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ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE, WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GETTING SOME.
I T ASSISTANCE AND A REAL TIME MANNER RIGHT NOW. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IT IS 6 15 ON TUESDAY,
[Call to Order/ Roll Call]
JUNE 27TH AND I CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER. OKAY CITIZENS AND OTHER VISITORS ATTENDING THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS SHALL OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL. ANY PERSON MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDERS REMARKS OR WHO BECOMES A BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL OR WHILE ATTENDING THE MEETING SHALL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM, SO DIRECTED BY THE MAYOR OF PRESIDING OFFICER AND THE PERSON SHALL BE BARRED FROM FURTHER TENANTS BEFORE THE COUNCIL DURING THAT SESSION. DISRUPTION OF A PUBLIC MEETING COULD CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF SECTION 42.05 OF THE TEXAS PENAL CODE. WE HAVEN'T ATTENDANCE TONIGHT. OUR MAYOR PRO TEM CRAIG ANDRES, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR, PRO TEM RAY. COUNCIL MEMBER, HODGES , COUNCIL MEMBER COTTON COUNCILMAN, CURRENT AND COUNCILWOMAN BARTLEY. AND NEXT MATT LANKENAU WITH GATEWAY CHURCH IS HERE TO PROVIDE. THE INVOCATION WILL FOLLOW THAT WITH OUR PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE. IF YOU WOULD ALL RISE, PLEASE. I BELIEVE MATT BROUGHT GUESTS. A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO, THEY ASKED DADDY I WANT TO BE UP THERE. I WANT TO BE ONE OF THEM ONE DAY, SO I FIGURED I'D BRING UP THE GENERATION. SO THREE POINT SERMON, 30 MINUTES IS WHAT I HAVE RIGHT? 45 THERE YOU GO.LET'S PRAY LORD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER GOD, WE THANK YOU THAT THE TOWN OF PROSPER IS A GENERATIONAL TOWN. AND LORD, WE THANK YOU THAT YOU'RE A GENERATIONAL GOD, YOU'RE A GOD OF UNFAILING LOVE AND FAITHFULNESS. AND SO, LORD, WE HONOR AUTHORITY HERE. GOD WE INVITE YOU INTO THIS PLACE. GOD WE THANK YOU FOR OUR LEADERSHIP , THE DECISIONS, DISCERNMENT AND WISDOM. THAT YOU GIVE THE LORD WE GIVE THIS TIME TO YOU AND JESUS NAME. AMEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MATH. DO YOU THINK THEY COULD LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? THEY WERE WILLING TO DO THAT. CAN YOU QUOTE IF YOU JUST PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN TO THAT? THE CULTURE. THANKS READY ? ALRIGHT. PLEASE JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PUBLIC GORGEOUS ONE MISSION. JUSTICE FOR ALL. NOW TO THE TEXAS FLAG.
HE'LL BE UP THERE. ON TEXAS. TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEP, COOL.
[Announcements of recent and upcoming events.]
ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK COUNCIL MEMBER CURRENT A READER ANNOUNCEMENTS. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THE ANNUAL PRIDE IN THE SKY INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION HELD BY SENATOR BURKE MEDIA WILL TAKE PLACE ON SATURDAY, JULY 1ST FRONTIER PARK FESTIVITIES BEGIN AT 5 P.M. AND WILL INCLUDE LIVE MUSIC KIDS OWNS FOOD GAMES AND FIREWORKS AT THE MUSIC CAME OUT FOR A NIGHT OF CELEBRATION AND FUN. HER REMINDER OF THE TOWN HALL OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON TUESDAY, JULY 4TH FOR THE INDEPENDENCE DAY HOLIDAY DUE TO THE HOLIDAY RESIDENTS WHOSE TRASH FALLS ON TUESDAY WILL BE DELAYED BY ONE DAY. DISCOVER DOWNTOWN SERIES CONTINUES SATURDAY, JULY 22ND WITH A COFFEE AND CHROME. CAR SHOW WITH WHICH WILL BE HOSTED BY THE PROSPER AT THE PROSPER TOWN HALL. PARKING LOT FROM 7 30. 10 30 A M. THIS EVENT WILL SHOWCASE VEHICLES AND EXHIBITS WITH CAR RELATED PRODUCTS AND SERVICES ARE VEHICLES ARE WELCOME, AND THERE'S NO CHARGE TO PARTICIPATE. APPLICATIONS ARE BEING ACCEPTED FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THE EVENT, VISIT THE TOWN'S WEBSITE FOR MORE INFORMATION. RESIDENTS CAN NOW REGISTER FOR SUMMER CAMPS OFFERED THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT VISIT THE TOWN'S WEBSITE FOR MORE INFORMATION. THE SUMMER SEASON OF THE MAYOR'S FITNESS CHALLENGE IS UNDERWAY AND LAST THROUGH AUGUST, 31ST STAY ENGAGED IN YOUR COMMITMENT TO FITNESS BY RECEIVING EMAILS ABOUT FUN GIVEAWAYS AND PROMOTIONS FROM OUR SUMMER FITNESS PARTNERS.REGISTER NOW TO BE INCLUDED IN THE FIRST GIVEAWAY, A NUTRITION WORKSHOP. LED BY LYNN LINHART.
VISIT THE PARKS AND RECREATION WEBSITE PAGE REGISTER, ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THIS YEAR'S CHALLENGE. LASTLY OUR COMMUNITY PROSPER COMMUNITY LIBRARY STAFF. SHARON ALDERTON AND LESLIE SCOTT PRESENTED THE POSTER SESSION AT THE AMERICAN LIBRARIES ASSOCIATION ANNUAL CONFERENCE ON JUNE 25TH. THEIR POSTER TITLED YOU CAN DO IT, PLANNING, MARKETING AND PRESENTING OPPORTUNITIES FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
HEAD OVER 300 ATTENDEES WERE STAFFERS SEE FEEDBACK AND HAD CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THEIR
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PROGRAMS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR THESE CHILDREN, SOME FAMILY THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHRIS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS? WE HAVE A PARADE ON THURSDAY. THERE IS A PARADE. YOU KNOW WHERE THE PARADE IS. I DO SYSTEMIC CLOCK RIGHT HERE AROUND OUR BUILDING.SO THE FOURTH OF JULY PARADE. SO UM, YEAH, AND SO OBVIOUSLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS TO COVER I LIKE TO THROW A ANNOUNCEMENT AND A THANK YOU TO CHIEF BLASTING GAME THAT PROSPER FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR HOSTING ME ON WEDNESDAY OF LAST WEEK. I WAS ABLE TO GO UP IN THE, UH LADDER TRUCK TO 87 FT. EXTENDED AND 89 FT HIGH AND IT'S THE BEST VIEWING PROSPER SO MORE IMPORTANTLY, JUST TO BE WITH YOUR FOLKS FOR A WHOLE DAY. I APPRECIATE THE HOSPITALITY AND THE HARD WORK THEY PUT IN EVERY DAY. THANK YOU, CHIEF. WITH THAT
[1. Receive an update regarding the road construction project located at First Street and Coit Road. (MC)]
WE'LL MOVE TO OUR PRESENTATIONS ARE FIRST PRESENTATIONS RECEIVE AN UPDATE REGARDING THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT LOCATED AT FIRST STREET AND QUITE ROAD. UNION WEB. EVEN MARRIED COUNCIL.I'M JUST GONNA JUMP UP HERE REAL QUICK, AND, UH, I WANT TO INTRODUCE. UH, BRAD MILLER WITH NICOLA. HE'S A VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS AND, UH HE'S GOING TO BE DOING THE PRESENTATION, AND I'VE GIVEN YOU AN UPDATE ON PROJECT. UH BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE UNFORTUNATELY, HAVE BRAD GET THE UPDATE TONIGHT BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS FOR CENA COLA, BUT HE'S ALSO A RESIDENT PROSPER. AND I KNOW TWO TOMORROW. WE'RE SELLING CELEBRATING. ONE OF ONE OF THE PROJECTS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART FRONTIER PARKWAY, AND, UM, HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL WITH HIS TEAM WHEN BRING THAT PROJECT IN EARLY SO I WANT MY TURNOVER BRAND, SO WE'RE FORTUNATE HAVE HIM AGAIN RESIDENT AND IN CHARGE OF THIS PROJECT. MAYOR COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE WITH YOU GUYS. THAT HUMANS. LITTLE BIT SURREAL TO GET THERE TO PRESENT AMONGST YOU GUYS AND THEN AND APPEARS AND MY NEIGHBORS AND THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING. UM, YOU KNOW, SO. AGAIN I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET BOTH PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY. UM AS YOU KNOW, CYNICAL THE BRAND IN EXCESS OF 50 YEARS, YOU KNOW, BEING AROUND HERE WERE MORE THAN HONORED AND PROUD TO BE PART OF THE SELECTION HERE TO BUILD THESE ROADS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY OF PROSPER, UM, AS AS PROSPER, DEVELOPS AND GROWS. THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY IT'S TWO MILES OF ROAD BRIDGE UNDERGROUND WORKS, SEWER WATER LANDSCAPE. UM, SOME TUNNEL WORK. HARDSCAPE. UM CONVERTING A TWO LANE ROAD TO FOUR LANE ROAD FROM COIT. TWO.
CUSTER ROAD. AND SO THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS OF PROCUREMENT. YOU KNOW, WE PARTNERED WITH THE TOWN AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. VALUE ENGINEERED A FEW THINGS. PROVIDED SOME SAVINGS TO THE CONTRACT. UM AND, ULTIMATELY, THE TOWN. UM AND WE'RE ABLE. TO EXPEDITER SCHEDULE TO ACCOMMODATE PROSPERED, UH, INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACCELERATION OF THEIR HIGH SCHOOL OPENING, SO THERE'S A LOT THAT WENT INTO THIS. THE ENGINEERING TEAM THAT THAT'S HERE AT THE TOWN OF PROSPEROUS BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL AND IN OUR SUCCESS. UM AND THE PROJECT'S SUCCESS AS WELL. SO IT'S A TRUE PARTNERSHIP DOESN'T ALWAYS COME ABOUT THAT WAY. AND OF COURSE OF BUSINESS. SO UM, YOU KNOW WHETHER WE GOT A GREAT STAFF HERE AND THEIR THEIR PLEASURE TO WORK WITH SO HERE'S OUR VIDEO. THIS JOB ORIGINALLY LED BACK IN JULY. 22. CAME THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS . WE DON'T ACTUALLY START WORK HERE TILL NOVEMBER. AND SO THE VIDEO ON THE LEFT IS NOVEMBER. VIDEO ON THE RIGHT IS SATURDAY THIS PAST SATURDAY. SO I'M GOING TO HIT PLAY AND JUST KIND OF WERE AT COIT ROAD AND WE'RE HEADING TO THE EAST. UM TOWARDS CUSTER ROAD. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PAYMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FUTURE WESTBOUND LANES. THE TOWN LIKE BOULEVARD HAD BEEN PAVED. UM NEXT WEEK ON WEDNESDAY. WE'RE SWITCHING TRAFFIC ON THIS AREA. ACCOMMODATE THE CONGESTION AT THE INTERSECTION. THEY'RE QUITE TO TOWN LAKE. SO WE'LL BE PUTTING PEOPLE ON NEW PAVEMENT THERE AT, UH FIRST TREAT THEIR TO TOWN LIKE BOULEVARD. YOU CAN ALSO SEE IS IT COMING INTO FOCUS HERE? THE BRIDGE BEAMS THEY WERE SET LAST WEEK. UM AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, ALL THE DECK PANELS ARE ON BOTH BRIDGES. UM SO WE'RE WE'RE PROGRESSING THAT WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A WE'LL COME BACK TO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT
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THE TEAM HAS WORKGROUP. BUT AS WE CAN CONTINUE PROGRESSING TO THE EAST THERE LOTS OF UNDERGROUND WORK TOOK PLACE ON THIS PROJECT STILL ONGOING HERE. UM ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD, FUTURE WESTBOUND LANES. WE'RE APPROACHING THE TUNNEL. FUNNELS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED. THAT'S A 10 BY 10 BOX CULVERT. BIG HEAD WALLS STARTED TO BE CAST IN PLACE. SO WORK ON THE FOUNDATIONS ACTUALLY TODAY. SO AS WE PROCEED TO THE EAST FOR COMING UP THE SUTHERLAND DRIVE.THAT TIES INTO BROOK HOLLOW. AND YOU CAN SEE THE PAYMENT THERE ON THE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE RIGHT SCREEN. THAT'S ALL PAID. ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FOURTH DRIVEWAY OF THE HIGH SCHOOL. AND WHILE THIS BRINGS THAT UP THERE WE WERE JUST I JUST LEFT THE MEETING WITH THE PROSPEROUS D.
PERSONNEL AND THEY'VE BEEN GREAT. THEIR CONTRACT HAS BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH COORDINATING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND THEY COULDN'T BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE. ON THE LAST REALLY TWO WEEKS. YOU KNOW IT, AND THAT'S THE THAT'S THE CHALLENGING THING FOR US IS A HORIZONTAL CONTRACTOR, RIGHT? SO YOU KNOW, FOR MONTHS, IT'S YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THEN YOU KNOW YOU RUN INTO THE INCLEMENT WEATHER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT IT'S ALL THE UNDERGROUND WORK BEFORE WE CAN COME IN THERE AND PAVE AND DO THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO NOW THAT PEOPLE CAN START TO SEE IT, AND THERE'S A LITTLE MORE TANGIBLE ITEMS ON THE GROUND. THEY UNDERSTAND THEY SEE THE PROGRESS. SO HERE WE ARE AT THE FRONT OF THE FUTURE HIGH SCHOOL. AND HERE'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CROSS OVER TO BRING TRAFFIC ON THIS PAVEMENT. UH, RIGHT. THERE'S A GRAND SHOW ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. WE'RE PROGRESSING HERE TO THE EAST. YOU KNOW, AND AS WE COME UP HERE TO THE FIELD, WE ALSO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, PARTNERING WITH THE CITY AND BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT GROWING OUTSIDE THE CORRIDOR. THE LIGHTHOUSE CHURCH CAME IN THERE. YOU KNOW THE PLANS WEREN'T READY. THIS WASN'T READY AND WE WERE ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR ENGINEERING TEAM AND THE CITY'S ENGINEERING TEAM AND OUR TEAM TO BE ABLE TO GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERNEATH THE ROAD. YOU KNOW, TO HELP YOU KNOW? WITH THE INTEGRITY OF THE ROAD ITSELF. UM THERE'S A PAYMENT OPERATION THAT WE WERE JUST FINISHING UP SALARIES IN THIS SECTION HERE IN THE FIELD.
YOU KNOW THAT'S WHERE THE CHURCH IS ON THE LIFTING INSIDE. IN THIS SECTION HERE WHERE WE HAVE BOTH THE LINES COMPLETE. AS WE APPROACH WHITLEY PLACE DRIVE. I'M GOING TO START WORKING ON THESE TURN LANES HERE THIS WEEK ARE SCHEDULED TO START SATURDAY. AS WELL AS OUR ALL OUR HAND POURED THROUGHOUT THE CENTER SECTION HERE, SO IT'S A COMPLETE REALIGNMENT. SO TO THE RIGHT IS MELBOURNE HILLS. ARE CONTINUING TO PROGRESS TO THE EAST. COMING UP THE FOUNDERS ACADEMY. SO YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK COMPLETED HERE. A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. ON THE LEFT AGAIN. THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, NOVEMBER WHEN WE STARTED THERE'S A MESSAGE BOARD DOWN THERE. AND THIS WAS HIS PAST SATURDAY. SO THE WHOLE TEAM IS REALLY DELIVERED. OUR COMPANY. THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. AND AN ENGINEER RECORD. SO. THAT KIND OF BRINGS US INTO CUSTOM ROOM. SO CHALLENGES RIGHT? YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PICTURE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS AS WE BUILD PROJECTS, YOU KNOW? THERE'S ALWAYS CHALLENGES ALONG THE WAY. TOTALLY CONFLICT, ESPECIALLY FRANCHISE UTILITIES. YOU KNOW A COORDINATING THEM, GIVING THEM RELOCATED AND WORKING AROUND THEM AND NOT JUST YOU KNOW, PRESENTING A PROBLEM AND RUNNING AWAY WITH FROM IT, LIKE MOST CONTRACTORS, WILL DO. WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN TRYING TO BRING A PROBLEM SOLUTION AND HOPEFULLY RESULT THAT IS APPEASING TO ALL PARTIES. SO UM HERE'S A CLASSIC EXAMPLE. THIS IS THE FUTURE WE HAD A COORDINATE BECAUSE THE POWER POLES ARE IN THE WAY THAT POWER LINES ARE IN THE WAY OF SETTING THE BEAM, SO WE HAD TO COORDINATE THE YOU KNOW THE SHUTDOWN OF THE ELECTRIC SAFELY. SAID THE CRANES BRING IN BIGGER EQUIPMENT TO DO SO THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST WHAT WE FEEL THAT WE CAN BRING TO THE TABLE AND WHY? WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU GUYS SELECTED US TO BE YOUR PARTNER. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT THAT AND WE ARE STILL ONGOING FRANCHISE UTILITY DELAYS. THERE'S YOU KNOW, THE ALIGNMENT ISSUES WE FACED WITH TEXT AND CUSTOMER ROAD. THERE'S A LOT OF YOU KNOW , SEWER AND WATER REDESIGN THAT
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HAPPENED AT THE BRIDGE. AND OF COURSE, IMPLEMENT WEATHER. SO OF COURSE OF ALL THESE CHALLENGES, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE UP THE TIME IN OUR SCHEDULE BECAUSE THE WAY WE DELIVER OUR WORK. AND THE TEAM THAT IS WORKING WITH US, YOU KNOW, STARTING WITH YOU GUYS AND YOUR STAFF HERE AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. THAT HELPS US ON OUR COMMITMENTS TO YOU GUYS, RIGHT? AND THE AND, ULTIMATELY TAXPAYERS. SO TOTAL PROJECT UPDATE. JUST KINDA REAL QUICK.THE UNDERGROUND WORK OR 75% COMPLETE WORK. WE'RE ABOUT 60% COMPLETE STABILIZATION 45 CONCRETE, PAVING 40 IN THE BRIDGE AND WALL CONSTRUCTION THERE OVER THE CREEK IS ABOUT 50. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THAT YOU KNOW THE COUNTDOWN TO AUGUST 8? SO WE'RE GONNA FINISH THE INTERSECTION AT QUITE MOVING TO THE EAST, BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH COUNCIL FOR THEIR APPROVAL FOR SOUTHBOUND IN TURN LANE TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THAT THAT SHOULD BE CUT. FORTHCOMING YOU KNOW, THE TOWN ASKED US TO HELP, SO WE HELPED WITH THE DESIGN AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SO WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THERE. UM YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE OF THOSE BRIDGES FULLY COMPLETE AND READY TO GO FOR THE TRAFFIC SHIFT. YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DIE IN THOSE GAPS THAT YOU SAW IN THE VIDEO, NOT MUCH LACKS. AND THEN PUT THE TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES IN OPENING TRAFFIC. SO THE MORAL IS WE'RE HERE TO DELIVER. APPRECIATE YOUR HELP IN DOING IT. WE COULDN'T DO WITHOUT YOU GUYS AND YOUR TEAM HERE. AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BRAD. SO IT'S ONE I'M GONNA REITERATE. FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC. YOU MIGHT BE LISTENING. AUGUST 8TH. WE'RE GOOD TO GO.
YES, SIR. OKAY. YEAH LET ME JUST CLEAR ONE MORE TIME. OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY. YEAH AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS GOING ON IN PROSPER. THIS IS THE MOST VISIBLE PROJECT. I HAD PEOPLE TALK TO ME ABOUT IT TODAY. WHILE I WAS IN THE DENTAL CHAIR. THE DENTIST WANTED TO MAKE SURE HER SON COULD GET TO WALNUT GROVE. I'M LIKE, YES, OF COURSE. YES YES. YES. SO UM, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT MERIT. IT DOESN'T GO MY MIND. SHE'S WALKING THE KIDS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERYONE'S LIKE, HEY. IF YOU WANT YOUR HUSBAND GOING TO BE DONE ON THE CAR. I DO WANT TO RELATE ONE INCIDENT THAT I HEARD ABOUT ON SATURDAY AND I KNOW BECAUSE YOU WERE LAYING YOU WERE LAYING BEAMS ON SATURDAY MORNING. THIS OCCURRED FRIDAY NIGHT, AND IT WAS A YOUNGER DRIVER. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THOSE S TURNS THAT ARE STILL UNDER OUR THEIR THEIR TEMPORARY AS TURNS. SUPPOSEDLY HE MISSED THE TURN AND ENDED UP STUCK ON SOME EMBANKMENT THERE ON SATURDAY MORNING. JUST SO I JUST SIMPLY ASK IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT IS CHANGING ALONG THE WAY AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT THEY WERE GOING AT A HIGHER RATE OF SPEED THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT TOOK FOUR ADULTS IN THE MORNING TO PUSH IT OFF. WHATEVER IT WAS SO OKAY. JUST SAFETY WISE, SO ABSOLUTELY.
AND WHEN DID WHEN? WHAT WAS THE TIMELINE ON THE COIT. SOUTHBOUND LEFT HAND TURN LANE. WELL WE FINISHED DESIGN AND WE GOT COMMENTS BACK THIS PAST WEEK, SO WE'RE JUST FINISHING UP THE FINAL PROPOSAL HOPE TO HAVE THAT IN TOMORROW. THAT WAS A REQUEST. SO THEN THAT SHOULD BE FORTHCOMING TO YOU GUYS. AND FOR EVERYTHING, TIMES OUT, RIGHT? I'VE BEEN THAT IT'S ASPHALT. I DON'T CONTROL THE PAVEMENT AS MUCH BUT I THINK WE CAN TIME IT OUT TO HAVE DELIVERED THAT AS WELL. SO, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION. FORWARD BECAUSE OTHERWISE ALL THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE PILED UP IN FRONT OF COUNCILWOMAN BARTLEY'S HOUSE. OH, YEAH, YEAH. OKAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ONCE YOU KNOW WHERE WE CAN CHARGE WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE PAPERWORK LATER. THAT'S UP TO HEALING. SO THE OTHER OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. SO IS THE WHOLE PIECE GOING TO OPEN IT ONCE OR LIKE, SPECIFICALLY, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE CURVE AND WHERE IT LOOKS FUNDAMENTALLY PAVED. ARE YOU GOING TO SWITCH TRAFFIC ONTO THE NEW REVISED CURVE SOONER THAN AUGUST. OR IS THAT IS IT GOING TO ALL JUST OPEN ALL AT ONCE? I'M GONNA SAY IT'S GOING TO OPEN UP FOR THE FOR AUGUST 8TH. BUT THERE WILL BE SOME INTERIM TRAFFIC SHIFTS THAT WILL PROBABLY DO AND THAT'LL PUT PEOPLE ON PAYMENTS SOONER. OKAY BUT YOU KNOW, JUST AS EVERYTHING I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS AREA, SO WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE RIGHT FOR OUR WORKERS AND OUR TEAMS, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE PUBLIC SO BUT ONE OF THE SOON AS WE CAN, WE WILL MOVE THEM ON THERE. AND THEN, UM SO THE ADDITIONAL PEACE AND HEALING YOU CAN MAYBE REMIND ME THAT THE ADDITIONAL LANES. WHAT'S THE TIME LANDING ON THAT AGAIN? YEAH, I'M QUITE SORRY. I'M LIKE THEY ON FIRST REMAIN, ER. SO TOWN LAKE AND
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QUITE NO, I WAS REFERRING TO FOR THE OTHER TWO LANES ULTIMATELY COMPLETE. YES ACTUALLY, I THINK WE'RE SHOWING END OF FIRST QUARTER OF 20. FOUR. I THINK THAT'S THE CONTRACT. YES I MEAN , IT'S GOING TO DEPEND AS A HEAVY LANDSCAPE HARDSCAPE PACKAGE ON THIS PROJECT, SO PLANTING SEASONS AND THINGS IF WE CAN GET THEM IN IN THE FALL OR THE WINTER SPRING. THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE DETERMINING FACTORS, RIGHT SO THAT'LL BE THAT'LL PLAY IN OUR DECISION ON HOW THAT THAT WRAPS UP, BUT WE WANT TO GET EVERYBODY ON NEW PAVEMENT, SO IT'S SAFE AND YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS AREN'T FIELDING PHONE CALLS, RIGHT? OKAY ONE QUESTION. MAYBE A REQUEST. CAN YOU BACK THAT UP TO THE BEGINNING OF THAT FILM THAT YOU HAD? THIS IS A GENERAL ORDER , NOT A CHANGE ORDER, BUT THAT LANE THAT WESTBOUND RIGHT? YES, UM LAID DOWN ALREADY? YES. YEAH.IT ISN'T POSSIBLE OR NO, IT'S WE'RE OPENING IN IN A MONTH OR SO. RIGHT? UM THAT ONE EXIT LANE OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGHT? TO YOUR LEFT MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME OUT TO QUITE TOWN LIKE BOULEVARD. YEAH. HOW I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT IT'S GOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, UH, PAINTED OR WHATEVER IT'S GONNA HAVE THE LINES PUT DOWN AND ALL THAT. I JUST THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ONE EXIT RIGHT LOT OF TIMES. IT'S BETTER NOW THAT SCHOOL IS OUT. BUT GOING SOUTH SOUTHBOUND . IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF THERE. SO IF THERE WAS JUST NOT EVEN AN ENTRANCE BECAUSE I KNOW WE COVERED THAT UP. BUT EVEN IF YOU COULD JUST HAVE ONE EXIT LANE THAT COMES OUT AND STICKS TO THE SIDE KIND OF OUT OF THE WAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW FEASIBLE THAT IS, BUT IT WOULD HELP A LOT, BUT WE CAN. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT WITH YOU AND COME UP WITH A PLAN TO SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT REQUEST LATER. YES WE GOT WE GOT REPORTED BACK. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE MY MOUSE UP HERE, BUT WHEN WE BRING THE TRAFFIC OFF HERE AND UNDER THE DETOUR, WE HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION. SO WE'RE PROBABLY KEEP THIS I CLOSED AND THEN THERE'S SOME SIDEWALK AND SOME ANCILLARY ITEMS THAT HAVE HAPPENED BEHIND THE CURB. ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE. YEAH WE COULD PROBABLY WORK SOMETHING OUT, BUT ULTIMATELY BE HUMANS DECISION IF POSSIBLE. WOW THERE YOU GO. ALRIGHT. PUT HIM IN THE HOT SEAT. SO WHAT WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE YOU HERE, BRAD ALSO, WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE MR TODD SHIRLEY WITH PROSPEROUS TEA WITH US TODAY. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING UP, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALIGNED ON THE DATES AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS AND I'M ASSUMING YOU PROBABLY CAME FROM THE SAME MEETING WITH HIM A LITTLE BIT AGO. I WAS LATE TO THAT MEETING, BUT I DID GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM OUR STAFF, AND WE'RE SUPER HAPPY WITH THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN THE PARTNERSHIP. EXPEDITED NATURE OF THIS PROJECT. WE UNDERSTAND THE . MOUNTAINS YOU HAD TO MOVE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING ON AUGUST 1ST. BUT AUGUST 9TH IS THE DAY THE STUDENTS SHOW UP. SO HAVING IT AUGUST 8TH WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. SO CAN WE GET AUGUST 1ST FIRST? BRAD'S EYES JUST KEPT GOING FOR A DEMOCRAT FOR THIS, WE'RE GONNA TRY. I MEAN, JUST WITH SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE IN EVERY EVERY DAY. I MEAN, THERE'S 42 DAYS, I GOT IT IN MY OFFICE AND SO IT'S. THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, SO IT'S DONE RIGHT AND IT'S DONE SAFELY. IF WE CAN GET IT. AUGUST JULY, 31ST WILL GIVE IT TO YOU, BUT WE COMMITTED TO THE EIGHTH, SO OKAY, WE WILL TRY. I WILL NOTE THAT I'VE BEEN OUT THERE EVERY SATURDAY. AND YOU'VE GOT CREWS OUT THERE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR JUST TWO THINGS REAL QUICK. HERE WE GO.
YOU WILL BE GETTING NOTIFIED HERE SOON THAT BECAUSE OF THE EXTREME HEAT. YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GET TO A CERTAIN TEMPERATURE, YOU CAN'T POUR CONCRETE. SO WE ARE GETTING APPROVAL. MARIO IS GOING TO GIVE HIS APPROVAL TO LET THEM DO EARLY POURS ON THE BRIDGE DECK AND THE PAYMENT SO WE WILL DEFINITELY GET THAT NOTICE OUT TO THE RESIDENTS JUST TO KEEP THIS THING MOVING.
YOU'LL SEE THAT COMING ALONG JUST A FEW EARLY MORNING PORES AND THEN WANT QUITE ROAD TURN LANE THAT IS COMING TO YOU ALL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THAT CHANGE ORDER. SO UNLESS YOU WANT TO PROVE IT TONIGHT. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ALL UP TO YOU HERE, LYNN. THERE'S A WHOLE DEBATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. AND JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW WE'RE BORN THE BRIDGE DECK A WEEK FRIDAY. FIRST ONE, THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK, PROBABLY BE EARLY WEEK. TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY. GREAT. JUST LET YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT. ALRIGHT VERY APPRECIATED.
INITIALS THANK YOU. NO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BRAD APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AGAIN. THANK YOU. GREAT
[2. Receive an update on Parks and Recreation projects. (DB)]
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PRESENTATION. OUR SECOND PRESENTATION THIS EVENING IS RECEIVED AN UPDATE ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION PROJECTS WITH MR DAN BAKER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME PRESENT. I JUST WANTED TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON A COUPLE PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON AND THEN ALSO THE DEPARTMENT'S ACCREDITATION PROCESS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH UH, FIRST ONE RAYMOND COMMUNITY PARK. UM. CURRENTLY WE WILL RECEIVE ON FRIDAY OR 50. DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PLANS. NOW WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THIS IS THAT WILL BE A KEY POINT, A KEY COMPONENT OF US BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP THE GMP. SO WHICH IS A BIG DEAL TO THE CMR. PROCESS UM, WE DO ANTICIPATE BEING 100% DONE. UM BY THE END OF THE SUMMER, AS FAR AS OUR PLANS GO AND THEN OUR CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AS WELL. UM AS I SAID DEAN CONSTRUCTION ARE SEYMOUR IS IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING OUR FINAL COST ESTIMATES WITH ANTICIPATING THE BEGINNING OF THE BIDDING PROCESS THIS FALL. I KNOW THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ON GEO TECH. GEO TECH WAS COMPLETED EARLIER BEFORE. YES MA'AM. WE HAD TO DO THAT SO THAT WE COULD FIGURE OUT DIFFERENT ITEMS SUCH AS LIKE HOW MUCH SOIL HAS TO BE BROUGHT IN OR TAKEN OUT. SO THAT'S ALL BEEN DONE AS FAR AS ANY UTILITY RELOCATION. THERE ARE NONE THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED ON SITE RIGHT NOW, SO THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S FOUND WHEN WE AS FAR AS WE'RE CUSTER WERE TIED IN THERE, BUT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. SO WE FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THE TIMELINE. NOW I KNOW THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS ON SMART SHEETS, AND WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO GET THOSE UPDATED RIGHT NOW. THOSE ARE NOT 100% ACCURATE. SO WE WILL GET THAT HANDLED HERE SOON , BUT WE ARE FULLY ANTICIPATING CONSTRUCTION BEGINNING REALLY JANUARY OF 24. I DID HAVE A LATE EMAIL THIS AFTERNOON WITH DEAN CONSTRUCTION. THEY SAID THEY ARE ON TRACK RIGHT NOW TO START IN JANUARY, SO WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT. AND THEN, UM, HE'S TELLING ME NOW HE THINKS HE'LL HAVE IT DONE RIGHT NOW. I'VE GOT COMPLETE FALL OR WINTER OF 25. HE THINKS IT COULD BE DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLY MARCH OF 25. SO UM, THERE ARE QUALITY OUTFIT AND THEY'RE GONNA MOVE THIS AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN. SO WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT PROJECT. ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ON THAT ONE OR I CAN KEEP MOVING THROUGH AND WE CAN DESIGN I MEAN, I THINK IT SAID IN THE SMART, SHE JUST STARTED SOMETIME IN APRIL, MAYBE EVEN MARCH, AND IT'S TAKEN UNTIL NOW TO GET 50% SO IT'S JUST THE NEXT 50% JUST FASTER. I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING DELIVERED IN SUMMER THAT'S TWO MONTHS. IS THAT REALISTIC? YES, MA'AM, IT IS AND I THINK WE'RE JUST TALKING DIFFERENT APPLES AND ORANGES RIGHT NOW. THE DESIGN PROBABLY DIDN'T START THAT QUITE THAT EARLY, BUT AT THE SAME POINT RIGHT NOW, THE FINAL 50% REALLY GOING TO BE MORE DETAILED. WHERE ARE THINGS GOING TO BE LOCATED? MORE OF THE FINE TUNING? UM BUT THIS UPFRONT 50% WILL HELP US GET THOSE COSTS. WHAT WE REALLY THE KEY.IS THAT WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW? SO WHAT GETS BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL ON WHEN I MEAN, I GUESS JUST THE APPROVAL OF ALL THE BIDS. AND THE COST COMES BACK TO US. AND YOU'RE ANTICIPATING SEPTEMBER OCTOBER OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO WE THINK WE'LL SEE THESE DONE OCTOBER, UM, BID IN NOVEMBER. SO I'D SAY, PROBABLY BACK TO YOU GUYS DECEMBER TO START CONSTRUCTION.
JANUARY FEBRUARY. YES, MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY, WE'LL JUMP INTO THE NEXT ONE. WOULD PRESERVE. UM THIS IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN DELAYED. PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY. THIS WAS THIS.
THIS PARK HAS BEEN A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE DEVELOPER. BUT WE SEEM TO HAVE GOTTEN OVER THE HUMP WITH THEM OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS OUT TO BID RIGHT NOW. IT IS A CSP, UH, BEEN OPENING SCHEDULED FOR JULY.
18TH. UM. AT THAT POINT, THE TOWN WILL HAVE REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL AS HEINZ, UH, TO GO THROUGH AND WORK THAT CSB PROJECT UM OR THE BID, HINDS WELL THEN WORK WITH THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR, WHOEVER SELECTED THAT PROCESS AND EXECUTED CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT THIS ONE WILL NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO T WALL SO WE ARE. WE ARE GOOD THROUGH THAT, SO THAT WILL HELP EXPEDITE THIS. UM ONCE WE ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. ANYTHING THAT'S DONE PAY UPS ARE STILL APPROVED THROUGH THE TOWN. SO WE WILL BE ON SITE. WE WILL BE PART OF THEIR WEEKLY CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS OR, HOWEVER FREQUENTLY THEY WANT TO DO THOSE BUT WE WILL BE OUT THERE DAILY IF
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NEEDED, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS BEING DONE TO TOWN. SPECS AND QUALITY. WE STILL EXPECT CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN THIS SUMMER. AND SHOULD BE COMPLETE, FOLLOWED NEXT YEAR.FALL. 24. YES, SIR. AND ON STAFF WHO WHO MANAGES DO YOU HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER ON YOUR STAFF THAT MANAGES THESE? PLUS THE WE'VE GOT OTHER PROJECTS AROUND TOWN TRAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT MEDIANS DOES THAT SO WE'VE GOT TO STAFF RIGHT NOW. THAT COULD JUMP INTO THE UPPER AS OF RIGHT NOW, PAL HARRIS, WHO IS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR? UH WILL BE THE PROJECT MANAGER OVER THIS ONE, AND ALSO RAYMOND RAYMOND'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL BECAUSE IT IS A SEYMOUR. SO WE ARE HIRING SOMEONE TO BASICALLY BE THAT DAY IN DAY OUT PROJECT MANAGER ALTHOUGH WE WILL BE HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THAT ONE. PICKLEBALL COURT TO BE OPENED BY WELL. THE PICKLEBALL COURT WILL BE OPENED BY THE END OF MAY. BY MAY. 25. YES, SIR 24. PROBABLY NOT. 24 IS A SIGNIFICANT DAY UNLESS THE UNLESS THE PROJECT NO , I'D SAY RIGHT NOW. WE'RE ANTICIPATING THE PROJECT COMPLETED AND FALL IF WE CAN MOVE IT UP IF IT MOVES MORE QUICKLY THAN I WOULD HOPE FOR THAT TO BE THE CASE IN COURT. AND THEN DO YOU HAVE A BRIEF UPDATE FOR US ON CONGRESS, ROATH? I SURE DO. IT WASN'T IN OUR REGION SLIDES ADDED THAT TODAY, SO YEAH, SO I KNOW PAGAN GROVE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S CLOSE TO BEING 95% DONE. PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IS DONE ON THAT PROJECT. WHAT WE'RE LACKING RIGHT NOW IS THE LANDSCAPE AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE THERE'S A PUMP THAT PUMPS WATER FROM THAT POND THAT FEEDS THE IRRIGATION TO THE PARK. AND ALSO THE PLANTINGS. UM UP AND DOWN BLANKET ON THE ROAD. WELL THANK YOU. UM. SO PER AGREEMENT WITH BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE H O A THE WAY IS ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF THAT PUMP. WE HAD DIFFICULTY GETTING THEM TOO. JUMPING ON THAT RIGHT NOW, SO WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS MOVING FORWARD SO WE CAN GET THIS PROJECT GOING AND GET IT COMPLETED. EXCUSE ME. SO THE TOWN RIGHT NOW IS IN. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF TRYING TO, UM FINISH. THE P O WITH THE COMPANY WILL COME OUT AND TAKE CARE OF THAT PUMP FOR US SO THAT WE CAN. ONCE IT GETS UP AND RUNNING. WE WILL COMPLETE THE REMAINING LANDSCAPE. AND THAT SHOULD PUT US THERE. THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT. BUT THERE IS A, UM THEY'RE RETAINING WALL FOR THE STORM SEWER, AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT SECTION OF FENCE THAT HAS STARTED TO COLLAPSE AND FAIL. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CHANGE ORDER RIGHT NOW WITH THEM TO GET THAT ALSO, IT WASN'T PART OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO THE PROJECT, SO THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED FAIRLY SOON AS WELL ON THAT ON THAT PIECE SPECIFICALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO OR IF IT'S UH IT'S A LIABILITY ON OUR PART, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW IT'S FALLEN INTO THE WATER, AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF KIDS FISH FROM BECAUSE I GUESS THAT'S YOU KNOW A LOT OF THEM. THANKS ALRIGHT. IT JUST MAKES ME NERVOUS EVERY TIME I SEE PEOPLE STANDING AROUND A WALL THAT'S FALLING INTO UPON. WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. JUST WE CAN DO SOME TEMPORARY FENCING OR SOMETHING AROUND IT TO KEEP PEOPLE AWAY. YES, SIR. WE'LL GET THAT DONE. ANY OTHER UPDATES SO WELL. WE'RE STILL ON THE PARK'S PORTION OF THIS I WANT. YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS. I THINK COUNCILMAN BARTLEY ASK YOU IF YOU HAD A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AND YOU SAID IT'S KURT AND THERE'S MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY PERHAPS YOU NEEDED HELP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THERE TO MAKE SURE ALL THESE VERY HIGH PROFILE PROJECTS COULD GET DONE.
UM I HAVE NO CONCERNS IN EITHER ONE OF THESE PROJECTS BEING DONE , LIKE WOULD PRESERVE AND I KNOW IN THE FIGHT. IT ULTIMATELY COMES BACK ON THE PARK'S DIRECTOR. WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN THE TOWN'S POWER IF YOU WANT TO. OUR ATTORNEY CAN ATTEST TO THE ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND ABOUT WE'VE BEEN GOING ON WITH HEINZ. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE PROCESS BEFORE I STARTED WITH THE TOWN, SO, UM, THERE WERE MULTIPLE MONTHS WHERE DEVELOPER JUST WASN'T RESPONDING , FINALLY THREATENED TO PULL THE PROJECT AND WE WERE GOING TO DO IT OURSELVES. THAT GOT THEIR ATTENTION. SO WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A VERY GOOD PLACE WITH THE BED GOING ON RIGHT NOW. AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE THEY'RE LEGAL IS FINALLY SIGNED OFF ON EVERYTHING. SO I WANT TO ASSURE THE COUNCIL THAT THE TOWN STAFF IS DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN. IT'S NOT DUE TO THE LACK OF
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RESOURCES TO GET THIS DONE. I THINK IT'S BEEN MORE ASSOCIATED WITH ISSUES WITH THE DEVELOPER.SO, UM I HAVE NO CONCERNS IN RAYMOND COMMUNITY OR LAKEWOOD ONCE ONCE WE GET FINALLY, THE BUYING FROM HANDS, WE'RE GOOD TO GO. OKAY. THANK YOU, DAN. YES, SIR? YES, SIR. DAN WILL YOU ALSO LET THE COUNCIL NO DOES THAT REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL WITH LAKEWOOD OR WILL NOT REQUIRE NEW ADDITIONAL COUNCIL APPROVAL? I THINK WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DO ALL THOSE PROCESSES NEED TO HAPPEN.
JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE REASON FOR MY QUESTIONING ON RAYMOND, AND THE TIMING IS JUST THE BOND SALE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR SIP, AND IT'S AN $18 MILLION PROJECTS QUITE A LARGE, YOU KNOW. ALLOCATION. AND MY HEARTBURN WITH IT WAS. I DON'T WANT TO ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS AND SELL THE BONDS AND HAVE THE MONEY SITTING IN THE BANK. IF WE CAN'T GET THE PROJECT MOVING IN A TIMELY MANNER, SO THE REASON FOR MY QUESTIONS WERE BASICALLY HAVING TO DO WITH THAT. I DON'T WANT US TO ALLOCATE MONEY. AND THEN WE'RE RELOCATING UTILITIES OR GEO WASN'T DONE OR WE HAVE A HICCUP. AND THEN WE COULD HAVE WAITED THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO START INSTEAD. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SORT OF PUSHING FOR THAT, BECAUSE I JUST I JUST I WANT WE ARE BEHIND ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SPENDING TAX DOLLARS EFFICIENTLY. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT DOES NOT GO LOST ON ME. UM I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. AND I THINK YOU'VE GOT ONE MORE. I'LL GO QUICKLY. I KNOW THAT BIG AGENDA NIGHT, SO I WANT TO BRING YOU GUYS UP TO SPEED ON THE OUR ACCREDITATION WHICH HAD BEEN GOING ON SINCE ACTUALLY BEFORE I GOT HERE. UM WE JUST THE BACKGROUND. THE ACCREDITATION WE'RE GOING THROUGH IS DOING OUR P A. IT IS THE ONLY NATIONAL ACCREDITATION, UM, FOR PARTS OF RECREATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS. UM IN THE PURPOSE OF THIS RELEASED TO HELP US BUILD A MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND PROCESSES REALLY DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE SO MANY THINGS IN PLACE, BUT IT HELPS US TO FORMALIZE THOSE WRITTEN THE ONES WE DON'T HAVE. OR MAYBE. HEY, THIS PERSON KIND OF DOES IT THIS WAY. DOES IT THAT WAY, HELPS US TO PULL EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND ALMOST CREATE A MANUAL OF HOW YOUR PARKS DEPARTMENT SHOULD RUN. UM IT HAS BEEN A MULTIYEAR SUBMITTAL PROCESS. UM THERE ARE CURRENTLY ONLY 193 PERSON REC DEPARTMENTS IN THE NATION THAT HAVE THE ACCREDITATION 22 AND TEXAS HALF OF THOSE ARE IN THE METROPLEX AND YOU CAN SEE THEM LISTED.
THERE WON'T WANT ME THROUGH THIS. UM THE BASE. HOW DO WE GET THIS ACCREDITATION? THERE'S 151 STANDARDS. THERE ARE 37 THAT YOU MUST COMPLY WITH. IF YOU ONLY COMPLY WITH 36. YOU'RE DONE SO YOU MUST COMPLETE ALL 37. THEN THERE'S ANOTHER 118 THAT YOU CAN MISS UP TO 12 ON. UM. WE HAD OUR KAPPA REVIEW TEAM OUT BACK IN MAY, THEY SPENT TWO DAYS THEY TOURED THE TOWN. THEY MET WITH MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS AND STAFF HERE. KIND OF PUT US THROUGH THE RINGER FOR 48 HOURS, AND AFTER ALL THAT THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED, UM, ACCREDITATION NOW, THIS IS WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT THEY HAVE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION. UH WE MET ALL BUT ONE OF THE 151 STANDARDS SO YOU GUYS SHOULD FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT. I CERTAINLY DO SO OKAY. CONGRATULATIONS. OUTSTANDING, UM TIMELINE. I WON'T GO TOO BAD TOO FAR ON THAT DOUBLY. RAYMOND OBVIOUSLY STARTED THE PROCESS PROBLEM, TONY ON THE MANAGE IT BACK IN JANUARY, 2020 WE APPLIED FOR ACCREDITATION IN 21 OF MARCH. UH OR MARCH, 21. EXCUSE ME. UM, WHEN DELI GOT SICK, AND HE PASSED, WE WERE ABLE TO THE TOWN WAS BRANDON EXTENSION, SO WE REALLY GOT THAT GOING ABOUT A MONTH AFTER I STARTED WITH THE WITH THE TOWN. HE AND, UM, WORK THROUGH IT FOR A GOOD ALMOST YEAR AND A HALF. WE SUBMITTED EVERYTHING. AND THIS PAST MARCH AGAIN. WE HAD THE VISIT BACK IN. MAY WE'VE BEEN RECOMMENDED. AND SO BARBARA, TONY AND I WILL AT THE NEXT NRP A CONFERENCE, WHICH IS HERE IN DALLAS, SO IT'S CONVENIENT. IT'S THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE. WE WILL GO IN FRONT OF THEIR, UH THE WE'RE HEARING, AND I BELIEVE AT THAT POINT WILL MHM. UH BEING TOLD THAT WE RECEIVE ACCREDITATION. I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT, THOUGH, SO GOOD JOB TO BRING YOU GUYS UP TO SPEED ON THAT, UM, ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE. THAT'S NOT AGENDA RELATED, BUT MORE KIND OF AN OFF TOPIC FROM OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE'VE GOT THE BARBECUE AND BLUES COMING OUT. ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS FROM THAT GROUP WAS HAVING A TOWN WIDE COOK OFF FOR BARBECUE. SO IF YOU'VE GOT THAT ON THE AGENDA YET WITH YOUR CREW, BUT SHOWING IT HOLD HOLD ON. I SEE A SETUP HAPPENING
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ALREADY. THE I'M TAKING THE GUACAMOLE COMPETITION WAS MARCUS GRAY MY NAME IN THE HAT. OKAY SO I'M NOT COMMITTING TO THE TOWN WHITE COMPETITION YET. IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK THROUGH AND WORK DO. UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE UM THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK ON THAT, BUT SO I'M NOT PROMISING THAT YET, BUT WE CAN, CERTAINLY THEN WE CAN WORK TOWARDS AND THERE'S A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE. THEY'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT. MORE THAN I BELIEVE YOU'RE DISQUALIFIED. OFFICIAL TASTE ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DAN. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR APPRECIATE IT. OKAY? AT THIS[CONSENT AGENDA]
TIME, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEMS PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE IN NATURE AND NONCONTROVERSIAL. THAT CONSENT AGENDA CAN BE ACTED UPON. IN ONE MOTION ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA BY THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL MEMBERS OR STAFF. NONCONTROVERSIAL ROUTINE PLANNING ZONING ITEMS WHERE THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION AT THE PNC COMMISSION AND WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED AND NO COMMENTS AND OPPOSITIONS HAVE BEEN IN OPPOSITION HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. ALSO MAY BE ACTED UPON DURING THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING. ANY PLANNING AND ZONING ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA MAY BE REMOVED AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF OR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME, WE'LL, UH THE MAYOR PRO TEM HAS ASKED ITEM 13 AND 14 TO BE PULLED. UH I'M GONNA ASK IT ITEMS SIX P PULLED IN. UH, MARIO, IS THERE ANY OTHER STAFF ITEMS? THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I WAS AWARE OF. SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS 6 13 AND 14. WE'LL MAKE A MOTION APPROVED THREE THROUGH 57 THROUGH 12 AND 15. I'LL SECOND THAT OKAY? MOTION BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SECOND BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM ALL IN FAVOR. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND IF YOU WANT. OKAY UH, WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS. 13 WE DO 13 14 SORRY. 13 AND 14. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEMS 13 AND 14. IT'S BASICALLY A RENAMING FROM A PREVIOUS MEETING. COULD I GET A MOTION ON ITEMS 13 AND 14. SO MOVED A MOTION BY CHARLES SECOND BY AMY ALL IN FAVOR. PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY ALSO. IF YOU'D ASKED CRAIG TO REJOIN US, PLEASE. CHARLES.YEAH. I MEAN, MORE INSULATION.
ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND I CONSENT AGENDA ITEM SIX. YES CONSIDERING
[6. Consider adoption of a resolution directing publication of notice of intention to issue certificates of obligation for the purpose of funding costs associated with the construction of water and wastewater improvements.]
ADOPTED RESOLUTION DIRECTING NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE CEOS FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING COSUS ASSOCIATED WITH CONSTRUCTION OF WATER, WASTEWATER AND STREET IMPROVEMENTS IN THE TOWN. AND I DON'T MY SIMPLE POINT IN PULLING. THIS IS IT'S AN OBLIGATION WERE ISSUING DEBT FOR $8.7 MILLION AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE STATE PUBLICLY AND HAVE A VOTE ON SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. SO I GET A 2ND 2ND 2ND BY JEFF HODGES ALL IN FAVOR. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. AT[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITIZENS. COMMENTS I HAVE NO CITIZEN COMMENTS CARDS AT THIS TIME. YEAH. HOWEVER IF YOU THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC, HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL IS UNABLE TO DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. IF MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS WISH TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC. THEY MAY YIELD THERE THREE MINUTES TO ONE INDIVIDUAL POINT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF. ALL INDIVIDUALS YIELDING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AT THE MEETING IN THE APPOINTED INDIVIDUAL WILL BE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? SEEING NONE AND HAVING NO, UH PRE POSTED ONES WILL MOVE TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. A REGULAR AGENDA. HERE'S PURSUANT TO SECTION 551007, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. INDIVIDUALS WISHING WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL[00:45:03]
FOR ITEMS LISTED AS PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE RECOGNIZED WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS HEARING IS[16. Consider authorizing the Town Manager to enter into a contract with Republic Services including purchase and distribution of carts for the period February 1, 2024 ending January 31, 2031 with an option of three, one-year renewals, declaring an exclusive franchise in the Town for all solid waste services which include residential, commercial, industrial and construction disposal as allowed by state law and to provide for transition services by either its current provider, Republic or both in the intervening period until February 1, 2024.]
OPENED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16. IS TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC SERVICES. INCLUDING THE PURCHASE AND DISTRIBUTION OF CARDS FOR THE PERIOD OF FEBRUARY. 1 2024. ENDING JANUARY 31 2031 WITH AN OPTION OF 31 YEAR RENEWAL'S DECLARING AN EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE IN THE TOWN FOR ALL SOLID LIKE WASTE SERVICES, INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND CONSTRUCTION DISPOSAL, AS ALLOWED BY STATE LAW. AND TO PROVIDE FOR THE TRANSITION SERVICES BY EITHER ITS CURRENT VENDOR REPUBLIC OR BOTH. IN THE INTERVENING PERIOD UNTIL FEBRUARY. 1 2024 MR BOB SCOTT. OKAY THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO MOVE THROUGH THESE SLIDES VERY QUICKLY. THE CAR CONTRACTS INITIAL FIVE YEAR PERIOD EXPIRES JANUARY. 31ST 2020 FOR ALTHOUGH THERE WERE RENEWAL OPTIONS, WE CHOSE NOT TO EXERCISE THOSE WITH NO AND DECIDED TO GO TO THE RFP PROCESS. AH, WE CONTRACTED WITH A SOLID WASTE CONSULTANT BURNS AND MCDONALD. AND WE KEPT THEIR SCOPE VERY LIMITED BECAUSE WE ONLY WANTED TO USE THEM WHERE THEIR INDUSTRY EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE NORTH TEXAS SOLID WASTE MARKET COULD ADD A LOT OF VALUE. SO AS A RESULT, THEY DID THE INITIAL SO THEY WROTE THE RFP. MOST IMPORTANTLY , THEY WROTE THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND THE CONTRACT. AND THEN THEY DID THE INITIAL EVALUATION. OF THE RFP. AH WHICH HAD A MARCH 21ST DEADLINE. WE RECEIVED SIX PROPOSALS TO WERE NON RESPONSIVE. THE REMAINING FOR WE THEN TURNED OVER TO A EMPLOYEE EVALUATION COMMITTEE CONSISTING OF STAKEHOLDERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. MYSELF.CHRIS LANDRETH AND DIRECTOR OF FINANCE THE UTILITY BILLING, FOLKS, UH, REPRESENTATIVE FROM PUBLIC WORKS. AND UH, TWO INDIVIDUALS FROM COMMUNICATIONS . WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE PROSPEROUS RESIDENT ON THE COMMITTEE. AND SO THAT COMMITTEE THEN TOOK ALL THE INPUT AND FROM THE CONSULTANT. IT CAME UP WITH TWO FINALISTS. THOSE TWO FINALISTS WERE CWD. AND REPUBLIC. WE THE RP HAD KEPT BASIC SERVICES THE SAME. THE ONE ENHANCEMENT THAT WERE PROPOSING IS RATHER THAN ALLOWING. CITIZENS TO CALL IN COME AND PICK UP A COUPON FROM THE TOWN AND THEN TAKE THAT COUPON DOWN TO FRISCO TO DISPOSE OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD HAS THIS WASTE NOW THEY WILL SIMPLY BE ABLE TO CALL A NUMBER. REQUEST A PICKUP AND A PACKAGE WILL BE SENT TO THEM THAT THEY CAN PUT ALL THEIR HOUSEHOLD HAS THIS WASTE IN.
THEY LIVE IT ON THEIR PORCH, AND IT DISAPPEARS, SO THAT'S A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT SERVICE ENHANCEMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO COMMENT ON IS THIS CONCEPT OF EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND ALL THE IMPLICATIONS OF IT. BASICALLY IT MEANS THAT THE TOWN HAS DECLARED A COMPLETE MONOPOLY. THROUGHOUT THE TOWN FOR SOLID WASTE SERVICES. ONCE WE CHOOSE A VENDOR, NO OTHER SOLID WASTE FENDER CAN OPERATE WITHIN THE TOWN LIMITS. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD REASONS FOR THIS. UH FIRST OF ALL, IT MAKES THE CONTRACT MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE AND SOLID WASTE PROVIDERS, WHICH TYPICALLY WILL RESULT IN BETTER SERVICE AND LOWER RATES TO OUR RESIDENTS. IT ALSO MEANS THAT YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CONTRACTORS TRUCKS IN TOWN RATHER THAN MULTIPLE, WHICH SAYS WHERE AND TEAR ON THE ROADS REDUCES, UM TRAFFIC VOLUMES, ETCETERA. HOWEVER MANY TIMES, PARTICULARLY THOSE BIG NATIONAL COMPANIES AND CHANGE WILL HAVE A NATIONAL CONTRACT. AND THE RATES THEY PAY UNDER EXCLUSIVES IS TYPICALLY HIGHER. THEN WHAT THEY WOULD PAY. UM UNDER THEIR NATIONAL CONTRACT. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE VALUE OF THE CONTRACTORS IN THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT OUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO US, TOO. AND WE DID THAT THROUGHOUT THE RFP PROCESS. WE HAD SEVERAL GOALS FOR THE RP. WE WANTED TO KEEP
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RATES AS CLOSE. TO THEIR CURRENT LEVELS POSSIBLE, WHILE CREATING . A GOOD POSSIBILITY OF ACCOMPLISHING OR OTHER GOALS. THESE OTHER GOALS INCLUDED FIRST OF ALL UH, MAKE SOLID WASTE RATES SELF SUPPORTING IN THE PAST. THERE WAS NO SEPARATE, SOLID WASTE FUND THAT WAS CREATED THIS BUDGET YEAR. AND MANY OF THE COSTS RELATED SOLID WAYS. WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST BORN BY THE UTILITY FUND. FOR EXAMPLE , WHEN WE WOULD STAFF SATURDAY DROP OFF SERVICES THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC WORKS CREWS THAT WOULD DO THAT, AND THAT WAS JUST ABSORBED BY UTILITY FUND. I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE HOUSEHOLD HAS THIS WASTE COUPONS. THOSE ARE $50 APIECE THAT THE TOWN PAID FOR.BUT THAT WAS NOT BUILT INTO THE SOLID WASTE RATES. WE SIMPLY ABSORBED THAT AND SO OUR GOAL WAS TO CREATE A SELF SUPPORTING FUND. UH BASED ON THE SOLID WASTE RATES WE ALSO WANTED TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY AND DEPENDABILITY OF BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SERVICES OR BEEN SOME ISSUES IN THE PAST. AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD GOOD , RELIABLE AND CONSISTENT SERVICES GOING FORWARD. AND PART OF THAT WAS TO IMPROVE THE CONTRACT REMEDIES FOR POOR SERVICE. UH HUH. AND THEN IF WE'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION, THEN THINGS CAN SLIP SO WE WANTED TO HAVE STAFFING THAT COULD INCREASE OUR CONTRACT MONITORING AND CONTRACT COMPLIANCE. SO THERE'S OUR EVALUATION TEAM. LET ME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BEST AND FINAL OFFERS SO ONCE WE IDENTIFIED THE TWO FINALISTS WE HAD BOTH INTERVIEWS AND SITE VISITS WITH THOSE FINALISTS. UH WE VISITED THE MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITIES, WHICH IS THE RECYCLING FACILITIES FOR MOST FINALISTS, WE VISITED THE LANDFILL. WE VISITED THEIR OFFICES WE HAD IN DEPTH INTERVIEWS. THEN AFTER THAT, WE CAME BACK EVALUATED STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES OF BOTH PROPOSALS. AND THEN I HAD A FRANK CONVERSATION. WITH BOTH OF THE FINALISTS IN TERMS OF WHAT I THOUGHT THE WEAKEST POINTS AND WHAT THE COMMITTEE THOUGHT WERE THE WEAKEST POINTS OF BOTH PROPOSALS AND GAVE EACH OF THE FINALISTS AND OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THOSE WEAKEST POINTS AND I'VE LISTED THAT IN THE SLIDE PRESENTATION. THEN BASED ON THEM. SUBMITTING THEIR BATH. OH BEST AND FINAL OFFER. BASED ON OUR FEEDBACK WHAT WE THOUGHT THAT WEAK POINTS WERE WE CAME.
TWO A ANALYSIS AND LET ME COMMENT. WHEN I SAY PRICING IS VERY SIMILAR. THE PRICING WAS DONE BY THE CONSULTANT. AND THE CONSULTANT DID THE PRICING BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THE INCUMBENT PROVIDED US IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL LEVELS. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT RESIDENTIAL SERVICES WERE PROVIDING. SO THAT'S EASY TO CALCULATE. BUT WHAT WE DON'T KNOW SINCE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS IS DIRECTLY BETWEEN THEM. AND THE PROVIDER. WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY EIGHT YARD CONTAINERS HOW MANY 10 YARD CONTAINERS WERE BEING USED. HOW MANY COMP ACTORS AND SO FORTH AND SO WE HAD TO GET THAT INFORMATION FROM THE INCUMBENT, AND THE INFORMATION WAS A LITTLE BIT LIMITED. AND SO THERE MAY BE SOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT THE INCUMBENT CAME UP WITH IN TERMS OF PRICING AND WHAT WE CAME UP WITH THEM. TERMS OF PRICING, BUT THE IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS WE BASED IT ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE RP. SO WE STUCK WITH THAT POINT IN TIME MEASUREMENT, AND WE MEASURED IT EXACTLY THE SAME.
FOR ALL THE PROPOSALS IN ORDER TO BE OBJECTIVE AND FAIR. AND SO WHAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS A VERY LITTLE PRICE DIFFERENCE. BETWEEN THE TWO PROVIDERS. WHICH REALLY MEANT THAT THE OTHER FACTORS WERE MORE IMPORTANT BECAME MORE IMPORTANT IF PRICES WAS RELATIVELY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.
THEN WE HAD TO LOOK AT THE OTHER FACTORS. UH CWD PLEDGED THE SAME NUMBER OF TRUCKS TO THE ACCOUNT AS THEY CURRENTLY HAVE. AND THEY ALSO REQUESTED SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATIONS OF THE PROPOSED LIQUIDATED DAMAGES THAT WE FELT WOULD REALLY WEAKEN. THE CONTRACT IN TERMS OF OUR ABILITY TO ENFORCE SERVICE FAILURES. AND REPUBLIC. THEIR SERVICE PLAN HAD THREE ADDITIONAL TRUCKS ABOVE
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AND BEYOND WHAT CWD HAD PROPOSED A PROPOSED A TOTAL OF 84 FOR RECYCLING AND FOUR FOR CRASH AND SO THREE ADDITIONAL TRUCKS AND. WHEN WE ASKED THEM, THEY SAID, WE AGREED TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S WORDING THAT PROTECTS US FROM ERRONEOUS. CLAIMS OF MS COLLECTIONS, WHICH WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THE PROVIDERS. BUT THEY ACCEPTED THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS, THIS IS REALLY A RECOMMENDATION NOT BASED ON PRICE AS MUCH AS, UH, OUR ASSESSMENT THAT IT WILL BE MUCH EASIER THAN NEGOTIATED CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC. AND THEY ARE PLEDGING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT WE THINK IN THE LONG RUN WILL PROVIDE MUCH MORE NIMBLE AND CONSISTENT QUALITY SERVICE OVER TIME. SO WHAT IS? ARE THE RIGHTS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? HERE IS THE MOST LIKELY RATE SCENARIO. AND YOU CAN SEE. OUR CURRENT RATE IS 17 42. SO. REPUBLICS PORTION OF THE RAY IS 15 75 YOU SEE THE BREAKDOWN THERE? AND THEN THIS IS NEW. WE ADDED TO THAT. FIRST OF ALL THE TOWN IS GOING TO OWN THE CARDS.
AND WE NEED TO FINANCE THE CARDS . AND SO THE SOLID WASTE FUN BEING SELF SUPPORTING THE RATES NEED TO FINANCE THE CARDS AND PAY FOR THE CARDS. AND SO WE BUILT IN A COURT FINANCING FEE OF $2 WHEN WE'RE EVALUATING THE TWO FINALISTS PROPOSALS WE PUT IN BOTH THE $2 IN THE 80 CENTS.
THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME FOR BOTH. AND THEN THE 80 CENTS WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE SOME STAFFING.
FOR SOLID WASTE. AND WE'LL ALSO HELP REIMBURSE PUBLIC WORKS FOR STAFFING, THE DROP OFF CENTER AND SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS. AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A RATE FOR RESIDENTIAL OF ABOUT 18 55. KEEP IN MIND CURRENT RATE 17 42, SO IT IS GOING UP. BUT IF WE HAD NOT GONE OUT FOR RFP. THE CURRENT PROVIDER WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A RATE INCREASE. AND IF YOU JUST ESTIMATED AT, SAY, 5% THE RIGHT WOULD BE GOING UP FEBRUARY 1ST TO ABOUT 18 27. AND SO WE FEEL OUR GOAL OF KEEPING RATES FAIRLY CLOSE HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED. AND THE GOOD NEWS, THOUGH, IS COMMERCIAL RATES WILL ACTUALLY BE GOING DOWN? SO THIS WILL BE A BIG WIN FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. HERE IS THE BENCHMARKING OF OUR AREA CITIES AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM. THE. AVERAGES 1961 AND THE MEDIAN IS 18 68. WE'RE GOING TO BE AT 18 55. SO WE'RE KIND OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK.
UH THESE RIGHTS, THOUGH, DO NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SERVICE LEVELS. AND WITH THAT I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. HEY BOB, FOR BENEFIT OF THE OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE FACTORED IN THE CARTS? YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE HAD IN A PREVIOUS AGREEMENT, SO WHY WERE . WHILE WE'RE INCLUDING CARTS AND THE AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS. OBVIOUSLY I THINK I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AND WE'VE HAD. TWO DIFFERENT PROVIDERS IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. EVERY TIME YOU SWITCH PROVIDERS, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO SWITCH AGAIN.
EVERY TIME YOU SWITCH PROVIDERS. IT'S A HUGE LOGISTICAL CHALLENGE TO SWITCH OUT THE OLD PROVIDERS CARDS FOR THE NEW PROVIDERS CARDS. THERE'S IMPACT ON OUR RESIDENTS, EX CETERA AND. WITH THE TOWN OWNING THE CARDS, IT WILL MAKE IT MUCH MORE SEAMLESS PROCESS. IF WE WERE TO SWITCH PROVIDERS AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. AND IT ALSO GIVES US UH, A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE PUT ON THE CARDS, ONE OF THE THINGS AND AGAIN I AM A HUGE COMPONENT OF YOU CAN OUTSOURCE THE TASKS BUT NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY. RIGHT NOW, WITH THE CONTRACTORS. CARTS ARE CITIZENS DON'T KNOW WHO TO CALL IF THERE'S PROBLEMS. WE HAVE CREATED A SOLID WASTE, DEDICATED
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TELEPHONE NUMBER. THAT IS A TOWN TELEPHONE NUMBER. THAT TELEPHONE NUMBER IS GOING TO BE ON THE CART. SO IF AS CITIZEN WALKS OUT, AND THE CURRENT HASN'T BEEN PICKED UP. THEY WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHO TO CALL. AND SO WE THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE AN IMPROVEMENT IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.AND THEN ALTERNATELY, WE THINK IT IT CAN ACTUALLY SAVED SAVE MONEY OVER TIME IN MY PREVIOUS CITY. WE NEVER HAD A MASK ART REPLACEMENT IN THE 20 YEARS WE OWN THE CARDS. BUT WHAT TENDS TO HAPPEN IS ONE CARD AT A TIME BREAKS AND IS REPLACED AND YOU JUST KIND OF KEEP ROLLING FORWARD WERE YOU REPLACED CONFUSED CARDS AT A TIME AND YOU NEVER HAVE ANY OF THE BIG LOGISTICAL. UH CHALLENGES OF REPLACING 30 OR 40,000 CARTS AT ONCE. SIR BOB. HAVING THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. YOU HAVE $2 BY THE, UH, SOME COST ON THE CART. IS THAT CORRECT? YES SIR. OKAY, SO LET'S SAY WE GET AROUND TO THE NEXT CONTRACT. AND REGARDLESS OF WHO IT IS, WE HAVE THOSE CARDS WERE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT $2 AGAIN. CORRECT OR IT WILL BE. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE GOT SOME REPLACEMENT THERE. NO THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT NOW. THE $2 IS BASED ON A 10 YEAR FINANCING. THAT IS THE WARRANTY FOR THE CARDS. AS I SAID, IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE AVERAGE LIFE FOR WAY EXCEED THAT. BUT THAT'S FOR A 10 YEAR FINANCING. SO IF WE WERE TO SWITCH AT THE END OF, SAY, SEVEN YEARS, WHICH IS THE INITIAL TERM OF THIS CONTRACT THEN WE WOULD STILL BE PAYING BACK THE CARDS FOR THREE MORE YEARS. BUT AT THE POINT WHERE THE FINANCING IS COMPLETE, THEN, UH, WE COULD CHOOSE JUST TO SIMPLY PASS ON THAT SAVINGS TO OUR CUSTOMERS OR SINCE TRASH TRUCKS ARE ONE OF THE BIG FACTORS IN TERMS OF WHERE AND TEAR ON ROADS. WHAT WE DID ON OUR PREVIOUS CITY AS WE DEDICATED SOME OF THE SOLID WASTE EXCESS REVENUE TO STREET REHABILITATION. SO THERE'S ALL SORTS OF OPTIONS. WE CAN LOOK AT 10 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THOSE CARDS ARE PAID OFF. BYE BYE. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE BULK TRASH. PICK UP ONCE A MONTH. WE HAVE BOTH TRASH DROP OFF TWICE A MONTH. EVERY WEEK. EVERY WEEKEND. EVERY SATURDAY, OKAY? THE DROP OFF AS EVERY SATURDAY EXCEPT FOR A FEW HOLIDAYS, AND WE EVEN RECENTLY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF HOLIDAYS WHERE THE SATURDAY DROP OFF HIS CLOSED. BOTH PROPOSALS STILL INCLUDED THAT HMM. YES OKAY. AND THEN THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL PICK UP THAT THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WHEN IT'S WHEN YOU SAID THAT YOU GET A BAG. HOW WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? HOW BIG IS THAT? LIKE A GROCERY BAG OR A WELL, WE HAVE A CONTRACTORS AND THE AUDIENCE IT WOULD PROBABLY DEPEND ON WHEN YOU CALL IN THAT YOU HAVE A PICK UP THEY WILL ASK YOU WHAT YOU'RE DISPOSING. AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY EFFECT WHAT THEY SENT. OKAY SO IF YOU SAY I HAVE FIVE GALLONS OF PAINT, I NEED TO GET RID OF WELL, THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN I HAVE FIVE BATTERIES FROM MY POWER TOOLS THAT NO LONGER WORK, SO IT JUST WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT'S BEING DISPOSED, BUT THE MAXIMUM SIZE. HAD TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I MEAN. OKAY? MOM. BOB FOR IF WE'RE HAVING AND ANSWER QUESTIONS, CAN WE JUST HAVE THEM COME TO THE RIGHT? YEAH I WAS. IN EFFECT.
WE'LL GIVE THE H HAVE CITIZENS COMMENTS SO WE'RE GONNA GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH MORE.
OKAY, SO BUT AGAIN, IT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT'S BEING DISPOSED. I GOT IT. THAT'S ALL. ALL RIGHT, BOB. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YOU WENT THROUGH YOUR SLIDE REAL QUICKLY ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ON YOUR COMMITTEE? COULD YOU JUST THROW THAT SLIDE BACK UP THERE AGAIN? YES, SIR. ARE YOU SAYING I TALK TOO FAST? NO YOU'RE DOING. I DID NOT SAY THAT, BOB. OKAY THAT SO I WAS HOPING TO GET ON THE RECORD THAT THE MAYOR SAID I WAS TOO BRAVE. SO THERE THERE ARE EIGHT PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE. 2468. HOW MUCH TIME DID YOU GUYS SPEND GOING THROUGH? THESE ARE
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FPS. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FELT WAS MOST VALUABLE WERE THE SITE VISITS. BECAUSE YOU CAN READ THINGS ON PAPER. BUT UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY GO AND WALK THROUGH THE BUILDINGS AND OBSERVE THE EMPLOYEES AND UNDERSTAND THE PROCESSES AND SEE THE DIFFERENT APPROACHES OF THE FINALISTS. YOU DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING IN THE THAT STATED IN THE PAPERS, SO WE ALL SPENT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME EVALUATING UH, THAT NOTEBOOK RIGHT OVER THERE THAT THREE RING BINDER HIS MIND. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT HAS ALL POUR THE PROPOSALS AND ALL THE NOTES AND EVERYTHING. IT'S EXTENSIVE. SO YOU MENTIONED YOUR SITE VISITS AGAIN. DID YOU SEE ANY DISTINCT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO FINALISTS SITE VISITS? UH YES.SO I SAW SOME DISTINCT DIFFERENCES. AND YOU KNOW I CAN . I CAN ELABORATE. UH UM THE FINALISTS. THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING REPUBLIC THERE. BURP WHICH STANDS FOR MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY. IT'S THE RECYCLING FACILITY. WAS INCREDIBLE. IT WAS STATE OF THE ART. YOU WALK THROUGH, AND IT HAD OPTICAL SORTING. IT HAD A I WITH ROBOTICS. UH YOU HEARD ALL THESE PUFFS OF AIR AS THE OPTICAL SORTING WOULD SEE A ITEM THAT NEEDED TO BE PUT ON ANOTHER CONVEYOR BELT THAT WOULD SHOOT OUT AIR AND MOVE IT OVER TO THE OTHER CONVEYOR BELT. AND THEN ANOTHER PLACES THE ROBOTIC ORANGE PICKING IT OUT, AND, UH, AND THEY COULD TELL US IN ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME HOW MUCH OF DIFFERENT RECYCLING PRODUCTS CAME THROUGH AND THEY'RE OPENING A POLYMER PLANT AND LAS VEGAS THAT MOST OF THE WATER BOTTLES WILL GO TO BECOME NEW WATER BOTTLES, SO IT WAS A VERY SOPHISTICATED PROCESS. THE OTHER CONTRACTORS. MURPH WAS NOT NEARLY AS SOPHISTICATED. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WHEN WE HAVE COMPLAINTS WHAT DEPARTMENT RECEIVES COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRASH PICKUP UTILITY BILLING AND WHO'S IN CHARGE OF UTILITY BUILDING.
UTILITY BUILDING. THE MANAGER IS NORMA PEREZ, AND SHE REPORTS DIRECTLY TO CHRIS LANDRUM. BUT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SHORT STAFFED IN FINANCE AND THE FED A LOT OF TURNOVER. I HAD TOLD THE PREVIOUS FINANCE DIRECTOR THAT I WOULD HANDLE ALL SOLID WASTE COMPLAINTS DIRECTLY MYSELF.
BECAUSE I WANTED TO TAKE THAT OFF OF THEM. AND THE FACT THAT I ADMINISTERED SOLID WASTE FOR MY PREVIOUS CITY. I FELT I HAD THE EXPERIENCE THAT I COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND HANDLE THAT FOR THEM.
THANK YOU FOR THAT SEGWAY. SO YOU DID. YOU WERE IN CHARGE OF SOLID WASTE IN YOUR PREVIOUS POSITION. HOW MANY YEARS WERE YOU IN CHARGE? IT WAS A. MAYOR WAS ANOTHER DEGREE DUTIES AS ASSIGNED SOMETIMES, UM YOU GET PICKED TO DO THINGS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY OVER. I WAS CHARGED WITH OVERSEEING THE MANAGED COMPETITION PROGRAM. OF THE CITY IN WHICH WE DECIDED WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO KEEP SOLID WASTE IN HOUSE. OR GO WITH AN OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR. AND SO I WROTE THE ORIGINAL OR P AND WE ULTIMATELY DECIDED TO GO OUT AND WE ULTIMATELY UM. I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT TRANSITION HAPPENS SMOOTHLY IN TERMS OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES. BEING. OUT PROCESSED INTO THE SOLID WASTE PROVIDER, ETCETERA, AND SO I WAS KIND OF THE COORDINATOR AND COMPLAINT POINT. AND I OVERSAW SOLID WASTE. FROM THAT STANDPOINT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, OKAY? AND YOU MENTIONED YOU DID DO AN RFP. SO THIS PROCESS IS YOUR YOUR FIRST ONE. THIS IS NOT MY FIRST OR FB DID USE A CONSULTANT FOR YOUR FIRST ONE.
UH, INITIALLY, BUT THEN I DIDN'T FIND THE CONSULTANT PARTICULARLY USEFUL. AND SO, UM, I JUST DID IT MYSELF. UH HERE, THOUGH. I WANTED TO COME UP WITH LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. THAT WERE TOUGH. BUT AT THE SAME TIME REASONABLE AND WOULD BE ACCEPTED BY THE SOLID WASTE PROVIDERS.
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AND I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO KNOW WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNTS WERE REASONABLE AND WHAT LEVELS WERE REASONABLE. AND SO I WANTED TO USE THAT EXPERTISE. FROM THE CONSULTANT. SO YOU'VE LED TO MY NEXT QUESTION IS THAT YOU TOOK ALL THE COMPLAINTS. WHAT KIND OF COMPLAINTS DID YOU GET? AND DID YOU WERE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES EVER ASSESSED? FOR A CURRENT PROVIDER. ALL THE MS PICKUPS RIGHT RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE ANY EFFECTIVE, LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IN OUR CURRENT CONTRACT. AND I HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS REGARDING THIS PICKUPS.WHETHER IT'S TRASH RECYCLING. UH, BALK. YEAH, HAS VARIED. BUT AS YOU WILL KNOW, CITIZENS CAN BE VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT THEIR GARBAGE AND WHEN IT DOESN'T GO AWAY, THEY TEND TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT IT. AND SO I'VE HEARD. I'VE TALK TO SOME FAIRLY OUTRIGHT CUSTOMERS. SO TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE NOT ASSIST ANY LIQUIDATED DAMAGES FOR ANY MISSED. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT A CONTRACT CAP. WELL, FIRST OF ALL THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES ARE VERY, VERY SMALL. AND THE CURRENT CONTRACT CAPS, UM $8000 PER YEAR. 4000 PER QUARTER 8000 PER YEAR. $8000 IS THE EQUIVALENT OF AS 3/10 OF 1% OF THE CONTRACT VALUE JUST FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND THERE ARE NO LIQUIDATED DAMAGES ON COMMERCIAL SO. $8000 PLUS, WE CAN'T WITHHOLD IT FROM THE REVENUE. WE PAID THE CONTRACTOR. AH WE HAVE TO BUILD THE CONTRACTORS SEPARATELY. AND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY US WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO TAKE LEGAL ACTION FOR $8000. SO UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT, LIQUIDATED DAMAGES REALLY ISN'T VERY PRACTICAL OPTION, ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY. THE TOWN MANAGES THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING AND PICKUPS AND OUR CURRENT CONTRACTOR. COMPLETELY CONTROLS ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, INCLUDING THE BILLING AND EVERYTHING WE DON'T EVER SEE OF IT ANY DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, EXACTLY NOW WE DO HERE. FROM OUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. BECAUSE WHEN THEY GET UPSET WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACTOR, THEY'LL SAY , WELL, I WANT TO USE SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEY'RE TOLD WARRIOR CAN'T USE ANYBODY ELSE. IT'S MONOPOLY. AND SO THEY WILL COME TO THE TOWN AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR SERVICE. AH BECAUSE IT IS MONOPOLY. SO IN ESSENCE AGAIN, YOU CAN'T YOU CAN OUTSOURCE TASKS BUT NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY AND AS SOON AS WE CLEAR MONOPOLY ON COMMERCIAL, WE, IN ESSENCE HAVE TAKEN OVER RESPONSIBILITY. ALRIGHT, SO THAT LEADS TO THE NEXT QUESTION. WE HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT COMMERCIAL TRASH BINS OVERFLOWING THE GATES OPEN. UH OR NOT CLOSED AFTER PICKUPS. THOSE COMPLAINTS GO TO YOU ALSO. IN GENERAL. IF THEY RISE TO THAT LEVEL, YOU SEEN ANY OF THOSE LATELY? I'VE HEARD ABOUT SOME I KNOW THAT YOU BE HAS HANDLED SEVERAL AND I'M ALSO AWARE ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER CHUCK EWING'S MADE ME AWARE OF, YES. I KNOW EVERYBODY . WHOEVER THAT HAPPENS TO CALLS COUNCIL MOVEMENT, BARTLEY AND SEND HIM A PICTURE SO UM SHE'S VERY EASY TO TALK TO YOU. I KNOW OUR CITIZENS LOVE TO TALK TO AMY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. A LOT OF THOSE OTHERS. FOR BOB. WHAT? WELL WE HAVE TO CITIZENS COMMENTS COME UP. YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR RECEIVING THE COMPLAINTS. IMPORTANT. YOU TALKED ABOUT RECEIVING THE COMPLAINTS DO DO ALL THE COMPLAINTS COME TO YEAR DO THEY GO FIRST TO OUR CURRENT CONTRACT? THEY WOULD THE WAY THAT THEY DON'T GET THE WAY THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS SET UP. IS OUR OUR INCUMBENT. THE CURRENT CONTRACTOR HAS A CALL CENTER. AND THE NUMBER THAT THEY SEE ON OUR WEBSITE. THE NUMBER THEY SEE ON THE TRASH THE NUMBER THEY SEE WHEREVER IS THE CONTRACTORS. COULSON. SO WHAT HAPPENS? IS IF IT'S NOT RESOLVED, OR IF THE CUSTOMER HAS HAD MULTIPLE ISSUES WHERE THEY TRIED, CALLING THE CONTRACTORS CALL CENTER. AND HAD NOT GOTTEN SATISFACTORY RESOLUTION. THAT'S WHEN IT WILL TYPICALLY START COMING TO THE TOWN, AND IT WILL TYPICALLY. COME TO UTILITY BILLING FIRST,
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ALTHOUGH THERE ARE A FEW CITIZENS THAT WILL JUST CALL THE TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE DIRECTLY JUST. YOU KNOW, GO STRAIGHT TO THE TOP AND DEMAND TO TALK TO THE TOWN MANAGER. I GOT ONE OF THOSE RECENTLY. MICHELLE REFERRED HIM TO ME. AND SO THAT DOES HAPPEN ALSO, TYPICALLY BECAUSE YOU GET OR AFTER THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SATISFIED FOR THE FIRST. TYPICALLY BUT NOT ALWAYS THROUGH THAT PROCESS, CALLING CWD THEY ARE PRIMED AND LOADED. TYPICALLY BY THE TIME THEY GET, ALL RIGHT, THANKS, BABA. SORRY I HAD A FEW MORE THAT I FORGOT. UM SO YOU TALKED ABOUT LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND NOT COLLECTING THEM PROPOSED A NEW SET OF LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. DID YOUR UM THEY BOTH OF YOUR FINALISTS AGREED TO YOUR LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. UH HUH. THE REPUBLIC DID IN SUBSTANCE. THEY AGAIN WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE UNFAIRLY CHARGED. WHICH ISN'T A PROBLEM.WE DON'T WANNA UNFAIRLY CHARGED. EITHER CONTRACTOR DIDN'T MEET YOUR C W D COUNTER PROPOSED WAS SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES THAT, AS I MENTIONED WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY WEAKEN THOSE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. OKAY? AND THE REASON I LEFT YOUR EVALUATION TEAM UP ON THERE IS YOU ALSO TOOK THIS TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. CORRECT YES, SIR. FOR AND HOW MANY TIMES DID THE FINANCE COMMITTEE LOOK AT IT? AH! TWO I BELIEVE THAT I'M AWARE OF YOU. IN OUT. AND REMEMBER THE VOTE FROM THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL. YES, SIR.
WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. IT WAS UNANIMOUS, OKAY? THANK YOU. I DO HAVE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE IS MANY COMPLAINTS AND NUMEROUS DESSERT NUMBER YOU CAN PUT ON THAT.
REASONS NOT JUST COMPLAINTS. YEAH NUMBERS JUST TO MAKE IT THE I PRESENTED THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WITH SOME NUMBERS. I HAVE THE SIDES FROM THAT PRESENTATION OVER THERE THAT I COULD GET. THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT BY THE TIME. UH CALL COMES INTO THE TOWN. IT'S PROBABLY A SMALL FRACTION OF THE ACTUAL ISSUES. ENCOUNTERED. NOW WHAT? WHAT HAS HAPPENED? IS SERVICE HAS GOTTEN CONSIDERABLY BETTER OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS DURING THE RP PROCESS. BUT PART OF THAT, UH THERE WERE QUITE A FEW CALLS. I CAN GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE I DON'T NEED LIKE EXACT JUST 10 50 100 SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
OKAY. SO IN APRIL 20 TO 33 MAY OF 22. 28 JUNE 20TH JUNE OF 20 TO 22 JULY 13 AUGUST 10 1912. SO AS I SAID, IT'S KIND OF SMOOTHED OUT. OKAY? AND THEN THIS LAST APRIL, WE ONLY HAVE TWO SOMEBODY 20 TO 30 A MONTH PRIOR, AND THEN IT STARTED GOING GET OKAY, THAT'S ALL IT IS THE NEW PROCESS GOING TO BE THAT PEOPLE WILL CALL YOU SO YOU'LL KNOW I'M CALLED THE POUND RATHER THAN REPUBLIC, THE NEW PROVIDER. HOPEFULLY NOT ME. WHAT DIDN'T MARIO MARIO, WE WILL HAVE, UM, WE WILL HAVE A TELEPHONE NUMBER , UH, WILL WILL BE DISCUSSING THE BEST APPROACH. THE IT MAKES SENSE. TO HAVE, UH, THERE THEY HAVE A CUSTOMER SERVICE LINE AND QUITE HONESTLY, IF IT GOES THROUGH THE TOWN. IT MIGHT DELAY THINGS BY AN HOUR, TWO HOURS THREE HOURS AS WE JUST RECEIVE IT AND THEN PASS IT ON. AND SO WE WOULD PROBABLY STILL MAKE REPUBLICS NUMBER AVAILABLE. BUT OUR NUMBER WOULD BE VERY PROMINENTLY PLACED ON THE WEBSITE ON OUR TRASH CANS, EXCEPT BECAUSE WE NEED TO KEEP CLOSE. MONITORING SO THAT WE KNOW IF PROBLEMS ARE STARTING TO CREEP UP ON US. SO AND MY EXPERIENCES IF. CUSTOMERS HAVE EASY ACCESS TO THAT NUMBER. THEN AS SOON AS THEY DON'T GET THE ANSWER THEY LIKE FROM THE CONTRACTOR. THEY WILL CALL US. I
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SAID QUICK COMMENT ON THAT ON THE METRICS OF IT AND ATTRACT ABILITY OF THE PHONE NUMBER.I'VE DONE BOTH WAYS, RIGHT? I'VE CALLED THE YOU KNOW WHEN, WHEN SOMETHING MIGHT HAVE BEEN MISSED. I CALL THEM MHM. CURRENT CONTRACTORS CWD AND THEY PUT ME ON THE LIST AND COME AND PICK IT UP. AND SOMETIMES I'VE GOT THE TOWN SO I THINK YOU NEED ONE LIST. IF SPECIAL FARES IN LOCAL DATA DAMAGES BEING ATTRACTIVE MEASURE, TOO, FOR BOTH PARTIES, RIGHT, SO WOULD ENCOURAGE US WHATEVER, WHERE WE GO THAT WE FIND A CONSOLIDATED WAY TO ROLL THAT UP. BECAUSE THAT VISIBILITY SOMETIMES IT'S LOST WHEN YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T FORGET TO PUT ALL OF THE PHONE NUMBER FOR THE TOWN ON ALL THE TRASH CANS. BE ABLE TO ROLL THAT METRIC UP TO THE PROVIDER AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING TRAINING WISE OR, YOU KNOW IF THERE'S CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'RE SEEING AGAIN, PEOPLE KIND OF CAPTURE THAT AND MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND WE WANT WE WANT OUR CITIZENS TO KNOW THAT WE CARE AND WE'RE HERE FOR HIM AND HAVING A DEDICATED PHONE NUMBER WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO TRACK THE NUMBER OF CALLS MUCH EASIER. YOU KNOW WE CAN RUN METRICS ON THAT INDIVIDUAL PHONE NUMBER. WHERE WE CAN HAVE AN IDEA AND VERY EASILY SPOT WHEN CALLS ARE TRENDING UP. ALRIGHT BOB. I APOLOGIZE FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS . I WANT TO THE LEVEL OF DETAIL.
THE REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS ABOUT 55. $57 MILLION CONTRACT OVER ITS TERM. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE GET OVER SEVEN YEARS. WE WERE A LITTLE SURPRISED. I WAS SURPRISED TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. UH WHEN THE CONSULTANT CAME BACK AND PRICED BASED ON THE PROPOSALS, THE LOW BID WAS ABOUT $6.5 MILLION IN VALUE, WITH THE MAJORITY THAT BEING IN THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND SO YOU FACTOR IN GROWTH. FIVE OR 10% A YEAR ON BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. AND THEN NORMAL RATE INCREASES. AND, YES, IT WILL BE THAT SIZE CONTRACT OVER THE SEVEN YEARS. THE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT WITH THAT. WE HAVE, UM COUPLE OF CITIZENS COMMENTS. AND THE FIRST ONE IS GREG ROMER. GREG IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD THANK YOU.
MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY STAFF MONEY, MR GREG RAYMOND. AND THE PRESIDENT OF COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS EVENING. YOU MAY RECALL ME FROM FIVE YEARS AGO AS I STOOD HERE. HOPING TO GET A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF PROSPER. TONIGHT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO A NEW BENDER. AND I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU FOUR REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD TAP THE BRAKES AND YOU SHOULD PUT A PAUSE ON THIS DECISION. AND ASK A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. FIVE YEARS AGO, I TOLD YOU MAYOR, WE WOULD GET INVOLVED IN YOUR CITY.
TONIGHT I HAVE WITH ME. ROBERT MEDICAL VICH CDBG MUNICIPAL COORDINATOR AND I THINK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU KNOW HIM BECAUSE HE'S DONE. 12 COMMUNITY EVENTS IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS IN THE CITY OF PROSPER. NONE OF THOSE ARE REQUIRED IN THE CONTRACT. NONE OF THOSE WE GET PAID TO DO. WE DO THAT BECAUSE CWD GETS INVOLVED IN ITS COMMUNITIES GETS TO KNOW THE COMMUNITIES. AND ROBERT REPRESENTS THAT IN THIS CONTRACT TO YOU. NUMBER ONE. WE HAVE BEEN A GOOD PARTNER. DURING THE PAST 4.5 YEARS THAT WE HAVE SERVICED THE CITY OF PROSPER. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THREE GENERATIONAL EVENTS, NONE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN FAVORABLE FOR THE TRASH HAULER.
FIRST IS CO VET. THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THE WASTE DISPOSAL INDUSTRY, MAKING OUR BUSINESS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. WE WENT THROUGH THAT WITH YOU. IN THE IN FEBRUARY, 21 WE HAD THE FEMA DECLARED ICE DISASTER. TRUCKS DIDN'T RUN FOR A WEEK. THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF THE AUTOMOBILE. IN THE DFW METROPLEX, THOUSANDS OF SHRUBS AND LIMBS AND TREES AND VEGETATION WERE KILLED, PUT ON THE CURB VOLUMES INCREASED AGAIN . THEN WE DEALT WITH THE 50 YEAR HIGH INFLATION. NEVER ONCE DURING THESE GENERATIONAL EVENTS . DID WE CUT ANY CONTRACT SERVICES? FROM OCTOBER 22 TO APRIL OF 23. SERVICE INQUIRIES OR CALLS TO OUR COMPANY ABOUT SERVICES HAD DECREASED 61. THAT'S WELL BEFORE THIS RFP PROCESS STARTED. WE HAVE BEEN RECOVERING VERY WELL FROM THE COVID 19 EFFECTS THAT AFFECTED THE WASTE DISPOSAL INDUSTRY AND
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WE'RE SEEING SERVICE NORMS RESUME AND I'M TALKING ABOUT LABOR SHORTAGES EXTRA VOLUMES AT THE CURB BECAUSE THE KIDS WERE IN SCHOOL BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE HOME WORKING, ETCETERA. SO NUMBER ONE. WE HAVE BEEN A GOOD PARTNER AND THOSE OF YOU THAT WE'RE HERE FIVE YEARS AGO AND REMEMBER THE PREVIOUS VENDOR, I THINK WOULD RECOGNIZE THIS FACT TO BE TRUE. NUMBER TWO. THE COST DIFFERENTIAL. NOBODY KNOWS THE SERVICE LEVELS IN YOUR CITY BETTER THAN CWD BECAUSE WE'RE THE CURRENT PROVIDER. WE HAVE LOOKED AT ALL CHARGEABLE SERVICES AND IN THE MONTH OF MARCH 2024 IF YOU SWITCH TO BRAND X, YOU'LL PAY AN EXTRA $26,000 IN THAT ONE MONTH. FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF USING THEIR SERVICES THAT MAKES THEM FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH. 2024 5.3% HIGHER THAN CWD. AND I CHALLENGE WHAT ARE YOU GETTING FOR? $24,000? OVER THE LIFE OF THE SEVEN YEAR CONTRACT WHEN WE PUT IN GROWTH UH, AND NORMAL COST INCREASES. ALL OF THIS WAS PROVIDED TO YOU IN A LETTER THAT WAS EMAILED YESTERDAY AND DELIVERED TO YOU TODAY. WE ARE $3.2 MILLION LOWER. CWD IS THE LOW BID BY $3.2 MILLION OR FOR A SEVEN YEAR PERIOD. ADDITIONALLY WE GAVE YOU A PROPOSAL WORK. YOU KEPT OUR CARTS IN PLACE. THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 55 CENTS PER HOME PER MONTH. I THINK THAT PROBABLY COMPARES TO THE $2.80 THAT MR. SCOTT WAS REFERRING TO A MINUTE AGO. SO YOU COULD ELIMINATE THE 2 80 PAY 55 CENTS AND KEEP THE CWD CART IN PLACE. JUST A VALUE CONSIDERATION. NUMBER THREE EQUIPMENT. CWD HAS SERVICED YOU FOR THE PAST 4.5 YEARS WITH 10 ROUTES PER DAY 10 ROUNDS RESIDENTIAL ROUTES TO COLLECT THE TRASH AND RECYCLING. WE OPERATE COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS VEHICLES, ALL WITH FOUR AXLES THAT FOURTH AXLE IS NOT AVERAGE JUST NOT COMMON, BUT IT REDUCES THE WEAR AND TEAR IN YOUR STREETS. FROM DECEMBER 19 TO DECEMBER 20 TO YOUR TOWN GREW BY 40. CWD ROUTES GREW BY 56% SO WE ACTUALLY ADDED EQUIPMENT TO THE STREET. AT A RATE HIGHER THAN YOU ADDED HOMES IN YOUR CITY. TO MANAGE THE GROWTH OF THE TOWN, SO WE HAVE INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE $7 MILLION WORTH OF EQUIPMENT ON THE GROUND. NUMBER FOUR LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. IN THE CONTRACT PAGES. 47 THROUGH 58 SECTION, 36.4. SPECIFICALLY STATES OF PERFORMANCE INCENTIVES MAY BE ESTABLISHED. BY WAVING SOME WERE ALL LIQUIDATED DAMAGE ITEMS. WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE PROPOSED. WAS AN INCENTIVE ON A LICK ON LICK. LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. ADDITIONALLY SECTION 37 IF YOU TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT IT.THERE ARE 12 DIFFERENT REASONS THAT MONEY CAN BE WITHHELD FROM PAYING CWD. FOR OVER A VARIETY OF REASONS. UH AND NONE OF WHICH HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE TIED TO IT IS SIMPLY SAYS THE TOWN. AND IT CLEARLY IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD THAT NEEDS EITHER AN ARBITRATOR OR MEDIATION TO OCCUR BECAUSE IT COULD BE YOU DAMAGED OR ALLEY. WE'RE GOING TO WITHHOLD $50,000, FOR EXAMPLE. THAT'S GOING TO END UP IN LITIGATION. YOU KNOW IT BECAUSE IT IT IS CLEAR CONTRACT OVERREACH. SO WE HAVE OFFERED A VERY, VERY FAIR, STRAIGHTFORWARD SET OF LIQUID LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. WITH THE INCENTIVES TO PROVIDE EQUITABLE, FAIR AND REASONABLE SERVICES. AND I THINK IF YOU TAKE SOME TIME TO ASK SOME MORE QUESTIONS AND TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THOSE. YOU'LL FIND THAT CWD S PROPOSAL FOR $3.2 MILLION LESS. IS THE WAY TO GO. MARY THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. WELL, WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL LATER. I THINK WE'LL HANDLE THE SECOND CITIZENS COMMENT. LIKE, FIND IT. SORRY. CHERYL BROCK. EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL AND STAFF
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I'M CHERYL BROUGHT FROM REPUBLIC SERVICES AND THE MUNICIPAL MANAGER. I ALSO HAVE WITH ME OR GENERAL MANAGER CRAIG OUR OPERATIONS MANAGER ROBERT ARE SORRY. DIVISION MANAGER ROBERT OPERATIONS MANAGER BAILEY AND OURSELVES, MANAGER JOHN FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SUBMIT RFP FOR THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING. FOR THE CHANNEL. PROSPER UM, REPUBLIC. ONE THING THAT WE DO IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OTHER COMPANIES, AND IT DOES RELATE TO THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND THAT IS THAT WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT IF YOU PUT ENOUGH EQUIPMENT OUT TO SERVICE YOUR CITY THAT TAKES AWAY FROM YOUR LIQUIDATED DAMAGES BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE YOUR MS PICKUPS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF THE THINGS WE HAVE MANY CITIES THAT HAVE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IN THE CONTRACTS AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THEM . UM SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REPUBLIC SERVICES DOES. I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT MR ROEMER SAID ABOUT HIS RFP. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT SO I CAN'T ANSWER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S PRESENTED TO YOU. UM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REPUBLIC ALSO DOES IS THAT WE ARE OUT OF LEWISVILLE. WE'RE NOT FAR ALL OF THE DECISIONS ARE MADE LOCALLY. WE ARE A NATIONAL COMPANY. SO WE DO HAVE A CORPORATE OFFICE. BUT THEY DON'T MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR US. WE ALSO HAVE SISTER COMPANIES AROUND THE DFW AREA, SO IF THERE WERE EVER A TIME WHERE WE NEEDED EXTRA RESOURCES , WE COULD PULL THEM IMMEDIATELY IF THERE WAS A NATIONAL DISASTER. OUR CORPORATE OFFICE.WE ALSO HAD THAT TO BE ABLE TO PULL TRUCKS OR IF THERE WAS A TOTAL DISASTER, SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC THAT WE CAN DO THAT IMMEDIATELY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO AND OTHER WHEN THEY'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, KATRINA AND HURRICANES, THINGS LIKE THIS. THAT REPUBLIC CAN OFFER A CITY UM, WE WERE JUST RECENTLY ASKED TO COME INTO A CITY BACK IN APRIL, WHERE THEY PUSHED OUT A HOLLER THEY HAD HAD FOR EIGHT MONTHS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT. THEY COULDN'T KEEP UP. UM WITH PICKING UP THE SERVICES THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, AND SO THEY WERE OUT AT EIGHT OR NINE OR 10 O'CLOCK AND WE WERE ASKED TO COME IN WITHIN A MONTH.
WE'VE BEEN BEING ABLE TO SERVICE THEM. NO PROBLEMS, SO I DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL, UM, CONSIDERING US FOR THE RECOMMENDATION. YOU CAN ASK ANY OF OUR CITIES THAT WE SERVICE.
WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN THE SERVICE THAT WE DO PROVIDE. TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENT. I'VE NEVER WORKED AT A COMPANY THAT'S HAD BETTER SERVICE EQUIPMENT THAT WHAT WE NEED FROM A CITY WHERE ABLE TO PROVIDE UM, YOU HAVE OUR PHONE NUMBERS LOCALLY, OR GM OPS MANAGER. UM, OUR DIVISION MANAGER FOR ANYTHING YOU NEED. IT'S YOU COULD CALL US DIRECTLY PROBLEMS ISSUES. WE DON'T GET A LOT OF PROBLEMS. MAYBE IN MUNICIPAL MANAGER I'M OUT AS FAR AS WITH THE CUSTOMERS WITH BUSINESSES, CHAMBERS, ALL THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU HAVE. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE, UM, CONSIDERATION FOR THE RECOMMENDATION OF REPUBLIC SERVICES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE COUNCIL DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW WHICH DIRECTION TO START WITH. YEAH, WE'LL GO WITH COUNCILWOMAN PARTLY. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. I JUST THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE THE EVALUATION TEAM AND OUR STAFF THAT DID A VERY THOROUGH JOB CONSULTANT AS WELL. FINANCE COMMITTEE MAKES A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION SO I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WHAT'S BEING UM PRESENTED AND I'M GOOD. UM I CONCUR WITH THAT. I DO. UH I WOULD LIKE TO ASK BOB. I KNOW THAT. YOU'VE, UH PRESENTED TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WHAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THE DOLLAR VALUE COMMENT IF YOU COULD JUST FOR THE RECORD, UM THIS PROVIDES SOME COMMENTARY ON THAT, PLEASE. YES, AS I MENTIONED, UM WE HAD THE CONSULTANT CALCULATE THE VALUES OF THE CONTRACT, BOTH ON THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SIDE. THEY DID IT BASED ON THE VOLUMES THAT WE PUT IN THE RFP. FOR ALL PROPOSALS TO SEE AND SO IT WAS TOTALLY THE SAME FOR ALL PROPOSALS. BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. IS THE RELATIONSHIP IS BETWEEN THE SOLID WAYS. CONTRACTOR. AND THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES ARE ONLY SOURCE OF INFORMATION. FOR THE RFP REGARDING THE VOLUMES THE
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TYPES OF SERVICES THE FREQUENCY OF SERVICES, ETCETERA ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE WAS FROM THE INCUMBENT. AND QUITE HONESTLY, WE DIDN'T ALWAYS GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE REQUESTED. AND SO THE CONTRACTOR HAD TO OR THE CONSULTING. EXCUSE ME. I HAD TO GO BACK AND BASED ON THEIR INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE BASED ON HOW THINGS WORKED AT OTHER TOWNS THAT THEY SERVE. THEY MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS, BUT THEY APPLIED IT EVENLY TO ALL. SO I'M NOT SURPRISED THERE MIGHT BE SOME PRICE DIFFERENCES THAT THE INCUMBENT IS COMING UP WITH VERSUS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH.WHEN THE CONSULTANT RAN THE NUMBERS. THE PRICING WAS WITHIN 1% OF EACH OTHER, SO WE DIDN'T SEE THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THAT MR ROEMER SPOKE OF THERE WERE. OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND EVEN 1% ON A. LARGE CONTRACT CAN BE SOME MONEY, BUT AGAIN ONCE. ONCE WE SAW WE WERE THAT CLOSE, WE FELT QUALITY OF SERVICE WAS WHICH MUCH MORE IMPORTANT FACTOR. UM SO WE'VE JUST TALKED TO ROUGHLY BEING A $55 MILLION CONTRACT IN TOTAL. WHAT WHAT ESTIMATE IS THAT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE? THE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT $2.5 MILLION. A YEAR. SO IF YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY THE SEVEN SEVEN YEARS. YOU'RE GONNA GET 15.5 AND THEN ADD THE INFLATION FACTOR AND EVERYTHING YOU'D PROBABLY BE AT A 17 18. MILLION POSSIBLY UP TO 20 WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE REVENUE FOR THIS CONTRACT COMES FROM THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. AND THEN JUST ONE MORE CLARIFICATION, I GUESS JUST FOR RECORD AND FOR CITIZENS DON'T NEED TO LISTEN TO THE WAYS THAT THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT AND HOW WE WORKED ON THIS MONEY.
THE REVENUE FROM THIS PAYS FOR THE SERVICE. IT'S A SEPARATE FUND. IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT MAKING MONEY OFF OF THIS OR USING MONEY THAT WE MAKE HERE FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE. BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR EXACTLY, NO. WE CREATED A SOLID WASTE FUND. THIS LAST BUDGET YEAR, AND THAT SOLID WASTE FUND WILL COUNT FOR THE REVENUES WHICH, OF COURSE, ARE GOING TO BE THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE SINCE THE COMMERCIAL IS BETWEEN THE CONTRACTOR IN THE BUSINESS. BUT YES, IT IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES THEY RECEIVED. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION, BOB. I WAS SURPRISED THAT THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE. DIFFERING BIDS ARE DUE. THE CONTRACTOR PROPOSALS DID YOU OFFER DID YOU TELL THEM WHAT THE BIDS WERE? NO, NO, WE KEPT. AGAIN WE WANT TO RUN A VERY OBJECTIVE ABOVE BOARD SELECTION PROCESS. FOR THAT REASON, JAKE CARTER, WHO WAS ONE OF THE TEAMS WAS NON VOTING BECAUSE HE WAS PURCHASING MANAGER. AND SO WHEN, WHEN WE DID THE BATH FOAM, WE DID NOT REVEAL SPECIFIC NUMBERS AND CERTAINLY WOULD NEVER REVEAL A COMPETITORS NUMBERS. TO ONE OF THE PROPOSALS THAT WOULD NOT BE PROFESSIONAL. AND IN FACT, IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ALL OF THE SLIDES WERE LABELED PREPARATORY INFORMATION.
SO THAT YOU WOULD KNOW. WE'RE NOT SHARING THIS INFORMATION TO ANYONE OTHER THAN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. ALRIGHT THEN I'LL JUST ADD THAT YOU KNOW, I'M I MADE MY DECISION BASED ON TWO THINGS LIQUIDATED DAMAGES SERVICES. REGARDLESS OF THE PRICING AND PRICING WAS CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE SO I'LL MAKE MY DECISION MAKING. WE ALSO HAD INTERACTION ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS WITH WITH SUPERVISORS WITH PRIOR HAD PASSED THAT ON THE INTERVIEW. ALL THAT JUST DIDN'T GO WELL AT ALL, BUT THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES AS SUPERVISORS. SO. GOT A QUESTION . THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT $24,000 EXTRA AND MARCH. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT PERTAINS TO I.
THEY WERE PROJECTING MARCH OF 2024. I DON'T KNOW WHAT SERVICE MIX THEY WERE USING. I DON'T THE
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FIRST I SAW THAT LETTER. JEFF WAS WHEN IT CAME IN AFTER HOURS YESTERDAY, SO I DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY ARE CAPITALIZING THOSE NUMBERS. THERE'S BEEN NO VERIFICATION OF THOSE NUMBERS.AGAIN. THEY MAY BE MORE ACCURATE THAN THE CONSULTANTS NUMBERS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, THEY KNOW THEIR NUMBERS THEIR CUSTOMERS BETTER THAN WE DO. BUT WE BASED OUR NUMBERS ON WHAT THEY TOLD US. AND THAT'S HOW WE CALCULATED THE DIFFERENCES AND DOLLARS BETWEEN THE TWO PROPOSALS. OKAY? UH I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. UM YOU KNOW, IT'S WHILE IT'S NOT REQUIRED. IT WAS APPRECIATED. ALTHOUGH I WHAT WE'RE DECIDING HERE IS NOT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. SO, UM I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT THAT FOR ME PERSONALLY WILL NOT BE FACTORED INTO THE DECISION. YEAH SO JUST A FEW COMMENTS FIRST OFF, BOB. THANK YOU. TEAM FOR ALL THE WORK. IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO THE WAY THROUGH ALL THE PAPERS AND SEE WHERE EVERYBODY'S COMING IN. THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO MR ROMER'S COMMENTS ABOUT BEING INVOLVED IN THE CITY AND BEING A PARTNER, AND, UM, I'VE SEEN THAT MORE RECENTLY THAN EVER BEFORE.
HAVE ACTUALLY STOOD OUT IN THE SUN WITH JASON THROWING TRASH AND, YOU KNOW, PICK UP DAYS. SO UM, I WOULD SAY IT'S BEEN AN INCREASE IN RECENT DAYS. AND MAYBE THAT'S RFP. OR MAYBE THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE CHANGING BUSINESS, BUT UM, I'M ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, AND IT WAS THE TWO THINGS THAT KEEP ON COMING BACK TO ME WAS THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND, UM, LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW WHAT DO YOU GET? EQUIPMENT WISE SERVICE WISE , WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED VEHICLE WISE TO WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED BY THE OTHER, UM I JUST THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION CAN I THINK ABOUT THE RESIDENTS? UM I'M OUT OF TOWN. I GET AN EMAIL FROM MY WIFE ABOUT MY TRASH CANS BOUNCING DOWN THE STREET. I CAN'T CONTROL THAT. AND I'M SURE MAYBE IT'S A BLUSTERY DAY, BUT, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT. WHEN YOU GET THOSE COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS AND FROM YOUR FAMILY THAT YOU TAKE ALL THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, SO I DO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THINK THE CWD COMMUNITY FOR BEING A GOOD AND RECENT PARTNER. I'VE PROBABLY GOT FOUR OR FIVE EMAILS FROM DIFFERENT LOCAL CHARITIES SINGING YOUR PRAISES. SO YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING WELL WITH THEM. BUT I HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND BASED ON THE PEOPLE RELUCTANT VIEW. I'D LIKE TO ALSO THANK CWD, UM, FOR BEING INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY RECENTLY. UM ALSO, I THINK IS WE SIT DOWN AND MAKE THIS DECISION OUR FINANCE? UH. COMMITTEE HAS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY HERE, NOT KIND OF, BUT THEY HAVE AND I LOOK AT WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S HARD FOR ME TO FIND ANYTHING THAT'S COMPELLING TO CHANGE THAT. THE ONE QUESTION I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AND MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SHORT ANSWER TO THIS, BUT REALLY THE STATE FOR THOSE THAT ARE SITTING OUT THERE LISTENING. DO WE HAVE A SENSE WITH THE CARTS OVER THE LONG HAUL? WHAT WE WILL. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF SAVINGS? IS THERE A IS THERE A GOOD NUMBER WE CAN PUT TO THAT. IN TERMS OF OWNING THE COURTS OURSELVES. ULTIMATELY. IT WILL SAVE US MONEY AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID NOT MENTION. WAS THAT BECAUSE OF REPUBLIC SIZE. THEIR CARDS ARE ACTUALLY $5, WHICH IS 8.5% LESS EXPENSIVE THAN ALL THE OTHER PROPOSALS WERE SAYING THE CART SHOULD COST US SO WE WILL GET A VOLUME, UH, DISCOUNT ON THE PURCHASE OF THE INITIAL PURCHASE OF THE CARS. AND AGAIN, I THINK PART OF THE SAVINGS AND BENEFITS IS GOING TO BE THE FACT THAT EVERY TIME WE CHANGE A CONTRACTOR, WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE CARDS AND THE LOGISTICS. BUT OVER TIME IF THEY . AS I'VE EXPERIENCED MY OTHER CITY. WHERE WE JUST WEREN'T REPLACING CARTS AND MASS ONCE WE GET PAST THAT 10 YEAR FINANCING POINT THERE WILL BE SOME CASH FLOW THAT WE CAN UM, MAKE A DECISION ON HOW TO REDISTRIBUTE AND I THINK AT THAT POINT, AND TYPICALLY WHAT YOU SEE IS WHEN YOU USE THE CONTRACTORS CARDS. AFTER IT CAN BE A SEVEN YEAR
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CONTRACT, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY OH, WE HAVE CARDS PAID OFF NOW. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU YOU KNOW YOUR CUSTOMERS. AH A DOLLAR DISCOUNT OR DOLLAR 50 DISCOUNT.IT JUST DOESN'T TYPICALLY WORK THAT WAY. AND SO I THINK IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL IN THAT WE'RE KEEPING THE MONEY NOW IN HOUSE AND AS I SAID, IF WE WANTED TO REINVEST IN ST IF WE JUST WANTED TO CUT THE RATES, THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THAT PREROGATIVE. OKAY, SO IT'S A FLEXIBILITY.
IT'S ONE OF THE VALUE POINTS THERE. NO I THANK YOU FOR THE FOR THE ANSWER THERE AND AGAIN.
THANK YOU TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND TO THE EVALUATION TEAM. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WORK BUT FORWARD AND THIS AND I KNOW OUR CITIZENS APPRECIATE THE LEVEL OF CARE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TAKEN WITH THIS. THANK YOU. CORRECT. I ECHO THE COMMENTS. UH, FOR THE EVALUATION TEAM, AND THE TIME SPENT FOR THAT ALSO DO ECHO THE COMMENTS. WHERE UH, REGARDING CWD AND THEIR PARTICIPATION OUR COMMUNITY. I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE FOR THAT OVER MANY DIFFERENT AREAS. SO THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS FROM CWD. BOB I WANT TO GO BACK TO CHARLES QUESTION, THOUGH. BECAUSE IT CONCERNS ME MORE THAN ANY OF THE THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. THAT SOMEHOW I'LL JUST ASK, DID DID YOU GIVE REPUBLIC REPUBLICS BID TO ANY OF THE COMPETITORS OF YOUR STAFF? NO, SIR. THE NUMBERS. PROBLEM. C W D S PROPOSAL WAS ON JUNE 2ND. THE BAFFLE WAS JUNE 2ND. RIGHT AND WHEN WERE THE WHEN WAS THE PACKAGE BUT PUBLISHED JUST FOR THE RECORD. IT WAS PUBLISHED LAST FRIDAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THE 23RD. SO DO YOU KNOW IF ANY OF YOUR STAFF MEMBERS THAT MIGHT HAVE RELEASED IT? I HAVE NOT. I JUST RECEIVED THE LETTER AND STARTED FOCUSING ON THERE. TODAY SO NO, I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO RESEARCH THAT OBVIOUSLY, WE WILL HAVE A TALK WITH STAFF ON THE BIG PROCESS AND THAT BEDS BIT INFORMATION PRIOR TO DECISIONS IS CONFIDENTIAL AND AS I SAID, IF WE HAD RECEIVED AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST FOR IT, WE WOULD SIMPLY HAVE DENIED IT BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS. WE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE TOWN TO HAVE A REPUTATION OF IMPARTIALITY. AND INTEGRITY IN TERMS OF HOW WE AND FAIR DEALING IN TERMS OF HOW WE ADMINISTER OUR BIDS, AND WE'VE TRIED VERY HARD TO DO THAT, BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET THAT REPUTATION THAN YOU GET A WHOLE LOT MORE PARTICIPATION IN BIDS AND BETTER PRICING. IT'S BETTER FOR THE CITIZENS. IT'S BETTER FOR THE CONTRACTORS, AND SO WE TRY VERY HARD TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ISSUE. APPROVAL OF 16. ALL RIGHT , CHARLES COTTON MOVES FOR APPROVAL. DO I HAVE A 2ND 2ND FROM AMY BARTLEY? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER, 17 IS
[17. Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon a request to rezone 69.9± acres from Agriculture (A), a portion of Planned Development-40 (PD-40), and a portion of Single Family-12.5 (SF-12.5) to Planned Development-Single Family (PD-SF), generally to allow for a residential development and retirement housing development, located on the southeast corner of Prosper Trail and Teel Parkway.]
CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERING ACT UPON A REQUEST TO REZONE 69.9 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE. A PORTION OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT 40 A PORTION OF SINGLE FAMILY. 12.5 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT SINGLE FAMILY GENERALLY TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND RETIREMENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF PROSPER TRAIL AND TEAL PARKWAY, MISTER DAVID SOTO. DAVE IN THERE AND CAMPS MEMBERS. AS MENTIONED. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CROSSWORD TRAIL UNTIL THE PARKWAY. THE APPLICANT HAS MADE MULTIPLE MODIFICATIONS AND THE LATEST REVISION PRIOR TO PLANNING AND ZONING THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN MODIFICATIONS TO REMOVE THE RETIREMENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND TO DEVELOP THE ENTIRE TRACT OF LAND AS SINGLE FAMILY. THIS WILL CONSIST OF LOTS STARTING AT MINIMUM OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 170 LOTS AS A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OPS WITH THE GROWTH DENSITY OF 2.3 UNITS PER ACRE. AS YOU CAN SEE, IN FRONT OF ME. THERE IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN. WHICH WILL BE PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PLANNED[01:50:03]
DEVELOPMENT. UM AGAIN. WE HAVE WINDSONG RANCH JUST TO THE WEST . UM PARK PLACE JUST TO THE EAST AND THEN RTG JUST TO THE SOUTH. THERE ARE SOME DEVIATIONS FROM OUR SF 10 ZONE INDUSTRY, UM, FOR THE P D, AND THE APPLICANT DID REQUEST THE BASE STONING TO FOLLOW THE SF 10, WHICH IS, UM, ARGUMENT, UM, 10,000 SQUARE FEET . AND SO I DID PROVIDE A COMPARISON CHART. UM AND HIGHLIGHTED WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE? AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UM WITHIN SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES ARE THE LOT DEPTH THE VERY HARD SIZE OF YARDS, MINIMUM DWELLING AREAS AND THEN THE LOT COVERAGE. AS FOR THE EXTERIOR MATERIALS, THE APPLICANT WILL ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR BUILDING MATERIALS AND FOLLOW WHAT OUR TOWN OF PROSPEROUS ONLY ORDINANCE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DOES ALLOW FOR A GATED ENTRY AND PRIVATE STREETS. AS ALWAYS, WE LOOK TOWARDS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND FOR THIS ONE, WE DID LOOK AT THE, UM, DENSITY AND THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED. AND UM, ALTHOUGH THAT THE RESIDENTS OF MEDIUM DENSITY INCLUDES A LOT SIZES THAT RANGE FROM 12,500 TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET. UM THE DENSITY WOULD NEED TO BE WITHIN THE 1.6 12 UNITS PER ACRE AND BETWEEN THE 2.5 20 UNITS BREAKER , THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 2.3 GROWTH DENSITY IN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THEREFORE THE REZONING REQUEST TO CONFORM TO THE RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.WE LOOKED AT THIS. I MEAN, ANALYZE DIFFERENT AREAS, UM, ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT WINDSONG RANCH. WE RAN THOSE NUMBERS FROM THE ORIGINAL P D. WE LOOKED AT STAR TRAIL. UM THINK WINDSONG RANCH WAS LOOKING AT 1.7. BASED ON THEIR 3000 LOTS, AND THAT WAS A GROSS DENSITY AND THEN START TRAIL WAS 2.47. OF THEIR GROWTH DENSITY, SO WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT FOLLOWING WHAT THE LANGUAGE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN I TALKED ABOUT THE GROSS DENSITY. REGARDING UM UM, PLANNING AND ZONING AT THEIR JUNE 6TH 2023. THE FINDINGS OF THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED TO THE TOWN COUNCIL TO DENY THE REQUEST WITH THE VOTE THREE TO THEY WERE SOME CONCERNS REGARDING, UM AMENITIES IN THE SUBDIVISION. I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO THIS PLAN. UM, THE FLOODPLAIN. I KNOW. UM THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS OF FROM ARTEMISIA ABOUT THE EFFECTS AND WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS, THEY DID DO SOME MODIFICATIONS TO MOVE. UM SOME OF DEVELOPMENT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. UM AND ALSO SOME OTHER CONCERNS WAS THE ACCESS POINTS AGAIN TO CREATE ANOTHER ACCESS POINT. THEY ORIGINALLY HAD THAT IN, BUT WITH THE REVISED CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THEY DID REMOVE THAT AND THEN AGAIN, JUST DENSITY DENSITY, LOOKING AT THE DENSITY OF SUBTRACTING THE FLOODPLAIN AND THE RIGHT AWAY, AND IF HE DID THE NET DENSITY UM , WHICH IS JUST A DEVELOPMENT LAND, THEN THE DON'T YOU GO UP TO 2.9. AS. SO WE DID THE DENSITY BASED OFF OF THE NET DENSITY AND NOT THE GROWTH SO WE WOULD SUBTRACT THE FLOODPLAIN AND THEY'RE ALL RIGHT AWAY. DEDICATION WOULD INCREASE. HMM.
BUT AGAIN FOR THE COMPLAINT. WE DO LOOK AT THE GROWTH AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE GOT TO WHERE THE 2.3 SO THAT'S ALWAYS TOWN STAFF DID ORIGINALLY SENT OUT LEGAL REPLY FORMS AND, UM, WE DID SEND OUT NOTICES RECEIVED FIVE NOTICES, UM FROM CITIZENS, ONE WITH WITHDRAWN. AS OF YESTERDAY. AND THE REST WERE FROM ARTEMISIA. AFFAIRS FOR RECOMMENDATION. TOWN STAFF ORIGINALLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AS OPPOSED TO USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES, MEANING THAT ORIGINALLY THEY HAD A RETIREMENT HOUSING, WHICH IS SOME SORT OF FORM OF MULTIFAMILY. UM HOWEVER, WITH THE CONCERNS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, AS MENTIONED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, UH, TOWN SOUTH HAS REQUESTED THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS FROM COMMISSIONERS AND AT THE TIME OF THE PACKET, WHICH WAS PUBLISHED LAST FRIDAY. THE AFRICAN DID NOT PROVIDE ANY REVISIONS AND THEREFORE TOWN SAP DID RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE ZONING REQUESTS. HOWEVER THE APPLICANT DID REVISE THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN. UM WHICH WAS SUBMITTED TO US AROUND NOON. AND SO THERE IS A REVISED CONCEPTUAL PLAN IN THEIR POWER POINT THAT THEY WILL PRESENT TO US AND STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE CHANCE
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TO REVIEW THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN. OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING HAPPINESS HERE TO PRESENT AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I THINK YOU MAY HAVE, UH, ANSWERED THIS EARLIER, BUT.YOU KNOW WHEN THE APPLICANT PRESENTS THE PLAN? IS THAT SOMETHING? WE'RE ABLE TO DECIDE ON TONIGHT OR DOES IT NEED TO GO BACK TO THAT POINT? SO PROBABLY NEEDED TO SEE. AND IF TERRY CAN HELP US WITH THIS JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME MODIFICATIONS AGAIN, WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO COMPLETELY LOOK AT IT AS WE RECEIVED IT TODAY, BUT WE CAN WE CAN TALK TO OUR TOWN ATTORNEYS TO YOU. MY QUESTIONS SIMILAR IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT UM CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WOULD I WOULD ASSUME SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE EXHIBIT WITH THEM CHANGE SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY I MEAN, I GUESS WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES. THEY WANT TO PRESENT IT TO US, BUT I WOULD LIKE A CHANCE TO PROVE REVIEW THAT BEFORE WE APPROVE IT, ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE EXHIBIT SO WE COULD TAKE ACTION ON THIS ITEM. AND IF IT DENIED THEY COULD REPRESENT THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLANET LATER DATE. I DON'T READ THEM. YES I MEAN COUNCIL SERVICE TABLE AFTER YOU WERE IF YOU IF YOU'RE I WANT TO LOOK AT IT FOR I MEAN AGAIN. WE DON'T DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CHANGES ARE. DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS MAY CHANGE AND AGAIN.
OTHER THINGS MAY CHANGE BASED ON WHAT THEY PRESENT WHICH CASE YOU COULD EITHER REMANDED BACK TO P AND Z FOR CONSIDERATION OR POSTPONE CONSIDERATION TO HAVE ABOUT EVALUATION OF LATER DATE AND TIME. CAN WE HEAR THE CHANGES AND THEN IF IT'S SIGNIFICANT TABLE IT UNTIL WE CAN SEE IT IN WRITING AND SEE THE I MEAN THE RIGHT EXHIBITS? I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT YOU KNOW, AS AS YOU KNOW, I'M A STICKLER FOR THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE I'M A DEVIL IN THE DETAILS, GIRL, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE IS GOING TO MATCH UP WITH WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW US BECAUSE YOU CAN SHOW A PICTURE AND IT MAY NOT MATCH THE TEXT. MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE STARTING. A DISTURBING TREND OF YOU CAN TURN IT IN AT NOON AND, WELL, TRUE, THAT IS THAT IS ACCURATE. THAT IS VERY TRUE. THAT IS THAT IS VERY IT'S ALREADY BEEN THROUGH PNC Z HASN'T SEEN THIS NEW CONCEPT PLAN AT ALL. UM AND IT WAS DENIED. WE SAID IT. WE SIT UP HERE ALL THE TIME AND CHANGE THE PLANS WHEN PEOPLE COME TO US, AND THEY WORK IT OUT . THE ATTORNEY AND THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE DEVELOPER AND OUR STAFF WORK OUT THOSE CHANGES. WE HAD ASKED HIM TO ADVERBS BURNS. WE ASKED THEM TO DO CHANGES IN LANES. WE ASKED ALL SORTS OF STUFF. SO LET'S HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. BEFORE WE START DECIDING WE WANT TO SEND THEM AWAY. THAT'S MY PREFERENCE. I BRING YOU A CONCEPT PLAN BEFORE THE MEETING . I CAN GO AHEAD AND WE DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE SIT HERE AND ASK HIM TO CHANGE THINGS, AND THEY AGREE TO CHANGE THINGS FOR US, AND THERE'S NO CONCEPT PLAN. SO IT SEEMS TO ME WE OUGHT TO LISTEN AND SEE AND LET'S SEE IF IT'S SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH THAT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T LIVE WITH, OR NOT, TYPICALLY, IN THOSE TIMES WHERE THEY'RE PRESENTING TO US, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVING. BEING EASY QUESTIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. YEAH, BUT THEN WE ASKED FOR CHANGES AND WE GET CHANGES. SO LET'S SEE WHAT THEIR CHANGES ARE. SO LET ME I'LL CARRY THAT THROUGH. WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY TO ME IS THEY HEARD P AND Z. THEY ARE RESPONDING TO THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES FROM PNC TO PERHAPS PRESENTED TO US NOW AND TOO LATE, MAYBE LATER THAN WE WOULD PREFER. BUT LET'S HEAR AND SEE.
UNDER THAT STAFF CONTEXT CAN AGREE WITH YOU, RIGHT? WELL AND ADDITIONALLY YOU KNOW, I BASED ON THE PACKET. NOW THEY MAY COME WITH US WITH CHANGES. BUT BASED ON THE PACKET, I HAVE A CASE TO BE MADE FOR CHANGES AS WELL, SO IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO THEM TO HEAR SORT OF WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR AS WELL, IF I CAN GET AGREEMENT, SO AND THEN WE CAN TABLE IF WE NEED TO. OKAY, LET'S HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. ALRIGHT WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO PRESENT ADDRESS COUNCIL.
MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BILL ANDERSON WITH PAID DAWSON ENGINEERS. UM WITH ME. TONIGHT IS ALSO NATE PARROT. HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE BEGINNING JUST FOR POINTS OF CLARITY AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION. SYSTEM. THE LAST.
TIME WE WERE THERE. TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS WERE ABSENT. AND, UM WE TRY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT THAT CYCLONE DID NOT CHANGE. WHAT WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THEY HAD IS. WHAT CAN YOU DO IN THAT PARK? WHAT'S WHAT'S IT CAPABLE OF HANDLING AND ETCETERA? ANOTHER THING THAT WAS POSITIVE FOR US? IT GAVE US BACK A CHANCE TO REFLECT ON IT.
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WE REALLY WANT PROSPER HILLS. TO BE AN EXTENSION OF PARK PLACE AS AS ONE ONE COMMUNITY NOW FOR PURPOSES OF APPLICATION. WE KEPT THE NAME THE SAME, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE CONFUSION TO ANYONE BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES ALREADY ZONED. IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, ETCETERA. UM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT. WE DIDN'T WE DID NOT CHANGE THE PD.TEXT, UM FROM THE LAST TIME THE QUESTIONS ARE, I THINK, TO SOME EXTENT IS A CLARIFICATION OF THINGS WHEN I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT. WE NEVER DO A NET GROSS DENSITY LIKE THAT WAS DESCRIBED BECAUSE WE DID A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS CITY FROM LA SEEMA TO START TRAIL TO.
I MEAN, IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON A LOT OF GENERAL CREEK. WE ENGINEER AND I GET IT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF NICE HOMES IN THERE IN THE HOMES THAT IN A LOT OF THOSE COMMUNITIES YOU'RE REFERRING TO, UM WERE THE SAME SIZE AND LOT SIZES. UM THAT WHAT WE HAVE, EXCEPT THE DIFFERENCE IS, IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE OVERALL AREA, THAT'S THAT'S IN THIS OVERALL ZONING CLASSIFICATION OR IN A CONFERENCE MASTER PLAN, UM THIS AREA THAT YOU SEE IN YELLOW HERE IS LARGER. ANYTHING AROUND IT. IN FACT, THERE THIS YELLOW AREA IS EQUIVALENT SOME OF THE LARGEST LOTS THAT THEY HAVE. AND UH AND THE CLOSEST THING TO US IS PARTS OF STAR TRAIL NOW IT'S NOT THE STUFF THAT'S CONTIGUOUS TO THAT. THAT IS. THOSE ARE 55 AND 65. FT LOTS THAT ARE IN STAR TRAIL THAT ARE THAT ARE ALONG THERE. THERE'S SOME POSITIVES ABOUT THIS, UM THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION THAT WE THINK THE CITY WILL DO A GREAT JOB OF BUILDING A PARK TO THE NORTH. I CAN'T SAY THAT EVERY COMMUNITY IN THE CITY HAS A PARK THIS SIZE OR THIS CLOSE TO AS AN AMENITY FOR COMMUNITY AND THE REASON THAT WE ORIENTED THIS LIKE WE DID IS WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. SO WHEN THE BARS I MEAN THESE WERE A MILLION A MILLION DOLLAR HOMES THAT COME IN THERE, AND WE WANTED THOSE PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE THAT THEY THEY GET A SENSE OF THE COMMUNITY BY THE PARK THEY DRIVE IN FROM THE EAST OR THEY COME IN FROM THE SOUTH. AND THEY FEEL THAT THAT SENSE OF ARRIVAL. UM YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PROJECTS IN FRISCO. WE'VE DONE THEM HERE. THE NUMBER OF LOTS FOR THE NUMBER OF PENETRATIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. UM I MEAN RICHWOODS AND FRISCO, FOR EXAMPLE. I HAD THREE ENTRANCES AND WE HAD 1600 LOTS, SO PUTTING THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE OF INGRESS EGRESS. THE REASON WE HAD THE ENTRANCES LIKE THEY WERE IN THE BEGINNING IS WE WERE GOING TO BUY FOR KATE. THE PROJECT AND THIS WAS GOING TO BE A SEPARATE PROJECT AND, AS WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER WHEN HE WANTED TO DO THAT RETIREMENT TYPE COMPONENT OF THAT WE WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS OVERALL THING IS THE HOLIEST IQ THING. THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE DIFFERENT LIFESTYLES BECAUSE THAT'S ONE MISSING LINK . IN THIS WHOLE PART OF PROSPER . THERE ISN'T A PLACE FOR YOUR OLDER RELATIVES TOGETHER. LET'S TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE THAT WAS NOT WORTH THE BATTLE THIS WEEK TO ARGUE AND STAYED WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY NOW IS IT AS IT SITS THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF PROBABLY TO THE WEST OR SMALLER LOTS. THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS MULTI FAMILY AND YOU HAVE ARTESIA, WHICH ARE SMALLER LOTS AND LIKE I SAID, THIS STUFF THAT'S TO THE EAST OF US IS ASSIGNED COMMON PROPERTY OWNER UH, SOME BENEFITS TO THIS PROPERTY TO THE CITY. IF YOU WENT OUT THERE TODAY I DROVE IT BEFORE I BEFORE I CAME HERE. UM TEAL TEAL IS A MESS. WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PROPERTY, IT NARROWS DOWN TO TWO LANES GOING NORTH. BENEFIT OF DOING THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT GETS DONE. THAT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY. I THINK WE GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE THE SOUTHERN TWO LANES. UH EAST WEST LANES ON PROSPER TRAILS, SO YOU'LL HAVE TEAL TIED IN ALL THE WAY OVER TO BASICALLY BLUE STARS , AND I THINK BLUE STARS WORKING ON THEIRS AS WELL. SO FROM AS A COMMUNITY PROJECT HAVING THOSE COMPLETED ROADS IF YOU WENT OUT THERE TODAY. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MARKET THAT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THIS IN THE CURRENT CONDITION, SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN AROUND THE PERIMETER WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT AMENITIES OR LACK THEREOF. UM WE HAVE A 10 FT TRAIL THAT GETS KIND OF GLOSSED OVER, BUT IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PROSPER TRAIL, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE EAST SIDE. OF TEAL. NOW WE ADDED THINGS WHEN YOU SAY IT. UM WHAT DID WE DO FROM THE PNC? WE ACTUALLY WENT BACK INSTEAD AND SAID, OKAY. WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? IN ADDITION AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING, THAT'S UP THERE BEFORE YOU YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE ALSO WE'RE TAKING THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL WE'RE LOOKING AT THE HOMEOWNERS ARE GOING TO BE IN THIS. WHAT IF THEY WANT TO GET ACCESS TO THIS HIKE ABOUT BECAUSE IN A WAY, I
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THINK THE TRAIL IS AS EVERYBODY'S BEAT TO DEATH IS FROM A SMALL CHILD TO AN OLDER PERSON CAN USE IT A SWIMMING POOL OR SOMETHING OPEN FOUR MONTHS OF THE YEAR. AND IT'S WHEN THE KIDS ARE ABOUT 10 OR 12 YEARS OLD. IT'S DONE NO, NO NORMAL ADULTS. BUT THE IRONY OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THESE LOTS ARE BIG ENOUGH. THERE IS AS BIG AS ANY NICE SUBDIVISION YOU HAVE IN TOWN. IF A PERSON WANTS HER OWN SWIMMING POOLS AND SUCH , YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT CRAMMED INTO A SMALL DEAL. THERE ARE NO LOTS LESS THAN 10,000 FT. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU WANT TO GO BACK, LOOK AT THE ONLY AREA THAT I EVEN HAD ANYTHING LESS THAN 100 25. FT DATE IS RIGHT WHERE THIEL CURVES. IT'S JUST A TIGHT DEAL. IT'S LESS THAN 10. OF HER LOTS. BUT EVEN NEED ANY VARIANTS AT ALL OF THE 1 25, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT AT ALL. UM THERE IS A REDUCTION IN THE LOT SIZE IF YOU MAKE YOUR LOT SHALLOWER. YOU MAKE YOUR LOT WIDER. THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME MINIMUM 10,000. ACTUALLY THIS PROJECT IS CLOSER TO 11,000. IT'S A LITTLE OVER 11,000 FT IF YOU REALLY GET RIGHT DOWN TO THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS. THAT ARE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY FROM AN ACCESS POINT OF VIEW. I THINK THE PARK TO US . I'M GOING TO SAY SELFISHLY BECAUSE THIS IS THESE ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE HOMES ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE LOTS. AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE PER SE, BUT I THINK OUR BEST OUT IS HAVING THAT PARK ACROSS THE STREET AND THE AND WHEN YOU COME IN AND YOU BRING YOUR FRIENDS IN, BRING THEM IN, LIKE ON THE SOUTH. WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT FLOODPLAIN, YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT THAT. WHAT THEY'RE CALLING IT FLOODPLAIN. THE ONLY REASON IT'S THAT WIDE IS THERE'S VIRTUALLY NO BOTTOM TO. IT'S JUST A VERY, VERY FLAT AREA. AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WE GOT WE DO THIS ALL THE TIME WE GO AND LEND THOSE OUT THERE, NOT THE GREATEST TREES THERE HACK BERRIES AND SUCH AS THAT, OKAY, BUT THEY'RE GREEN. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE TREES. WE'D LIKE TO BUILD A LIMB UP AND STUFF. AND YOU KNOW, NO ONE EVER REALLY HAS A PLACE FOR THEIR DOGS AND STUFF. THEY WANT TO TAKE THEM FOR WALKS THE BEAUTY OF THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL. MOST PEOPLE WOULD PAINT THAT. OPEN SPACES NON USABLE. IT'S 10 ACRES OF USABLE LAND US TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE WOULD SELL TO THOSE CITIZENS THAT MIGHT WANT THAT AS MORE OF A PASSIVE SITUATION, AND THEN OUR PARK IS CONTIGUOUS TO IT, AND I WILL SHOW THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES. YOU'VE SEEN A MILLION OF THESE, BUT I KIND OF LEAST WANT TO SHOW HOW THE DEMARCATIONS WOULD COME IN ON HOW WE HAVE DONE IT. YOU GUYS HAVE DRIVEN OUT THERE BASICALLY THE SAME STANDARD THAT WE'RE DOING TO PARK PLACE, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED CONSTRUCTION THAT SAME LANDSCAPE SCREENING. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU KIND OF ALMOST HAVE A TOWN STANDARD IS WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU DO.BLUE STARS PROJECT ALONG, UM, PROSPER TRAIL. IT'S A IT'S A CONSISTENT KIND OF A FEEL TO IT.
UM THIS IS JUST WE'VE SEEN A MILLION THESE, BUT THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP IS WE DO HAVE THAT SECTION THAT WOULD GO FROM TEAL OVERTIME AMENITY AREA THAT WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER. THE DOWN BELOW IS PROBABLY MORE OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ALONG YOUR THOROUGHFARES, WHICH EVERYBODY'S SEEN. SO I'M NOT. I'M NOT TRYING TO GIVE ANYTHING YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN. UM THIS THIS AREA HERE IS JUST MORE FOCUSING ON THIS IS OUR PROPERTY. UM ALL I TRIED TO SAY IS SOMEBODY MADE A COMMENT, BUT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING IN THAT PROPERTY. WELL, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, AND I HAD TO BE OBJECTIVE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, AND THE WHOLE PROJECT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE SMALL DEAL, AND THAT'S ALL YOU GOT TO LOOK AT. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW LARGE THIS IS AND WHAT WE ILLUSTRATED HERE IS WE DO BELIEVE THAT THAT THAT DOG RUNS DOC, THAT TYPE THING. BRINGS PEOPLE OUT OF THE HOUSE. WE DO HAVE SHELTER SHADE AND EVERYTHING IN THERE, TOO. AND WE HAD THE PICKLEBALL COURT THAT REALISTICALLY, THE PROPERTY COULD HAVE A COUPLE OF PICKLEBALL COURTS IF THEY IF THEY SO CHOSE TO DO THAT. I'M NOT COMPETING WITH WHAT YOU MIGHT DO IN YOUR MASTER PARK TO THE NORTH, BECAUSE REALISTICALLY, I WOULD I CAN'T GO OUT ON THEM. BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE OF THAT AND IN OUR INDUSTRY IN FACT, I'M ADVENTUROUS AND WORK CONVERTING TENNIS COURTS INTO PICKLEBALL COURTS. THAT'S THE BIG DEAL NOWADAYS. UM THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE SHADE STRUCTURES AND CETERA THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE IN THIS AND TO BE HONEST WITH WORTH THE ZONING CASE, AND WE'LL TRY TO TIE IT DOWN TO YOUR SATISFACTION AT THE SAME TIME, ANYBODY THAT'S DONE DEVELOPMENTS. YOU GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH YOUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. UM, THEY. I'VE NOT SEEN TOO MANY COMMUNITIES AND CUP AND I MEAN IT WASN'T GOD FELT FOREVER AND PROSPER THAT WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'RE NOT QUALITY PROJECTS AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOUR TOWN IS WHERE IT IS. I'M OUT. START WORKING OUT HERE IN 1997. YOU KNOW THE SAME. A WAS ONE OF MY FIRST PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT I STARTED ON AND UM, FILL JOB DID THE NEXT ONE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT, AND WE HAD WE HAD TO COME UP WITH IDEAS OF HOW WE WERE GOING TO DRAG SOMEONE BECAUSE FRISCO AT THAT TIME WAS A HEARTY DEVELOPED WHILE YOU'RE THERE NOW, AND YOU'VE GOT A GREAT GATES. YOU'VE GOT SOME NICE THINGS GOING AND, UM AND SO WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT THAT THIS IS A PLACE TO GO CHEAP. AND BUT IT'S GOING TO BE
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IT. YOU'VE GOT TO WORK WITH US TO. YOU'RE ASKING US TO PUT HOMES THAT ARE A MILLION TWO AND SLAMMING HIM RIGHT IN BETWEEN. WHEN YOU LOOK ALL THE WAY AROUND YOU IN PRODUCTS THAT ARE THAT ARE QUALITY HOMES, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SMALLER AND IN SIZE AND SO DONE A LOT OF TALKING, BUT REALLY, I WANT YOU TO LEAVE IT WITH THIS. AT THE PNC A COUPLE OF MINUTES COMMISSIONERS FOR MISSING THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE VOTE OF HEART GOT BEFORE YOU GUYS OKAY? IT IS WHAT IT IS.SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE NOT DISCUSSED. TRIED TO CLARIFY TONIGHT BECAUSE SOME POINTS BROUGHT US WHAT'S THE VALUE DOES THIS THING BRING TO OUR CITY? AND WHEN I LOOK AT IT UM JUST JUST, UH I HATE TO SAY PRICE BUT A HOME THAT SUPPORT CHOICE OF WORDS THAT'S REALLY SHOULDN'T TOTALLY ENTER, BUT WE'RE NOT BRINGING ANYTHING IN DEROGATORY OR WE'RE NOT BRINGING ANYTHING TO A LESSER VALUE. AND SINCE WE REMOVED AN ITEM THAT WAS BEAT UP AND THROWN OUT, WHICH WAS THE RETIREMENT TYPE FACILITY, AND NOW WE'RE DOING ONE CONTIGUOUS TYPE THING. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO. 55 AND 65 AND 75 IS AN AVERAGE CRIMINAL. THESE ARE ALL HIGH LARGE LOT. HIGH END DEAL SO . WITH THAT SAID, I'VE I'VE DONE A LOT OF TALKING, BUT I HOPE IT'S SOMEWHAT PUTS IT EASY. WE DIDN'T REALLY MAKE A LOT OF RADICAL CHANGES OR OR ANYTHING, BUT I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T CLARIFIED. AND I'M HOPING THAT I CAN DO SOME OF THAT. SO WITHOUT ALL, SIT DOWN FOR A MINUTE AND HELP SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO SAY. BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU, AND I'M GONNA START OKAY. COUNCILMAN KERN. UM . UM, I'LL WAIT. IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SENT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY? HELLO, SIR. WOULD YOU MIND STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? THANKS MAN. MY NAME IS TINA GARZA. 11 23 13 COMMONS WAY. UH, THAT'S NRT ASIA. SO I THINK, REALLY, NO. I'M NOT OPPOSED OR NOT OPPOSED. I THINK FROM MY STANDPOINT AND WE'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF THE PNC MEETINGS, WE VOICED SOME CONCERNS. A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID IT WASN'T SAID BEFORE, SO IT'S KIND OF GOOD TO HEAR. UM I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHETHER YOU APPROVE OR DENYING SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE. WE JUST WANT TO BE INFORMED. A LOT OF ACTIVITIES THERE. UM WE'VE BEEN LEFT TO SPECULATION BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. AND SO WE STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS SOME THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS. BUT WHAT WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN DISCUSSIONS, BUT I THINK FROM IN TERMS OF MY COMMENTS, IT'S REALLY MORE JUST YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE NEIGHBORS.
YEAH WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD BE GOOD STEWARDS AND INCLUDE US, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? HOPE. PLEASE.
UNDER THE DEVELOPER THAT BJ HIRED. I'M NOT NOT A GOOD SPEAKER, SO I MEAN, BUT BJ HIRED ME TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU'RE SEEING UP HERE. THE PARK PLACE AND THIS PARK PLACE PHASE TWO. WITH MY APOLOGIES. YOU MIGHT GIVING US YOUR NAME. SORRY THANK YOU AGAIN. I'M NERVOUS. MY NAME IS DEAN DONKEY AND I WORKED FOR GREATER TEXAS LAND RESOURCES, AND BJ IS HIRED.
HAR. COMPANY TO DO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT FOR THESE COMMUNITIES. IN THE PAST, WE'VE DONE THE VILLAGES THAT LEGACY HERE IN PROSPER AND I'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY MULTIPLE TIMES.
THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. I'VE GOT GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM. I'VE ALWAYS DONE THINGS UP AND BEYOND. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK THAT VJ HIRED OUR COMPANY TO HANDLE THIS AND WE'VE WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR TURNING THE PAPERWORK IN ON TIME. AND SO YOU KNOW, WE DID. WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE WE HAD WON. THE GUY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME WITH BILL HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL, SO WE KIND OF WERE JUMPING THROUGH SOME HOOPS TO TRY TO GET EVERYTHING SUBMITTED AND TOGETHER TO WHAT BILL PRESENTED TONIGHT, SO THERE WERE THERE WERE A FEW SITUATIONS THAT THEN THAT OCCURRED, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, WE'VE BUILD. DID TALK ABOUT THE, UM WHAT THEY'RE CALLING WINSTON PARK. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH DAN AND KURT IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. BECAUSE MY OWNER WANTS TO BE ABLE TO. UH
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TAKE, YOU KNOW, LEVEL OUT THE LAND OVER THERE UNTIL THE PARKS DEPARTMENT COMES UP WITH SOMETHING AND BE ABLE TO SEAT IT WITH GRASS AT HIS OWN EXPENSE, JUST SO THAT IT'S ANOTHER AREA FOR PEOPLE TO PLAY PLAY SOCCER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO YOU KNOW, THERE THERE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT THE OWNER IS DOING TO TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER IN THE ENTER TOWN OF PROSPER. AND I HOPE YOU GUYS CONSIDER THAT SO ANYWAY, THAT'S HOW I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? ALRIGHT WITH THAT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AT THIS TIME IT WILL BE COUNCIL DISCUSSION. AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO CHRIS.EXCUSE ME. QUESTIONS FOR DAVID. THANK YOU TOUCH ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, AND I DIDN'T CAPTURE IT AND THEY HAD A IN THEIR PRESENTATION . THEY HAD A VERSION OF THIS MAP THAT SHOWED NEIGHBORING DENSITY NUMBERS. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED. IT JUST WAS WONDERING IF THIS DRIVES WITH YEAH, THIS ONE. IF THIS IS THE SAME STUDY THAT YOU GUYS DID SO SORRY. UM. I BELIEVE THAT THE DENSITY THAT THEY'RE GETTING IS BASED ON THE SUBDIVISION PHASE. AND NOT THE WHOLE ENTIRE OKAY? SUBDIVISION AND JASON MHM. SO I MEAN, WE SAW THESE NUMBERS OUT. WE WENT BACK AND I LOOKED INTO THE ORIGINAL WHEN ONE SONG RANCH CAME IN AND GRABBED THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LOTS DIVIDED BY THE GROSS ACREAGE.
AND THEN WE WENT TO START TRAIL. WE DID THE SAME THING FOR THAT. IS THAT WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER AGAIN? SORRY, UM SO WHEN SONG RANCH WAS 1.65 FOR THE GROWTH DENSITIES. AND THEN START CHARLES 2.47. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM OKAY. SO FIRST OFF, I WILL SAY EVEN THOUGH I REALIZED THESE PHASES AND WINDSONG RANCH AND START TRAIL MAY HAVE THE MIX OF THEIR SMALLER LOTS HOLISTICALLY.
THOSE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE A VARIETY OF LOTS AS WELL AS LOTS OF AMENITIES. ONCE I'M BRANCH HAS PUT IN MILES AND MILES AND MILES OF TRAILS, THEY HAVE FOUR AMENITY CENTERS THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DEDICATED A SITE FOR THE PUBLIC PARK. THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL SITES, AND SO IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT SORT OF DEVELOPMENT. UM TO ME. I LIVE IN PARKSIDE HERE IN PROSPER, AND IT'S MORE CAN TO THIS. IT'S GATED. IT'S A LITTLE BIT LITTLE SMALLER, UM, AND SAME THING WITH STAR TRAIL STAR TRAIL AND IT'S YOU KNOW, HOLISTICALLY HAS LARGE LOTS. IT'S A IT'S A VERY THOUGHTFUL MIX. THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF AMENITIES. SCHOOL SITES FOR PROSPER. I S D AND A LOT OF TRAILS. SO I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY, JUST CHERRY, PICK THOSE LITTLE PIECES AND COMPARE IT TO THIS IN OUR PLAN. IT IS MEDIUM DENSITY AND OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. IT IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH WHAT THAT MEANS AND IN MY MIND DOING THE LOT SIZES THAT 10,000 SQUARE FEET IS FINE. I DON'T ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'RE NOT TYING IT TOGETHER, BUT I UNDERSTAND AFTER LISTENING TO P AND Z, WHY THEY DENIED IT. I THINK P AND Z UM, DIDN'T GET THE BENEFIT OF SEEING THIS TIED TO PARK PLACE. THEY WERE LOOKING AT IT ON ITS OWN AND MAKING THE COMMENTS ABOUT AMENITY BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANYTHING PRESENTED IN THAT PLAN THAT ORIGINAL PLAN AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE POINT OF ACCESS. SO I DO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DENIED IT. HAVING SAID THAT I HAVE A FEW CONCERNS. UM ONE IS THAT THIS MAP WITH THE NEW AMENITY CENTER IN THE TRAILS IS NEW. SO I WOULD WANT THAT TO BE PART OF THE EXHIBIT THAT YOU KNOW IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN OUR PACKET TONIGHT WITH THAT, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S PART OF THE EXHIBIT. I WOULD ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE IS THERE THAT DISCUSSES THE FACT THAT THE AMENITIES CENTER WILL GO IN. I PERSONALLY LIKE IT WHEN THE AMENITY CENTER IS BUILT WITH THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, AND DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LOTS INSTEAD OF THE LOTS BEING DEVELOPED IN THE AMENITY CENTER COMES AT A LATER TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BEING DONE AT THE SAME TIME OR BEFORE. JUST SO THE RESIDENTS MOVING THEIR UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE AN AMENITY . UM SAME THING WITH THE TRAILS. THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS THAT, UM SINCE WE'RE TAKING TWO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS NOW MAKING THEM ONE AND THEY'RE GONNA BE GATED. IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE IN SECTION 10 CHAPTER , 10 IT TALKS ABOUT THE H O. A DOGS CAN BE APPROVED BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY HAS TO DO WITH THE FINANCIALS AND ALL THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR STAFF AND OUR
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TOWN ATTORNEY LOOK LOOK AT THE H O A DOCS. UM AND APPROVED THAT AS PART OF THE P D. AND IT'S NOT UNUSUAL. WE'VE DONE THAT FOR ONE SONG RANCH. WE DID THAT FOR STAR TRAIL AS WELL. UM DO YOU MEAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE OR THEY'RE BEING TOUCH TOGETHER? YEAH BEING TIED TOGETHER BECAUSE I ASSUME RIGHT NOW, PART PLACES ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THEY PROBABLY HAVE DOCUMENTS, YOU KNOW, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALL YOU KNOW. WE ALL UNDERSTAND, AND WE'RE ON THE SAME PATIENTS. IT'S GATED AS ONE COMMUNITY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY MIGHT HAVE TO MODIFY THE CURRENT HOH DOCUMENTS THAT THEY HAVE UM , AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, UM, THE. WE HAVE AN OPEN FENCING RULE. SO YOU'RE PUTTING IN TRAILS ALL ALONG PROSPER TRAIL YOU'RE PUTTING IN TRAILS ALL ALONG TO YOU, AND THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE OPEN FENCING. THEREFORE, THE 20 FT BACK YARDS.IN PROSPER HILL SECTION. I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THAT WORKS, BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE ROAD. ADDITIONALLY THERE AND YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY I WOULD LIKE TO CARRY THIS OVER TO PARK PLACE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AND BIRMINGHAM ALONG ALONG THOSE ROADWAYS, AND THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT WINDSONG RANCH AND START TRAIL THEY HAVE DONE THAT. THEY ALSO DID USE A MIX OF MASONRY AS WELL WITH THEIR WITH THEIR IRON FENCING, BUT I THINK THAT HELPS TO SORT OF BUFFER THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE TEAL IS A SIX LANE ROAD EVENTUALLY. AND I , YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE BOUGHT HOMES AND NOT UNDERSTOOD THAT A SIX LANE ROAD WAS GOING TO BE IN THEIR BACKYARD UNTIL THE SIXTH LANE ROAD STARTS TURNING DIRT AND THEN THEY GET UPSET. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE UM ASKING FOR AND THEN, LIKE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING TO BE APPROVED BY STAFF THERE. UM SOME BURNING WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE. UM AS WELL. AND YOU'VE ADDRESSED MY ISSUES WITH THE OPEN SPACE BY ADDING THE AMENITY CENTER. SO, UM I WON'T LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU, JEFF. YOU WANT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YEAH. OKAY, UH, THE PROJECT ITSELF. I LIKE IT PERSONALLY. UM. DID I HEAR RIGHT? THAT THAT, UH THE FUTURE TOWN PARK THAT Y'ALL WOULD SAY THAT. FOR PLEASE, PLEASE. MY NAME IS VJ BORA AND THAT ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS FOR THIS PROJECT TO CLARIFY TWO THINGS, PART PLACE AND PROSPER TRIALS. WE ONBOARD THE PROPERTIES. WE ALSO PROSPERED MEDALS THERE. AND WE PROBABLY A REPRESENT PROBABLY MORE THAN 1000 ACRES WITHIN THE PROSPEROUS TOWN. AND WE BELIEVE IN THIS TOWN. AND WE WANT TO DEVELOP A GOOD QUALITY PRODUCT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE WHO WORKING ON OUR PROJECTS BILL HAS DONE START TRAIL. AND DEAN HAS DEVELOPED PART PLACE AND ALL. SO COMING BACK TO THE TOWN. WE WANT TO CLEAR AND WE WANT TO. WE TALKED WITH PARKS DEPARTMENT AND WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PLAN IS FOR THIS WHOLE PARK THERE, SO WE ARE TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP. CLEAR IT UP. AND THEY HAD A PLAN OF AQUATIC CENTER OR SOMETHING. THAT PLAN PROBABLY THAT WILL TAKE 10 YEARS OR 15 YEARS WHEN THEY HAVE BUDGET TO DO THAT. THAT'S FOR THE PARKS. ARE THAT OKAY? THEN? I SAID, WHY NOT? WHY TOOLS KEEP THAT PART LIKE THERE FOR 10 15 YEARS. NOBODY CAN USE IT. SO LET ME LET'S LET'S REALLY DO WILL CLEAN IT UP BECAUSE WE HAVE PROSPERED MEDALS ALSO ON THE TOP. WHICH IS ANOTHER PROJECT, WHICH WE OWN, SO WE THOUGHT WE CAN. ALL OUR RESIDENTS CAN ENJOY THE PARK AND THE ENTRANCE IS IN FRONT OF THE PARK, WHICH IS A GOOD ENTRANCE TO THE PARK DIRECTLY. IT WILL HELP SO THAT IT IS A BETTER A BETTER ONE. AND ONE OTHER CLARIFICATION I WANT TO TELL IS I MEAN, I THINK THE STAFF IS WHEN THAT TRYING TO CALCULATE DENSITY CALCULATING ON GROWTH. ON OTHER SIDES. I THINK THEY SHOULD PROBABLY CALCULATE NET ON THE OTHER SIDE SALSA AND THAT POLYCLINIC NET ON OURS. SO THAT IS ONE THING I WANT TO POINT IT OUT. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL ANSWER MONTH. I JUST CLARIFY THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOURS IS BEING CALCULATED. NET.
NOT GROSS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CALCULATING IT EVERYTHING AT THE SAME LEVEL BASICALLY. WELL HE'S SAYING THAT HE'S SAYING THAT THEY'RE CALCULATING AT SAYING IS WHEN THEY WERE REFERRING TO
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WINDSONG. THERE'S A LOT OF FLOODPLAIN WINDSONG GUYS, WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THAT CONSIDERATION, BUT THAT'S FINE. GETTING CREDIT FOR THAT, TOO, RIGHT? BUT NOTABLE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DENSITIES HAVE BEEN A REALLY LOW IS, UM THEY THEY IT'S A QUALITY PROJECT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HIGH DENSITY. A LOT OF ONE SONG IS FAIRLY HIGH DENSITY. BUT BUT TO USE THE TERM TONIGHT ABOUT GROSS AND NET AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF IS IT'S NOT APPLES FOR APPLES BECAUSE A LOT OF THEY HAVE A LOT OF BIG FLOODPLAINS RUNNING THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY. UM I GUESS THE LAST POINT IS EVERYTHING YOU SAID. I AGREE WITH YOU, UM I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION AND THE PROJECTS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN. I WANT TO SEE THROUGH UM, I'VE BEEN AT THIS 40 YEARS. I DON'T NO, I'M PROUD OF WHAT I DO. AND SO EVERYTHING YOU ASKED IS NOT IS NOT ANYTHING I WOULDN'T BE NORMALLY USED TO AND HAS AND SOME THINGS. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BERMS SURROUNDING EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, LIKE I SAID, AND EVEN THE EVEN THE SETBACK THE 20 FT 25 FT. YOU KNOW THAT? THAT REALLY ISN'T A OVERALL FACTOR AND IF I WANTED TO LIMIT WHICH IS EASY ENOUGH FOR THE STAFF, BECAUSE THEY COUNT NUMBERS LIKE WE DO IF I LIMITED TO 10, THAT'S ALL. I DON'T EVEN NEED IT ALL OVER THE PROJECT. WE LET'S JUST NOT NOT NECESSARY ALSO ALONG THE PERIMETER THAT YOU REFERRED TO ABOUT THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPE. GOOD BAD OR OTHERWISE, YOU ALREADY HAVE IT IN YOUR ORDINANCES THAT REQUIRE THAT AND WE'RE BASICALLY EXTENDING PARK PLACE, THE EXACT SAME THING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE H O A. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO TWO UNDER THE SCENARIO TO HORUS WOULD BE ONE MASTER HOU FOR THIS COMMUNITY.THANK YOU. I THINK FOR ME, I WAS JUST WANTING TO CLARIFY THAT ALL THE WAY BECAUSE AGAIN WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT TO P AND Z, AND THEN WHEN THIS WAS PUT IN OUR PACKET, IT WAS TO BE CONSIDERED ON ITS OWN. MANAGED SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE NOW WE'RE INCORPORATING PARK PLACE INTO PROSPER HILLS, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND THE OTHER THING, TOO, THAT I DIDN'T SAY, BUT I JUST THOUGHT OF IT BECAUSE YOU MADE ME THINK OF IT WAS THE ENTRANCES SINCE IT IS GOING TO BE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THAT'S LANGUAGE. WE'VE HAD ANOTHER PDS BEFORE. UH JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE THE SAME. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THE SAME SIGN EGE, THE SAME MONUMENT SIGNAGE, THE SAME LANDSCAPING THE SAME SORT OF LOOK AS YOU'RE DRIVING INTO. UM SORT OF THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPE LOOK AND TO BE STRAIGHT UP WITH YOU. A PERSON LIVES ON THE WEST SIDE WANTS TO HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE COMING THROUGH A GATE AS THE PERSON ON THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE THIS IS HOMOGENEOUS TIE.
UM TYPE OF SITUATION SO YES, AND ACTUALLY MAKES IT EASIER ON US TO SOME EXTENT TO MAKE THEM CONSISTENT. LIKE THAT. BACK TO JEFF AND I APOLOGIZE FOR KEEPING YOU UP PERFECTLY FINE. SO MY QUESTION WAS, YES, YOU WOULD. AS YOU SAID, YOU WOULD SEE. THAT THAT FUTURE PART YEAH. YES DEFINITELY. WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE PARK ONCE I HAVE HERE, DAVID BACK DAVID DAVID BAGWELL. HE USED TO WORK FOR CAMEL CROW MEANS HE'S AT RETIREMENT, AND HE WANTED TO HELP ME IN THE THREE THREES AND ALL THAT STUFF PICKING THE RIGHT PLACE, SO WE HAVE A GREAT VISION. WE'RE NOT DOING ANY ANY LAW INTERIOR PRODUCT HERE WE ARE GOING TO BE ABOVE AND BEYOND. SO YOU'LL YOU'LL REALLY LIKE WHAT WE ARE DOING. SEE IF YOU TAKE PROSPER PARK LESS. WE DON'T NEED TO LEAVE THE PARK OR WE DON'T NEED TO LEAVE THAT THAT ANYTHING. WE CAN JUST PUT ALL 12,500 SQUARE FOOT LABS. NOBODY IS EVEN GOING TO ASK US ANYTHING BECAUSE IT IS. IT IS HARD TO MISS ARTWORK.
MINTS ARE 12,500 LOTS. WE DON'T NEED TO LEAVE THE PARK IN BETWEEN, AND WE CAN DO EVERYTHING BUT WE DECIDED TO LEAVE THAT ON OUR OWN. WE ARE CREATING A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMUNITY IS LIKE A INDOOR SPACE CONDITIONS. SPACE THERE IN PARK PLACE, SO WE WANT TO CREATE A GOOD PRODUCT MEANT AGAIN. THIS IS THE PROCESSES. WE DON'T PUT EVERYTHING IN THE BEAUTY WITH WE DO IT IN THE PLANT LIKE THIS IS THE ONLY ONCE WE THE FINAL PLANS ARE DONE. EVERYTHING WILL BE THERE. OKAY SO MY QUESTION IS THAT I WOULD BE AWESOME DID THAT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO WATER THAT WHICH ONE THE IRRIGATION? YEAH WITH THE WAY IT IS, I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING STAYING ALIVE THAT LONG. DAVID BAGWELL AND WILL PROBABLY ANSWER IT BETTER BECAUSE THEY ARE THE EXPORTS.
BUT THERE IS THERE'S PLANS TO HAVE THE TIME. AH IRRIGATION OR THE AREA. THAT'S ALRIGHT.
BASICALLY THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHERE THE TREES THE TREE LINE IS EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH OF THERE ALREADY TALKED TO, UM, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO KURT AND DAN ABOUT IF ANYBODY
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IF YOU HAD ANY EGG INTO THAT, AND IF YOU DON'T, THEN I WAS GOING TO GET SOMEBODY TO COME OVER AND CLEAR THAT CLEAR THE PROPERTY LEVEL EVERYTHING OUT. AND THEN RECEDED WITH BERMUDA GRASS. REAL SEATED. UM WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE UNTIL THE FALL JUST BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF TEMPERATURES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT BE ABLE TO SEE IT. IT'S WHERE WE GET THE RAIN. AND THERE'S NOT ANY GOOD NOT GONNA BE ANY IRRIGATION. BUT WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT MOWED AND LEVELED AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND IF IT IF THE GRASS DOESN'T GROW, THEN WELL SEATED AGAIN. OKAY BUT LIKE I SAY, THE INTENT IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE YOU KNOW? ANYBODY FROM WINDSONG OR ANYWHERE, COME PLAY SOCCER OR BASEBALL OR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO IN THAT AREA, RIGHT? KIDS LOOK FOR A PLACE TO PLAY. AND THE REASON I ASK THE QUESTIONS AS WE'VE HAD DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THEY'VE HAD PARKLAND SET ASIDE AND IT WASN'T IRRIGATED, AND IT JUST PRETTY MUCH TURNED INTO DEAD GRASS LINE UNTIL THEY GOT TO A CERTAIN STAGE. AND SO, UM, I HATE FOR YOU TO INVEST MONEY IN IN TRYING TO BUILD THAT UP, ONLY TO HAVE IT DIE AND I GET THAT, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'RE WE'RE THERE'S SOME PAPERWORK THAT STILL HAS TO BE COMPLETED BETWEEN PARKS DEPARTMENT AND BJ, AND WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT DONE BEFORE I CAN. I'LL EVEN TOUCH ANYTHING BUT AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE EXCESS DIRT THAT WE'RE ALSO TALKING TO HIM ABOUT THAT. IF THEY COULD USE THE DIRT ON THIS PROPERTY, WE WOULD BASICALLY JUST HOLD IT OVER THERE AND LEVEL LEVEL THAT OUT TO EXTEND ANY TYPE OF FIELDS THAT THEY HAVE IN THE FUTURE. OKAY AND LIKE I SAID, WHAT I SEE RIGHT NOW. I LIKE THE PROJECT. MY PROBLEM IS THE PROCESS AND HOW WE HAVE ADDED THINGS THAT WERE.NOT GIVEN TO PNG AND HAVE NOT BEEN LOOKED AT BY STAFF. I FEEL THAT THAT SHOULD BE A STEP THAT WE SHOULD DO, UM JUST TO MAKE SURE ALL OUR TEASER CROSSED AND I'S ARE DOTTED. SO UM, MY ADVICE AND MY RECOMMENDATION ON THIS WAS WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE WE GO BACK TO THE PROPER CHANNELS. BUT UM, LIKE I SAID, AS I SEE IT RIGHT NOW, I DO HAVE A QUESTION WITH, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BARTLEY'S UM, THE FENCE. THE IRON FENCING. BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THAT ON PUBLIC ROADS. UM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THAT NECESSARILY, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT I THINK NEEDS ATTENTION. UM, BUT AGAIN. LIKE I SAID, I THINK THE PROJECT IS GOOD AS AS I SEE IT RIGHT NOW. OKAY? COUNCILMAN COTTON. A COUPLE OF THINGS DID DID THEY COMMIT TO BUILD DID I HEAR HIM COMMIT TO BUILD THE AMENITY CENTER AS A PART OF THIS PHASE? NOT YET. I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN ASKED FOR TWO PHASE PROJECT IS NOT UNDERSTAND. SO IT IS A TWO PHASE ZONING. WE'RE NOW WE'RE NOW GIVING. WE'RE NOW CONSIDERING GIVING YOU ZONING EXCEPTIONS HERE THROUGH MEDIA, AND IT'S A PART OF THAT. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOUR PARK AND YOUR AMENITY CENTER COMMITTED. TO BE BUILT. AS A PART OF THESE, SO YOU DON'T YOU DON'T GO BUILD THESE LOTS OR SELL. THESE LOTS ARE GET A FEEL ON THESE LOTS UNTIL THOSE TWO THINGS ARE COMPLETED. THAT'S FAIR. SO LET'S FOR THE CONTEXT OF THIS. LET'S CALL IT PROSPER HILLS JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THE CONVERSATION IN THIS PHASE GETS BUILT. WHICH HE WANTS TO BUILD IT RIGHT NOW. THIS PHASE THAT GOES IN WITH I UNDERSTAND. OKAY BUT MAKE THAT RIGHT NOW HE'S AHEAD OF THEIR AHEAD OF THE GAME OVER ON PARK PLACE, SO THEY'RE PROBABLY NINE MONTHS AHEAD. ON THE OTHER SIDE, SO WELL YEAH, THERE'S A CATCH UP. THERE WILL BE A CATCH UP ON THIS SO THAT THAT WAS ONE THING I HAD. THE OTHER ONE WAS UH, AGREE WITH AMY THAT I DON'T LIKE 20 FT. SETBACK ON TILL AND PROSPER TRAIL. I DON'T WANT A VARIANCE THERE FOR THAT. I WANT THOSE TO HAVE 25 FT SETBACKS. JUST KEEP IT AT THE 25 . I CAN I CAN MAKE THE LOSS WORK AT THE 25. THAT'S OUR THAT'S IN OUR ORDINANCE, ANYWAY. IS THAT IS THAT ACROSS THE BOARD, YOU CAN GET THEM ALL 25 NEEDED. I DID NOT NEED IT FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. ANYWAY I MEAN 90, OR 95% OF THE PROJECT WAS 120 FT. 5 FT, DEEPER AND DEEPER ANYWAY, SO IT WAS ONLY THERE WAS ONLY LIKE 300 FT OF WITH OF LOTS THAT EVEN COMPLIED. THEY NEEDED TO FEEL BETTER IF YOU WOULD NOT NEED THAT VARIANTS REQUIRE THAT AMERICANS THOSE TWO THINGS. THE PARK, THE AMENITY CENTER. THE SETBACKS. I WANT TO KNOW AS A PART OF THAT. I WANT SOME SOMETHING IN THE P D. I KNOW. VJ SAYS THAT WILL COME IN THE PLANNING, BUT I WANT SOMETHING IN THE PD THAT GIVES US SOME BASIC DESIGN CONCEPT OF WHAT THE AMENITY CENTER AND THE PARK CONSISTS OF. YOU'VE GIVEN US A PLAN PARK AND I WANT WOULD LIKE
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TO SEE THAT PLAN SUBSTANTIALLY IN THAT FORMAT. YEAH IT OUT AS PART OF THE WANT TO MOVE THE DOG PARK AROUND DOWN TO THE SOUTH AND MOVED THE KIDS STILL UP, BUT THE COMPONENTS WITHIN IT ARE VERY REASONABLE AND THERE THEY WOULD BE APPRECIATED BY THIS COMMUNITY. SO HE'S NOT OPPOSED TO THAT AT ALL. THOSE THINGS DON'T BOTHER ME MOVE GIVING YOU SOME FLEXIBILITY. BUT YOU HAVEN'T DEFINED ANYTHING. THE AMENITY CENTER AS FAR AS I KNOW. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN PROPOSING ON THAT. UH, AND WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO COMMIT TO OH, MAN, BEFORE WE BEFORE I AM WILLING TO VOTE FOR THIS ONE. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, SO PARK PLACE HAS BEEN GRADED.RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S NO ROAD BECAUSE IT'S A DROVE OVER THERE ON SUNDAY. IT'S DIRT ROAD ENDS SO TO YOU'LL IS THERE A LITTLE BIT YOU CAN ACCESS PROSPER HILLS WITH TEAL AND THE PORTION OF PROSPER TRAIL THAT WINDS ON RANCH HAS PUT IN UM SO YOU'RE GOING TO ACT. SO IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY BE OPENING THESE LOTS FIRST HAS TO GET BUILT THE TWO LANES CONTIGUOUS TO THIS PROPERTY GET BUILT WITH THIS. WHAT WE'RE CALLING NOW.
PROSPER HILLS, WHICH IS PHASE TWO. YOU KNOW? PARK PLACE IT GETS THAT GETS BUILT NORTH GETS BUILT. THAT ALL GETS DONE BECAUSE ALSO, IT FRAMES IN YOUR LANDSCAPE. THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR AND YOUR HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AND ALL THAT THAT ALL GETS BUILT WITH THIS. PART OF THE PROJECT.
WHICH OF THE WAY AHEAD OF YOUR FUTURE TOWN PARK, BUT I MEAN, BUT IT WILL BE A GREAT AMENITY FOR THIS COMMUNITY. I GUESS IN MY MIND, I WAS THINKING PROCESS PART PLACE WAS COMING FIRST, SINCE YOU'RE GRADING OVER THERE ALREADY. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S AN EXCESSIVE. IT'S AN ACCESS THING. RIGHT. PROSPER TRAIL, OKAY? I'LL KEEP ON BRIEF BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTARY ON THIS AND IT WASN'T PLANNING BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU, BJ BILL AND DEAN FOR SPEAKING TONIGHT. I'VE GOT JUST A FEW CONCERNS, RIGHT AND PART OF IT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE INFORMATION BEFORE, BUT UM , THE DENSITY IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE CLOSELY ALIGNED TO PARK PLACE. HOW THAT MIGHT LOOK ALSO THE WEIGHTS. YOU NEED SOME GREEN SPACE, RIGHT? EVERY ONE OF THESE. IT'S ROSE, AND YOU'VE ONLY GOT ONE ENTRANCE AND EGRESS IF THAT IS GATED IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN PARK PLACE AND PROSPER HILLS. UM SEE ANOTHER COMMUNITIES OR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE. WE ONLY HAVE ONE ENTRANCE. KNOWING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE YOU KNOW SCHOOLS THAT WAY YOUNG DRIVERS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AH, A SECOND. AGGRESSIVE POSSIBLE, UM, CONSOLIDATING. ALSO ONE ENTRANCE . UM IT'S CONCERNING. I DO. SEE THEY BOTH JUMP OUT TO ONE ROAD. UM BUT NOTHING FROM THE NORTH SIDE IN, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR OTHER. EASTERN CAMPUS. THEIR EASTERN LOTS. YOU'VE GOT THOSE WHERE YOU'VE GOT TWO ENTRANCES TO KIND OF SPREAD THE TRAFFIC FLOWS SO UM MAYBE A LITTLE MORE GREEN SPACE AND THEY'RE NOT ARKANSAS THAT ONE TO THE ADDRESSES. AND THE DENSITY. SO YOU. I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS THAT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT I'LL TRY TO KEEP TRY TO GO REALLY FAST HERE, UM, ON THE INGRESS EGRESS, DAVID, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS. UH FIRE HAS LOOKED AT THIS RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT, HAVE LOOKED AT THIS COMBINED PLAN. YES OR NO. NOT THE COMBINED PLAN, BUT THEY DO HAVE ACCESS TO THE PRELIMINARY PLATT THAT WAS APPROVED. FOR PARK PLACE FOR PARK PLACE. BUT NOT PROSPER HILLS. OKAY SO TO ME, THAT'S A THAT'S A BOX. WE NEED TO CHECK, RIGHT? UM, THEY SAID HE TOLD US THAT HE WAS AGREEABLE AND. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD AGREED TO THE PROSPER HILLS ACCESS IN THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE YOU AND I WERE TOLD YES, ORIGINALLY, UM, WHEN THIS WAS SUBMITTED, WE DID RUN THIS BY JUST ON THE PROSPER HILLSIDE. AND THEY LOOKED AT TWO POINTS OF ACCESS, WHICH IS ONE OFF OF TEAL, AND THEY LOOKED AT THE SECOND POINT OF ACCESS. BUT YOUR TO YOUR QUESTION, HE SAID. IF THEY LOOKED AT PARKS PLACE, AND THEY DIDN'T SEE, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T SEE A WHOLE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION PLAN. BUT THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN ON PROSPER HILL WAS APPROVED BY FIRE. AS OF RIGHT NOW, HILLS INDEPENDENTLY.
YES, YES, YES, TOGETHER. IT'S NOT WORSE. IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE FIRE HAS HAS PASSED THAT TEST ENGINEERING HAVE BOTH LOOKED AT THIS CONCEPTUAL. BUT IF BUT IF PROSPER HILLS SECTION STARTS CONSTRUCTION FIRST, THEY HAVE TO HAVE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS JUST
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TO EVEN START CONSTRUCTION. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT OUR ORDINANCE CORRECT. SO IF IT'S OVER HERE AND ON OFF OF PROSPER TRAIL THAT DOESN'T EXIST. HOW WOULD THEY HAVE THERE TOO? I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO WORK OUT. BUT THAT IS A POINT OF CLARITY. I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE. YEAH. SO TYPICALLY, I THINK THAT WE RAN INTO SOME SITUATION LIKE THAT BEFORE IN A SUBDIVISION AND ENGINEERING OR FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL WORK OUT WITH THE DEVELOPER. I THINK I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS AN ANSWER, PERHAPS, OR SOME INSIGHT. TAKING CARE OF WITH WHAT'S ON PART OF PLACE. AND THEN ONCE THIS GETS APPROVED AND WE GET A GOOD SET OF PLANS. THEN WE'LL BUILD THAT OUT. SO THAT THAT'S PROBABLY. LET ME JUST SAY SIX MONTHS OUT BEFORE BEFORE I STARTED. PHASE TWO. YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. AND I'D BE WILLING TO DO THIS IF WE CAN. I THINK ALL I REALLY TRIED TO CHANGE HERE IS POINTS OF CLARIFICATIONS FROM ANYTHING THAT'S EVER BEEN DONE. BUT SOME OF YOUR POINTS ARE TAKEN THAT PAPER IN THEM UP WOULD BE A POSITIVE AND I'M I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S FINE. WHAT I ASKED FOR IS IF WE COULD TABLE THIS TO NEXT AGENDA, THE LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU NEED POINTS OF INFORMATION ON LIKE NATURE A DOCUMENTS SHOW US THAT YOU KNOW THE MINOR. I MEAN, I CALL IT MINOR, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AT THE THINGS HE ASKED ABOUT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO COMMIT IN THE AND, UH, OPEN SPACE AREAS EVEN THOUGH WE SHOW IT HERE, GRAPHICALLY. UM I WOULD LIKE IT CLEANED UP. I DON'T HAVE CLAIMED THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THEM. REALLY TRYING TO SAY, UM AND I THINK I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT STAFF TOO HARD HERE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE ASKING FOR A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES THAT WE COULDN'T CLARIFY AND TAKE OUT THE 20 TO 25 YOU KNOW THAT. THAT THAT DEPTH ISSUE THAT YOU HAD UM . IF WE COULD MAYBE GET ON THE NEXT AGENDA. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, I THINK SOME OF THESE ISSUES NEED TO BE IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AGREE TABLE ZONING, CORRECT. SO COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COME ON HERE. I JUST GOTTA I'M GONNA GO REAL QUICK HERE. ON BOARD WITH METAL WOOD. COUNCILMAN BARTLEY HAS SAID, UM, JUST A COUPLE QUICK THINGS. DO WE EVER TAKE A LOOK AT BLENDED DENSITY OF THESE TWO? OF THESE TWO PIECES HERE OR NO.THESE ARE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD DENSITY BUT ON THIS SCREEN YOU SEE BEHIND YOU IS IT'S 2.1 IN THE ONTO THE RIGHT TO THEM. EAST AND 2.3 TO THE LEFT. BUT IS IT NOT QUITE RIGHT? BUT OKAY, WHICHEVER WAY YOU WANT AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CLEAN THAT UP. JUST YEAH, JUST MAKE SURE WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT CLOTHES. MAKE SURE WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE STUFF . WHAT COUNCILMAN BARTLEY SAID ABOUT THE ABOUT THIEL PARKWAY IN THE LOTS. BACKING UP OVER THERE WITH WITH LANDSCAPING OR OR WITH SOME TYPE OF LANDSCAPING TO SHIELD THEM. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT. AND THEN THE LAST PIECE REALLY, DAVID IS WHEN, WHEN WHATEVER WE DO TONIGHT. IF YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE NZ GETS BRIEFED, BECAUSE WHAT THEY SAW WAS WAY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING TONIGHT. AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO KEEP EVERYBODY IN THE LOOP, ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH WHATEVER WE DECIDE TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO YEAH. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. ONE VJ APPRECIATE YOUR INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WILLINGNESS TO BRING THIS FORWARD. I DO HAVE A IF YOU DON'T MIND, COME BACK TO THE PODIUM AND HELP ME FOR A SECOND ONE. THE ONE OF YOU SHOW ME WHERE THE BEAUTIFUL 10 FT TRAIL. GOES FROM PARK PLACE OVER THE PROSPER HILLS IT ON THERE. I'M GLAD YOU SAID SO ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF PARK PLACE ON THE SOUTH, WHICH WOULD THOSE PLANS ALREADY IMPROVED. IT'S KIND OF ON THERE, BUT WE JUST BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE CASE TONIGHT. BUT THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR PARK PLACE THAT HOPEFULLY IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, THEY'LL START UTILITIES. THEY ALREADY HAVE THE TRAIL AND THEIR LANDSCAPE PLANS AND SCREENING AND EVERYTHING ARE ALREADY APPROVED BY JUST NOT ON THIS DIAGRAM. AND SO WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST HOOKING ONTO THAT AND CONTINUE IT ALL THE WAY OVER TO TEAL AND ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OUR SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. UM AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WANTED TO HAVE A TRAIL THAT TODD WENT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S TIME FOR A MOTION MIRROR. MOVE THAT WE TABLED. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM MARCUS RAY ALL IN FAVOR. SORRY WE NEED TO HAVE A DATE FOR THAT.
WE NOTICED IT, OKAY. UM, TABLE THAT TOO. IS THAT TO THE, UH TO THE 11TH COMING IN THE 11TH. OR
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THE YES, BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION AND WE'RE STILL IN THE DISCUSSION FACE HERE, WE'VE GOT EMOTIONAL SECOND. THE REALITY IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMES FORWARD WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FROM EACH ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ALL THE WAY THROUGH GETS CAPTURED. AND IS IN YOUR SUBMISSION THIS SUBMISSION SO STAFF IS THE 11TH QUICK.QUICK AND TOO QUICK OR IS IT THAT THE 28TH OF JULY? TO ME. 20 25TH. THANK YOU, ROBERT THIS SECOND P. THAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING. THE SECOND MEETING, WHICH IS 25TH SO I TWEETED.
OKAY, SO YOU WANT TO MODIFY THAT? YES I DID, WHICH FOREIGN COUNTRY IN. YOU CAN. ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE, UH, YOU'RE MODIFYING HIS ORIGINAL MOTION TO TABLE? YES I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER 17 TO THE COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 25TH OF JULY. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM SECOND BY THE DEPUTY ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER. 18 IS CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERING
[18. Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon a request for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a new Wireless Communications and Support Structure, on .1± acre, located on the south side of Prosper Trail, west of Preston Country Lane. (ZONE-22- 0001) ]
ACT UPON A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A NEW WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS AND SUPPORT STRUCTURE ON 0.1 ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PROSPER TRAIL, WEST OF PRESTON COUNTRY LANE, DAVID SOTO. MM HMM . AS MENTIONED. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW 105 WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS SUPPORT STRUCTURE. UM THIS IS THE AREA THAT, UM IT'S PROPOSED AND THE ACTUALLY COME BACK TO THIS MAP, BUT THE THIS IS A GOOD NETWORK HERE. UM SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUESTS SHOWS FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION AND TENNIS THAT WOULD BE PLACED ON THE STRUCTURE. UM THERE IS AN ASSOCIATED 50 BY 50 LEASE AREA. AND THEN IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING EVERGREENS AROUND THE MAINSTREAM WALL TO SOFTEN THE APPEARANCE OF THE MAINSTREAM. ALL ARE ON ALL FOUR SIDES. UM IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THE ATTENDANCE ARE WOULD BE SCREENED. UM, IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE'VE HAD SORT OF A DISCUSSION ON INTERNET AND I BELIEVE THEY TALKED ABOUT SEVEN POTENTIAL WIRELESS TOWERS COMING TO THE TOWN. WE'VE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WE APPROVED THEIR TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED A SCP FOR THE FIRST TOWER. UM AND SO THIS IS THE SECOND ONE. I THINK THE FIRST TOWER HAD THE LOGO ON THERE. AND SO THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO SORT OF HAVE THE COMPATIBILITY WITH WHISPERING FARMS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATED TO THAT AREA. AND SO, UM, THAT IS A REQUEST FOR THE SPECIFIC EAST PERMIT. UM, AS ALWAYS, WE DO. LOOK AT THE MAP THAT WAS GENERATED IN 2021. AND THIS AREA OF MAP WAS OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYONE, UM, TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION TOWERS. UM AND JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THIS AREA IS NOT WITHIN, UM, ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE HAD FOR OPPORTUNITIES. HOWEVER, UM. WE AS IT IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUESTS, AND THESE ARE JUST SOME VISUALS AS WELL. PART OF YOUR PACKET. WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER OF OPPOSITION, UM, THAT WAS INCLUDED, AND THEY JUST HAD SOME CONCERNS OF THE PROXIMITY OF THE WIRELESS POWER. UM, AT THE JUNE. 6 2023 MEETING THE PLANNING. ZONING DID VOTE AND APPROVAL OF FOUR AND OH, AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE SONY REQUESTS. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT. SO PRIOR TO OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE AFRICAN DID HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. HMM. THANK YOU, DAVID. WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BILL BOWMAN RESULTED 75, A LIGHT TWISTER WHEEL AND FORT WORTH, TEXAS. AH, I JUST WANTED TO BE HERE ACTUALLY OFFER ANY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU THAT YOU CAN ADVANCE THIS. EXACTLY OKAY, THERE'S OUR LOCATION. YOU CAN SEE IT ON YOUR ON YOUR DISPLAY THERE. AH WE'VE GOT SOME VIEWS. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME. IT'S A LONG NIGHT. UM THESE ARE WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THE FOUR AND AFTER THERE'S A VIEW[02:50:05]
ONE BEFORE AND THEN AFTER SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S A MAYBE I SHOULDN'T SHOW THESE. YEAH IT IS AN EQUESTRIAN SIDE. I BELIEVE THERE IT IS. SET BACK A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON THAT ROAD. UH, AND THEN HERE'S THE VIEW LOOKING AH! THIRD VIEW. UH ONE. THIS IS THE MAIN POINT I WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS, UH, THIS IS THE VERIZON COVERAGE MAP RIGHT NOW THE RED OR THAT THAT THAT SALMON COLOR.IS WHAT WE CALL IN BUILDING COVERAGE. THE YELLOW WOULD BE UH , IN VEHICLE COVERAGE, AND THEN THE GREEN WOULD BE STANDING OUTSIDE. UH, COVERAGE. THE AIM IS TO FILL IT IN AND YOU CAN SEE THE BEFORE AND AFTER HER, I'LL GO BACK. UH, THERE'S WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHISPERING FARMS HERE, THERE'S AND THEN THERE'S AFTER SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF IN BUILDING COVERAGE HERE. WHOM WE HAD THIS SITE. MOST OF THESE SITES NOWADAYS ARE BASED ON DEMAND FOR DATA AND THE IPAD TYPE USE AND NOT SO MUCH VOICE COMMUNICATION ANYMORE. LOT OF PEOPLE MYSELF INCLUDED ARE GOING TO THIS IS HOW I GET MY HOME INTERNET NOW IT'S THROUGH THE CELL TOWER. NOW WE DROPPED THE FIBER AND IN EXCHANGE FURTHER CELL TOWERS, ACTUALLY BETTER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. IT'S VERIZON IS THE INITIAL CARRIER THAT WANTS TO GO IN HERE. WE ALSO HAVE AN APPLICATION FROM T MOBILE TO GO HERE, SO THERE'S TWO CARRIERS GOING IN FROM THE FROM THE GET GO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HOW MANY CARRIERS WILL COULDN'T HANDLE FOUR ULTIMATELY. ON THE SITE SELECTION AROUND HERE, WHETHER ANY OTHER SITES THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDERING THERE. WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL SITES, AND THEY ALL DROPPED OUT ONE BY ONE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. UM, THESE MIGHT ADD THESE TOWERS ARE NOT CHEAP. THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD. WE WOULD ALWAYS PREFER VERTICAL STRUCTURE THAT'S EXISTING. LIKE A BALL FIELD LIGHT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UH THOSE PARTICULAR SITES THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT THERE, ACCORDING TO UH, WHAT THE R F NEEDS WERE YEAH. YES. THERE'S ONE THERE WAS A RADIUS MAP. DAVID WAS ON YOU KNOW PACKAGE SHOW YOU CIRCLES THEM BACK. AND MAYBE. OKAY? SO. WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. IS THAT WHETHER THE FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THIS SITTING ON PROSPER TRAIL, BUT SEGMENT BALL MIGHT TAKE WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT SOMETHING FURTHER WEST. AND MAYBE EVEN ACROSS THE STREET OVER THE GOLF COURSE. THE COUNTRY CLUB WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER LOCATION FOR THIS. AND THAT LAND ISN'T SF ISN'T MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL ON THE ON THE COP PLAN? THIS. SCIENCE SUNDAY WILL BECOME MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL DECIDE NEXT DOOR TO IT ALREADY ISRAEL IMMEDIATELY. JASON IS RESIDENTIAL. THE GUY WANTS TO CLAIMS HE WANTS TO SUBDIVIDE HIS LOT. AND THEN REST OF THE LAND NEAR THERE WILL BECOME RESIDENTIAL EAST OF THIS JUST EAST OF VIEW OF THE QUESTION SEVEN. SO MY TAKE IS THAT THERE MIGHT BE A BETTER LOCATION IMMEDIATELY. SENATE E. YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR HIM. DO YOU LIKE TO ASK FOR DATA? THIS WASN'T IT WASN'T HERE. I'M SORRY. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR DAVID? MY QUESTION FOR DAVID WAS PULL UP THAT MAP WITH THE MAP UP. I WANTED TO ISSUE THAT COMMENT. MAYBE I GUESS I SHOULD WAIT THE ISSUE COMMENTS. 9 10. OKAY WELL, THAT WAS THAT WAS MY THOUGHT WAS THAT THIS IS NOT THE BEST LOCATION. OKAY? HMM DO ANY QUESTIONS TO TALK? YOU WANT ME TO CANNOT TALK WITH QUESTIONS? I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE WE ARE NOW. WE'RE STILL ALRIGHT. BELIEVE WE'RE STILL WHERE THE APPLICANT IS MAKING A PRESENTATION. SO IF I WERE TO CLARIFY THAT IS ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS? THANKS FOR DRIVING OVER FROM FORT WORTH AND HANGING OUT FOR US. WE'LL BE DONE SOON.
I DID HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION THAT FOR THE APPLICANT IF WE'RE GIVING UP THE ABSOLUTE WERE CONSIDERED ANY OTHER LOCATIONS GOT HERE. THANK YOU. ACROSS OVER ON OVER THE GOLF COURSE. HAVE
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YOU VISITED WITH THEM ABOUT THEIR SITE ABOUT THEIR LAND? I BELIEVE WE TALKED TO THE GOLF COURSE AND THAT THOSE DETAILS COULD NOT BE WORKED OUT THAT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AND SOUTH OF THAT CLOSER TO FIRST STREET. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT. I DO KNOW THIS THAT AS THIS AREA GROWS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE INFILL SITES IN ADDRESSING THIS PARTICULAR MAP THAT'S UP THERE BEFORE YOU NOW. I CAN SEE A DAY IN THE NEAR FUTURE WHERE VERIZON AND T MOBILE WILL BE CO LOCATING WITHIN THESE BLUE RINGS. UH AS THE DENSITY INCREASES, THERE'S VERY LITTLE DOUBT OF THAT. I DO KNOW, I WILL SAY. TO YOUR END. THERE WERE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WERE LOOKED AT, AND THEY WERE DISMISSED. ONE OF THE TIME, BOTH CITY PROPERTY AND PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY, AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THIS IS THE ONE WHERE THE TERMS WERE AGREEABLE. THOSE ARE THE PROPERTY OWNER AND TO UH, VERIZON AND TWO ANTHEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT IT'S TIME. UH CENSUS AGENDA ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. SEEING NONE ARE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.COUNCIL I NEED DISCUSSION. I'M GONNA START WITH CHARLES. ISSUE TO ME IF HE'S WORKING IF HE'S TRYING TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND THIS IS THAT WE NEED SHELTER. THAT'S PROBABLY UNAFFORDABLE. BUT I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF THIS BEING MADE. I. SIGNAGE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I JUST DON'T LIKE THE SIGNAGE ON IT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T MIND. I GUESS I'D LOVE IT TO SAY PROSPER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WHISPERING FORMS IS THE NAME OF THE QUESTION CENTER THERE. AND ADAM STONE. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT FEELS GOOD TO ME ABOUT MAKING A BILLBOARD OPPORTUNITY THERE. YEAH. OKAY? JEFF. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINTS WE HEAR IS THAT THEY HAVE HORRIBLE CELL SERVICE. UM CALLS GET DROPPED INTERNET SO UM I. I LIKE THE IDEA OF WATER TOWER OVER JUST A TOWER WAS A BUNCH OF WHATEVER THOSE THINGS CALLED NODES I DON'T KNOW ON SO , UM, NO, I I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. I DON'T I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE GREATEST IDEA, BUT IT FITS THE NEED. YEAH SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR DRIVING OVER IN PRESENTING TONIGHT FOR ME. I'VE LET'S GET THE ISSUE WITH THE PUBLICATION. AND THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED . UM, THAT'S A HIGHLY VISIBLE PERIOD PROSPER, IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED IN COMING YEARS FOR SURE. YEAH AND, UH, I PASSED BY THAT AREA QUITE FREQUENTLY. I JUST I CAN'T GET BEHIND THAT STRUCTURE IN THAT LOCATION, AND SO UM WELL, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.
WE NEED CELL COVERAGE AND WE BE CONNECTIVITY. UM THERE ARE DIFFERENT MODES. BEING ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN PLACE. UM I JUST THINK IT'S TOO LARGE OF A STRUCTURE FOR THAT LOCATION. MONOPOLY FURTHER BACK, MAYBE A MILE OR SO. OKAY, BUT IT'S JUST FOR ME. IT'S AN HONOR.
THANK YOU. FROM BARTON. YEAH I DON'T LOVE THE FACT THAT IT'S PUSHED SO FAR UPON PROSPER TRAIL, AND WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU LOOKED AT CITY PROPERTY AS WELL . AND THE TERMS WERE NOT AGREEABLE. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? BECAUSE WE DO OWN PROPERTY. ON PROSPER TRAILS TO THE EAST TO THE EAST, JUST DOWN THE STREET, SO I WASN'T PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS, SO PROBABLY THE BEST DEFENDANT SPECULATE ON EXACTLY THAT, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO MAYBE REVISIT THAT, UM, BECAUSE I DO I A GROUP. WITH COUNCILMAN RAY. I DO NOT LIKE THE LOCATION OF THIS IT'S JUST TOO FAR UP ON THE ROAD. IF YOU COULD PUT IT, MAYBE BACK FURTHER ON THE PROPERTY, BUT EVEN THEN IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFICULTY FOR PEOPLE DEVELOPING IT LATER. OKAY. SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, BUT I THINK IT'S KIND OF AN KIND OF AN INVASIVE SITE. AND I AGREE. WE NEED IT. I'M NOT I'M NOT ARGUING THAT I JUST HAD KNOWING THAT WE OWN PROPERTY ON THE SAME ROAD JUST TO THE EAST.
I THINK MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT FROM AN R F PERSPECTIVE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP IT IS FURTHER DOWN. YES THERE THAT THIS IS THE WRONG WAY. WHAT IS IT? YEAH, IT'S PARKS. AT THE PARK STORAGE. THIS PARTICULAR MAP. I WAS JUST SHOWING YOU THE, UH YOU CAN SEE
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THE WHERE THE NEED IS AND HOW WHISPERING FARMS JUST IT HITS THE NEED RIGHT THERE ALMOST PERFECTLY. IN TERMS OF FILLING IN FOR IN BUILDING COVERAGE. I THINK THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON IT WAS SELECTED. WAS R F WAS LOOKING AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. THESE THINGS GET PRETTY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SCIENCE TO MAKE IT ALL BALANCE IF IT WAS MOVED ON THE SAME PROPERTY AWAY FROM PROSPER TRAIL. I THINK DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU JUST GET OUT OF RANGE? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. I THINK IT COULD BE MOVED. YOU KNOW, A FEW 100 FT WITHOUT WITHOUT AN ISSUE. WE KIND OF HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WITH EVERYTHING. IF WE DO THAT, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE WHERE ON THE PROPERTY OF BEING FIT. WHO'S NEXT? BY THE WAY, WE CAN PAINT IT. UH WE CAN PAINT ANY COLOR YOU WANT. THE BROWN IS THE BROWN IS, UH, RIGHT? RIGHT? WE WERE HOPING THAT IT WOULD KIND OF FIT IN WITH THE AMBIANCE OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE A WATER TANK KIND OF A KIND OF AN EQUESTRIAN USE WATER TANK. KIND OF THE OLD SCHOOL LOOK. OKAY CORRECT. GO QUICK HERE. UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR TRAVELING ALL THE WAY OVER FORT WORTH AND PATIENTLY WAITING THROUGH A LONG MEETING. UM YEAH , I HEAR FROM CITIZENS ALL THE TIME ABOUT STRUGGLES WITH WITH THEIR WIRELESS COVERAGE AND ALL THAT. I THINK THERE'S A CHALLENGE HERE BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE USE OF THIS AREA. YOU KNOW THIS? I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT. IT KIND OF LOOKS A LITTLE LIKE A DEER FEEDER. UM YOU KNOW, AND THEN SCOTT, THE RIDING ON THE SIDE OF IT, AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO LOOK AGAIN. FOR MAYBE A BETTER SITE IS JUST IT'S A LOT FOR THIS AREA, AND I SAY THAT FULLY WELL, KNOWING. THAT WE NEED THIS THIS KIND OF SERVICE, BUT I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THIS DOES FOR THAT AREA. IN THE FUTURE. AND SO I'M MAY I ASK YOU TO FLY? NOT A FLAGPOLE WOULD WOULD, UH, STICK.UH, WHAT THIS IS THE REASON THEY'RE SO FAT IS BECAUSE ALL THE ANTENNA EQUIPMENT THAT GETS PUT IN THESE CANISTERS IS GETTING PRETTY BIG. NOWADAYS WE USED TO DO FLAGPOLES IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, BUT OUR F HAS GOTTEN SOMEBODY'S PANELS GET 36 AND 48 INCHES WIDE. SO IT GETS KIND OF THE POLLS GET FAT. SO BUT I KNOW WHEN SELENA LAST WEEK WE HAD A SITUATION LIKE THIS, WHERE THEY'VE APPROVED AT PNC. JUST WHAT WOULD BE LIKE AFFORDING INCH CANISTER THAT GOES UP TO MULTIPLE ITSELF. IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A FLAGPOLE WITHOUT A FLAG. WOULD YOU ALL BE? BETTER WITH THAT. THAT WOULD . WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS IT IS IT THE SCALE OF THE WATER TANK IS TOO MUCH. WOULD IT BE BETTER SETBACK LOCATION? LOCATION. AND FOR ME. IF WE TOOK THIS WATER TANK AND MOVED IT BACK, SAY, 100 YARDS. WOULD THAT BE? WOULD THAT MAKE IT DIFFERENT? HOW TALL DO YOU LIKE? PRETTY. I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS. THESE THINGS ARE ALL DIFFERENT AT EACH SITE. SO I DON'T I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE, BUT I WANT TO MOVE THIS ON IN THIS WAY. AND SO WE DO HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE US. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD FIVE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THREE MEMBERS OF THE BROADBAND COMMITTEE WHO COMMITTED TO INCREASING BROADBAND COVERAGE OF ALL SORTS IN OUR TOWN. WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH IT. THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S THAT SHOULD BE THE INDICATOR SO CORRUPTION. YES I'VE GOT A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN OR I GO AHEAD. MAKE A MOTION TO HOLD ON A SECOND. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. I CAN'T HEAR YOU YET. HOLD ON. COUNCILMAN. OKAY WE'RE MOTION COMING TO MAKE A MOTION TO THE EITHER REQUEST FOR A SPECIMEN SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR NEW WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS AND SUPPORT STRUCTURE. 0.1 ACRE, LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PROSPER TRAIL BLESSED OF PRESIDENT COUNTY LANE. I'LL SECOND THAT ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY MARCUS RAY SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ANDRES ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. OKAY? SO I'VE GOT SIX IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. AND
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ONE IN OPPOSITION TO THE MOTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT MOTION DOES PASS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YES. WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU. WHAT. YEAH THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO TAKE A FIVE M DEALT WITH THAT, MICHELLE, LET'S LET'S GO BACK. EXCUSE ME. LET'S GO BACK INTO SESSION AT 99 30.WE GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER, PLEASE. THANK YOU, UH, AT THIS TIME AGENDA NUMBER 18 19 WILL BE
[19. Consider and act upon an ordinance establishing a Homestead Tax Exemption.]
THE CONSIDERATE ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING HOMESTEAD HOMESTEAD TAX EXEMPTION. THANK YOU. CHRIS THANK YOU, MAYOR AND PROSPER TOWN COUNCIL. FIRST I WANTED TO START OFF WITH BASICALLY WHAT THE EXEMPTION ELIGIBILITY IS SO THIS APPLIES TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT OWNED AND OCCUPIED, UH A PLACE RESIDENTS AS THEIR PRINCIPAL PLACE PRESIDENTS AND THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. AND SO I'VE INCLUDED ON HERE, UH , THE COLIN CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT FOR COLLIN COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THEY DIDN'T CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. AND FOR DIDN'T RESIDENTS IF THEY WERE WANTED TO INQUIRE ABOUT THEIR STATUS OF THEIR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE TO DO THEM. SO THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS A LOCAL OPTIONAL EXEMPTION IF THERE WILL HAVE COUNCIL THE STATE DOES HAVE SOME PARAMETERS ON THAT, SO THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 20% AND A MINIMUM OF $5000. OUR CURRENT EXEMPTION LEVEL IS 12.5% WITH $5000 MINIMUM. UH FEW OPTIONS WERE PRESENTED BY STAFF TO THE FINANCE SUB COMMITTEE, AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDED AN INCREASE TO 15% FOR THIS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS AN IMPACT TO THE TOWN. AH AND TOTALLY WOULD BE ABOUT $770,000. AND I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL ON HOW I SAY THIS NEXT PART. UM, SO THE $87.90 IS AN OFFSET AH, TO WHAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE AN INCREASE TO THE RESIDENTS. UM AND THIS IF.PASSED BY THE COUNCIL WOULD GO INTO EFFECT FOR THE PROPERTY TAXES DO THAT ARE THAT ARE DUE IN 2024. AS LONG AS WE GET IT SUBMITTED TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT BY JULY, 1ST, WHICH THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO DO THAT. JUST TO LOOK AT THE HISTORY. UH THE FIRST EXEMPTION AT 7.5% WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 2017 . IT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY INCREASED IN 2018 TO 10% THEN WE FAST FORWARD ALL THE WAY TO 2023 IN WHICH IT WAS INCREASED TO 12.5% AND WHAT'S BEFORE YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT IS AN INCREASE TO 15. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE CHRIS. I HAVE A HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION ON YOUR OTHER POINT. SO IF AND IF I REMEMBER THIS, RIGHT I'M JUST TRYING TO READ IT BACK FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION AS WELL. BUT IF WE PASS THIS, IT'S ACTUALLY ALMOST LIKE. DOUBLE THE IMPACT OF US CHANGI UNG THE RATE LATERN THE YEAR. IS THAT RIGHT? SO THEY'RE GETTING THE DISCOUNT. WE'RE GETTING THE DISCOUNT FOR THE CITIZENS ON THE CURRENT YEAR TAXES. AS WELL AS. MY EXPLAINING THAT CORRECTLY. IT'S LATE. MAYBE I'M NOT SAYING IT, RIGHT? YEAH, LIKE SO. I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET THEIR BILL. IF WE CHANGE THE RATE LATER IN THE YEAR, I HOPE WE DO. BUT IF WE DO THAT, IT'S GONNA IT TAKES EFFECT THE WHOLE NEXT CYCLE HAS OPPOSED TO THIS, WHICH IS BASICALLY IN TIME FOR IT TO BE ASSESSED THIS YEAR FOR THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT BECOME DUE AT THE BEGINNING OF 2024. YES, OKAY. THAT'S MY ONLY POINT. OTHER QUESTIONS. CHARLES DO YOU WANT TO QUESTION OR DISCUSSION OR OKAY. WOULD YOU HAVE A MOTION? I WANT TROUBLE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEMBER. WAS FINANCE COMMITTEE MEMBER OF WE ALREADY MADE A DECISION ON THAT , AND I ALWAYS SUPPORT WHATEVER ANY OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S DO. SO WOULD YOU HAVE EMOTION MOVED. APPROVAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION COUNT COTTON 19. I BELIEVE,
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SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HODGES ALL IN FAVOR. PROMOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR COTTON. AH! AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20 WILL BE TABLED INTO OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING. WE ARE[20. Consider all matters incident and related to the issuance and sale of "Town of Prosper, Texas, General Obligation Refunding and Improvement Bonds, Series 2023", including the adoption of an ordinance authorizing the issuance of such bonds and establishing procedures and delegating authority for the sale and delivery of such bonds.]
[21. Consider and act upon a resolution of the Town Council of the Town of Prosper, Texas, declaring the public necessity to acquire certain properties for right-of-way, temporary construction easements, drainage easements, and water easement for the construction of the Legacy (Prairie – Fishtrap) – 4 lanes project; determining the public use and necessity for such acquisition; authorizing the acquisition of property rights Page 3 Page 4 of 4 necessary for said Project; appointing an appraiser and negotiator as necessary; authorizing the Town Manager to establish just compensation for the property rights to be acquired; authorizing the Town Manager to take all steps necessary to acquire the needed property rights in compliance with all applicable laws and resolutions; and authorizing the Town Attorney to institute condemnation proceedings to acquire the property if purchase negotiations are not successful.]
ZIPPING ALONG NOW. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21 IS CONSIDERED ACT UPON A RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL OF THE TOWN AND PROSPER TEXAS, DECLARING THE PUBLIC NECESSITY TO ACQUIRE CERTAIN PROPERTIES FOR RIGHT OF AWAY TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS, DRAINAGE EASEMENTS AND WATER ISN'T FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LEGACY. PRAYER TO FISH TRAP FOR LANE PROJECT DETERMINING THE PUBLIC USE AND ASSESS ITTY FOR SUCH ACQUISITION. AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY RIGHTS NECESSARY FOR SAID PROJECT. APPOINTING AN APPRAISER AND NEGOTIATOR AS NECESSARY.AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO ESTABLISH JUST COMPENSATION FOR THE PROPERTY RIGHTS TO BE ACQUIRED. AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO TAKE ALL STEPS NECESSARY TO ACQUIRE THE NEEDED PROPERTY RIGHTS AND COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE LAWS AND RESOLUTIONS. AND AUTHORIZING THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO INSTITUTE CONDEMNATION. PROCEEDINGS TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY OF PURCHASE NEGOTIATIONS ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL, MR HYLAND WEB THIS EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL AGAIN. UM. IT'S AN INTERESTING TIME I'LL DO THE SHORT VERSION OF THE IMMINENT DOMAIN PRESENTATION. I THINK YOU'RE ALL PRETTY WELL VERSED ON THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH ON OUR PROJECTS AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS TODAY IS ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT, TOO. ALLOW US TO PROCEED THROUGH THE DOMAIN IF FOR ANY REASON, THE PROBABLY ACQUISITION PROCESS NEGOTIATIONS FAIL WITH THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE LISTED HERE. ON THE MAP FOR THE LEGACY PROJECT. WITH ADAMS WILL REMIND YOU THAT WITH THIS ITEM, IT DOES REQUIRE THAT YOU DO A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THE APPROVAL OF THAT.
I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE HAD. QUESTIONS FOR HEALING. CAN I GET A MOTION? YEAH, UM.
YES I MOVED THAT. THE TOWN COUNCIL. I'M SORRY I MOVED THE TOWN COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF PROSPER, TEXAS APPROVED. ATTACH RESOLUTION DECLARING THE NECESSITY TO ACQUIRE CERTAIN PROPERTIES RIGHT AWAY. TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION NEEDS MYTHS, DRAINAGE EASEMENTS AND WATER EASEMENT FLANK CONSTRUCTION OF LEGACY PRAIRIE TO FISH TRAP FOUR LANE PROJECT. WITH SUCH PROPERTIES BEING MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION, DETERMINING THE PUBLIC USE AND NECESSITY FOR SUCH ACQUISITION AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY RIGHTS NECESSARY FOR SAID PROJECT APPOINTING AN APPRAISER AND NEGOTIATOR AS NECESSARY AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO ESTABLISH JUST COMPENSATION FOR THE PROPERTY RIGHTS TO BE ACQUIRED. OTHER RISING THE TIME MANAGER TO TAKE ALL STEPS NECESSARY TO ACQUIRE THE NEEDED PROPERTY RIGHTS AND COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE APPLICABLE LAWS AND RESOLUTIONS AND AUTHORIZING THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO INSTITUTE CONDUCT CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY IF PURCHASE NEGOTIATIONS ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL, AND I READ THE PLEASE NOTE. I DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. OKAY WE HAVE EMOTION FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM. SECOND. WE'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT SLOW SECOND BY CHARLES COTTON ALL IN FAVOR. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. WELL WE WILL START WITH CHARLES FOR IN FAVOR. IN FAVOR. IN FAVOR. YES YES, IN FAVOR. ALSO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER. 22 IS DISCUSSING CONSIDERED TOWN COUNCIL
[22. Discuss and consider Town Council Subcommittee reports.]
SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS. I WILL VENTURE TO SAY THAT YOU'VE SEEN MOST OF THE FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS ALONG THE WAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING BRIEF OUT OF THE TML? LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE PROBABLY NEED TO DO THAT. THE NEXT NEXT MEETING, AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA ROB IN HIS SCHEDULING EIGHT LEGISLATIVE UPDATES WILL HANDLE IT THEN. C I P COMMITTEE. OR C PAC, WHICH CPAC MET LAST NIGHT, AND WE SHOULD HAVE A DRAFT. WE MADE A FEW CHANGES THE CONSULT. WE WORKED WITH THE CONSULTANT MAKE A FEW CHANGES, FUTURE LAND USE, PLANNING AND THE COMPLAINT LANGUAGE. WE SHOULD HAVE A DRAFT TO P AND Z THEIR FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST. AND ASSUMING IT DEPENDING ON HOW THAT GOES. WE SHOULD SEE IT. THE LAST MEETING IN AUGUST OR THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 20 SORRY. IT'S ACTUALLY THE POSSIBLY DIRECT TOWN STAFF TO SCHEDULE TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE MEETING.DOES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE SOMETHING THEY LIKE TO HAVE ON THE FUTURE MEETING? NOT TONIGHT.
OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE TOWN
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COUNCIL RECESS INTO CLOSED SESSION IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 551.001 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT TO DELIBERATE REGARDING SECTION 551.087 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CENTERS AND ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED[03:15:05]
THERE TO SECTION 551.072 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL ESTATE. REAL PROPERTY FROM MUNICIPAL PURPOSES AND ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED THERE TO SECTION 551.074 TO DISCUSS CONSIDERED PERSONAL MATTERS AND ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED THERE TO OUR TIME NOW IS 9 40. TO GAVELS BACK IN. 12, OKAY? THERE WE GO.[Reconvene in Regular Session and take any action necessary as a result of the Closed Session.]
IT IS 10 12. WE ARE NOW BACK IN REGULAR SESSION AND, UH, ARE THERE ANY ACTIONS AS A RESULT OF THE CLOSED SESSION? YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE AN ACTION HERE. UM WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LIVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I MOVED TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A SECOND AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR BECAUSE. THERE'S NO TROUBLE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF PROSPER TEXAS AND PROSPER RESIDENCES. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM, CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. OH, VERY WELL SECOND BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ALL IN FAVOR. HERE WE GO. MOTION PASSES SEVEN AND NOTHING. CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM FROM YOU WANT A SECOND AND THEN JET ALL IN FAVOR ? THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY . THANK YOU. ONCE AGAIN, EVERYONE, BOB. HAVE A GREAT VACATION