT I HAVE TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS IN TOWN COUNCIL, SO NOT A HUGE DEAL. IF IT WAS LOGICAL AND APPLICABLE. IF YOU DIDN'T IT WOULDN'T BE A HUGE DEAL. IT WAS ACTUALLY TWO WAYS TO DO THAT ONE IS ALWAYS TO COME BACK AND AMEND THE PD. THE SECOND IS THERE'S A PHRASE THAT'S PRETTY COMMON THAT RUNS THROUGH OUR REGULAR ZONING ORDINANCE THAT SAYS IF THE USE IS CONSIDERED SIMILAR TO WHAT IS DESCRIBED BY THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THEN IT CAN BE ALLOWED. SO IF YOU HAD AN ICE CREAM STORE, AND THEY WOULD DECIDED THEY WANTED TO PUT IN A COOKIE STORE. THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE. I THINK, AND SO THAT COULD BE APPROVED, EVEN THOUGH IT TECHNICALLY WASN'T ON THE LIST, AND WE MIGHT WANT TO JUST ADD THAT PHRASE TO COVER THAT BECAUSE TO MAKE THEM COME BACK THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION TO MAKE THEM COME BACK TO HIM IN THE PD A COOKIE STORE, I THINK WOULD WOULD BE A LITTLE BURDENSOME. NO I JUST IT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME WHERE THEY SAY WORDS MATTER, RIGHT? AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE TRYING TO BE PRO. YOU KNOW, PRO DEVELOPER HERE. I THINK AS LONG AS YOU GUYS ADD IT FOR US, AND IT'S THERE, WE GOT IT COVERED.
WE'LL DO THAT. SO IF WE DO HAVE A MOTIONAL FOUR, IT WILL BE TO TABLE A THOR AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE MARCH 19TH . IF WE HAVE A MOTION THAT COMES FORWARD LIKE THAT, FROM ANYONE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE NEXT BNZ ON THE 19TH. OK, WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM FOUR FROM, UH COMMISSIONER CARSON. DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION A SECOND FOR WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION. UH, FROM COMMISSIONER JACKSON. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND CONTINUING THE
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PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MARCH 19TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.IN THE MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. GOOD DISCUSSION. THANKS, EVERYBODY. APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THAT. AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO TWO WEEKS. SO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE THIS EVENING,
[5. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider and act upon a request to amend the number of contiguous units that constitute a row of Townhomes in Planned Development-111 (PD-111), Ordinance No. 2021-52, located north of US 380 (University Drive) and west of Lakewood Drive. (ZONE-24-0003)]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE NUMBER OF CONTIGUOUS UNITS THAT CONSTITUTE A ROW OF TOWN HOMES. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 111. THIS IS PD DASH 111 ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 21-52, LOCATED NORTH OF U S3 180 UNIVERSITY DRIVE. AND WEST OF LAKEWOOD DRIVE. THIS IS CASE ZONE DASH 24-000. THANK YOU. THIS IS JUST A VISUAL THAT THAT GIVES YOU A LOCATION. GENERAL PROXIMITY OF WHERE THE SITE IS, UM, IT'S JUST SHOWS HOW IT FITS IN WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING. UM WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS THIS CAME THROUGH THE PROCESS. IN FACT, I'M GONNA SKIP AHEAD JUST A LITTLE BIT AND GO A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER. JUST SO WE CAN WELL. WE'RE MISSING ONE OF THE SLIDES. I THOUGHT WE HAD THIS CAME THROUGH AND IT'S IN YOUR POCKETS, BUT THIS CAME THROUGH A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. UM WENT THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCESS, AND IT WAS APPROVED. THE WAS, UM, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE STAFF, UM, WENT THROUGH AND IT STATED SPECIFICALLY IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS BEING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR TWO UNITS ATTACHED. UM AS TOWN HOMES, YOU KNOW, AND IT WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT WAS, UH, APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THEY WENT OUT. UH DEVELOPERS WENT OUT AND, UH AND, UH, PUT IN THE WATER LINE, SEWER LINES, DRAINAGE ROADS, ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS AS FAR AS THE PRELIMINARY PROCESSES CONCERNED, IT CAME BACK. UH, PROBABLY MONTH AND A HALF AGO NOW TWO MONTHS. AND WANTED TO START BUILDING UNITS AND WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET THAT APPROVED. WE NOTICED THAT THE DEFINITION IN OUR ORDINANCE, NOT IN THE PD. BUT IN OUR ORDINANCE STATED THAT TOWN HOMES WERE 3 TO 8 ATTACHED UNITS. AND IN PD ORDINANCE, IT STATED UP TO SEVEN UNITS THAT WERE ATTACHED. SO OBVIOUSLY ONE DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE ONE'S NOT ATTACHED. SO THAT WOULD LEAVE TO SEVEN UNITS, BUT THAT WAS IN CONFLICT WITH OUR BASE ORDINANCE, WHICH SAYS 3 TO 8. AND BECAUSE THE PD DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THAT, THEN THAT CONFLICT EXISTED AND IT POTENTIALLY COULD CAUSE PROBLEM GOING DOWN THE ROAD WHEN THEY'RE BEING SOLD, AND IT GETS THROUGH TITLE COMPANY AND THAT SORT OF THING, AND SO THE EASIEST WAY TO CORRECT. THE SITUATION WAS TO GO BACK AND AMEND THE PD. TO INSTEAD OF UP TO SEVEN TO AMEND IT TO FROM 27, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW IT TO IT WOULD FIX EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE, UM, THE WAY IT'S. IT'S ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED, BUT IT WOULD ALSO CORRECT IT GOING FORWARD AND THAT'S IT'S REALLY ALL THIS IS DOING IS FIXING THAT AND I KNOW, UM, I THINK COMMISSIONER CARSON HAD A QUESTION. UM, BUT I THINK SIR. I THINK YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT. FROM BACK IN MARCH, 1ST OF 22, AND THAT'S THE ONE WHERE IT TALKED ABOUT THE LITTLE THE UNITS ACROSS THE TOP THAT WERE SIDEWAYS THAT WERE FACING THE WHAT'S CALLED THE MUSE, AS OPPOSED TO THE STREET, BUT THAT THAT'S ALREADY DONE THAT WAS WAS BACK IN 2022. SO ALL THAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED FOR Y'ALL TONIGHT IS TO CHANGE THAT UP TO SEVEN. TO 227 AND EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE FINE IF Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT. YOU KNOW THE APPLICANTS HERE, ENGINEERS HERE. UM, I'M SURE THEY'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OR IF YOU HAVE ANY OF US BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF AT THIS TIME. I DO.[00:50:03]
YEAH THANKS, MR CHAIRMAN. OK, JUST TO CLARIFY TOO SO THE PD THAT WAS APPROVED AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAN OR OR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, DID THE PRELIMINARY PLAN SHOW. UH, TWO UNITS, HER BILL. THAT'S WHAT IT SHOWED. AND THEN YOUR REPORT AND IT MENTIONED IT WAS TWO UNITS. SO EVEN THOUGH THE MOTION THAT WAS APPROVED DIDN'T NECESSARILY SPECIFY TWO UNITS. IT DID NOT. ALL IT DID WAS WAS THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM, AS OPPOSED TWO UNITS, AND THE DESCRIPTION SHOWED TO YOU CORRECT, BUT BUT THE UM, AGENDA ITEM I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, THE STAFF REPORT. YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY STATED GET BACK TO IT HERE. UM THAT THERE WERE TWO THAT'S TAKARI'S I'M SORRY. HOLD ON. BUT IT STATED THAT THERE WERE TWO UH, IT WAS SOMEBODY WHO'S NO LONGER HERE, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. I MEAN IT, IT SAID TO AND IT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND THERE WASN'T ANY REASON FOR ANYBODY TO DOUBT THAT, TOO, WAS OK BECAUSE THEY'LL PROBABLY WEREN'T READING THE ORDINANCES. SO THAT'S HOW IT IT. IT KIND OF SLIPPED THROUGH. LIKE I SAID, ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FIX IT, ALLOW THEM TO MOVE FORWARD. SOUNDS GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WELL, THANK YOU. FOR THE SUMMARY REPORT.APPRECIATE IT. I THINK YOU JUST CLEANING THIS UP, SO I'LL GO AHEAD. THIS IS REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE THIS EVENING, AND IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING ON SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK IF THE APPLICANTS HERE AND WANTS TO SPEAK TO, UH, TO ANYTHING ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WE SURE APPRECIATE IT AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION STAFF. MY NAME IS JOHN PAPAGOS 5225 VILLAGE CREEK DRIVE SUITE 300, PLANO 75093. PAPA GOLD'S DEVELOPMENT SERVES AS A DEVELOPER OF THIS PROPERTY FOR THE OWNER. UH, WE'RE IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH WHAT'S OCCURRING AND WHAT STAFF HAS DONE. WE APPRECIATE THEM WORKING WITH US AND CLARIFYING THIS, WE THINK COULD BE GOOD FOR US STAFF IN THE TOWN TO GET THIS CLARIFICATION TAKEN CARE OF NOW. THANK YOU. I'M AVAILABLE MANAGER . ANY QUESTIONS? APPRECIATE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT. ANY UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING THEY WOULD LIKE TO STEP FORWARD AND SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE THIS EVENING. PLEASE NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT JOHN, IT'S YOUR COMMENT. REQUEST CARD THAT I HAVE THIS EVENING SO THAT WE HAD NO OTHER ONES THAT WERE PRESENTED THIS EVENING. SO THERE IS NO OTHER QUESTIONS. NO MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE. I'D LIKE TO STEP FORWARD. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND I'LL TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY DISCUSSION, CONVERSATION AND OR A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM FIVE. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER HARRIS TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SO I CAN HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER REEVE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR APPROVING REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. I'VE GOT OK, I'VE GOT 7 TO 0. UH, MOTION IS APPROVED FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE. THAT WAS FUNNY. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE . THANKS FOR BEING HERE WORKING THROUGH THAT ITEM NUMBER SIX
[6. Review actions taken by the Town Council and possibly direct Town Staff to schedule topic(s) for discussion at a future meeting.]
THIS EVENING. REVIEW ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE TOWN COUNCIL AND POSSIBLY DIRECT TOWN STAFF TO SCHEDULE TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. UH, SO FOR TOWN COUNCIL, UH, THE PREVIOUS TOWN COUNCIL ITEMS ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 27TH JUST WE HAD ONE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. UH, THE LAKEWOOD PARK CELL TOWER CP ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, FOR THE UPCOMING TOWN COUNCIL MEETING ON MARCH 12TH FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE, UH, THE TEAL PARKWAY RETAIL, UH, SPECIFIC EAST PER SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ORDINANCE AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UM, AND THEN FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE'VE GOT THAT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH. UH, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. UM AND THEN THIS DOMINION AT BROOK HOLO PD, UH, 111 AMENDMENT. AS WELL. UM, AND THEN UPCOMING FOR THE NEXT PNZ MEETING. UM WE'LL HAVE THAT ITEM THAT WAS TABLED. UM AND THEN, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE ALSO WILL HAVE A SPECIFIC EXPERIMENT FOR THE SCHOOLHOUSE. UH, THAT IS A, UH, NEW DAYCARE, UH, THAT IS TURNING AN EXISTING HOME INTO, UM, A DAYCARE FACILITY. AND SO THEY'RE COMING BEFORE YOU FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THAT? UM, SO THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE ANTICIPATE BEING ON THE NEXT PN GP NG AGENDA. WELL BAKARI. THANKS FOR THAT SUMMARY ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF THIS EVENING? I'LL GO ON RECORD. I WON'T BE HERE. THE 19TH OK? WE'LL MAKE NOTE OF THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL, UH[00:55:10]
APPRECIATE ALL THOSE WORK THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING IN TWO WEEKS.I NUMBER SEVEN IS A JOURNAL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND WE DO HAVE SOME SERIOUS BUSINESS TO ATTEND TO, AND THE EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM AFTER THIS, SO OH, OK, WELL OUT HERE, THEN WE'VE GOT SOME YOU CAN ADJOURN, BUT WE GOT SOME BUSINESS SUIT INTO. IT'S GONNA BE FUN. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT LAST COMMENT. I THINK WE DID BEFORE THAT. WE HAD A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HARRIS TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION SECOND? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HAMILTON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 7 TO 0. WE ARE ADJOURNED AND TIME IS 6:58 P.M. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.