Dec 05, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission

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EVERYBODY READY TO ROLL. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TUESDAY DECEMBER

[1. Call to Order / Roll Call.]

[CONSENT AGENDA]

CITIZEN COMMENTS. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ■ANY&-N IS UNABLE TO DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA. PLEASE COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT, REQUEST FORM AND PRESENT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE MEETING. I'M GUESSING. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS ON ANYTHING THIS EVENING OUTSIDE OF OUR AGENDA. WE DO NOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. GENDER ADAM NUMBER FOR THIS EVENING. CONDUCTOR

[4. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider an act upon a request for a Planned Development for a House of Worship on 26.1± acres, for Prosper School Church Addition, Block A, Lot 2, located north of West First Street and west of South Legacy Drive. The property is zoned Agricultural. (ZONE-23-0030)]

LOCATED NORTH OF WEST FIRST STREET IN WEST OF SOUTH LEGACY DRIVE. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL MRS. CASES OWNED 23-0030. THIS ITEM IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR A HOUSE OF WORSHIP. IT IS LOCATED NORTH OF WEST FIRST STREET AND WEST OF SOUTH LEGACY DRIVE. HERE IS A AREA OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE SO YOU CAN SEE THERE IS AN EXISTING SITE RIGHT THERE. THEY ARE TRYING TO PURPOSE OF THE QUESTIONS CONSTRUCTING 1000 SEAT WORSHIP BUILDING AND THE ASSOCIATED PARKING ALONG WITH THAT THE REASON WHY THEY NEED TO REZONE IS BECAUSE THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT RIDES A LOT COVERAGE ALLOWANCE OF 20. AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF WORSHIP BUILDING. ASSOCIATED PARKING IN EXISTENCE STRUCTURE WILL COMPRISE A LOT COVERAGE OF 32.

AND THE PLANT DEVELOPMENT IS NEEDED BECAUSE THE OFFICE DISTRICT WAS VIEWED AS THE MOST COMPATIBLE ZONING. SO IF YOU LOOK AT ZONING HERE, AND THEN THERE'S A MAP ON THE NEXT PAGE.

SO PROPERTIES OWNED AGRICULTURAL TO THE NORTH OF SORRY, TJ THAT ARTEMISIA IT'S DEVELOPED AS RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST IS MEDICAL OFFICES. IT'S THAT PD 113. IT'S THE SAME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A P D WITH THE BASE IN THE OFFICE. UM AND THEN THAT YELLOW SIDE RIGHT THERE. P D 66 IS STAR TRAIL. TO THE SOUTH IS PD 14. THAT IS, UH, LEGACY POINT. I BELIEVE. AND THAT IS THE OTHER OFFICE. RESIDENTIAL AND INTERIOR WEST IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO WITH ALL THAT THERE IS SOME RED THERE AND SO AT FIRST WE WERE THINKING, MAYBE COMMERCIAL. BUT AFTER FURTHER VIEW OF IT, I THINK WE DECIDED OFFICE BEING THE MOST COMPATIBLE ZONING. BASED ON THE SURROUNDING USES THERE. HOWEVER THE REASON WHY THEY NEED THAT POINT DEVELOPMENT COULDN'T GO JUST TO

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THEY'RE TRYING TO GO TO ON THE OFFICE DISTRICT. SO THE MINIMUM LOT AREA IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS SO IS THE WITH THE DEVIL. SETBACKS, ETCETERA. AND YOU SEE THAT 30% OFFERS COVERAGE THERE AND SO KEY ON THE RIGHT SIDE. SO ASIDE. SETBACKS IT'S 20 FOR AGRICULTURAL 25 KEY LOT. AND THEN ON THE OFFICE DISTRICT. 10 IS ADJACENT TO NONRESIDENTIAL 25 IS ADJACENT TO A ONE STORY. IF IT'S A ONE STORY BUILDING ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AND THEN THE TWO ARE AS IF IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL SO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITH THIS WE ALSO BELIEVE JUST TWO MINUS. WE MIGHT AS WELL CUT THE USES DOWN. IN THE P D. SO INSTEAD OF JUST ALL THE NEWS IS ALLOWED IN THE OFFICE DISTRICT. WE JUST GOT CHILDCARE CENTER, WHICH IS PERMITTED BY AN ISSUE P HOUSE OF WORSHIP RECTORY, WHICH IS JUST A PLACE WHERE THE PASTOR COULD LIVE, UH, SCHOOL AND OR PRIVATE OR PAROCHIAL SCHOOL, SO JUST ALL USE IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOUSE OF WORSHIP AND THE POINT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE MAXIMUM ALLOWANCE OF 50% LOCK COVERAGE AND THE REASON WHY 50 PER SINGLE SHOWS IT WAS ONE OF THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTING THAT, BUT IT ALSO GIVES THEM A LITTLE LEEWAY. LET'S SAY CUT IT OFF 35. IT WOULDN'T GIVE HIM A TON OF RUNWAY POTENTIALLY IF THEY WANT TO DEVELOP FURTHER ON THE PROPERTY, WHERE IT'S 50% WOULD NOTICES FOR THIS CASE WORKING OUT THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING, ONE SECOND NUMBER 22ND. THERE HAS BEEN NO CITIZEN RESPONSE AND UH, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS CASE AND I WILL NOT TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. MM QUESTIONS FOR THE KOREA TOWN STAFF. CAN YOU RUN THROUGH THE 32 VERSES? 50 AGAIN? YEAH. I WOULD LIKE THAT EXPLANATION. I'M JUST CLEAR. SO THEIR DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY.

WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE WORSHIPING ASSOCIATED PARKING. THAT WOULD ALL GO TO 32. OUT OF THE OFFICE DISTRICT ONLY ALLOWS 30% SO WE NEEDED TO AMEND. THE WAR COVERAGE ALLOWANCE IN THIS PD, HOWEVER. THE APPLICANT REQUESTED 50 WE GOT THAT WAS FINE BECAUSE LET'S SAY THAT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE DEVELOPING THIS SITE BECAUSE IF YOU SEE HERE IN THE BACK PART OF THE LOT.

THERE'S STILL MORE TO DEVELOP. AND SO I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY IF THEY HAVE ANY INTENTIONS TO, BUT IF THEY DID THAT 50% ALLOWED TO GIVE THEM MORE ONE WAY IN THE FUTURE, THEY DECIDED TO DEVELOP THIS FURTHER. AND WHATEVER THEY DECIDE TO DEVELOP BACK THERE WILL COME TO US. UM IF IT GOES OVER THAT 50% BUT IF IT STAYS UNDER THAT 50, MAYBE FIVE AND IT HAS TO BE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU PUT UP THEIR SCHOOL. YES, IT HAS TO BE THESE USERS, AND THAT'S WHY WE I TOOK IT DOWN BECAUSE WE'VE ALSO FELT LIKE YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST HAVE USES THAT ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE HOUSE OF WORSHIP, SO THANK YOU. AND THAT DEVELOPMENT THE REQUEST TO GO TO 50. WERE THEY BE ABLE TO RECLAIM THAT FLOOD ZONE AREA WOULD THAT BE EXCLUSIVE OF THE FLOODS OWNER? UH, IT'S ON THE NORTH EAST SIDE OF THAT THERE IS THE. WE DO ALLOW RECLAMATION OF FLOODPLAIN AREA OF THERE'S CERTAIN STEPS THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT IT'S UNLIKELY THAT WITH 50% LIMIT ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE FLOODPLAIN ANYWAY, BECAUSE YOU GET A PRETTY GOOD FEEL FOR WHERE THE FLOODPLAIN IS FROM FROM WHERE THE TREES ARE LOCATED. SO IT'S PROBABLY A MOOT POINT. BUT SHORT ANSWER IS YES, THEY COULD. IF YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ONLY AT 45. I NEEDED IT ANOTHER 5% AND THEY COULD GO THROUGH THE RECOGNITION PROCESS. AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET NEARLY 50% DOCKERY SAID. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO OUR FIRST FUTURE EXPANSION. SOME ADDITIONAL PART. FINGER OR SOMETHING. THINGS GO BACK HOME. ATTENDANCE INCREASES.

HIMSELF FOURTH. WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE THEM COME BACK. DO SOMETHING THAT. AND THEN IS THERE ANY HEIGHT LIMITATIONS TO THE BUILDING? CAN THE OFFICE DISTRICT THERE ARE LIMITATIONS, AND I. SO THERE ARE SETBACKS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STORIES SO HOWEVER FAR THERE SETBACK. UM

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THAT'S WHAT THEY ASKED FOR, THOUGH. WHAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE WANT? SORRY LAST QUESTION.

WHAT'S THE NUMBER AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS? THAT WE WOULD WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM 70% TO MUCH 80% TOO MUCH LIKE WHAT'S OUR WHAT'S OUR RANGE? IN TERMS OF LUCK COVERAGE. WE'RE GOING UP TO 50.

I DON'T. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME IDEAS. 50 A LOT. I MEAN, IS THAT MORE THAN WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY DO? I MEAN, 30 IS A IS THERE ANOTHER ZONING THAT HAS THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK THE HIGHEST ALLOWED IN ZONING AND THE ZONING ORDINANCES DOES SPECIFY OTHER COMMERCIAL ZONING ARE ALLOWED. I THINK EVEN HIGHER THAN 50, SO 50 IS NOT A AGREE GIS LAW COVERAGE. UM IT'S JUST THAT THE LESS INTENSIVE THE USE OF THE WEST. LA COVERAGE IS USUALLY ALLOWED BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT EXPECTING ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT ON IT. AND SO FOR OFFICERS. TYPICALLY IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN MY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO REZONE TO THAT, BECAUSE WE JUST FELT LIKE THE USES WEREN'T COMPATIBLE. AND SO THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE DID WAS TRY TO PRESERVE THE AREA IN TERMS OF THE USES AND THEN JUST ADMIT THAT WHAT COVERAGE HAVING NEEDED TO BE YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER OTHER GROWING CHURCHES AROUND THE AREA. IN TERMS OF OVERALL COVERAGE. UM, I DON'T SPECIFICALLY KNOW WHAT OTHER BECAUSE TYPICALLY THEY'RE NOT IN A PLANTED ON BECAUSE THEY'RE ALLOWED EVERYWHERE. UM AND SO IF THEY'RE IN A RETAIL AREA THEY CAN BUILD WHATEVER THAT LAW COVERAGES. THAT'S HIGHER. UM AND SINCE THEY'RE ALLOWED EVERYWHERE, THERE'S NOT REALLY A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS JUST CHURCHES IN IT. HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE HAVE THE YES, I HAVE QUITE SO JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT COMMENT. THE PLAN NO OTHER CHURCHES HAVING TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT SO AND I UNDERSTAND CHURCHES THEY CAN BE IN ANY ZONING CAN BE IN ANY SO WHAT'S THE TELL ME THE THOUGHT PROCESS. WHY? WHY AGAIN? ARE WE FORCING THEM TO GO TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN JUST YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT ZONE THIS TO WHATEVER WOULD FIT THEIR NEEDS AT THE TIME. SO THE REASON

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I KNOW YOU'RE RIGHT AT WE'RE REAL CLOSE, BUT THAT'S WHY WE ASKED FOR THAT. APPRECIATE THAT ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING FOR CHILDREN'S CENTERS WILL MAKE SURE I'M CORRECT. IT'S NOT FROM A DAYCARE OR JUST CHILDREN'S LEARNING AND TURKEY, OKAY? I THOUGHT THIS CASE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPETITE. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK AND THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ADAM AND AT THIS TIME, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON? I DON'T REMEMBER FOR THIS EVENING. AND IF NOT THE GUARD. DID WE HAVE ANY COMMENT? REQUEST FORMS IN FAVOR OR AGAINST OKAY? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I SAW YOU COMING UP ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS CASE? OKAY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. GO AHEAD AND CLOSE. I DON'T KNOW BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND WARM OCEAN. MR CHAIRMAN. I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION OF DISCUSSION. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR AS PRESENTED. OKAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER BLANCHETT. DO WE HAVE A 2ND 2ND 2ND FROM COMMISSIONER HAMBLETON ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER FOUR. SUBJECT TO THE TOWN STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. IN MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR TOWN STAFF. ALL YOUR WORK ON THAT ONE. APPRECIATE THE ADVOCATE AND

[5. Conduct a Public Hearing to consider an ordinance amending Chapter 3, Section 1.4 – Conditional Development Standards and Chapter 4 – Development Requirements of the Town of Prosper Zoning Ordinance to modify requirements related to drivethroughs. (ZONE-23-0033)]

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THIS . ITEM WAS BEFORE YEAR'S PROPOSAL AS YOU MENTIONED TO

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THAT ALLOWANCE WAS REMOVED, MEANING THAT ALL STRUCTURES AND SPEAKER BOXR THIS MUST BE 200 FT FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SO IT'S KIND OF JUST A SUMMARY. UM NOTIFICATION FOR THIS AMENDMENT WAS MADE IN THE NEWSPAPER PER OR REQUIREMENTS, AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK FROM ANYONE. AT THIS TIME AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA. AMENDMENTS

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IT'S FIVE. AND SO LET ME MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR SO WE WOULD NOT. IF WE MADE THIS CHANGE. NEITHER ONE OF THESE WOULD BE ACCEPTED CORRECT. CORRECT CHANGE THAT WOULD HAPPEN IS LIKE THE BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE WOULDN'T BE THERE BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE ONE ON EACH. YOU CAN HAVE ONE.

THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPACES THAT YOU COULD HAVE. YES, YOU COULD HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT. AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME OTHER USE. IT'S NOT A DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT, IT COULD BE A BAKED WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH. IT COULD BE A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT. IT COULD BE RETAIL STORES, AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE ANOTHER DRIVE. RESTAURANT. SO THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. SO IF WE HAD TO DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT AND HAD TO DROP THROUGH BANK YOU COULD DO YOU COULD STILL HAVE THAT SIDE BY SIDE. CORRECT BECAUSE CHANGE SPECIFICALLY JUST RESTAURANTS JUST FOR RESIDENTS, OKAY, BECAUSE THEY REQUIRE AS UPS SO THAT ADDED WITH THAT. SO WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER? I MEAN, WOULD YOU CONSIDER A STARBUCKS A RESTAURANT? THAT DOES HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH. YES, IT WOULD BE A RESTAURANT OF THE DRIVE TO ITSELF FOOD. IS THAT WHAT MAKES THE RESTAURANT LET'S GET VERY, VERY LONGER LIFE RIGHT? WHAT MAKES THE RESTAURANT RESTAURANT RESTAURANT DRINKS? IS THAT A RESTAURANT? I GUESS IT IS ANYTHING THAT'S SOUNDS FOOD OR BEVERAGE, RIGHT? FOR YES, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES OR YEAH. YEAH WELL, THAT'S A GOOD BECAUSE BECAUSE I MEAN THE 51% RULE FROM A SURE. I MEAN, IF WE'VE. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A BAR RESTAURANT, IT'S 51% OF CELLS OF ALCOHOL COMPARED TO. INSIDE WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WOULD CLARIFY THAT I WOULD SAY. CAN I ASK HIM? GOTCHA. FORTIES. THAT PERCENT IS TYPICALLY LEFT OVER. FROM CITIES AND TOWNS. GET A. FIVE OTHER SIDE, JERRY CONTINUALLY ROLLING. AND REGULATIONS THAT CITIES AND TOWNS CAN DO BUT THAT PERCENTAGE IS. OVERSEEN BY THE CITY OR THE TOWN. TH BBC WORKS OUT. THAT, TOO, MAKES A DECISION. WE CAN ALLOW THE ZONE. YEAH, I CAN DO THAT. RESTAURANTS, WHICH IS STILL LEFT. THE COVID CHANGES THAT GOVERNOR PUT IN PLACE TEMPORARILY. IT'S BY THE LEGISLATURE. SO IF YOU GO ON THE CHILIES. TO TAKE IT WITH YOU.

DRINKS TO GO. YOUR FOOD. THAT'S STILL THERE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF A DIFFERENT THINGS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NO I YOU YOU KIND OF MISSED MY POINT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN I THINK OF STARBUCKS,

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MAYBE A LITTLE CLARIFIED. IF YOU SAID THIS, I WAS READING. I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING REDUNDANT.

WHAT IS DRIVING THE CHANGE? FOR THE I MEAN, THIS IS NOT SAYING I'M FOR OR AGAINST. I'M JUST LEARNING, BUT IT'S PRETTY STRICT , WHICH IN GENERAL IS PROBABLY NOT A BAD THING, BUT WHAT'S DRIVING. I MEAN, WE'RE LIKE I WOULD SAY. 80% OF OUR PROPERTY AND PROSPER IS ALREADY DEVELOPED . THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS, SO IT'S A PRETTY MINIMAL IMPACT FROM FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

PROBABLY A GOOD THING. WHY IS COUNCIL OR OR WHOEVER'S DRIVING THE BOURBONS THAT'S IN HERE. WHY IS IT BEING SO SPECIFIC TO DRIVE THROUGHS? BECAUSE I CERTAINLY AGREE. COFFEE SHOP, CONSIDERED A RESTAURANT OR DRIVE THROUGH BANK IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SHOW RAISING CANE'S. JUST KIND OF CURIOUS FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE COLOR TO LET'S SAY IN GENERAL A LOT THAT'S DRIVING. IT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMENTS AND THAT THAT THAT WAS A SPECIFIC POINT THAT THAT WAS REQUESTED. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE LAND THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED IN THIS TOWN, THERE IS QUITE STILL A BIT OF POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL LAND ALONG WITH DON'T THE DOLLS ARE TOTALLY SO, UM MAYBE. AS OF THE MOMENT THIS MIGHT NOT BE, BUT IN THE FUTURE COULD BE, UM AND THEN JUST AS FAR AS YOU RIGHT NOW. WE PROVIDE OR WE'VE. DRIVE THROUGHS . RESTAURANTS WITH DRIVE THROUGHS ARE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

AND ALONG WITH THOSE THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK. AND SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF GATHERING S STAFF KIND OF GATHERED WHAT WE COULD, AND WE'RE PROPOSING THESE THESE SO IS IT NOT? PHILOSOPHICALLY SPEAKING, WILL IT NOT BE BETTER TO HAVE THEM GROUPED TOGETHER SO THAT THEY'RE NOT MORE SCATTERED ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY AND MORE IN THE HIGHER LIKE THAT EXAMPLE THAT YOU DO SHOW AND I FEEL LIKE I'D RATHER HAVE FIVE LAW ON ONE CORNER. THEN FIVE EVERY 500 FT OR WHATEVER. I JUST. CURIOUS NOTICE. JUST YEAH, I MEAN, PUT IN GROUPING TOGETHER IS GREAT UNLESS YOU LIVE NEAR JUST BECAUSE THE THIS YEAH, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. THIS IS PROBABLY A FIVE MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF THE UNIVERSITY. UM AND ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE THERE AND WHAT THEY'RE NOT. THEY DON'T SHOW IS THERE'S ANOTHER. THERE'S MORE. THERE'S ONE MORE IN FRONT OF IT. AND THEN THERE TO THE RIGHT OR SORRY TO THE EAST OF IT. IS A WHOLE OTHER CLUMP OF DRIVE THROUGH. SO YOU'VE GOT. YOU'VE GOT THE GAS STATION. THEN YOU HAVE PANERA NO. SORRY MCDONALDS. THEN PANERA , THEN CHICK FIL A ALL OF WHICH ARE DRIVE THROUGH. SO YOU GOT STACKED. PLUS YOU HAVE SWEET. WHICH IS RIGHT BEHIND IT, WHICH IS ANOTHER DRIVE THROUGH SHAKE, SHOP OR DRINK SHOP. RIGHT. SO YOU GOT FOUR. AND THEN YOU GOT THIS. YEAH THAT'S THE RESTAURANT UNDER THE RULES. SO FOR THE PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY I'M SURE WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE ANY MORE PUT IN THAT AREA TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND TO THE OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAD. WE STARTED TO SEE. AND I THINK BRANDON DAMON AND I THINK CAMERON A LITTLE BIT TOO.

EXPERIENCE SOME OF THIS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPLETION. UM LAST YEAR WE HAD AN EARLIER THIS YEAR WE HAD A RUN OF DRIVE THROUGH REQUESTS PEOPLE COMING IN AND WANTING TO PUT A DRIVE THRU IN THE SALAD AND GOALS, SEVERAL OTHERS. AND SO WE START TO NOTICE THAT BETWEEN THIS GROUP AND THE COUNCIL, THERE WAS SOME. PUSH BACK ON THESE DRIVE THROUGHS, AND EVERYONE HAD DIFFERENT REASONS FOR IT. SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE PUT ANOTHER DRIVE THROUGH RIGHT AND SOME PEOPLE JUST DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THE DRIVE THRU IS BEING SET UP. SO THAT'S SORT OF CAUSE PEOPLE TO SAY, AND THEN WE'LL GET TURNED DOWN. AND SO THEN WE SAID, OK, LOOK, DO WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TRYING TO USE OR NOT? THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF SAID OKAY, LOOK, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GONNA BE AGAINST THEM, THEN WE NEED TO WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING DRIVING'S. BUT IF WE ARE, WE CAN'T KEEP DENYING HIS DRIVE THROUGH JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A PERSONAL PREFERENCE. SO THAT'S WHERE WE THEN START TO SAY WE NEED TO GET SOMETHING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO REFLECT ALL OF THESE FEELINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BETWEEN US AND THE COUNCIL ON WHATSAPP. SO A LOT OF THE CHANGES WERE PROBABLY THINGS

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THEY'RE IN A THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT FRONTING ON THE ROAD . I MEAN, THERE'S NOT. I MEAN, THERE'S THEY'RE NOT DIRECT THE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE ROAD, NECESSARILY EACH ONE. THERE'S ONE ROAD THAT GETS UP THERE TO THEM, AND YOU GET WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE THE SAME THING. OVER THERE ON WHAT WE LOOKED AT THE OTHER FEW WEEKS AGO WITH MCDONALD'S, AND IT WAS GONNA END THERE WERE PLANS FOR FUTURE ONES THERE THAT WOULD RESTRICT IN THAT WHOLE NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE. THAT'S OFF THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT, SO I DON'T SEE THE IMPACT. ON TRAFFIC IN THAT IN THAT KIND OF SETTING. AND I MAY ADD IF THEY WERE RIGHT ON PRESTON, YOU KNOW, RIGHT? IF I MAY ADD SOMETHING TO THAT DRIVE THROUGHS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC DRIVE THROUGH, SUCH AS THESE GENERATE INDIVIDUALLY. THE MOST AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FOR AN INDIVIDUALLY IS HAVE ANY OTHER USE THAT WE HAVE PERIOD. AND WHEN YOU PUT 34 OR FIVE OF THEM TOGETHER, AND AS YOU JUST SAID. MORE TIMES THAN NOT, THEY'RE LIMITED BY THE DRIVES THAT HAVE ACCESS TO THEM WHEREVER THEY HAPPEN TO BE THE ONE ON THE RIGHT THAT'S GOT THE FIVE HAS THREE DRIVEWAYS THAT GO TO IT. WHICH MEANS ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC HAS TO GO IN AND OUT OF THOSE SAME THREE DRIVEWAYS THAT OVERLOADS THE LIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION, AND IT BACKS UP THE TRAFFIC AND EVERY DIRECTION WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT BREAKFAST LUNCH AND THEN LATER ON IN DINNER IN SO SPREADING THEM OUT. SPREADS OUT THAT TRAFFIC HAVE BEEN AND TOGETHER IS ABOUT THE WORST THING YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO. IS THAT IS THAT I CAN DO WE FIND THAT IN OTHER CITIES THAT THEY HAVE SIMILAR ORDINANCES THAT DID THIS. THIS THIS SIMILAR RESTRICTIONS. THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT DO. I WILL NOT TELL YOU ALL CITIES TO KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT AN UNCOMMON THING TO DO, AND IT'S DONE. PARTLY FOR AESTHETICS . THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S DONE. I WOULD TELL YOU PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF CONTROLLING THE TRAFFIC. IT'S THE SAME REASON THAT WE LIMIT DISTANCES BETWEEN DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE GOING INTO DEVELOPMENTS AND INTERSECTIONS THAT. LIMITS BETWEEN WHERE THE INTERSECTION IS AND WHEN THE FIRST DRIVEWAY CAN BE. IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO CONTROL THAT TRAFFIC. THE MORE INTENSIVELY USE. OBVIOUSLY THE MORE TRAFFIC THERE IS, AND THE MORE DIFFICULT IT IS TO BE ABLE TO SPREAD THAT OUT. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT HAVING ALL OF THE DRIVE THROUGHS IN THAT AREA COME TOGETHER LIKE THAT. IS IF YOU GO ACROSS 380, GO TO THE SIDE. FRISCO SIDE WHERE YOU HAVE STARBUCKS. YOU GOT HICKEYS. YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF UPS AND SOME OTHER PLACES YOU CAN PARK AND WALK. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR KIDS AND WALK AROUND FROM STORE TO STORE YOU CAN YOU CAN MOVE AROUND. DIFFERENTLY HERE UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS. YOU'RE GONNA GO. THEY'RE GONNA PARK AND GET OUT AND GO IN THE BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, WALKING FROM BUSINESS TO BUSINESS, IT'S NOT REALLY EVEN SAFE TO BE WALKING AROUND.

IN THAT AREA AT ALL. I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR GOING FROM CHASE TO RAISING CANE'S TO JACK IN THE BOX WITHOUT A CAR IS A RISKY UH, IS A RISKY DEAL. SOMEONE WAS SERIOUSLY INJURED.

UM FEW MONTHS BACK. COMING OUT OF. UM TORCHES, I THINK OR THE OR EITHER TORCHES OR THE FROZEN YOGURT PLACE, SOMEONE GOT HIT BY A CAR. UM THE CAR WAS JUST DRIVING THROUGH THE PAST KROGER AND HIT SOMEBODY CALLED A SERIOUS INJURY. I DON'T I'M NOT SURE IF THEY PASSED. I HOPE THEY DIDN'T BUT JUST IN REAL SERIOUS SITUATION, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE THESE

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IT'S JUST NOT A PLACE THAT ATTRACTS FAMILIES TO WANT TO COME IN, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF PLACES ALONG THAT STRIP BEHIND. THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE VERY FAMILY ORIENTED, IS A MARTIAL ARTS TRAINING HAS A LOT OF KIDS THERE. THERE'S A FROZEN YOGURT SPOT. SO I'M JUST NOT. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE FINE. IT'S NOT THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD HAVE THEM, BUT AS A PERSON THAT LIVES IN THE SUBDIVISION RIGHT BEHIND THIS. WOULD I PREFER TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT LITTLE CLOSER TO WHAT'S ACROSS 380, WHERE THE BUSINESSES ARE CONNECTED? THERE'S A SEPARATED PARKING LOT.

THERE'S WALKING SPACE AND ALL THAT. YEAH, I WOULD PREFER THAT. SO I THINK COMMISSIONER PLANS SAID SAID THIS, AND I HAD THIS QUESTION TOO. SO WHEN YOU ALL LOOKED AT MAKING THESE CHANGES? ARE THERE ANY TOWNS OUT THERE THAT HAVE THIS TYPE OF LIKE, DO YOU HAVE EXAMPLES? UH, BECAUSE I CAN THINK OF TOWNS VERY CLOSE TO PROSPER. AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY TOWN NAMES, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY DO OR AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T AT ONE TIME BECAUSE IT LOOKS JUST LIKE THIS. BUT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW TOWNS OUT THERE THAT HAVE THIS TYPE OF WORDING AND ORDINANCE ADVICE. I COULDN'T SIT HERE AND RATTLE OFF A LIST OF TOWNS THAT DO I GUESS WHERE I WAS GOING WITH. THAT IS WHEN Y'ALL MADE THESE CHANGES DID Y'ALL HAVE IN THE WORLD OF PLANNING. IS THERE SOME TEMPLATE OUT THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU GO LOOK AT HIS RESOURCE. SAY, HEY, WE DO KNOW SOMETIMES HAVE THIS AND YEAH, AND THAT THAT COMES FROM, YOU KNOW A SNOWING. WHAT? WHAT? OTHER PLANNERS ARE DOING AND OTHER COMMUNITIES AND WHY, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THAT THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT YOU'LL DRIVE TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS, BUT I THINK YOU'LL ALSO FIND THAT THOSE ARE OLDER DEVELOPMENTS, NOT NEWER DEVELOPMENTS, AND FRISCO'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONES IS TOP OF THE LIST THAT IS DOING THINGS TOO. KIND OF CORRECT SITUATIONS FROM GOING FORWARD AND YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS NOT TO HAVE THOSE ANYMORE AND THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN DO THAT IS CREATE ORDINANCES THAT DIVIDES THEM UP. IT ISN'T NECESSARILY GO AWAY, GO TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT A REAL REASON TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, OTHER THAN MORE TIMES THAN NOT MONEY. YEAH. THE IDEAS BEING AT THAT LOCATION ON A CORNER IS GOING TO HELP DRIVE MORE TRAFFIC AND HELP DRIVE MORE REVENUE FOR THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE, AND I CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT THERE. THERE'S PROBABLY SOME TRUTH TO THAT. BUT THAT IN ITSELF IS WHAT CAUSES THE PROBLEMS FROM THE CITY SIDE.

WHICH IS THE TRAFFIC AND WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. SEVERAL OF YOU MENTIONED. YOU KNOW THINGS HAVE BEEN IN THE BACK IF YOU HAVE FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX OF THESE THAT ARE ON A CORNER IN THE FRONT, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT HOME DEPOT OR LOWES. IT'S IN THE BACK AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THOSE THINGS GENERATE TRYING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH ALL THE TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING INTO THE FAST FOOD PLACES. ALL TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE SAME DRIVEWAYS TO GET ON THE MAIN ROAD. IT'S A PROBLEM. GO ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD DO ABOUT THAT. IS TO TRY AND HELP REGULATE. THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE TRYING TO GO THROUGH THOSE SAME PLACES BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE SO MANY DRIVEWAYS. BASED ON THE DISTANCE REQUIRED. SO THAT'S. IT IS PARTLY AESTHETICS THAT YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE ON. WELL THEY ALSO LEFT TO BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR SCREEN. YOU CAN SEE IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE LANDSCAPING DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE SCREENING. WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AS FAR AS AESTHETICS AND THE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED.

COUPLE OF THAT. THE FACT THAT THERE. SO MANY OF THEM TOGETHER AND SO MANY CARS THAT BUT WIND UP COMING AND GOING TO SEVERAL SITUATIONS AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS SO ON THE PICTURE TO THE LEFT IF THAT WAS REVERSED IN THAT THE MIDDLE FAST FOOD RESTAURANT ON THE SAME NAMES HERE, BUT IF IT WAS ON THE FAR LEFT AND I GUESS I'M SAYING THAT'S A BANK. THAT'S ON THE FAR LEFT. NOW, IF IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED.

EVEN WITH THIS NEW CHANGE. SO YOU HAVE FAST FOOD BANK FAST FOOD THAT WOULD BE OKAY WITH THIS CHANGE. SOMETHING YOU'VE PROBABLY NOTICED, TOO, AND IT'S WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BANKS.

GREAT. MANY BANGS. LATELY I HAVE HAD STARTED CHANGING. AND ELIMINATING THEIR DRIVE THROUGH

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SUPPOSEDLY THE CHIP ALTE COMING HERE. WOULD THAT HAVE TO COME BACK TO US? OR IS THAT ALREADY DONE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T STARTED BUILDING ANYTHING? THEY'RE NOT DROPPING. BUT NOT ALL OF THEM. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THAT ONE LOST, OKAY. SO WHERE'S GRANDFATHER? BECAUSE IT WAS DRAFTED? YEAH. THE DAY THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK, OKAY? BECAUSE I DO SHOP ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. I HAVE ONLY FOUND TWO INSTANCES AND PROSPER THAT THIS WOULD APPLY FOR RIGHT SIDE, WHICH IS CUSTARD AND 384 LEFT SIDE, WHICH IS 3,000,001 SONG.

SO KINDA INTERESTING. IN THE COMMON THEMES. 383 BUT YOU SEE, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU NOW YOU MADE AND I WAS GOING TO MENTION IT. AND THEN I GOT SIDETRACKED.

BUT YOU MENTIONED 8020. THAT THERE IS ONLY LIKE 80% I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY 80% DONE, AND THERE'S 20% THE REALITY IS THAT'S REVERSE. IT'S ONLY ABOUT 20% DONE AND ALL THE MAJOR STREETS, YOU KNOW THAT GO NORTH AND SOUTH AND EAST AND WEST THERE HAD COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. HAVE THESE AS PERMITTED USES. THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE S U. P S BUT THE ISSUE P CAN'T REALLY MAKE THIS SPACE BIGGER, WHEREAS IF WE HAVE THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN PLAY THEN. WHEN THE ARCHITECT OR ENGINEER WHOEVER IS LAYING OUT THE SUBDIVISIONS. EXCUSE ME AM COMMERCIAL CENTERS AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. THEN IT'S NOT A BATTLE WHEN IT COMES TO THE S U P STAGE TO GET THOSE THINGS IN BECAUSE THE REGULATIONS ARE ALREADY THERE, AND IT WILL PREVENT A LOT OF THOSE GETTING THROUGH. WITHOUT ANY ANY TYPE. OF KNOWLEDGE BEING TRANSFER FROM THE CITY. DOWN TO THE FAST READING. OKAY SO THEN WE WERE KIND OF ADDRESSED THIS DIRECTORY RESTAURANTS WOULD BE SEPARATED BY ANOTHER YEARS, AND IT COULD BE NEXT TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT. AMENDMENT WAS WHEN YOU HAVE NON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. YOU HAVE A 15 FT LANDSCAPE AREA. ONE TREE. RECOVERY. BUT LARGE TREE DECIDUOUS TREE EVERY THREE INCHES. ALRIGHT THREE INCH CALIBER EVERY 30 FT SO THAT THAT'S NOT CHANGING. UM WHAT IS CHANGING AND LOOKING AT IT THERE? THERE ARE SPECIFIC MODIFICATIONS TO THAT, FOR CERTAIN USES SO USES WITH TRUCK DOCKS AND LOADING SPACES JUST TO MAKE THINGS CONSISTENT. UM THERE'S PROPOSED CHANGED THAT THE TREES WOULD BE EVERGREEN.

AND, UM. REACH THE 15. THEY'RE ALREADY EVERGREEN BUT REACHED THE 15 FT HEIGHT. WHATEVER MATURE. AND THEN THAT IT WOULD BE REQUIRED ADJACENT TO ANYTHING. RESIDENTIAL ZONE OR SHOWN AS RESIDENTIAL IN THE FUTURE LANDINGS PLAN. MR CURIOSITY QUESTION. WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME FROM TO REACH THEIR 15 FT. ENDS ON HOW WHAT SPECIES IT IS AND HOW BIG IT IS WHENEVER

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LET'S JUST GENERICALLY SAY A NON EVERGREEN TREE. ABOVE AND BEYOND THE MINIMUM. WELL THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT. SO THAT'S YES. THAT'S CORRECT. COULDN'T PUT A SIX INCH TO SIT. IT WAS TREE CALIBER DECIDUOUS TREE AND YOU COULDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT WITH IT. BUT YOU COULD IF YOU WANTED TO.

YOU COULDN'T SUBSTITUTE IT. IT STILL HAS TO BE EVERYTHING. OKAY? BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT PREVENTS PEOPLE PUTTING MORE. THAN WHAT THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO. THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AROUND THE DRIVE THROUGH SECTIONS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IS A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT THAT'S IN AN OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. IT'S GOT A KROGER OR IN HBV, OR BLOW. OBSERVE THE OTHER THINGS. ALL THAT PARKING ALL THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS THAT SURROUND THAT WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. THOSE CAN ALL BE ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF TREES AND SUCH, BUT TYPICALLY , THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LIVING SCREENS AND, YES, A TREE THAT'S LOST ALL OF ITS LEAVES FOR FOUR MONTHS MAY STILL BE ALIVE, BUT IT'S NOT MUCH OF THE SCREEN. IF ALL YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TWINS THAT ARE LEFT ON THE TREE TO THE LEAFS. COME BACK. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ATTEMPTING TO DO. IS ALLOW THAT LIVING SCREEN TO ACTUALLY FUND FUNCTION LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO. WE LET PEOPLE NOW Y'ALL MAY RECALL AND SOME INSTANCES WITH SCHOOLS THAT HAVE COME IN FOR BUILDINGS AND SUCH. WOW. THEM TO

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PROBABLY NOT THE BEST THING TO DO. CERTAIN LANDSCAPING CONDITION. AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. SEPARATE FROM MISS, BUT WE ARE WORKING. MY HAS SOME SPERM SHRUBS THAT SCREEN. DOORS THAT ARE RIGHT OFF OF KUWAIT AND THE SHRUBS HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF THE HEAT. EVERGREENS REAL HARDY FOR THE HEAT, WHICH IS GOOD. PLUS, THEY DON'T HAVE LEAVES. THIRD IS THE LANGUAGE AS IT WOULD BE. SO THE NEXT SECTION IS NON RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO NON RESIDENTIAL YOU MAY BE YOU WELL VERSED IN THIS, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TWO NONRESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO ONE ANOTHER EACH IS REQUIRED TO INSTALL A 5 FT WIDE LANDSCAPE AREA ALONG THE COMMON PROPERTY LINE. AND ENDS THAT 5 FT AREA, YOU WOULD HAVE ONE SMALL TREE. AND 15 GALLON SHRUB PLANTED EVERY 15 LINEAR FEET. ON THE TREES AND SHRUBS COULD BE CLUSTERED. THE 5 FT WIDE AREA COULD BE SHIFTED OR EVEN ELIMINATED. IF A LONGER DRIVE I'LL OR FIRE LANE TO ALLOW ACCESS TO PARKING ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. FAST DISCRETION. AND THEN THE 5 FT WIDE. AREA COULD BE ELIMINATED IF YOU HAVE BUILDINGS ATTACHED ON THE COMMON PROPERTY LINE. WHICH REALLY WOULDN'T BE THE CASE. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DRIVE THROUGH. SO UM, PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADD A COMPLETELY NEW SECTION JUST FOR USES CONTINUED DRIVE INS DRIVE THROUGHS OR THOSE THAT REQUIRE STACKING. IT WOULD REQUIRE A 10 FT WIDE LANDSCAPE AREA ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE SET OF FIVE THERE WOULD BE EVERGREEN TREE MINIMUM THREE INCH CALIBER, PLANTED EVERY 15 LINEAR FEET RATHER THAN THE SMALL TREE. AND THEN A FIVE GALLON SHRUB PLANTED EVERY 3 FT RATHER THAN ONE. DID EVERY 15 PIECES. THERE WOULD BE NO ALLOWANCE TO CLUSTER THE TREES AND THE SHRUBS. THEREFORE IT KIND OF JUST GIVE THAT NICE SPREAD OUT. SCREEN. AND LIVING. GREEN AND. WHEN I SAY LIVING SCREAMING, I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE BULL LIVING SCREEN, BUT THE TREES. AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE AREA COULD BE SHIFTED TO THE EDGE OF A FIRE LANE. SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU HAVE YOUR PROPERTY LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF A FIRE LANE YOU JUST SHIFT THAT 10 FT. THIRD THAT 10 FT LANDSCAPE AREA OVER TO THE EDGE. AND THEN YOU COULD NOT, THOUGH, ELIMINATE IT. THAT'S THAT IS A DIFFERENCE. UM THIS OTHER SECTION? I HAVEN'T PARENTHESES, IT SAYS WHEN I DRIVE THROUGH IS AT THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE, A 10 FT ISLAND COULD FULFILL THAT REQUIREMENT. THAT'S TECHNICALLY IN ANOTHER SECTION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT IT OUT SINCE THEY GO HAND IN HAND.

THAT IS THE NEW ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ADDRESS JUST STACKING OR THE 10 FT WIDE PERIMETER. THEY HAVE NON RESIDENTIAL TO NONRESIDENTIAL FOR THESE TYPES OF USES, AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES. HOPEFULLY HELPFUL, UM, SO SHRUBS WOULD NO LONGER BE ABLE TO BE CLUSTERED. YOU CAN SEE IN THAT TOP PICTURE THAT THEY'VE KIND OF PLUS OR THE SHRUBS ALTOGETHER INSTEAD OF HAD THEM SPREAD OUT THE TREES WOULD BE EVERGREEN. AND BE ABLE TO REACH 15 FT IN HEIGHT, WHEREAS THIS HAS THE DECIDER OF SMALL TREES. AND THEN THE BOTTOM PICTURE IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF

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SO I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE. SO THE ONLY CHANGE WOULD BE INSTEAD OF A SMALL TREE. WE HAVE AN EVERGREEN AND IT DIDN'T. SINCE SEEMED LIKE THAT WOULD BE AN OKAY TRADE WITH THE 15TH. BUT I GUESS TO YOUR PICTURE. I THINK THAT YOU'RE A PICTURE ON THE NEXT PAGE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. BUT I REALLY WOULDN'T WANT WHAT'S ON THE BOTTOM, RIGHT EITHER. SO NO AND YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T GO OUT AND ACTUALLY MEASURE THAT. I THINK THEY'RE CLOSER THAN 15. FT AT WELL LOOK LIKE MAYBE 10 FT TOGETHER, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHEN I LOOKED AT THE AERIAL. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME TRIANGULAR. IT WAS MORE JUST TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SMALL TREE AND WHAT AN EVERGREEN TREE COULD LOOK LIKE WHERE IS A SMALL TREE THERE? LIMBED UP. YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE TRUNK. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TOP, WHEREAS AN EVERGREEN TREE WOULD GIVE YOU THAT FULLNESS ON THE BOTTOM WHERE YOU HAVE THE CARS. YEAH. LIKE THE TOP PICTURE. IF THEY WERE EVERGREEN TREES. I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THAT LOOKS WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY PREFERRED THAT OVER WITH THE BOTTOM, RIGHT. LOOKS LIKE AS SMASHED TOGETHER. BOTTOM, RIGHT? THOSE THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OR SPECIES OF EVERGREEN SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PLANNED. I'LL EVERGREEN TREES DON'T GROW LIKE THAT, AND THEY DON'T GROW UP TO BE 4550 OR 60. FT. TALL. THOSE ARE CLEARLY GOING TO STILL BE TALLER THAN WHAT THEY ARE NOW AS THEY CONTINUE TO GROW, SO THEY SHOULDN'T DIDN'T PLAN IT THERE. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T NECESSARILY GO BACK AND FIX FOR THINGS THAT WEREN'T CHECKED AT THE BEGINNING. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THERE'S A LIST LAND. IT'S CALLED OUT WHAT THE PARTICULAR TYPE OF TREE THE VARIETY OF THE SPECIES, ETCETERA. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CHECKED. THE PLANE DEPARTMENTS TAKEN THAT OVER NOW. IT USED TO BE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND BEFORE THAT, I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT WAS. I THINK EVEN ENGINEERING WAS CHECKED. FOR A WHILE, BUT THE REASON THOSE THOSE LOOK SO CLOSE TOGETHER IS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE WORLD. VARIETY OF TREE YES OR EVERGREEN. BUT REQUIREMENT IS ONLY THAT THEY GROW TO A HEIGHT OF 15 FT. NOT THAT THEY GROW TOO. HOWEVER THEY COULD GROW, HOWEVER, TYLER LINCOLN GROW, SO THAT IS NOT KIND OF SEE. IN GENERAL OR COMMON OCCURRENCE AND WE AGREE.

IT IS NOT IDEAL GOAL. OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE STRIVING FOR. SO WHAT DOES BEHIND THIS AMENDMENT IS WHEN THE PERSON COMES FOR APPROVAL, THERE'S A LIST OF APPROVED EVERGREEN TREES THAT THEY HAVE SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. YES, SIR. OKAY. LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A CHART. IS ACTUALLY ON THE SITE PLAN THAT THAT TELLS THE VARIETY TELLS THE SPECIES. UM AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW HOW BIG IT'S GOING TO BE. AND SO THE EVERGREEN OR NOT EVERGREEN, SAME WITH THE SHRUBS.

AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE LISTED AND COULDN'T TELL. IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YOU CAN TELL WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AT THE TIME IT GETS TO ITS MATURITY AND HOW LONG IT'S GOING

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REQUIREMENTS ALONG THE PERIMETER. OTHER THAN PERHAPS THE NORTH SIDE. WHERE IT IS ALSO PART OF THE DRIVE. THE DRIVE THROUGH. THEN THE REQUIREMENTS THE REQUIRED 10 FT. LANDSCAPE ISLAND AROUND THE DRIVE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, TO THAT POINT ON THE NORTH SIDE BEING ALLOWED TO COUNT THAT 10 FT PERIMETER AS ALSO THE 10 FT DRIVE. THRU IS SHOWN ON NUTS, SOUTH SIDE WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIRE LANES, SO THEY'VE MOVED. THE 10 FT. UH TO THE NORTH AND THEN THAT IS ALSO UM, DO DUPLICATED AS THE DRIVE THROUGH THE SCREEN. TEMPER DRIVE. WHICH WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO YET. WE'LL TALK ABOUT. OKAY SO LANDSCAPE ISLAND AROUND THE DRIVE THROUGH. WE HAVE THIS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. IT APPLIES TO USE IS WITHIN WITH DRIVERS FOR DRIVE INS. TOM'S 10 FT AROUND THE OUTER EDGE OF THE DRIVE THRU LANE. FOR A MINIMUM DISTANCE EQUAL TO THE LENGTH OF THE REQUIRED STACKING SO THAT CLARIFIED A COUPLE OF THOSE POINTS THAT IT'S REQUIRED FOR ANYTHING CONTAINING A DRIVE IN DRIVE THROUGH AND THOSE THAT REQUIRE STACKING, BUT THAT THE ISLAND IS INTENDED TO WRAP NOT ONLY THE STACKING, WHICH IS THE IDEA BEHIND THE ORDER POINT, BUT THE ENTIRE DRIVE THRU AREA FROM FROM ENTRY TO EXIT. AND THEN.

EVERGREEN OR DECIDE JEWESS TREES THREE INCH CALIPER PLANTED 15 REPEAT ON CENTER. THAT'S REQUIREMENT AND WE CHANGED IT TO JUST EVERGREEN. AND. RIGHT NOW. MINIMUM FIVE GALLON SHRODES WOULD BE PLANTED EVERY 3 FT ON CENTER. I. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY CHANGES TO THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU COULD SUBSTITUTE ALL THE SHRUBS FOR ORNAMENTAL TREES, AND WE COULDN'T CHANGE THAT SLIGHTLY TO ALLOW A MIXTURE AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD JUST REVIEW. AS EVERY PLAN COMES TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A BALANCE. BETWEEN ORNAMENTAL TREES WHICH DO FLOWER AND HAVE A GREAT CANOPY. BUT UM, THE SHRUBS KIND OF FILL IN THE GAPS ON THE BOTTOM, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A GOOD SUB MAKE SURE THERE AND THEN CURRENTLY THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND IS LOCATED ON THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY. THE PERIMETER LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE APPLIED FOR THAT REQUIREMENT THAT HASN'T CHANGED. WITH THE TEXT MEMO LOOKS LIKE GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES WHERE UH, THE ISLAND. ON THE DRIVE THROUGH TO THE LEFT. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WELL. FIRST, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A 10 FT. 10 FT PERIMETER. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND WOULD HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM OF 10 FT. RIGHT THERE. AND THEN ON THE DRIVE THROUGH TO THE RIGHT. THE 10 FT ISLAND WOULD HAVE TO WRAP THE ENTIRE DRIVE THROUGH AREAS SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT I BELIEVE THE CALL BOXES DIRECTLY, LIKE STRAIGHT NORTH IN THE MIDDLE THERE AND THEN THE DRIVE THRU WRAPS DOWN AROUND THE. THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT BUILDING SO THAT ISLAND WOULD ALSO HAVE TO COME DOWN AND THEN HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. FLOATING IN SPACE AND STACKING

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RIGHT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ESCAPE PLANE. IT DOESN'T IT WOULDN'T COMPLY WITH NOT HAVING ENOUGH.

NEVER. YEAH. THE STREET IN THE BUILDING. OKAY. LOCATION OF REQUIRED SCREENING. THIS WAS A PRETTY SIMPLE AMENDMENT. UM IT WAS JUST WE ADDED THE 8 FT SCREENING WALL REQUIREMENT FOR LOTS OF DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT DRIVE IN RESTAURANT OR AUTOMOTIVE. INTO THIS SECTION, SO IT WAS ANOTHER SECTION. WE STUCK IT HERE BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH WALLS. AND THEN WE CLARIFIED THAT THAT'S REQUIRED WHEN ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL HIS OWN PROPERTY OR PROPERTY RESIDENTIAL IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. THERE'S A WORD MISSING. ON THAT FIVE POINT TO A WHERE IT'S BLUE. OKAY? THE FIRST SENTENCE WORDS THIS ANY LOT CONTAINING CONTAINING DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT TODAY. THEN THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE. IT MENTIONS HAVING A SOLID SCREEN WALL ER FENCE, NOT LESS THAN 6 FT, OR MORE THAN 8 FT. AND THEN THE PARAGRAPH THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS, UH, SCREENING WALL OF 8 FT. SO ONE IS 6 TO 8 FT. IN THE OTHER ONE IS 8 FT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. RIGHT? SO IF YOU HAVE A LOT THAT WHAT SAY YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL CORNER? THE WHOLE THE WHOLE THING. YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP IT. YOU WANT TO 6 FT WALL, OR YOU COULD DO A SEVEN OR AN 8 FT WALL BECAUSE THERE'S RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO IT. BUT IF YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE TYPES OF USES IN YOUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THAT AREA SPECIFICALLY THAT'S ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. IF THAT LOT IS ADJACENT AREAS VISUALLY, IT HAS TO BE A FEED NOW. DEVELOPERS MAY NOT WANT TO BUILD A 6 FT BALL THAT GOES UP TO 8 FT. IN THE BACK DOWN THE SIX THEY MIGHT JUST CHOOSE TO DEVELOP. WHAT WITH THE ENTIRE THING IS MAKE PUT LONG. AND AGAIN THAT. THOSE TWO REQUIREMENTS ARE CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE. THEY'RE JUST IN DIFFERENT SECTIONS RIGHT NOW.

UM ADJACENCY OF CERTAIN USES TO RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS WHERE THAT ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT CAME FROM, UM, CURRENTLY APPLIES. TO DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS IN RESTAURANTS AND OUR AUTOMOTIVE USES, WHICH ARE SPECIFICALLY DEFINED IN THIS SECTION. SO THE CHANGES MADE WERE THAT WE JUST APPLIED NOT ONLY TO RESIDENTIAL WHEN IT'S ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, BUT AGAIN ISN'T TO ANYTHING ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. AND THEN,

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ALRIGHT SO I WANT TO LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SUMMARIZING THIS IN MY SO IF I HAVE A DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT THAT'S NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA NOW. UNDER THESE NEW THINGS I HAD TO HAVE AN 8 FT WALL. 15 FT PERIMETER LANDSCAPING AREA. 9 FT. YES K PLANE, 10 FT DRIVE THROUGH LANDSCAPED AREA. SO I'M UP TO 25 34 FT OF JUST LANDSCAPE AREA, NOT COUNTING THE WIDTH OF WATER THE WALL AGAINST THE WALLS ON THE ON THE PERIMETER AREA. AND THEN PLUS WHATEVER ON THE OTHER SIDE, IF IT'S A WRAP AROUND, AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER 10 FT. THERE. THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE A RESIDENTIAL AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO IT JUST BE A 10 FT AREA ON THAT OTHER SIDE.

SO YOU KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UM. 30 YARDS, YOU KNOW, 30 LINEAR YARDS OF JUST LANDSCAPE BEFORE YOU EVEN START BUILDING THE BUILDING EXACTLY. IS THAT A CORRECT THAT'S CORRECT, BUT I'LL SAY THAT EVERYTHING IS THE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE NEW ARE THE 10 FT. SORT OF 5 FT, ADJACENT TO OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. AND THEN ALSO, THERE WOULD BE A 200 FT DISTANCE ALREADY IF YOU HAD RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO A DRIVE THROUGH SO AND THAT'S THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT. IT'S JUST THAT THERE ISN'T AN ALLOWANCE TO BRING IT CLOSER IF CALLED FOR THE SPEAKER BOXES LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE, SO, YES, YOU ARE CORRECT, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT? WE'VE CHANGED FROM CURRENT ORDINANCES. LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT IS IN A NON RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE'VE ADDED 5 FT. EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY CONSISTENT. YES WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE YES. THAT WE'RE CLARIFYING AS YOU SAW IN THE EXAMPLE. SOME HAVE AN ESCAPE PLANE THAT'S JUST A LITTLE FRIED. YOU KNOW, OR OR THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND AROUND DRIVE THROUGH, WASN'T SUPPOSED, WASN'T YOU KNOW? CARRIED THROUGH ALL THE WAY. SO YES, I SAY THAT WITHOUT NECESSARY. I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING IT CRITICALLY. I'M JUST SAYING IT REALISTICALLY, WE'RE TAKING UP A PART OF THE PROPERTY. SIGNIFICANTLY WITH A LOT OF LANDSCAPE BEFORE WE EVEN START WITH PARKING. THE PARKING SPACES , A DRIVE THROUGH A DRIVE AREA IN THE PARKING AREA. WE HAVEN'T GOT A BUILDING ON THERE YET, SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DRIVE THRU BUSINESS IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A PRETTY SIZABLE LAW, TOO. EVEN THAT WAS I WAS JUST MAKING THAT POINT. THE COMMISSION OF CARS IN THAT WITH THESE NEW RULES. TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DRIVE THROUGHS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ENOUGH PARKING TO SUPPORT ALL OF THAT. YEAH JUST JUST SAID ENOUGH PARKING OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT. IT'S CERTAINLY MAKES A BIGGER LOT. SO IT'S MORE COSTLY AND STUFF. SO YOU'RE SO THE NET EFFECT OF THIS IN TERMS IS DEFINITELY TO RESTRICT. WELL AND TO THAT 0.1 OF THE ONE OF THOSE SUGGESTIONS AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS STATED RESTRICT DRIVE THROUGH HIS BY LOT SIZE. AND SO THE RESPONSE THAT I PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT WAS THAT IT WOULD NOT RESTRICT DRIVE THROUGHS. BY LOT SIZE. HOWEVER THE LOT SIZE WOULD CERTAINLY INCREASE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE FACTORS ARE ADDRESS. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M AGAIN. I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT SURE WHAT I THINK ABOUT ALL THAT, BUT I WAS ONE OF MIKE'S OR UNDERSTOOD. REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. IT DOES SEEM LIKE THE ENTRY. TO GET IN BUSINESS IF YOU'RE DROPPED THE RESTAURANT WITH ALL THESE NEWS

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WHAT'S THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD ASK. WHAT'S A MAJOR THROW AFFAIR? FOUR LANES VERSUS TWO I BELIEVE THERE'S A WIDTH REQUIREMENT. UM SO IT COULD BE FOUR LANES NOW, BUT IT COULD BE SIX LATER. FIRST THOSE ARE ALL PRESTON. WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND CEREAL IS AWARE OF HAS ALL OF THE STREETS THAT ARE ON THERE, NOT THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS BECAUSE THOSE DON'T COUNT FOR ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE FOUR LINES ARE ABOUT. THE LANE, SIX LANES A LOT OF OUR FOUR LANE ROADS AND ENCOUNTERED GOING TO BE SIX LANES. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHEN YOU KNOW MIGHT BE 10 YEARS MIGHT BE 20 YEARS MIGHT BE THREE YEARS, BUT UM, AND SEVERAL OF THE TWO LANE STREETS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS THOROUGHFARES ARE COLLECTORS ARE GOING TO BE FOUR LANES. I CAN'T THINK OF AN INSTANCE RIGHT NOW. WHERE WE HAVE EVEN THE POSSIBILITY. I'M HAVING. A COMMERCIAL CENTER. FAST. PLACE. DIRECTLY ACROSS A NEIGHBOR. ST WITH THE HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE TYPES OF ZONING SITUATIONS IN PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE THAT COMMERCIAL ZONING RIGHT ACROSS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREET FROM THAT THE RESIDENCES THAT ARE THERE HADN'T SAID THAT IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THERE'S ONE OUT THERE? YES BECAUSE I YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY MEMORIZED IN MY HEAD. I'M TRYING, BUT I'M NOT THERE YET. BUT THAT'S NOT THE INTENT. OF EITHER. THE ORDINANCE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN OR THE INTENT. WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESSES. IT USUALLY IS JUST IN . IN SOUTH DOES HAPPEN ACROSS THE AFFAIRS AND COLLECT AND THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE. IT'S THE BAD SO YOU'LL HAVE TO WALK. THE LANDSCAPE. IN THE BACKYARD. AND THE RIGHT OF WAY. WORKING LOT. ON THE RESTAURANT SIDE. IN YOUR BACKYARD. POTENTIAL SIDE THAT'S PROBABLY. THE ONE THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE LIKE. TWO MONTHS AGO, WE APPROVED DUTCH BROTHERS. RIGHT BY REYNOLDS. I BELIEVE, AND I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THAT THAT'S PROBABLY WITHIN 200 FT. OF THE ROYAL HOUSES. THAT'S JUST THERE WAS ONE OF THOSE COMING TO MIND. AND THEN TO YOUR POINT ON THE THOROUGHFARE. I WOULD NOT CALL STREET THAT IS THAT GOES MORE SOUTH RIGHT OFF. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. FRONT ROCKER, YOU

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THANK YOU. THAT'S THE ENTRANCE THAT WILL ALREADY. I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE ALL THE SLIDES YOU PUT TOGETHER WITH THE PICTURES. IT DID. BRING UP SOME JUST THOUGHTS IN MY HEAD ON ON THE LANDSCAPING WITH THE EVERGREENS. AND IT REALLY COMES INTO THE 15. FOOT MINIMUM. BECAUSE YOU SHOWED THE ONE PICTURE OF THE ONES THAT REALLY TALL. YEAH. YEAH, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU DIDN'T SHOW US A PICTURE OF ONES THAT WERE 15 FT, WHERE THE AND THAT'S THAT'S THE MINIMUM. IT'S MINIMUM 15 FT. AND I THINK ABOUT I THINK ABOUT THE GATES OF PROSPER, AND WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW. DRIVE THROUGHS IN THE GATES OF PROSPER. WE'VE GOT A FEW IN THERE AND IF WE HAD 15 FT EVERGREENS WRAPPED AROUND THOSE THOSE AND DRIVE THROUGHS. IT WOULD CHANGE THE LOOK OF GATES OF PROSPER, AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE FOR THE BETTER. IN MY OPINION. HAVING 15 FT PLUS EVERGREENS WRAPPED AROUND THOSE DRIVE THROUGHS. AND SO THAT IS MY CONCERN. I THINK HAVING SOME LOWER EVERGREENS, I THINK MIGHT BUT IF WE START GETTING MORE, THEY'RE BUNCHED UP LIKE THAT PICTURE. JUST IT TO ME. IT LOOKS SLOPPY. AND SO THAT IS THAT IS A BIG CONCERN OF MINE WITH FROM A LANDSCAPING STANDPOINT, THEN WE GET INTO THE AND SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS WHAT IS THE WIDTH OF A 15 FT. NOT THE CALIBER, BUT THE WIDTH OF THE TOTAL BASE OF 15. FT. EVERGREEN. IS IT? IS IT 10 FT. SO DOES IT. MEET THAT 10 FT. I ISLAND. OR IS IT 8 FT BECAUSE 10 FT THAT'S EXPENSIVE LANDSCAPING FOR A BUSINESS. RIGHT? AND I JUST. I DON'T LIKE PUTTING THAT TYPE OF RESTRICTION ON A BUSINESS FOR SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD BE USABLE SPACE FOR THEM. IF WE GO TO 80 IF IT'S 8 FT. I THINK IT'S AND THAT THOSE ARE THOSE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY THOUGHT PROCESSES ON ON ON SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING ASPECT OF IT. THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK ARE A REASONABLE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN WAS TALKING ABOUT? I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WE'RE JUST GETTING REALLY, REALLY AND I GET THE REASONS WE'RE DOING IT. BUT. I THINK THAT THE RESIDENTS IN IN THE PROSPER ARE LOOKING FOR SOME DRIVE THROUGHS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY. GO OUT OF BUSINESS THAT I KNOW OF. AND SO THEY'RE BEING USED, AND BUT I DO THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO BE RESTRICTED TO AN EXTENT, BUT WE'VE JUST GOT TO BE WE'VE GOT TO MAKE IT WHERE IT'S NOT SO RESTRICTIVE THAT THEY JUST WON'T COME BECAUSE THE LAND IS SO EXPENSIVE HERE IN PROSPER. I WAS GOING TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT I AGREED TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE EVERGREENS, ELENA SENSE I CAN'T THINK OF AN AREA AND PROSPER, BUT AN AREA COMES TO MIND IN THE CITY TO THE SOUTH ON PRESTON AND ROLL LATER WHERE THE COALS IS. THERE'S A KOHL'S CVS AND THERE'S A LOT OF TREES IN THAT AREA TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE COALS. HE CAN'T SEE THE CBS AND SO, UM I FEEL LIKE WE NEED WE NEED THE GREENERY AND WE WANT THE GREENERY. I DON'T MY CONCERN IS HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH AND IS THIS TOO MUCH OR IS IT GOING TO BE TOO HIGH? AND I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT ANSWER TO THAT. BUT I THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH HAVING TOO MUCH AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE GATES PROSPER.

THAT THAT WOULD CHANGE THAT LOOK, AND I DON'T KNOW, NECESSARILY. IF I THINK THAT'S GREAT IF THEY WERE IF THERE'S SO MUCH GREEN GREEN THAT IT'S SHADING WITH THE BUSINESSES, AND YOU CAN'T SEE THE BUSINESSES BECAUSE THAT IS A REALITY AS AS THE TREES GROW. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE 10 FT. UM, LANDSCAPE. BORDER BECAUSE I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF GREENERY, AND THAT GOES A LONG WAY AND JUST KIND OF BREAKS UP THE CONCRETE. SO FOR ME, THAT'S A POSITIVE I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT ABOUT TREES SIZE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. JUST GONNA SAY THAT EXACT SITUATION CAME UP IN A DIFFERENCE. TOWN MEETING THAT EXISTS ON THE FIRST STREET OUTSIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT ACROSS THE STREET. I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED CEDAR. BUT THEY HAVE LARGE EVERGREEN TREES THAT ARE NOW ENCROACHING IN THE ROAD, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY CITED BY THE TOWN. BECAUSE EVERGREEN TREES WERE GROWING AND BLOCKING

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WHAT'S BEHIND IT? NOTHING PRESCHOOL. AND THEN THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL BEHIND IT. ONLY THING I WOULD ADD. WE'RE PICKING THIS APART BECAUSE THAT IS OUR JOB. BUT YOU DID A VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY THOROUGH SO DON'T TAKE ANY OF OUR QUESTIONS. I WOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED THE TRICK QUESTIONS. NO OTHER SPECIES. I WILL SAY ONE OTHER THING. I DO APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THOUGHTFULNESS AROUND THE DRIVE GOOSE. BECAUSE WITH COMMISSIONER HARRIS I DON'T SHOP ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN BECAUSE IT'S TOO CORRECT. MY MONEY IS NEVER SPENT OVER THERE. IT WAS JUST TOO CROWDED TO GO. DON'T GO TO THE CROW OVER THERE. GO TO THE CHROME ON PRESTIGE JUST BECAUSE IT IS TOO CROWDED. THANK YOU. I WANT TO GO AHEAD. THIS IS ADAM. FINE GONNA GO AHEAD AND WE CAN HAVE THESE COMMENTS AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM FIVE. IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE. I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT. DOES NOT. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND TAKE IT BACK. COMMISSIONERS AND COMMISSIONER BLAMES THAT YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO DO WAS JUST GONNA SAY I YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS SO WHILE AGO ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT THE EVERGREEN TREES. I THINK IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT THE FOCUS HAS BEEN IS ON SCREENING. AND I THINK. THE FOCUS SHOULD BE MORE ON THAT. SO THAT SOMETIMES YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT GONNA. HAVING ENOUGH TREES TO COMPLETELY BLOCKED THE VIEW OF THE DRIVE THROUGH IS LESS IMPORTANT TO ME AND JUST HAVING SOMETHING THAT LOOKS NICE, THOUGH. I CAN STILL SEE THE CARS. IN FACT, YOU KNOW IF YOU GOT ALL TREES, THEY'RE USUALLY HAVE THE TRUNK AND I'M STILL SEEING THE CAR'S EVERYTHING UNDERNEATH THE CANOPY , YOU KNOW, SO THE TREES AREN'T BLOCKING. IT'S REALLY THE MIXTURE OF THE TREES AND THE SHRUBS AND PRETTY COLORS AND THE FLOWERS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. I THINK THE PICTURE THAT YOU SHOWED HIM OF WATER. BURGER WILDER IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE DON'T WANT. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY DID NOTHING THERE

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WELL CURRENTLY, UM AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL TWO RESIDENTIAL. OKAY SO THERE THERE'S LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS IN THE PERIMETER AND THEIR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS IN THAT ISLAND. THAT'S AROUND THE DRIVE THROUGHS. YOU KIND OF HAVE BOTH. UM AND THEY BOTH BUT THIS ONE PARTICULAR THIS IS THE 10TH 10 FT. RIGHT NOW. IT'S 5 FT, WHICH IS KIND OF A SMALL AREA ACTUALLY FOR THE PLANTINGS, BUT IT'S 11 SMALL TREE AND ONE SHRUB. EVERY 15 FT. SO IF YOU KIND OF VISUALIZE THAT SO THIS. CHANGE WOULD JUST BE WITH THE TREE IS EVERGREEN NOW. AND THAT YOU WOULD HAVE MORE SHRIMPS. SHRIMPS ARE EVERY 3 FT. SO THAT'S REALLY THE CHANGE IN THAT, UM AND SO.

THE IDEA IS THAT YOU GET MORE OF A LONG TERM. ESPECIALLY AESTHETIC SCREENING. CALL IT SCREENING. IT'S CALLED LANDSCAPING. HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT WOULD BE MORE LOW.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING UP TO 15 FT. THAT THE EVERGREEN TREES COULD GROW TO 15 Z, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE SMALL TREES. I'M SORRY. I DON'T HAVE HOW HYPED SMALL TREES CAN GET. TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THEY'RE YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO FILL OUT ON THE TOP, SO THEY'RE GOING TO KIND OF MORE SCREAMED THE BUILDING. AND NOT WHICH IS LOWER. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THOSE REQUIREMENTS. WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS TO ME AGAIN. THE I THINK THE REPEAT THIS WHERE I THINK THE FOCUS AS WE TALKED ABOUT IT IS MORE ON SCREENING. AND I FEEL LIKE THE FOCUS SHOULD BE MORE ON AESTHETICS, WHICH DOESN'T NECESSARILY SCREEN EVERYTHING. IT JUST MAKES IT.

PRETTY LOOKING THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS AND SO I THINK WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SCREEN WE MAY ACCESS ACTUALLY GO ALL OVERBOARD IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF PLANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. NEXT. MAY NOT NECESSARILY NECESSARY, BUT I'M NOT ARBORIST, AND I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE PERSON.

I'M NOT A GARDENER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO I JUST KNOW I LIKE IT WHEN I SEE IT, YOU KNOW, BUT I SURE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO IT. BUT THAT'S THE CONCERN. I HAVE TWO ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TREES I MEAN, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT SO MANY LANDSCAPE AREAS IN TERMS OF THE PARAMETER PERIMETER AND AROUND THE DRIVE THROUGH YOU KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT FOR NEXT YEAR RESIDENTIAL IT'S 25 FT. OF LANDSCAPING OF SOME SORT. THAT'S A LOT OF TREES. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST. I AGREE. THAT COULD BE QUITE A BURDEN ON BUSINESS. BUT OKAY. I THINK IF I COULD ADD SOMETHING THAT THAT PICTURE EVEN TELL WHAT IT WAS. THE TREES WERE . OVERGROWN AS FAR AS BEING THE WRONG SIDE. YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT'S BEHIND THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT BUSINESSES THERE. THAT IS NOT WHAT ANY INTENT IS AS FAR AS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AS FAR AS AMENDMENTS OR ADJUSTMENTS TO IT? ITS TREES SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO BE THERE. BY FAR TOO BIG. YOU KNOW, AND EVERGREENS. COVER. MIDRANGE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF TREES. THERE ARE SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE AND HAVE. IT'S REAL COMMON. I'M TWO STORY HOUSES WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE 2 JUNE THURSDAY THAT ARE SITTING ON BOTH SIDES OF YOUR SIDEWALK THAT GO UP TO TWO STORIES. THOSE GROWTH. REALLY ABOUT 1516 1917. THERE. ACROSS THE BOTTOM. 5 TO 6 FT. AND SO THEY'RE MORE LIKE A COME. WHOLE SLEW OF JUNIPERS THAT DIFFERENT SIZES AND SHAPES. LIKE I SAID, THIS. THESE ARE NOT WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. THE 15 FT CENTERS. THAT WE'RE TALKING. IT ON CENTERS WITH THE 15TH BUT HEIGHT. ARE MEANT TO BE THE SMALLER VARIETIES OF THE EVERGREEN, SINCE IT'S NOT OUR INTENT TO COVER UP ALL THE BUILDINGS BEHIND THEM. IT'S NOT OUR INTENT TO HAVE THE YOU MIGHT DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WITH THE SCHOOLS WHERE THE SCHOOL DOESN'T WANT TO DO AN 8 FT WALL. THEY WANT TO DO A LIVING SCREEN. THIS

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SINCE OR SOMETHING, BUT THANK YOU, MR HAMBURG. YEAH, THE INTENT OF THAT PICTURE WAS SIMPLY JUST TO SHOW THAT EVER SCREEN SCREENS OR MORE FULL OR EVERGREENS ARE MORE FULL. AND YOU KNOW, WE GO TO THE BOTTOM THEY MAKE THEY MAKE GREAT LIVINGS GREAT. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THE IDEA. IF YOU PUT AN OAK TREE THERE, IT'S NOT GOING TO COME IN THE ROOM, BUT WE CONSTANTLY BE LIVING SCREEN. IT'S GOING TO BE TOO TOUGH. IN THE WATER. IN THE WATER BURGER PICTURE IT'S GOING TO BE, IT WOULD BE AN EVERGREEN IN BETWEEN EACH OF THE BY POLLS, FOR EXAMPLE. HOW WE'RE BEING.

WOULD YOU? WOULD YOU SWITCH OVER TO THE CHICK FIL A. SURE. AND STEP ONE QUESTION ON THAT PICTURE. WAS A VARIABLE. YES, OKAY. IT WAS. IT WAS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. OH, THE END PROGRESSION. THEY WERE. NO NO, WE'RE NOT VIOLATION RECIPE GET THOSE TREATS. SO ON ON THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE, THE ONE ON THE LEFT. HOW THEY'VE GOT THEIR THEIR DRIVE THROUGH. THE. THE ISLAND ON THE TOP AND THE CENTER ISLAND. WHERE THAT WHERE THE YOU GOT THE CAR THAT'S DRIVING THROUGH THE LANE. SO BOTH OF THOSE HAVE TO BE 10. FT. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE? BUT YOU KNOW THE NORTH WELL, DEPENDS ON WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE PROPERTY LINE IS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT ISLAND. ACTUALLY, IT'S JUST RAILING THERE. SO THAT WOULD BE 10 FT. AND IT WOULD SERVE TWO PURPOSES. ONE THE WRAP AROUND THE DRIVE THROUGH AND THE 10 FT. PERIMETER. CERTAINLY WHAT ABOUT THE CENTER? ONE WHERE THAT WHITE TRUCK IS? THAT THAT'S JUST AN ISLAND THEY PUT IN THERE TO HAVE SOME DEFINITION BETWEEN RIGHT THAT'S OKAY LIKE THAT. NOW. WE CAN TALK TO OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD CHANGE AS FAR AS BUT THE ISLAND'S YEAH, I'M TALKING ABOUT. FROM AN ISLAND STANDPOINT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 10 FT. THANK YOU. SURE. FOR THE SAKE OF POKING THE BEAR AND BEATING THE DEAD HORSE. COME BACK TO THE WATER BURGER PICTURE IF YOU DON'T MIND. NO I'M GOOD.

I'M GONNA SHUT UP AFTER THIS. JUST FOR THE IT'S 65 FT. BETWEEN THOSE TWO LIGHT POLES JUST SKILLS, MY IPAD, SO THOSE TREES THAT ARE THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY LET'S CALL THEM 15 FT APART.

JUST BEEN AROUND NUMBERS, AND THEY'RE NOT THREE INCH CALVARY EITHER. NO THE ONE THAT RIGHT

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THANK YOU AND WE DO HAVE A LANDSCAPE. PLANNER WHO DID TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND HE I REMEMBER.

HE KIND OF BROUGHT IT DOWN A COUPLE JUNIPER WAS ON THE LIST AND A COUPLE OTHER EVERGREENS.

UH, CHOSE TO KIND OF KEEP IT MORE BIG IN THE ORDINANCES JUST SAYING EVERGREEN, BUT NOTED.

YEAH, TAKE A LITTLE BIT. OKAY, FOLKS. OH YEAH. LET'S GO, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS, BUT I'D SAY, LISTEN, WALK AROUND, WING START WHATEVER IN IF ANY COMMENTS, AND WE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I WOULD THINK YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL TO HAVE FURTHER REVIEW BY LANDSCAPE ARBORIST. PERHAPS IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO PUT OUT THERE, BUT I THINK WE KIND OF TOUCHED ON A LOT. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID TO SOME EXTENT, SO AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS AT THIS POINT FOR ME, BUT THIS IS ADAM. NUMBER FIVE. WE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH, WE DID THAT.

WELL. AND IT GOES TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK. AND I ASK ONE QUESTION OF STAFF BEFORE WE ABSOLUTELY ONE MORE QUESTION IN LIGHT WATER BURGER. I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT SAYING YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE'VE BROUGHT UP TONIGHT. THE COMMENTS THAT THE DO THE STAFF FEEL LIKE WHAT YOU PRESENTED HERE STILL MEETS ALL OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE SUGGESTED, OR DO YOU NEED A CHANCE TO GO BACK AND RE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE THINGS? I THINK THAT IF WE I THINK THAT IT MEANS I THINK IT'S ADEQUATE. UM I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING HERE TONIGHT.

THAT CAUSED YOU TO THINK WE NEED TO RELOOK AT BATTERIES. BEFORE CITY COUNCIL NO. SO YEAH, I DON'T WANT I MEAN, I'M A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE GOOD ITEMS I DO. I DON'T KNOW. IT SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT BE OVERREACHING IN SOME AREAS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE FUTURE. FOR DRIVE THROUGHS AND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, AND HOW MANY WE HAVE SO I KIND OF SEE IT FROM ALL SIDES.

I SEE THE NEED FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS TO BE IN PLACE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO LIMIT A LOT OF THINGS AND THAT MAY BE GOOD. I GUESS I'VE GOT MIXED THOUGHTS. IT MAY NOT BE. I DON'T KNOW. SO YOU KNOW, SO HERE'S YOU KNOW, PRACTICALITY IF WE DO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND YOU WANT TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT'S OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO DO THAT. THE MOTION IS DENIED. I GUESS IT GOES TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK ANYWAY, CORRECT. THEIR THEIR NEXT MEETING. WHENEVER THAT IS YOU KNOW? ANOTHER OPTION IS TO TELL YOU WHAT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE REALLY? AND THAT OPTION, SO I THINK YOU GET THE TWO OPTIONS. THEY'RE NOT MY TWO CENTS, SIR. MINE IS THAT SUPPORT. I DON'T KNOW, MAN. I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES. I WOULD IT MAY TO JOSH'S POINT. MAKES SENSE TO ADD SOME CLARIFICATION IS TO THE TYPES OF EVERGREENS AND SOME VERY BROAD SORT OF DESIGNATION FOR TREES ALMOST LIKE SAYING WE JUST GOTTA HAVE A GREEN TREES LIKE WELL. THERE'S A LOT SO I WOULD. THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY. LET'S SPECIFY THE TYPE OF TREE THAT WE WOULD LIKE THERE. UM BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU KNOW NOT NOT NOT ONE PARTICULAR ONE, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, I SUGGEST THERE I MEAN, I THINK FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK WE AS A COMMISSION OR QUALIFIED TO DECIDE WHAT KIND OF TREES KNOW IF THERE'S ANY LANGUAGE CHANGES SHOULD BE MADE.

IT SHOULD BE A STATEMENT THAT EVER IT CAN BE EVERGREEN TREE AS APPROVED BY THE CITY ARBORIST OR CITY LANDSCAPE PLANNER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. TO TAKE THROW IT BACK TO THE EXPERTS THAT KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND CAN ACHIEVE IT, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE EITHER THAT OR IT COULD BE SOMEONE I THINK YOU SAID YOU HAD A LANDSCAPING PLANNER. YEAH I HAVE THEM. BUT

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ALSO WE HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION. THAT'S PART OF OUR DEPARTMENT. THE GREAT DEAL OF WHAT THEY DO. DEAL WITH DIFFERENT BUSINESSES. YOU HAVE NOT. DONE A VERY GOOD JOB AND MAINTAINING THEIR LANDSCAPING. HAVE DEAD DREAMS AND THAT OTHER THINGS AND YOU WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY AMAZED. HOW MANY DIFFERENT COMPLAINTS THAT GET CALLED IN STANDING ON OUR HOTLINE OR TRASH GATE OPEN IN THE TREE WE COULD PROBABLY USE THE LAWYER OF THOSE PEOPLE HELP STAY CAUGHT UP, BUT NO, THAT'S A BIG DEAL. PART OF WHAT THEY DO. I WANT TO WAIT A FEW MORE MINUTES. DO WE NEED TO GO INTO RECESS? LET'S TALK MORE ABOUT THIS. LET'S GET YOU AT THE BOTTOM, RIGHT? YEAH ALL RIGHT, SO I THINK IT'S EVERYONE'S OUTLINED. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES CAN I INTRODUCE YOU REMEMBER COLLEGE? LONGEST CLASS YOU HAD, LIKE 15 MINUTES BECAUSE RECESS HERE IN A MINUTE IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE MOTION, THE ONLY QUESTION IS NUMBER FIVE COMFORTABLE WITH ADDING WITH THE REGULAR MOTION TO PASS. WITH UM, CARRY OUT THAT SAYS THAT WE WILL FIND THE LANGUAGE AROUND THE ALLOWABLE EVERGREEN. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WAS SAYING, THOUGH I THOUGHT EVERYBODY WAS SAYING CERTAIN ONES. THEY DON'T WANT CERTAIN ONES DON'T OKAY, SO JUST STRAIGHT PASS. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT GETS TO THE MAPPING IN DETAILS, OKAY? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR US TO PASS. UH UM.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. UM. STIPULATED JUST AS HAS WRITTEN AS AS PRESENTED BY TOWN STAFF.

OKAY VERY GOOD. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE FROM COMMISSIONER HARRIS. DO WE HAVE

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AND SO I REALLY THINK IN THE PUBLIC SESSION AS WE HAVE WE, AS WE'VE SAID HERE STAFF SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT SOMEHOW IT'S THAT WAS COMMENTS AND CONCERNS ARE GETTING THEIR EVEN BY THOSE WHO VOTED FOR AND NOT NECESSARILY JUST THOSE WHO VOTED AGAINST IT. BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS. YES SIR, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I AGREE, AND I GENERALLY TRY TO DO THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND TELL YOU I ALWAYS DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU EVER BRING UP BECAUSE THAT WOULDN'T BE ENTIRELY TRUE. BUT THE ONLY REASON I SUGGEST THAT SENT AN EMAIL TO US IS THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO THINK OF THAT DIDN'T COME UP TONIGHT. AND THAT WOULD BE THE DISH IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO BRING UP SINCE IT DIDN'T COME UP, BUT AS FAR AS THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THAT REALLY PRETTY CONSISTENT AMONGST ALL OF THE ALLY. DON'T THINK THERE WERE A BUNCH OF RADICAL IDEAS, I THINK JUST LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. AND I THINK THAT WE'RE PRETTY MUCH. DIFFERENT WAYS. MAYBE, BUT. REST ASSURED, I WILL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I'M SURE THEY READ OUR MINUTES AS WELL. THAT'S CORRECT. I'M SORRY. DO THEY READ OUR MINUTES AS WELL? SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK, AND I KNOW YOU WERE. THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ACTUALLY WATCHED THE VIDEO. BUT I WILL SAY THIS, BUT WHILE WE'RE ALL TALKING SO TALK TO THE MAYOR OF THIS AFTERNOON BRIEFLY AND HE JUST SAID HE WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW HE APPRECIATES WHAT EVERYBODY'S DOING ON THIS, AND HE SAID HE DID WATCH THE LAST MEETING OF THE MEDFORD SO I THINK SOME OF THEM DO. WHAT'S THESE VIDEOS? AND SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THAT IS A GOOD THING. BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE THEM FROM LOST

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[6. Review actions taken by the Town Council and possibly direct Town Staff to schedule topic(s) for discussion at a future meeting.]