May 16, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission

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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE MAY 16TH 2023 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER AT SIX PM ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING. ADDRESSING COMMISSION.

THOSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION MUST COMPLETE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. REQUEST FORM LOCATED ON THE TOWN WEBSITE OR IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THIS. IF YOU'RE ATTENDING IN PERSON, PLEASE SUBMIT THIS FORM TO THE BOARD CHERRY STAFF MEMBER PRIOR TO THE MEETING. WHEN CALLED UPON. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. NUMBER TWO THIS EVENING. WE HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IF YOU PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE. AGENTS SUPER FIRE OF THE STATES OF AMERICA REPUBLIC, OR WE SHOULD STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD. I DON'T KNOW. THREE THIS EVENING COMMISSIONERS IS OUR CONSENT

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MAYBE. YOU KNOW WHERE I WHERE I LIVED BEFORE I MEETINGS AND LOTS OF TIMES. WHEN I SAW PROJECT GOING UP, I WOULD VISIT THE SITE AND SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON AROUND IT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU DO BEFORE YOU PREPARE FOR A MEETING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ALONG THAT STREET THAT FLOWS NICELY. YOUR VISION DOESN'T STOP AND SAY, WOW, IT HITS YOU IN THE FACE, AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AND THERE'S NOT MUCH LAND. BETWEEN THE DALLAS TOLLWAY AND LEGACY AND PROSPER TRAIL. NOT AT ALL. ANOTHER THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. IS THAT I'M READING ABOUT LOTS OF UM MOST THAI FAMILY GOING IN THAT GET THE CORNER OF THE DALLAS HALLWAY AND PROSPER TRAIL AND IN OTHER AREAS ALONG THERE, AND I CAN REMEMBER. WHEN WE MOVED TO PROSPER, IT SAID IT WAS GOOD. IT WAS A CITY WITH A SMALL TOWN. FEEL THE RIGHT YOU'RE GOING.

THERE'S NOTHING SMALL TOWN ABOUT IT LOOKS OR ACTION. I JUST WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE THOUGHT PUT IN SOME OF THE PROJECTS. SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE GO OUT FROM THEIR HOMES IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD THEY ARE. STOP BY SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND A SURPRISE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MRS NUGENT FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND APPRECIATE YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR COMMENTS THIS EVENING AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CITIZENS THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK AT THIS TIME ON ANYTHING ELSE? YES SIR. RIGHT. SO WE DO WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON ADAM NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE.

COMING UP. I'M GUESSING YOU'RE REFERENCING THOSE ATOMS THIS EVENING, SO THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE PUBLIC HEARING COMING UP FOR THOSE ITEMS. BUT IT'S JUST ON DAVID.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO THE. ALRIGHT MY NAME IS DAVID. MANY IS DAVID HUBERT OF THE 23 17 COMMENTS WAY AND PROSPER. I DO HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION REGARDING THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AND IT WAS JUST TOO IT'S REALLY A QUESTION THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER LIVE. AND IT WAS THE PLAN FOR THE LOCATION AND NUMBER OF HIGH SCHOOLS IN PROSPER. IT SEEMED A LITTLE SURPRISING TO ME THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A HIGH SCHOOL APPARENTLY NUMBER FOUR.

RIGHT AT THESE SOUTH. EAST CORNER OF TEAL AND FISH TRAP OR FIRST STREET. WHEN THERE'S ALREADY A PLAN TO DEVELOP A HIGH SCHOOL. I THINK AHEAD OF THAT ONE JUST NORTH OF PROSPER TRAIL UNTIL PARKWAY THAT'S PROBABLY NO MORE THAN A MILE AND A HALF TO TWO MILES DIRECTLY NORTH OF THAT INTERSECTION. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HIGH SCHOOLS WITHIN LESS THAN TWO MILES OF EACH OTHER IS THAT PART OF THE NORMAL PLAN TO HAVE THEM THAT CLOSE TOGETHER. I HAVE TO DEFER TO TOWN STAFF HAVE ANYTHING I THINK THE ONLY THING WE KNOW ABOUT STUFF. ON THE CONSENT THIS EVENING WAS THE NUMBER FOUR HIGH SCHOOL. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. THAT'S THAT. DAVID IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE AT ALL. HMM OKAY. VERY GOOD. OKAY SO I WAS. IT WAS REALLY JUST A QUESTION. WOULD THERE BE

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[4. Conduct a Public Hearing, and consider and act upon a request to amend the Future Land Use Plan from Residential Medium Density to Residential High Density, generally located on the southeast corner of Prosper Trail and Teel Parkway. This is a companion case to Z21-0010. (CA22-0001).]

WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE CORNER OF THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HELL PARKWAY AND PROSPER TRAIL. HERE IS A COMPARISON THAT I PROVIDED BETWEEN MEDIA AND DENSITY AND HIGH DENSITY. AND WHAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS WHITE. UM THAT'S ONLY REQUESTS. UM WHICH IS THE NEXT ITEM IS PROPOSING.

ANY WAS UNDER REQUEST, WHICH YOU DO NOT CONFORM TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. SHALL WE ACCOMPANIED BY A REQUEST TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. THE FAN DOES STATE THAT THE APPLICANT, UM, NEEDS TO PROVIDE CRITERIA ON AND RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. AS WELL AS, UM, WHAT WE HAVE ON HERE. AGAIN LOOKING AT ANY OF THE OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE REQUESTED. HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE SURROUNDING AREA? AND AGAIN.

THIS WAS PART OF THE PACKAGE. HMM SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A COMPARISON CHARGE THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION BETWEEN MEDIUM DENSITY AND HIGHER DENSITY. UM, THIS WAS THE JUST THE CHARACTER TYPE THAT MORE SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL HIGH DENSITY, WHICH SHOULD BE LOCATED IN NEAR THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY HIGHWAY THROUGH 80 TOM CENTER AND OLD TOWN DISTRICT. HMM. I WILL NOW ALSO BE PRESENTING THE ZONING REQUEST SINCE IT'S COMBINED WITH THE, UM UH, FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, SO I'LL KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE ZONING REQUESTS. SO AS MENTIONED, THESE ONLY REQUEST IS UM, SOUTHEAST CORNER OF TEAL AND PROSPEROUS TRAIL. UM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO DO TWO TRACKS OF LAND, WHICH ALL KIND OF GO THROUGH, UM, TRACKED ONE WHICH IS AROUND 62 ACRES, WHICH FOLLOW SF 10 BASED ZONING THAT HAS A MAXIMUM OF 141 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS. TRACK TWO, WHICH IS A RETIREMENT TRACT , WHICH IS ALLOWING AROUND 12 ACRES, WHICH CREATES ITS OWN STANDARDS. UM AND ALLOWED TO RETIREMENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.

UM THE TRACKED ONE IS A PRIVATE SUBDIVISION, A GATED PRIVATE SUBDIVISION. AND UM, THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO ENTER A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR ANY BUILDING MATERIALS. AGAIN THIS WAS SORT OF A COMPARISON. JUST LOOKING AROUND AND STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE COMPATIBILITY REGARDING THE CONFORMANCE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LARGE SIZES. UM WE ARE AWARE THAT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS DO YOU, UM, HAVE SMALLER LOTS. YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, A LOT JUST TO THE NORTH HAS ANYTHING AROUND FROM 8000 SQUARE FOOT? LOTS OF 9000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. UM THE LOT STRESS TO THE WEST AS WELL ALSO RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 6000 TO 9000 AS WELL. HOWEVER ONE SONG RANCH WAS PART OF A MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY THAT PROVIDES AMENITIES AND HAVE ABOUT AROUND 700 LOCKS ABOVE THE MID 12,500 SQUARE FOOT LIVES. SO AGAIN,

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UM WE DID PROVIDE LETTERS OF OPPOSITIONS AS WELL UNTIL YOUR PACKET AND I BELIEVE WE RECEIVED AROUND FIVE OR SIX, UM AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE DID PROVIDE , UM, APPLICANTS ALSO HERE TO PRESENT ANY, UM, PRESENTATION AND AGAIN, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR STAFF. SO REGARDING THE. MULTI FAMILY COMPONENT MHM. WE HAVE A NUMBER. OF UNITS. IS IT ON THIS SLIDE? NO THAT'S NOT. THAT'S OVERALL. HOW MANY UNITS ARE WE LOOKING AT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT? UM I'LL REFER TO THE APPLICANT ON THAT, UM, I'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY. I DON'T THINK WE CALLED OUT. WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER. MM HMM. I DIDN'T THINK WE DID, BUT I'LL REFER TO THE APPLICANT. THERE'S TWO PARTS RIGHT? THIS IS THERE'S THE MULTI FAMILY AREA AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SINGLE FAMILY FAMILY. IT'S PART OF IT AS WELL. RIGHT YES, AND THE ONLY THE ONLY REASON WHY THE AREA NEEDS TO BE REZONED IS SPECIFICALLY FOR BEING THE.

MULTI FAMILY RETIREMENT SPACE. IT WILL EVERYTHING ELSE BE DEVELOPED ACCORDING TO MEDIUM DENSITY STANDARDS. OR ARE THEY LOOKING FOR HIGH DENSITY FOR THE ENTIRE AREA? SO WHEN THEY DEVELOPED THEIR HOMES, THE HOMES WILL ALSO BE LESS THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET. SO ORIGINALLY THEY CAME WITH A ZONING REQUEST. RIGHT SO ITS OWN AG RIGHT NOW, UM THEY'RE COMING IN TO REZONE THE PROPERTY, WHICH WAS TRACKED ONE WHICH FOLLOWED THE SF 10,000. AND THEN TRACK TO WHICH IS MAINLY IN FOR THE RETIREMENT HOUSING. AND SO ESSENTIALLY, STAFF LOOKED AT THAT STAFF LOOKED AT THE REQUEST AND LOOKED AT HOW IT FITS IN THAT. FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND HOW YOU KNOW, AND I THINK I HAD A MAP THAT SHOWED UM. SORT OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MEDIUM DENSITY AND HIGHER DENSITY AND SO WITH MULTI FAMILY THAT THEY ALSO INCLUDED AS PART OF THE ZONE REQUEST, STAFF FELT THAT IT WAS AIDS HIGHER DENSITY, SO WHICH IS WHY THEY CAME WITH A REASONING REQUESTS AS WELL AS A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN TO CHANGE THE AREA FROM MEDIUM TIE SO AS IT STANDS, THE ONLY HIGH DENSITY PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT ONE SPACE WITH THE MULTI FAMILY RETIREMENT, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH WOULD BE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING UNITS SO LIKE AGAIN HIGH DENSITY PER ARQAM PLAN TALKS ABOUT ANYTHING BETWEEN 10,000 SQUARE FOOT AND

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SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS THE TWO TRACKS OF LAND WITH NO STANDARDS , SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SEPARATE, UM SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AND THEN A RETIREMENT HOUSING CONTRACT. YOU TWO WOULD HAVE A RETIREMENT ZONING AT THAT POINT, SO IT WOULD NOT OPEN IT UP TO LET'S CALL IT MULTIFAMILY. CORRECT YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT THERE AND THEY'RE NOT. THEY CREATED A SPECIFIC STANDARD FOR RETIREMENT HOUSING, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD. THAT IF LET'S SAY IF A MULTI FAMILY YOU KNOW THEY WANT TO GET RID OF YOU KNOW THE AGE RESTRICTED OR ANY OF THOSE, UM, AMENITIES THAT ARE WITHIN THAT RETIREMENT HOUSING DEFINITION AND BE A TRUE MULTI FAMILY, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO REZONE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED FOR THAT TRACKED YOU. CORRECT ITEM FIVE. WE WOULD BE APPROVING TRACKED. ONE IS SF 10 AND TRACK TWO IS RETIREMENT TRACK. YEAH, SO AGAIN, YEAH. DON'T ITEM FIVE VISITS. ONLY REQUEST ITEM FLOOR IS THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, BUT WE'RE COMBINING THEM AND SORT OF PROVIDING INFORMATION, BUT THEY'RE SORT OF STILL SEPARATE. IN HIS RETIREMENT FALL UNDER HIGH DENSITY RETIREMENTS OF FORM OF MULTI FAMILY, WHICH IS THEN A FORM OF HIGH DENSITY. COMPLAIN.

THANK YOU. REALLY QUICK. THE AREA RIGHT ON ONE OF THE MAPS THAT I SAW AND FORGIVE ME BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FOOT FORWARD QUICKLY. THERE WAS HIGH DENSITY AREA. BUT THAT'S IS THAT IS THAT CONSIDERED, UH PROSPER DO WE HAVE WE DON'T HAVE ANY HIGH DENSITY. AREAS AND PROSPER.

SO YES, SO YOU YOU ARE CORRECT. UM THAT THAT THE STUFF THAT YOU SEE THAT'S IN PURPLE. AND BEIGE, WHICH IS KNOWN FOR THE TOLLWAY AND THE HIGHWAY THROUGH 80 THAT TYPICALLY HAS SOME DEFINITION OF , UM HIGH DENSITY. THERE MAY NOT BE LOOKING LIKE IT'S A BROWN. UH WHICH IS A HIGH DENSITY, BUT IT DOES INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT HIGH DENSITY, MULTI FAMILY WITHIN THAT AREA, AND THAT'S WHY I PROVIDED, UM IN YOUR PACKET CHARACTER TYPES FOR EACH LAND USE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE

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FRIDAY EITHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR FOR DAVID BEFORE WE ASKED THE APPLICANT STEP FORWARD. ALRIGHT AT THIS TIME, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS IN ATTENDANCE SO STEP FORWARD AND THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MAKE SURE THE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. YEAH, YOU CAN DO THAT. PERFECT. THANK YOU. S DOWN. COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS NATE PARROT WITH PAPER DAWSON ENGINEERS WERE AT 61 OH, FIVE TENNYSON IN PLANO. AND REPRESENTING DFW LAND. MY CLIENT I'M GONNA GO THROUGH PROSPER HILLS REAL QUICK, STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. SO REAL QUICK, JUST PROJECT LOCATION, QUICK RUN THROUGH OF THE PRESENTATION. I WILL TOUCH ON TRACK ONE THE SINGLE FAMILY PEACE AND GO THROUGH SOME EXAMPLE IMAGERY. TALK ABOUT THE REVISIONS HE MADE SINCE WE PRESENTED ON FOR 18 OF THE LAST CONCEPT PLAN. AND THEN WE'LL TOUCH ON THE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. AND THEN WE CAN ROLL INTO TRACK TWO AND THE RETIREMENT HOUSING TRACT AND SOME EXAMPLE IMAGERY IS HOW THAT MIGHT BE EXECUTED AS WELL. SO THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROSPER HILLS TWO TRACKS THAT I MENTIONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AS WELL AS TRACK, TOO. WHICH WILL BE A RETIREMENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AGE RESTRICTED. AND THE IDEA HERE IS TO DELIVER DELIVER HIGH LEVEL RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO FIT INTO THE PROSPER HILL. I'M SORRY. THE BETWEEN THE PARK PLACE AND THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS WITH A LOT SIZE THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY BEING DELIVERED. AND THE RETIREMENT HOUSING TRACT. THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE SENIORS WITH LIFESTYLE CHOICE DO YOU HAVE SIZE DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND SPENDING LESS TIME MANAGING A LARGE ESTATE IN MIND THE LAWN AND PULLING WEEDS. SO LET'S GET INTO IT TRACKED ONE TRACKED ONE HERE . ZONING BOUNDARIES, 61.43 ACRES AS IT GOES OUT TO THE CENTER OF WEST PROSPER TRAIL. SHOWING 135 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS HERE AND ENTITLED TO 141. THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE WE'RE SHOWING IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET. EVERY LOT HERE WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET. TYPICAL LIE IS 80 FT WIDE BY 100 AND 25 FT. DEEP. IT WILL BE GATED, AND IT WILL BE SHARING THE AMENITIES TO THE WEST. WHICH IS THE PARK PLACE AND THAT IS 206 12,500 MINIMUM SQUARE FOOT LOTS FITTING INTO THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ALSO DFW LAND PROJECT. NOW THIS 80 BY 125 FT LIVE, SPENT SOME TIME THE PAST FEW WEEKS, GOING THROUGH WINDSONG RANCH AND FINDING SOME OF THEIR PRODUCTS IN THE SEVENTIES AND 90 FT WIDE THAT I THOUGHT MATCHED CLOSELY TO THE NOT ONLY THE FACADE MATERIALS, AND SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH. BUT SPECIFICALLY THE STREETSCAPE CONDITION HOW WIDE THE ARCHITECTURE IS ON THESE LOTS. AND SO AN 80 FT WIDE LOT OF 64 FT OF ARCHITECTURE WITH EIGHT FT. SO. GET CLOSER TO THIS. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. YEAH. SURE. YES. SO AGAIN EXAMPLE IMAGERY FOR THESE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL LOTS HERE, AND I THINK THESE DO A GOOD JOB OF SHOWCASING THE ARCHITECTURE AS WELL AS THE STREETS GAVE CONDITION HERE. AND WITH THE 64 FT OF ARCHITECTURE, YOU CAN GET TWO UP TWO OR THREE CARGO GARAGE AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT GETS EXECUTED AS A J SWING IN ORDER TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF GARAGES YOU HAVE FACING THE STREET.

THESE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE WITHIN THE ORDINANCE. SO THESE ARE FROM STAR TRAIL AND WHEN SONG RANCH OF WHICH WE HAVE , UM COLBERT, COMPARABLE LOT SIZES TO THE LOTS DELIVERED ON THE LARGER END OF THE SCALE WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY. SO THIS LAYOUT IS SHOWN HERE IN HIGHLIGHTED IN THE AREA THAT HAS RECEIVED MOST OF THE REVISIONS HERE. THIS WAS THE CONCEPT PLAN

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SOME MORE CALL OUTS IN THE AREA SPECIFICALLY TO THE LOT WITS AND THE DEPTHS IN THESE AREAS, JUST CONTINUING WITH THE FACT THAT THERE IS ALL OF THESE AREAS THAT ARE FALLING INTO THIS HIGH DENSITY CATEGORY AND YET AREN'T LABEL THERE ARE IDENTIFIED AS SUCH, AFTER THESE LOTS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED TO WHERE I HAVE THESE POCKETS OF HIGH DENSITY SMALL LOTS AROUND ME. AND THE LOTS THAT I'M PROPOSING ARE BEING CALLED HIGH DENSITY AND THEY ARE AT MOST TIMES TWO OR 3000 SQUARE FEET LARGER UM AND THIS GRAPHIC HELPS KIND OF POINT OUT WHERE THEY FALL ON HERE. WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS SOMETHING. GOT SOME SLIDES MISSING HERE. WE SHOULD HAVE THE TRACK TO RETIREMENT HOUSING AFTER THIS ONE. BUT IT JUST ENDS. AND HERE'S WHERE YOU ARE. OH, TRACK ONE TRACK. TO TRACK WOUNDS. 2020 THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME. NO I SHOULD HAVE ONE. THAT'S HAS THIS ONE ALL GREAT OUT, AND THIS IS THE TRACK, TOO. AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE SHOWING EXAMPLE. IMAGERY ABOUT THOSE CAN BE LIKE DO YOU HAVE? WE BROUGHT ONE JUST IN CASE. YEAH, WE CAN SEE THIS ONE SECOND.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHT SO TRACK TO THE RETIREMENT HOUSING TRACTS ZONING BOUNDARY IS 11.98 ACRES AS IT EXTENDS OUT TO THE CENTER LINE OF WEST PROSPER TRAIL AND TEAL PARKWAY. AFTER THIS ACREAGE IS TAKEN BACK AND DEDICATE THE CITY IT'S ABOUT 10 ACRES OF NET DEVELOPMENT AREA. THIS BEFORE WAS BEING CALLED OUT AS MULTI FAMILY. I WANT TO CORRECT THAT, AS THE ZONING STRATEGY IS COMMERCIAL WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT WOULD ONLY ALLOW FOR THE LAND TO BE USED AS RETIREMENT HOUSING. THE TOWN OF PROSPER REQUIRES ME TO USE THE MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN ORDER TO BUILD THIS PRODUCT, WHICH CONSISTS OF PARKING RATIOS, SEPARATIONS FROM

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WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF PERSONS IN THIS COUNTRY IN THAT AGE RANGE ABOVE 55, A LOT OF WHICH ARE LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE, SPECIFICALLY SPENDING MORE TIME ENJOYING THEIR LIFE AND LESS TIME MANAGING THEIR ESTATES, AS WELL AS POSSIBLY SPENDING TIME. SINCE WE'RE IN TEXAS, THE BEACH OR MOUNTAIN. UH, DEVELOPMENT. UH, MASONRY AND BRICK. WE SO FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY, WE HAVE MASONRY, BRICK AND STUCCO PROPOSED AS BUILDING MATERIALS FOR THE RETIREMENT HOUSING. WE HAVE CUT OUT THE STUCK OUT SO IT WILL ONLY BE MASONRY AND OR BRICK FACADES HERE. AND THIS SHALL NOT BE LICENSED AS A ASSISTED LIVING CENTER OR A SKILLED NURSING HOME. THIS IS NOT A MEMORY CARE FACILITY. THIS IS LOW DENSITY HOUSING FOR A SPECIFIC PRODUCT IN MIND THAT WE THINK WILL CATER FOR THIS AGE GROUP. AND THAT SITE PLAN, AND THOSE IMAGES MIGHT TAKE ON THE FORM OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS A COMBINATION OF ONE AND TWO STORY ARCHITECTURE HERE MAINLY COMPRISED OF BRICK AND THE IMAGE DOWN ON THE BOTTOM IS A MIXTURE OF STONE. NOW WITH THE COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT STYLES OF ARCHITECTURE ON THESE SITES. YOU CAN CREATE DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS AND SOME INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY OR SOME PEOPLE MIGHT PREFER TO LIVE IN A MORE DETACHED SCENARIO LIKE THIS WITH THE TWO CAR GARAGE IN THE BACK. OTHERS MIGHT PREFER A LOWER PRICE POINT WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY AND NOT MIND SHARING ONE OR TWO WALLS IN A ROW HOUSE OR A TOWN HOME CONDITIONS. THIS IS, UH, COMMON DEVELOPMENT STYLE THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE, UM, BECOME SOMEWHAT TRENDY. UM I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE TOWN OF PROFIT STANDARDS FOR MULTI FAMILY CAN BE ANYWHERE UP TO 15 20 UNITS AN ACRE, WHEREAS IN ORDER FOR ME TO CREATE A SITE PLAN WITH THIS PRODUCT ON IT. I CAN REALLY ONLY GET ANYWHERE BETWEEN EIGHT AND 12 YEARS AN ACRE, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY ENCLOSED GARAGES I'M GIVING AND MY BUILDING DRIVEWAYS BEHIND UNITS AND LETTING PEOPLE HAVE EXTRA PARKING SPACES BEHIND THEIR UNITS. THESE KIND OF THINGS AFFECT THE DENSITY VERY HEAVILY, BUT WHAT I'VE SEEN IS IN ORDER TO DELIVER THIS HIGH END PRICE POINT WITHIN THESE COMMUNITIES SOMEWHERE AROUND 8 TO 12 UNITS AN ACRE FEELS ABOUT RIGHT. QUICK QUESTION HERE TO ASK FOUR QUESTIONS. MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS. AID RESTRICTIONS OR 55 OVER IS THAT THE INTENT OF THE ZONING OR WHAT IS THAT AGE RESTRICTION? IT WOULD BE 55. 55 OVER. OKAY IN THESE UNITS ARE FOR SALE ONLY NOT FOR RENT. NO IT IS A COMMON LOT SO WELL. I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER. THEY COULD BE SALE OR HOLD ON. HOLD ON. THEY THEY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AS ONE ZONING LOT TO BE SET UP AS EITHER FOR LEASE. ON A COMMON LOT OR AS A CONDO COMMUNITY ON A ON A COMMON LOT, SO YOU'D HAVE WALLS IN INSURANCE AND YOU WOULD OWN THE ARCHITECTURE. BUT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A FEE SIMPLE PLAY A LOT. THERE WILL BE NO SUBDIVISION ON THIS PROPERTY. WHETHER THEY'RE FOR LEASE OR FOR SALE. IT WILL BE ONE COMMON LOT WITH AN H O. A MANAGING THE OPEN SPACES. WHAT YOU SAY. WHAT'S THAT? YOU WOULD ONLY IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE GROUND UP IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YES. EXCEPT THE ARCHITECTURE SHOULD THAT BE DELIVERED AS A KIND OF COMMUNITY? AND SO BACK TO MY SIMPLE MATH. RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE NUMBER OF THESE UNITS, BUT WE YOU CAN TELL US IT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN EIGHT AND 12 BREAKER 12 AND 11 ACRES THAT GIVES ME A HIGH NUMBER. I TAKE EIGHT AND 11 ACRES OR 10 ACRES TO GO AT 10 ACRES MAKING 28. SO WE'VE GOT EITHER WE GOT BETWEEN 80 AND 120 POTENTIAL UNITS. CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND ON THE PARKING EACH ONE

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IN THIS MARKET, UH, YOU CAN SELL AND CLOSED GARAGE IS VERY WELL SO I WOULD EXPECT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE UNITS WOULD HAVE EITHER ONE OR A TWO CAR ENCLOSED GARAGE AGAIN. THESE ARE SPECIFICS THAT COME DOWN TO PERMITTING TIME OR WHEN YOU HAVE AH BUYER OR A USER WITH A SPECIFIC PRODUCT THAT HE WANTS TO USE, AND YOU KIND OF GO FROM THERE, BUT MOST OF THE TIME YOU'RE SEEING THESE UNITS DELIVERED IN A 1 TO 2 STORY CONDITION 12 TO 1800 SQUARE FEET WITH ENCLOSED GARAGES. SO VERY MUCH FEELS LIKE A SORT OF BB LIVING PRODUCT AND FRISCO OR, UM, SOME SURROUNDING TOWNSHIPS THAT THAT DO SORT OF SOMETHING SIMILAR, UM, INSTILL DEMAND. IF IT'S LEASING, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO THREE OR $4, A SQUARE FOOT. I HAVE MY WORK. QUESTION ON THIS, AND I'M SURE THEY'LL BE SOME OTHERS, BUT NOT REALLY RELATIVE TO ZONING. BUT WHAT KIND OF PRICE POINT ARE WE LOOKING AT A PRODUCT LIKE THIS? IF I'M BUYING THE LEAST IMPROVEMENTS ABOVE THE GROUND ONE. I MEAN, WHAT? WHAT KIND OF IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE LEASING ONE OF THESE, UM ANYWHERE FROM. THREE UP TO AS HIGH AS $4 A SQUARE FOOT. I'M SEEING THESE RENTS GETTING, UM B B. LIVING IS DOING SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES AROUND HERE, AND THAT IS THEIR TARGET PRICE POINT, AND THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN GET IT. BROKE. YEAH. NOW AS FAR AS WHAT THEY WOULD GO FOR SALE. WELL, YOU CAN BACK INTO UM. THE QUESTION. YES, SIR . HERE IN THE EXAMPLE IMAGERY AND KIND OF PART OF WHAT YOU STATED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GO AND THROW IT, HE SAID. BE ONE OR TWO STORY FOR THE RETIREMENT AREA FOR TIME LIVING AREA. YES AND I SAY ONE OR TWO STORY BECAUSE BEFORE THIS AGE GROUP, YOU DO WELL TO HAVE A HANDFUL OF ONE STORY UNITS. SHOULD SOMEONE THAT WAS SOMETHING WAS STAIRS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE FOR THE ACTIVE SENIOR.

THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, UH, ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY OR LEANING TOWARDS THE TWO STORY THAN THE ONE STORY THE ONE STORY WILL BE PROVIDED FOR THOSE WHO WANT IT. BUT THE TWO STORY WOULD BE MORE STANDARD. YES AND WELL SO THAT THE ZONING IS ALLOWING FOR TWO STORIES. OR 40 FT IN HEIGHT. SO HOWEVER, THE USER WOULD DECIDE TO SPLIT UP THE PERCENTAGE BETWEEN ONE AND TWO STORIES. OR THEY COULD ALL BE TWO STORIES. SO BUT IN THE RESPONSE THAT YOU GAVE AND THE RESPONSE THAT THE UM, YOU WERE THE COMPANY GAVE TO THE QUESTIONS ASKED BY STAFF IT SAYS THAT THE RETIREMENT LIVING RETIREMENT LIVING WILL ONLY BE ONE STORY IN THE ARCHITECTURE.

BUILDING MATERIALS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT IS BEING BUILT IN PROSPER HILLS. SO DID SOMETHING CHANGE BETWEEN SO THOSE QUESTIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN A RESPONSE TO, UH, SUBMITTAL.

PREVIOUSLY BACK IN THE 18TH WHEN THIS WAS THERE WAS WE'VE BEEN IN SEVERAL TIMES WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT STRATEGIES. THAT SITE AND AT ONE POINT IN TIME THE STRATEGY WAS AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THAT WOULD HAVE ON SITE SKILLED NURSE AND MEMORY CARE AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT WE HAVE SHIFTED FROM THAT, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RESPONSES TO THESE QUESTIONS WERE NOT UPDATED TO REFLECT THE LATEST STRATEGY FOR THE SITES. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, HAVE YOU HAVE YOU? HAVE YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS AGAIN ? WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT COPY. OR YOU HAVEN'T REALLY ANSWERED THESE QUESTIONS. SINCE THE CHANGE. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE DID NOT GET RESUBMITTED. PROPERTY AND YOU'RE GETTING THE OLD ONES. YES, SO I CAN PROVIDE THOSE OKAY, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. I GUESS MY BIG THING BACK TO BACK TO COMMISSIONER DANIELS POINT. WE HAVE THOUGHT OUT A LOT OF NUMBERS. UM, IN A VERY OPEN ENDED. AND YOU'RE SO WAY I SEE IT. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FOR SOMETHING JUST JUST OPEN ENDED. THAT ONCE WE APPROVE IT.

YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES AS FIT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET NOTHING IN WRITING. SO YOU'RE REQUESTING, UH, TIGHTEN LANGUAGE SO THAT THE RESULT IS LESS OPEN ENDED WITH THAT. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? WELL. ME PERSONALLY, I WOULDN'T APPROVE IT OPEN ENDING SURE. JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO TURN OUT LATER. I UNDERSTAND GOING TO CHANGE AND IF WE CAN WE HAVE NO CONTROL AROUND IT. UM WE GET INTO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, SO OKAY? SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOUR INABILITY TO APPROVE HIS FOCUSED AROUND THE RETIREMENT TRACKED JUST LISTENING TO WHAT? YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT. AND THAT'S ALL YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? BUT YOU EVERYTHING

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I THINK SOME OF THESE THINGS AS WE GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOK AT THIS AS THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE SOME. IF IT GOES TO EMOTION, THERE MAY BE SOME HARD CAPS THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE. YOU KNOW ON SOME OF THESE NUMBER OF UNITS BECAUSE IN THIS PIECE OF IT, AND I REALLY LIKE YOUR PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE YOU GOING BACK. THIS PRESENTATIONS 100 TIMES BETTER THAN THE FIRST ONE WE HAD ON APRIL 18TH. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S WORK ON THIS, AND I'M KNOCKING SOME OF WHAT I'M SAYING. SO THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW YOU NEED Y'ALL NEED TO THINK THROUGH TWO IS WHAT WHAT IS THE MINIMUM THAT CAN MAKE THIS WORK AS FAR AS THE NUMBER BUT LET'S MOVE ON AND CONTINUE THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANKS FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS. PRESENTATION OKAY, WELL, THAT'S PERFECT. THANK YOU. WAIT, WAIT.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS THANKS. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH AGAIN. WE HAVE TWO PIECES HERE WITHIN THIS CONSIDERATION AND 135 OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AT 10,000 ROUGHLY 10,000 PER SQUARE FOOT THERE AND THEN WE'VE GOT THIS SECOND PORTION. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? I JUST HAVE ONE SIMPLE QUESTION IS HAVE YOU CONSIDERED MAKING THE WHOLE PROPERTY SINGLE FAMILY AND LOU OF THE RETIREMENT? BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE HARDER PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? IT DOES.

IT DOES SEEM THAT WAY, AND WE HAVE CONSIDERED IT AND ARE OPEN TO IT. UM YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE TIME FOR A TABLING TO REVISIT WITH HIS STRATEGY. I CAN VISIT WITH MY CLIENT AND SEE IF THAT'S AN OPTION. UM YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN TELL ME THAT YOU WOULD LEAN THAT DIRECTION AND SUPPORT IT.

THEN MAYBE MAYBE HE'D BE OPEN TO IT. APPRECIATE APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK. GOOD QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THIS TIME. LET'S GO AHEAD. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO AT THIS TIME IF ANYONE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE ANYMORE, BUT ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THIS, YOUR COMMENTS WILL PROBABLY BE CONSIDERED FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADJUSTING THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN HERE. IS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO STEP FORWARD AT THIS TIME? HELLO AGAIN. DAVE HUBER, 23 17 COMMENTS WILLIAM PROSPER. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT I BROUGHT UP IN APRIL AT THAT HEARING AND AGAIN . MY COMMENTS ARE PROBABLY IF WE ARE BEING SPECIFIC MORE TOWARDS ITEM FIVE THAN THEY ARE TO ITEM

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I WANTED TO JUST TALK ABOUT THOSE UPDATES. WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE SO FIRST WAS THE ELIMINATION OF THE EXISTING POND. THAT WAS THERE AND THE VARIETY OF WILDLIFE THAT CALL THAT THEIR HOME. OVER THE LAST LEAST FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED THERE. UM WE DID MEET WITH THE APPLICANTS ON SITE. WEEK OR SO AGO AND WE DISCUSSED AND I DO APPRECIATE AND NOTED THE, UH THE CHANGES THAT THEY MADE, ADDING THE COLD A SACK INSTEAD OF THAT ONE STREET TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT AREA. WE DID TALK ABOUT MAINTAINING THE POND AS IS IN THIS EXISTING LOCATION, PROBABLY NEEDING TO CLEAN IT UP OR IMPROVE IT A BIT. AND THE FACT THAT WE COULD RUN THE WATER LINES WERE LYING UNDERNEATH THE POND. APPARENTLY THEY DISCUSS THAT WITH SOME ENGINEERING GROUP . I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE EXISTENCE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. WE'RE NOT BUT THAT WAS THEN SLAPPED DOWN AS NOT A POSSIBILITY. TO HAVE A WATER FEATURE POND OVER THE TOP OF A SEWER LINE. I'M NOT SURE THAT I . THAT, BUT I'M SURE THERE MIGHT BE SOME ENGINEERING RESTRICTIONS IN THAT AREA. UM. SINCE OUR LAST MEETING THAT POND WAS COMPLETELY DRAINED. AH AS A FREE WATER SOURCE. FOR THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S ONGOING IN PARK PLACE. UM SO NOW IT'S I DON'T KNOW IF THEY RELOCATED ANY OF THE WILDLIFE. BUT IT IS NOW PROBABLY MORE OF AN EYESORE MOSQUITO NESTS THAN THAN EVER. BUT I BELIEVE THE INTENTION OF THE DEVELOPERS ARE TO FILL THAT IN WAS OIL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN BUILD UPON. AND WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE TO RECONSTITUTE THAT TALKED WITH DAN HEITZMANN HERE IN THE ENGINEERING GROUP. THAT THAT IT IS POSSIBLE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DRAINED TO RECONSTITUTE THAT. SO I GUESS FROM A ARTESIA REDDEN'S SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF, WE STILL WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE AND IS ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS BROUGHT UP EARLIER . WHAT ARE THE AMENITIES PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN A SINGLE DEVELOPMENT IN ALL OF NORTH DALLAS, NOT TO MENTION PROSPER THAT DIDN'T HAVE SOME SORT OF WATER FEATURE POND. I KNOW. PARK PLACE NEXT DOOR HAS MULTIPLE OF THOSE PLANNED BUT THERE ARE NONE IN ALL OF TRACK ONE THEY DO RESERVE THAT BOTTOM AREA AS A AMENITY. I THINK THERE IS AN INTENT IN THAT ONE SQUARE TO HAVE A SPLASH PAD PLAYGROUND AREA. SO I GUESS OUR REQUEST WOULD BE THAT THEY COME UP WITH A WAY TO ADD A WATER FEATURE POND AS AN AMENITY. IT COULD EVEN BE DOUBLED AS A SURFACE WATER MANAGEMENT FUNCTION AS WELL WHICH MOST NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE. SO THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST THERE. I WILL GO ON TO THE SOUTHERN BORDER THAN WAS THE ITEM TWO. IS TO AT THE TIME WE THOUGHT SINCE IT WAS GOING TO BE A GATED COMMUNITY THAT THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT FOR A WALL OR SOME SORT OF HARD FENCING AROUND THAT SOUTHERN AREA. I SINCE LEARNED AGAIN FROM TALKING TO DAN HIRSCHMAN THAT THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY GAVE COMMUNITIES ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO PROHIBIT VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, NOT FOOT TRAFFIC. SO THEN, IN TALKING WITH NATAN ERIN ON SITE, WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS NO INTENT TO HAVE A WALL ALONG THE WHOLE SOUTHERN BORDER THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A WOULD TRY TO PRESERVE A NATURAL BUFFER. AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT ON THE PLAN FOR THE LANGUAGE THAT WE ABSOLUTELY WANNA HAVE INSERTED INTO THIS BEFORE IT EVER GETS. FINAL APPROVAL. ESPECIALLY TO MAKE THAT A BINDING CONDITION BEFORE PERMITTING. WE WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT LANGUAGE INSERTED IN THIS, SO IT'S IT IS A BINDING COMMITMENT FOR THE DEVELOPER. SO I BELIEVE WHAT WE'VE ALL AGREED TO IS AT LEAST A SOLID TREE LINE BUFFER. THAT PARALLELS THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN. THAT ALSO PARALLELS GREENBELT PARK ON THE NORTHERN EDGE OF ARTEMISIA. THE THIRD ITEM. LAST ITEM I'LL BRING UP IS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE OVERALL 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN ZONE. AND SPECIFICALLY THE AREA OF WEST OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER

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APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK ANYONE ELSE THIS EVENING TO SPEAK. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING OUT A MODEL NUMBER FOUR. YES, MA'AM, YOU MAY STEP STEP FORWARD. HI I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE HIGH DENSITY AGAIN. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS BARBARA NEWTON. I LIVE AT 961 GRASSY SHORT LANE.

UM WHEN WE MOVED HERE, LIKE FOUR YEARS AGO, THAT DENSITY OF HAVE SEEN PARAYKO OR WAS I 9 TO 11 PER ACRE, AND THIS. NAP HERE. EVERYONE A RIGHT IT GOES UP TO 35. PER ACRE, AND THAT'S WHAT I MEANT ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE SCHOOL JUST TO ACCEPT CETERA. WE HAVE A BRAND NEW SCHOOL IN STAR TRAIL AND WHEN THEY BUILD THE OTHER PART OF STAR TREE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LEGACY, OUR CURRENT SCHOOL IS FULL ALREADY. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL GOING IN UNTIL BECAUSE THE OTHER NEW HIGH SCHOOL THAT UM, OFF COIT AND FIRST. THAT'S GOING TO BE READY. I HOPE THIS YEAR AND NEXT, IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE TEEMING WITH STUDENTS, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO MORE HIGH SCHOOLS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE PROVING PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE TAKEN THE CONSIDERATION THE IMPACT ON OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONER. MY NAME'S CLINT RICHARDSON. 11 EXCUSE ME, 10, 9 50 RESEARCH ROAD. FRISCO TEXAS, WORKING ALONG WITH NATE IN THE PAPER DAWSON GROUP WITH THE APPLICANT ON THIS TRACK AND A COUPLE OTHERS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. A COUPLE JUST TO ADDRESS THE GENTLEMAN'S FROM ARTIGAS COMMENTS REAL QUICK, JUST SO IT'S EASY TO KNOCK OUT MY BACKGROUND. I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER, AND I'M WORKING WITH THESE GUYS. SO THE REASON THERE CAN'T BE A PAWNED ON THOSE IS REALLY FOR THIS TOWN'S BENEFIT IF YOU'RE FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES. Y'ALL WOULD PRECLUDE JUST SAME REASON ALL THAT TREES BE PLANTED AND EASEMENTS OR ANYTHING. IT'S SO IF YOU WANT TO GET TO THAT SEWER LINE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DRAIN THE POND AND YOU KNOW ALL THE THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME WITH ANY KIND OF ABOVE ANYTHING ABOVE THE LINE THAT YOU WANT TO ACCESS FOR MAINTENANCE. SO IT'S A WATER LINE. IT'S A SEWER LINES STORM LINE. DON'T HAVE TREES. YOU DON'T HAVE BUILDINGS. YOU DON'T HAVE PAWNS THINGS LIKE THAT ABOVE THE LINE JUST BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE CONCERNS, SO WE DID PICK THAT ALIGNMENT FOR THE SUPER ALIGNMENT COMING FROM PARK PLACE OVER TEAL, WHEREAS AN EXISTING STUB COMING OUT WINDSONG BASED UPON THE BEST GUESS WE HAD FOR A ROAD ALIGNMENT, SO THAT YOU LIMIT HOW MUCH IMPACT YOU HAVE TO THE LAND. RATHER THAN HAVE A SEPARATE SEWERAGE MET. ADJACENT TO ROAD AND SO IT'S JUST A PITY, BUT RIGHT AWAY. YOU'RE 50 FT RIGHT AWAY, PLUS THE 20 FT EASEMENT BEING CLEARED, SO WE TRIED TO KILL TWO BIRDS. ONE STONE. WE DID CHECK THAT POND IS NON JURISDICTIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTISTS LOOK AT THAT. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS THINGS LIVING IN THEIR, UH, THAT POND WAS REALLY CREATED WHEN RTG WAS DEVELOPED 68 YEARS AGO THAT CHANNEL WHAT LOOKS LIKE A CHANNEL NOW IT USED TO BE A CREEK. SO WHEN THEY DEVELOPED ARTESIA, THEY TOOK OUT SECTIONS OF THE CREEK REAL ON THE CREEK. FIND GREATER. THE CREEK MADE THE TRAPS ALL CHANNEL AND DURING THE GRADING OF THAT TRAP CHANNEL ESSENTIALLY DAMMED UP THAT AREA AND CREATED THAT POND. IT WASN'T

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DEVELOPED AS MORE UM, HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL I WORK WITH THE GROUP THAT DEVELOPED THE VILLAGE OF THE LEGACY COMMUNITY FURTHER DOWN ON LEGACY DRIVE. WE RE ZONED IN 14 OR 15. NONE OF THAT AREA IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OR HIGHWAY OR TOLLWAY. WE DID NOT AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AT THAT POINT STAR TRAIL. NONE OF THAT IS MEDIUM DENSITY OR LOW DENSITY. IT'S HALF YELLOW, HALF ORANGE IN THE MAT. NONE OF THAT IS THAT IT'S ALL BROWN. MOST OF OUR T J IS NOT ORANGE. IT'S BROWN WAS SEEMA. YOU GO AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF YOU WENT AND UPDATED THAT MAP BASED ON EXISTING CONDITIONS. 60% OF THE ORANGE 70% OF THE ONE SHOULD PROBABLY BE BROWN. SO UM, I THINK WHILE AND MAYBE IT'S JUST IT'S A STAFFS CHANGE OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND THERE'S PROBABLY A MORE PROPER WAY TO DO IT TO MEND THE PLAN AHEAD OF THE ZONING, I THINK YES, SHOWING A LITTLE SQUARE BROWN AND THIS TREND HERE WITHOUT UPDATING ALL THE OTHER MAPS. UH FOR LACK OF A PART OF THE POND ADDS COLORS THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT STICKS OUT, AND IT'S NOT CONTIGUOUS OR CAN GROW UP WITH EVERYTHING AROUND IT WHEN ACTUALLY IT'S EXCEEDING THE STANDARDS OF PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING AROUND IT. THE GENTLEMAN THAT OWNS THE LAND IS DEVELOPING THE PARK PLACE TO THE EAST. FOR EXPEDIENCY. HE JUST WENT WITH THE 12,500 SQUARE FOOT ZONING THAT HE HAD IN PLACE. UH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE TACKED ONTO THAT FROM A GATED COMMUNITY. I THINK, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A GATED COMMUNITY. DOES COME ALONG WITH SOME BURDENS FOR THE LANDOWNER. SO SAYING THE REZONING IT TO 10,000 SQUARE FOOT 12,005. I THINK SOME OF THE LAND USE PLANS TALKED ABOUT WHAT IT NEEDS TO EXCEED THE CURRENT STANDARDS. I THINK HAVING A GATED COMMUNITY TYPICALLY HAS A VERY HIGH QUALITY HOMES. IT'S A IT'S A LAST MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TOWN BECAUSE THE STREETS ARE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED BY THE RESIDENTS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THERE, SO I BELIEVE IT DOES EXCEED THE STANDARDS OF EVEN JUST A 12,000 SQUARE FOOT MARGINAL ZONING BY GOING WITH 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS THAT ARE WELL IN THE RANGE AND MAYBE EVEN EXCEEDING NEARBY THINGS AND WITHIN THIS PART OF THE TOWNS DEVELOPMENT. AH I THINK I HAD SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I'M LOSING IT. SO UM, AGAIN AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. OH, THE SENIOR LIVING, UH, DONATES POINT THEY HAD LOOKED AT SOME PLANS THAT THEY COULD INCORPORATE THAT AREA INTO A SINGLE FAMILY. UH PURSUING IT, BECAUSE WE DO THINK IS A HIGHER AND BETTER USE FOR THAT TRACT OF LAND CONSIDERING THE INTERSECTION OF THOSE TWO ROADS THAT ARE FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT ROADS FOR THE TOWN OF PROSPER. UM, YOU KNOW WHETHER THAT'S IT PROVIDES A DIFFERENT PRODUCT IN THIS AREA PROVIDES A DIFFERENT WAY. DIFFERENT STYLE, LIVING A DIFFERENT PROCESS POINT. POTENTIALLY AND THEN IT HAS MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE PROPERTY. IF THAT'S CAN'T BE DECIDED, RIGHT NOW, WE MAYBE CONSIDER TAKING TRACK TWO OUT OF THIS CURRENT ZONING REQUEST. AND JUST, UH IF YOU GUYS AND DAVID COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU SOME COUNSEL ON HOW THAT COULD OR COULD NOT BE DONE, OR IF IT CAN BE NOT THAT TRACKED ONE WITH THE TWO SUPERIMPOSED 10,000 SQUARE FOOT GATED COULD BE APPROVED. AND THEN WE COULD, YOU KNOW, PUT SOME PENCIL AND WORK A LITTLE BIT HARDER AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOME MORE DETAILS ON THE SENIOR LIVING, BUT TO HIS POINT THEY HAVE LAID THAT OUT SO THAT IF YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NEVER NEVER MATERIALIZED. THEN IT CAN BE. TACKED ONTO THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS, BUT NOT HOPE. SO

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I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH SURFACE PARKING VERSUS GARAGES. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF UNITS. I THINK THAT'S A STRUGGLE CANDIDLY ATTEND TO I AGREE WITH YOU. SO I THINK THAT ONE WARRANTS MORE WORK MORE DETAIL MORE. I THOUGHT, MORE CANDID PRESENTATION OF THIS IS I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, FROM APPLICANTS PERSPECTIVE, YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY. BUT I UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE THAT SHE'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE CONCRETE DETAILS OF WHAT YOU ARE INDEED APPROVING OR ALLOWING TO HAPPEN ON THE CORNER, SO THAT'S WHY I GOT HIM THROUGHOUT THE HEY KID, ONE MOVE AHEAD AND THE SECOND ONE. LET'S LET'S KEEP WORKING ON IT. WE'RE FINDING IT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. FROM WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY AND SHORT TIMELINE FOR YOU GUYS BECAUSE I REALLY BROUGHT SOME GOOD STUFF. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THIS PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE THE WORK. A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE BY EVERYBODY. SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE TONIGHT AS WE GO TO VOTE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. SURE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TIMELINE IS TO MOVE FORWARD. I HEAR THAT THIS TRACK WITH THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES KIND OF UP IN THE AIR FROM Y'ALL. Y'ALL MIGHT COULD TAKE IT BACK AND LOOK AT JUST DOING THE SINGLE FAMILY. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IT'S BETTER TO PUSH THIS THROUGH. I MEAN, WHAT? WHAT YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF LOOSE ENDS HERE, AND IT'S HARD FOR US TO YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO WORK THE BEST WE CAN AND COME TO A FAIR TIMES. ALWAYS EVERYBODY'S ENEMY DECEMBER DEGREE. WHEN YOU'RE THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD, WE ARE ACTIVELY DEVELOPING THE PARK PLACE COMMUNITY AND AS I SAID HE HAS COMMITMENTS FROM INDIVIDUAL BARS FOR A LOT OF THE LOTS ALREADY, SO THE DEMAND IS TO CONTINUE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ESSENTIALLY SO THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT ARE THE OWNERS READY TO MOVE AHEAD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE, HE'S HE'S APPOINTED RESULTS. I REALLY NEED TO MOVE AHEAD ON THE RESIDENTIAL PART. THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED MAYBE IT'S A TWO STEP PROCESS WHERE TRACK ONE MOVES AHEAD WITH THE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THE IN THE PROPOSED B D AND TRACK TO BEING THE SENIOR HOUSING GETS REFINED, READING DISCUSSED, AND THEN IF IT JUST BECOMES, TOO HEY , JUST TOWN JUST DOESN'T SEE THE VISION OF THAT AND CAN'T GET TO IT. THEN WE FOLDED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BASICALLY IN TIME SO WE CAN GET MAKE IT PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. SO QUESTION FOR DAVID AND STAFF HERE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ONE CASE BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MODIFYING THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. AT THIS POINT IF THERE'S POTENTIALLY CHANGE COMING FROM THE APPLICANT , IS IT BETTER FOR US TO GET ALL THAT IRONED OUT IN DETAIL AND PRESENT THAT NEW CASE TO US OR THAT WE FORGE AHEAD WITH EVERY HOW THE VOTE GOES THIS EVENING. IT GOES TO COUNSEL AND I MEAN, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EDITING TWO DIFFERENT TRACKS AND SO TO ME. THAT ALL TOOK MY OPINION IS WE Y'ALL GET BACK. Y'ALL WORK ON IT NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THEN BRING THIS NEW CASE BACK TO US, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. SO MY RECOMMENDATION I UNDERSTAND. I MEAN, SO AGAIN, IT'S TWO TRUCKS WITHIN ONE P D. SO IF THEY'RE WILLING TO REVISED TRACK TWO, I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST TO JUST TO CABLE THE WHOLE ENTIRE P D. TO DEFINE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND ON TRACK TO BECAUSE IF SOMETHING DOES CHANGE, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO CHANGE THE DENSITY. HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK? AND SO THAT MIGHT CHANGE EVERYTHING. SO UNFORTUNATELY, I WISH WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE BEST THAT THE WHOLE TIRE PD WOULD BE TABLED AND THEN THOSE CONCERNS THAT WERE LAID OUT TODAY THEY CAN WORK ON THEM , PROTECT YOU AND THEN BRING THIS BACK TO PNC. SO THAT IS MY COMMISSIONERS ARE HEARING THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HEARD THAT AND AS WE BRING THIS BACK FROM DISCUSSION A LOT OF FORD AGAIN THIS EVENING. WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN CONSIDERATION SO YES. IT WOULD ALSO JUST SPEAK TO THE EARLIER POINT. UM THE MAP

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UM, NOT MAKE THIS FOR. AND SO AND YOU CAN SEE SOME SOME SOME THAT ARE PROBABLY OUT HERE THAT ARE LITTLE DENSITY. UM AND SO, REALLY, IT WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOK INTO CERTAIN AREAS, BUT AS AS WHAT HE MENTIONED AS WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CHANGE OR EVEN HIGHLIGHTED BECAUSE THIS IS CURRENTLY WHAT THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN STAR TREK CAME IN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S START SHOW DOWN HERE THAT HAS PROBABLY AN AVERAGE OF 8000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. BUT WHEN THE ORIGINAL STAR TREK CAME IN, UM THEY COULD HAVE OFFERED DIFFERENT SIZES OF LOT SIZES THAT RANGE FROM, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE HOW WINDSONG WENT FROM 26,000. AND SO WE WOULDN'T IDENTIFY. ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN EXACTLY WHERE THOSE 6000 AND CHANGE THOSE TWO BROWN. I THINK WHAT WHAT STAFF DID AND AT THE TIME OF ZONING WAS THAT THEY LOOKED AT THE WHOLE MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY AND SAW THAT HEY, THIS IS BETWEEN 26,000 SO THEY PROBABLY LEFT IT AS MEDIUM DENSITY OR JUST LEFT IT ALONE. I THOUGHT AT THAT RANGE TO SAY THAT THE OVERALL AREA THE ZONING AREA OVERALL AVERAGES OUT TO A AVERAGES OUT TO THE MINIMUM FOR A MEDIUM DENSITY. SO POTENTIALLY , YES. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT SOME OF LIKE WINDSONG RANCH COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE ANOTHER HAD, LIKE AT LEAST 708 100 LOBSTER ABOVE, UH, 12,500 SO I DON'T HAVE THAT AVERAGE OF WINDSONG RANCH, BUT AT THAT TIME STAFF FELT THAT THEY DID NOT NEED A MEDIUM DENSITY OR TO CHANGE THAT TO HIGH IDENTITY BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT PARTS OF PHASES OF WINDSONG TOO HIGH DENSITY. OKAY MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY AS A MEDIUM DENSITY. SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IN AND I THINK IT SEEMS AS IF WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION RIGHT NOW TO HAVE YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AROUND. DO YOU WANT TO WAIT? YOU WANNA JUST GO TO THE COMMISSIONER STATEMENTS AND THERE WERE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING? LET'S LET'S WRAP UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. THEN WE'LL TAKE YOU BACK 11 LAST QUESTION FOR EITHER ONE OF YOU GUYS THE LOT SIZES IN THAT PARK PLACE OR 12 5. HMM JUST MORE OF THAT. THANK YOU. THAT DAVID REAL QUICK. AT WHAT POINT DID WE GO BECAUSE IT USED TO BE THE LOWEST SQUARE FOOTAGE LOT IN THE STANDARD SHOULD BE 9500, WHICH WAS ROUGHLY BECAUSE I BUILT SEVERAL ON THIRD STREET AND I WAS TOLD IT HAD TO BE OVER 9500. AND THEY WERE THEY WERE 97. NOW THESE ARE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT.

LOTS. WHEN DID AND HOW DO YOU KNOW? YOU MAY HAVE MADE IT HAPPEN FOR YOU WHEN AND WHO DECIDED TO TAKE FROM 9500 AND 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS BEING HIGH DENSITY BECAUSE AN 80 BY 1 20 LOTS OF GOOD SIZE LINE. I JUST DON'T SEE THAT AS HIGH DENSITY. BUT DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WAS CHANGED, OR I MEAN, PROBABLY WAS BEFORE I WAS HERE. UM BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TALKS ABOUT I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THAT SINCE IT CAME IN. I MEAN, WE HAD A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS, BUT THAT WAS CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT WAS SHOWN IN FRONT OF YOU. UM SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WHAT? WHEN THAT WAS CHANGED, UM YEAH, I CAN BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN. WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THIS EVENING THAT WANTS TO STEP FORWARD AND COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR BEFORE I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ADAM, NUMBER FOUR. AND TAKE IT BACK TO OUR COMMISSIONER. SO THANK YOU. REMEMBER FROM OUR PACKET. HOW WE KIND OF VOTE ON ITEM FOUR. WELL, DICTATE WHAT WE DO ON ITEM FIVE HERE IN A MOMENT. I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND, UH MR REEVES. I'LL LET YOU START OFF WITH ANY COMMENTS WERE JUST KIND OF GO ACROSS ACROSS THE WAY HERE. I MEAN, ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MY THOUGHTS ARE STILL THE SAME AS THEY WERE LAST TIME, AND IT'S YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT FUTURE LAND USAGE IS WITH I MEAN, WE'RE

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CURRENTLY AGAINST CHANGING THE CHANGE THAT TO A HIGH DENSITY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER REEVES, COMMISSIONER JACKSON. YEAH BIG. SO I'VE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH GIVEN MY STATEMENT. I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, UM. THE LOAD IN THE HIGH DENSITY I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER READS AS WELL AND THEN ALSO, IT'S JUST TOO OPEN ENDED TWO TO MAKE A DECISION ON ON THE RESIDENTIAL. I MEAN THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY AND THEN ALSO. IF IT'S UH IF IT'S ALL FOR HIS RENTAL PROPERTIES, THAT'S YOU PROBABLY WON'T GET ME. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JACKSON COMMISSIONER PETTIS. YOU KNOW, I DON'T I JUST I'M CURIOUS AS TO THE POWERS THAT BE THAT CAME UP THAT 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS OR HIGH DENSITY. I JUST DISAGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY. THAT'S A THAT'S 1/5 OF AN ACRE. UM SO I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS PRODUCT AT ALL IS WORKED AS FAR AS THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE OF IT. COMMISSIONER HARRIS. YEAH I ALSO I DON'T HAVE A MAJOR ISSUE. UH, ESPECIALLY IF THE MINIMUM IS 10,000. UH, BUT I DO. BUT TRY TO GIVE ME SOME CONCERNS, VERY DEMANDED SIMILAR TO WHAT COMMISSIONER JACKSON MENTIONED VERY OPEN ENDED UP LIKE TO SEE A LOT OF THAT LANGUAGE TIGHTENED UP TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. TRACKED ONE AGAIN. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME LANGUAGE TIGHTENED UP ON TRACK ONE AS WELL. UM BUT I YOU KNOW, TEND TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PATTIES, I THINK 10,000 SQUARE FEET. ESPECIALLY GIVEN SOME OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS IN THE LOTS OF SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS SURROUNDING IT, UM, BEING SMALLER THAN THAT. I THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S UH I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE, UM A PROBLEM FOR ME. BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE A BETTER REPRESENTATION. UH EVEN IF IT'S FROM THE APPLICANT IF THE AFRICAN IS AWARE OF OTHER AREAS AND LOT SIZES AND DIFFERENT DENSITY AND SURROUNDING AREA, IT MIGHT BE IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION. MUCH LIKE THIS IS PRESENTED BEFORE US NOW TO GIVE US A BETTER PICTURE OF LOT SIZES THAT ARE COMPARABLE TO WHAT YOU'RE BUILDING. UM BUT BUT AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY, I WOULD I WOULD VOTE AGAINST IT. UM BUT, YEAH, I'M ASSUMING THAT WILL BE COMING BACK, AND THERE'LL BE MORE INFORMATION PROVIDED LITTLE TIGHTEN LANGUAGE AND ANOTHER PRESENTATION AT SOME POINT. THANKS, COMMISSIONER HARRIS COMMISSIONER CARSON BOBBY BRIEF . I GENERALLY AGREE WITH EVERYBODY. I THINK TRACK ONE IS NOT FAR OFF OF WHAT WHAT FEELS LIKE IT COULD FIT IN AND BE GOOD. I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO SEE THE BLEND OF THE LOT SIZES WITH PARK PLACE. IT'S ONE OWNER, YOU KNOW ONE H O A AMENITIES. I THINK THAT HELPS THE TRACK ONE FEEL. UM I THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE DEFINITION AROUND THAT GREEN BELT. I THINK. ALTHOUGH IT'S ARTESIAN, NOT TECHNICALLY PROSPER. WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, AND I THINK HOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THAT GREEN BELT OR OR HOW YOU ARE, I THINK WOULD JUST BE A GOOD A GOOD THING TO SEE. AGREE ON THE TRACK TO I FEEL LIKE WE TOOK A LITTLE STEP BACK. YOU KNOW, THE TOWN HOMES MAY FEEL LIKE A MORE LIKE A RESIDENTIAL LOOK AND FEEL. BUT THE ROW HOMES OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THAT WITH MULTIPLE BECAUSE THOSE ARE DOWN LOANS, YOU KNOW THAT FEELS AN AWFUL LOT LIKE AN APARTMENT TO ME, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A HIGH END, AND A LOT OF YEAH, I GUESS. HIGH END SPECIALLY TO SAY IT. I THINK THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS MAY NOT FEEL THAT WAY FROM HOW IT MAY LOOK AND FEEL SO I THINK SOME SUPPORT AND THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE WRITTEN OPPOSITIONS AND NONE FOR SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO SEE IF YOU CONTINUE DOWN THE PATH OF PURSUING TRACK TWO IS THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY. I THINK SOME A LITTLE MORE DEFINITION, LIKE THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS SAID, AND THEN A GOOD SITE PLAN OR CONCEPT PLAN WOULD BE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. I THINK AND THEN SOME SUPPORT FROM THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AS WELL. THANKS COMMISSIONER CARSON AND ALL KIND OF WRAP IT UP. I APPRECIATE, UH , TOWN STAFF. ALL THE EFFORTS

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AND CONTINUING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM UNTIL UNTIL THE NEXT SCHEDULED EVENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE NEXT MEETING DAVID POTENTIALLY, IF I CAN GET ON THERE, I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE WORK BECAUSE I'M ANTICIPATING IT WILL BE A DIFFERENT CASE THAT WE SEE. NEXT TIME BY THE APPLICANT SUBMISSION. SO UH, DAVID, WHAT TIME FRAME WOULD YOU BE LOOKING AT? I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WORK HAS GOT TO BE DONE TO KIND OF REWORK SOME THINGS HERE. UM SO AGAIN. OUR NEXT PNG MEETING IS JUNE 6TH. UM WHICH IS BASICALLY WOULD NEED REVISIONS AND TWO WEEKS UM SO I'M JUST KIND OF LET YOU KNOW I FEEL AGAIN. OUR NEXT PNC MEETING STUDENTS SIXTH AND THEN THAT WOULD MAKE REVISIONS NEEDED IN ORDER TO MAKE THE AGENDA. UM IN TWO WEEKS, SO THAT WOULD GIVE A TIME FRAME OF TWO WEEKS FOR THE APPLICANT TO, UM, WORK ON ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE LAID OUT TONIGHT AND THEN COME BACK ON THE JUNE 6TH MEETING. SO YOU DO HAVE THE OPTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE JUNE SIX MILLION UM. AND I THINK TWO WEEKS SHOULD SHOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS. OKAY THANKS, DAVID. SO I'LL TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. UH THIS IS ADAM NUMBER FOUR REQUEST TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. Z ONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THIS EVENING? SO MOTION CAN BE TABLE APPROVED THEM OUT. IT'S SO. MY RECOMMENDATION IS, I THINK THINGS ARE EVOLVING HERE WITH THIS CASE AND SOME BURBAGE AROUND 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS BUT ALSO HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT. THEY ADMITTED THAT THEY MIGHT CHANGE THE WHOLE THING TO ALL SINGLE FAMILY, AND THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE SAYING. SO I'M BASED ON THAT I WOULD KIND OF. I THINK THAT'S A VIOLENT MOTION TO UM, EMOTIONAL. WE TABLE ITEMS. FOUR. I BELIEVE. MOTION THAT WE TABLE OUR ADAM FOUR TO A FUTURE OF JUNE. WOULD IT BE TILL JUNE 6TH ATTENDED THE PUBLIC HEARING TO JUNE. 6TH, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING. COMMISSION MEETING. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HARRIS TO TABLE ADAM NUMBER FOUR AND CONTINUED TO PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR NEXT MEETING JUNE THE SIXTH THIS YEAR. DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARSON ON THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, TOO. TABLE ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND CONTAINED THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE JUNE 6TH MEETING. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES

[5. Conduct a Public Hearing, and consider and act upon a request to rezone 69.9± acres from Agriculture (A), a portion of Planned Development-40 (PD-40), and a portion of Single Family-12.5 (SF-12.5) to Planned Development-Single Family (PD-SF), generally to allow for a residential development and retirement housing development, located on the southeast corner of Prosper Trail and Teel Parkway. (Z21-0010)]

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[6. Review actions taken by the Town Council and possibly direct Town Staff to schedule topic(s) for discussion at a future meeting.]

SO REAL QUICK PROCESS. QUESTION QUESTION. I GUESS SO. I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE PROBABLY GET THEIR TOWN EMAILS ON THEIR PHONE. OR THEIR IPAD OR BOTH. SOME OF US JUST GET ON THE OP ED. OF COURSE WE'RE WITHOUT OUR OP. EDS. IS THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMMUNICATIONS INBOUND

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IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE LOOK AT, OR IF WE GET THE APP ADS NEXT WEEK, IT MAY BE A MUTE POINT, AND IT'S SUPER HARD TO SEE ON THE YEAH. SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS, UM, AFTER THIS MEETING, WE CAN TALK TO JESSICA. THERE MAY BE WAYS THAT YOU CAN JUST GET ONTO OUTLOOK. AND JUST LOG INTO, LIKE THE WET, RATHER REGULAR INTERNET OR SOMETHING. UM SO THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS LIKE THAT THAT WE COULD LOOK AT UM, I KNOW SOMETIMES IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S EMAIL. WE'VE ALWAYS INCLUDED MAYBE A PERSONAL EMAIL. UM WHICH IS NOT REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO SOMETIMES, BUT I KNOW IT WAS JUST TO GET INFORMATION ON THE AGENDA. UM BUT WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS AND GET WITH Y'ALL. AND AS SOON AS WE'RE DONE WITH THIS MEETING, AND WE CAN SEE WHAT THE BEST ONE BUT I THINK, REALLY, YOU CAN LOG INTO JUST YOUR COMPUTER AND GO TO OUTLOOK AND TRY AND GO ENTER FROM THERE. UM JUST TO VIEW YOUR THE SAME PASSWORD. EVERYTHING SHOULD BE AVAILABLE AND AGAIN. WE'LL CONFIRM WITH JESSICA. I DON'T THINK IT WORKS ON MACBOOKS. OKAY? IT DOES. OKAY. SO THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LEARN COMMUNICATE THROUGH THERE AND THEN, UM, LIKE I SAID, AS SOON AS THE IPADS ALREADY, UM, WE CAN, UM EMAIL OR GIVE EVERYONE A CALL JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'VE HAD ALREADY FOR PICK UP AND WE'LL TRY OUR BEST TO GET THEM BEFORE OUR NEXT JUNE SIX MILLION. WE'LL HAVE THAT TRAINING NEXT NEXT WEEK. YES. AND THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE DAVID. UM I KNOW BEFORE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ACCESS CARDS AND STUFF SO WE CAN PARK OUT BACK. DID YOU EVER COME BACK WITH THAT YET? UM SO DID YOU NOT RECEIVE YOUR SECURITY BADGE YET? OKAY. I HAVE NOT EVEN. OKAY WE WILL. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BADGES IN OUR I THINK WE HAVE SOME ISSUES THAT WERE MISSING. LIKE ONE OR TWO, UM SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE HIM OUT. SO I LOOK, I'LL GET WITH JESSICA. ALRIGHT WELL, ANYTHING ELSE THIS EVENING. WHAT DID YOU SAID? YEAH THERE SHOULD BE IN THE BACK. WE SHOULD HAVE HIM. AWESOME PROBLEM SOLVED. THAT WAS FAST. THANK YOU. AND AS YOU NOTICE, COMMISSIONER, SO WE WERE DOWN ONE COMMISSIONER THIS EVENING WITH RECENT ELECTIONS AND THINGS SO I'M ASSUMING BY OUR NEXT MEETING, WE MAY HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER NAMED AND THAT THAT IS CORRECT. DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT YET, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SEVEN UM AT OUR NEXT MEETING, AND ONE MORE THING THAT I DID NOT INCLUDE JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UM, YOU YOU'LL DEFINITELY KNOW. I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THIS AS WE CAN GET SOME EXPERIENCE AND GUIDANCE ON THIS, BUT DAVID HOOVER, UM, STARTED WHAT WE'VE TWO WEEKS AGO A WEEK AGO. A WEEK AGO MONDAY WEEK AGO LAST MONDAY, SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO DO THAT INTRODUCTION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE . WELCOME YEAH, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO BE HERE. HEY RUN LONGER CATCH WAS ASKING. I ASK BRANDON I SAID COMMISSION, DAN SAID. WHO'S THE OTHER, DAVID ? YEAH WELL, PRETTY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'LL DO AND LEAD YOUR ON BOARD. THIS GUY CAME UP FROM OFF THE STREET SOMEWHERE. BUT I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR SEVEN DAYS NOW, AND IT'S UM, INTERESTING TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S WHO. WHAT'S WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON AND ALL BUT I'M NOT TOTALLY UNAWARE ABOUT PROSPER. WHAT'S GOING ON? BECAUSE I WORKED IN ALLEN FROM 2000 TO 2008 WHILE IT WAS EXPLODING, KIND OF LIKE PROSPER IS NOW AND THEN MOST RECENTLY, I WAS DOWN IN LEAGUE CITY, AND IT WAS GROWING LIKE CRAZY, TOO. WAS THERE FOR A LITTLE OVER FIVE YEARS. SO HAPPY TO BE BACK HOME IS DOWN IN GALVESTON'S AND DOWN IN THE GULF COAST TO BET FOR ALL THE TIME I'VE SPENT AN ALLEN, THIS ALMOST FEELS LIKE MORE HOME . SOUNDS LIKE COMING BACK HOME, SO TO SPEAK, SO I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. WELCOME FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW YOU AND WORKING WITH YOU MOVING FORWARD. SO I DON'T REMEMBER SEVEN THIS EVENING BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 17 COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY SURE. I DIDN'T THINK SO. I WAS JUST ASKING OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS. WHY YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAD THIS LOOKING LIKE HE MIGHT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING I'M GONNA GIVE YOU WAS GONNA GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY SO DIFFERENT SEVEN IS ADJOURNED. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. A MOTION THAT

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