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IT'S REGULAR MEETING OF THE TUESDAY FEBRUARY 7TH 2023 PROSPER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER AT SIX PM ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DAMON JACKSON, WHO HAD INDICATED PRIOR TO THE MEETING. HE WOULD BE OUT OF TOWN THIS EVENING. ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION. THOSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION MUST COMPLETE THE PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST FORM LOCATED IN THE TOWN WEBSITE AND COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IF YOU'RE ATTENDING IN PERSON, PLEASE SUBMIT THIS FORM TO THE BOARD CHAIR OF STAFF MEMBER PRIOR TO THE MEETING. WHEN CALLED UPON. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ITEM NUMBER TWO THIS EVENING IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? PLAN. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND GENERATE PUBLIC, WHICH IS STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD. VISIBLE MAYBE, AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANKS EVERYONE. ITEM NUMBER THREE THIS
[3. CONSENT AGENDA]
EVENING IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. THIS EVENING. ONLY ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM THREE.A DID ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL ADAM THREE A AND IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, YOU KNOW, SECOND FOR APPROVAL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM THREE. THE CONSTANT AGENDA, I'LL SECOND ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE EMOTIONAL MOTION. EXCUSE ME FROM COMMISSIONER VAN WOLF. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CHARLES TO APPROVE. CONSIDER GENERAL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 0. THANK YOU. CITIZEN COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ANY TOPIC. HOWEVER THE COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA.
SO I DID THIS TIME ANYONE HAS ANY GENERAL TOPICS THEY WANT TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK AT ALL I WOULD ASK IS YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PUBLIC HEARING ADAMS TONIGHT AND I'M SURE SEVERAL IN THE AUDIENCE ARE HERE FOR THOSE, SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL AT THAT TIME. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR AGENDA ITEM
[4. Conduct a Public Hearing, and consider and act upon a request to amend Planned Development-94, for the Westside Development, on 63.7± acres, located northside of University Drive and east of FM 1385. (Z22-0020).]
NUMBER FOUR CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERING ACT UPON REQUEST TO AMEND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 94 P D 94 FOR THE WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT ON 63.7 ACRES LOCATED NORTH SIDE OF THE UNIVERSITY DRIVE AND EAST OF 38 . 5. THIS IS CASEY 22-0 TO 0. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.COMMISSIONERS. UM. I STATED IN THE GENDER CAPTION. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF FM 13 85. AND US 3 80 IF YOU'LL RECALL, UM WE DID A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS.
THE MOST RECENT AMENDMENT FOR THIS PD 94 WAS AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL APPROVED NOT TOO LONG AGO.
MM HMM. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW BIG BOX RETAIL USE. UM THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE CONSISTS APPROXIMATELY 160,000. AND RATHER THAN APPLYING FOR AN SCP, WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR A BIG BOX. THE APPLICANT HAS MADE AN AMENDMENTS TO THE CURRENT PD. UH AS SHOWN A REVISED LAYER HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO ALLOW A BIG BOX USE AS WELL AS GAS STATION SO AGAIN, UM, WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE PRESENTATION IS THE PD 94. IF YOU RECALL, AND THEN AGAIN, WE DID THAT AMENDMENT FOR THE EXTENDED HOTEL EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND THEN THIS IS THE PROPOSED MODIFIED LAYOUT . SO YOU HAVE THE BIG BOX STORE AND THE SAYS, UM, THE GAS STATION THERE'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AS YOU ALL RECALL, UM HE ALSO HAD A REQUIREMENT OF 480 MULTI FAMILY UNITS, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE NEW PROPOSAL LAYOUT, THOSE MOST FAMILY UNIT HAVE BEEN REMOVED. SO UM AS PART OF THE AMENDMENT, THE PD DOES NOW ALLOW THE MAXIMUM 243 UNITS.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF LITTLE I'M GOING TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE PROPOSED. UM THIS IS NOT CONCLUDE ALL OF THEM, BUT, UM, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF POINT OUT DURING MY PRESENTATION TO Y'ALL WAS THE NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS AGAIN, UM, WITH DRIVE THROUGHS.
THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 94 REQUIRED FOR ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF FOUR DRIVE THROUGHS. UM IT WAS TOO ALONG FM 13 85. AND TOO LONG US 3 80 AGAIN AS PART OF THE PD AMENDMENT WAS TO ONLY REQUIRE ONE. ALLOW ONE DRIVE THROUGH YOUR LONG 30 FM 13 85 AND THEN PUT THREE DOWN HERE ALONG THE U.
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S OR 80, SO AGAIN, NOT INCREASING BUT JUST SHIFTING AROUND WHAT'S PERMITTED. UM HMM.WITH ANY. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. BRIEFLY, UM THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH NEW NEIGHBORHOOD TO MITIGATE THE YOUTH, UM FROM RESIDENTIAL FOR TYPICALLY BETWEEN ANY NON RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL LIVING. A SCREENING REQUIREMENT IS REQUIRED. AND SO , UM, THAT CAN BE SORT OF, UM, A THREE SCREEN WHILE UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, PND CAN IMPROVE A LIVING SCREEN. WE'VE DONE EVERY PLAN A COUPLE. WE HAVEN'T DONE A LOT LATELY. BUT UM, YOU CAN, WE WILL PUT WE'LL BRING THE SITE PLAN TO YOU ALMOST SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THEY REQUESTED A LIVING SCREEN. UM AND STAFF FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. SO UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED AN EIGHT FT. PRE CAST CONCRETE SCREENING WALL. ALONG THE RETAIL SIDE. SO AGAIN, LOT 18 ARE AND ALONG THE BIG BOX STORE, UM AND WITH WITH SHADE SHOES ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTS AGAIN ON THIS SIDE. UM AS FOR THE MULTI FAMILY SIDE THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED A MODIFIED LIVING SCREEN. HMM. THE PD ORIGINALLY PLANNED FOR A PERIMETER LANDSCAPING, WHICH INCLUDED TWO ROWS. UM THERE IS A 25 FT UTILITY EASEMENT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS CALLS OUT SO YOU IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO SORT OF GET A WALL ENCROACHED IN THIS AREA. UM AND SO THAT'S WHY, UM YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET THE WALL YOU JUST CAN'T BE WITHIN THE 25 FT UTILITY EASEMENT. AND SO, UM, AGAIN, THE PD ORIGINALLY HAD A PERIMETER LANDSCAPING. UM, WHICH INCLUDED TWO ROWS OF TREES . HOWEVER THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING A MODIFIED LIVING SCREEN ALONG THE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH CONSISTS OF TREES AND SHRUBS. UM AS YOU ALL KNOW, TRIGGERS THE PD DOES HAVE TRIGGERS SO THEY REQUIRE CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE IN ORDER FOR MULTIFAMILY TO, UM, PHASES TO OCCUR AS FAR AS THIS AMENDMENT. NONE OF THAT'S CHANGING. UM YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COUPLE WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS EXTENDED HOTEL WAS APPROVED ON A SITE PLAN. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE PAD SITES THAT ARE ALREADY COMING IN FOR APPROVAL. OR ALREADY HAVE BEEN APPROVED. UM ACTUALLY, ONE NORMAL THING, THE OPEN SPACE SO AGAIN, UM, LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT BETWEEN BEFORE AND AFTER. THE PD DOES ALTER OR THE PD AMENDMENT DOES ALTER THE CONFIGURATION OF THE URBAN OPEN SPACE. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THIS WITH THE OPEN SPACE HERE. IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE BIG BOX . THE OPEN SPACE HAS TURNED INTO SORT OF A LINEAR PARK. UM, AGAIN , THE ACREAGE IS REMAINING THE SAME. BUT NOW INSTEAD OF AN OPEN SPACE, IT'S UH, YOU KNOW, TRIANGLE PARK, IT'S TURNED INTO A LINEAR PART. UM, ARCHITECTURE AGAIN. THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UM THAT INCLUDES THE BUILDING MATERIALS. THE APPLICANT IS UM, WELL ENTER TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO INCLUDE WHAT'S SHOWN ABOVE YOU. AND THIS IS EXHIBIT FOR THE FUEL FACILITY. AND AS ALWAYS, I ALWAYS LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN SO AGAIN.
THIS IS LOCATED ON THE FAR SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE TOWN OF PROSPER. UM IT IS CALLED WITHIN THE U. S. 3 80 DISTRICT, UM, WHICH DOES CONFORM ZONING REQUEST. NOTIFICATIONS WERE.
PROVIDED TO THE NEIGHBORING SERVICES OR NAMING PROPERTY. UM TODAY STAFF HAS RECEIVED SIX LETTERS. AS OF, UM, PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. AND ALL RESPONSE AGAINST, UM THERE'S ONLY REQUEST. UM THAT BEING SAID STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONING REQUESTS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TONIGHT FOR A PRESENTATION OR JUST SORT OF, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM AS WELL AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. RIGHT DAVID. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. AT THIS TIME. WE'LL COMMISSIONERS DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR DAVID. DAVID ON THE MODIFIED, UM WALL.
ONE THAT'S IN THERE. BEHIND THE APARTMENTS ARE AROUND THE APARTMENTS. THE EASEMENT THAT'S THERE. I GUESS THAT. STATEMENT IS THAT THEY REALLY CAN'T GET A FULL WALL JUST SORT OF ALSO READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS. THEY CAN'T GET A FULL WALL THERE. WHAT IF WHAT'S THE SORT OF THE MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR MAKING SURE THAT THAT WALL SAYS HEALTHY IF IT'S GOING TO BE A LIVING MALL SO AGAIN, AS WITH ANY TYPE OF WALL THAT WE HAVE NOW, UM IS I THINK, ACTUALLY COLD WENT OUT TO LAW. UM ON THE WEST SIDE THAT WAS SORT OF FALLING APART. AND SO QUOTE SENT
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OUT A LETTER. I MEAN OUR TYPICAL STANDARD IF IT'S FALLEN APART OR ANY MAINTENANCE, EVEN IF SHRUBS YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE ICE STORM WE HAD SNOW EVENT. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S SORT OF NOT FOLLOWING A CONFORMING TO THE ZONING OR THE SITE PLAN, RESIDENT CAN APPLY OR SEND A COMMENT TO THE QUIET AND WE'LL GET OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE WAR MAINTENANCE OR LANDSCAPING. I KNOW WE'RE SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT LENIENT. WE HAVE SOME SNOW OR SOME ICE. UM BUT, YES, THEY WILL HAVE TO CONFORM TO EVERYTHING THAT'S APPROVED.THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TOP THAT'S GOOD SECOND MILEAGE. ONE QUESTIONER. WHEN WE ORIGINALLY APPROVED UM THE FAN IN PLAN. UM THE EAST SIDE WHERE ALL THAT GREENERY IS HE WAS GOING TO DO LIKE A PICNIC AREA AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ARE THEY JUST GONNA MAKE THAT ANOTHER NEW PAD SITE THAT ARE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP AT SOME POINT. SO YOU SAID THAT THE EAST SIDE LIKE THE OPEN SPACE FLIGHT? YES AND THAT NONE OF THAT'S BEEN CHANGED OR ALTERED. SO WHATEVER WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PD 94. IT'S STILL WITHIN THIS, SO I KNOW THERE ARE SOME TRAILS. POTENTIALLY SOME CHARLIE HEADS PARKING, SO THAT'S ALL STILL STAYING THE SAME. YEAH. DAVID TWO QUESTIONS. I HAD ONE. I KNOW THERE'S SOME RESIDENTS TO EXPRESS TRAFFIC CONCERNS. HOW DOES THE TIMING OF THIS MINUTE UH, CONSTRUCTION ALIGNED WITH, UM. THE INITIAL TIME FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT PUSHING BACK BECAUSE OF THE REZONING AND HOW DOES THAT COINCIDE WITH ANY OTHER BROKE CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA, SO I KNOW THERE'S UM I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN HAUSSMANN FROM ENGINEERING TO TALK AS WELL. BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE TO FOUR TO SORT OF MITIGATE FOR THIS AS WELL. AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT ALSO IS HERE THAT CAN SPEAK ON WHAT ARE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS AS DAN HEISMAN IS HERE? UM, HE CAN TALK ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE TIMING OF THE ROADS THIS TEXT ON AND ALL THAT, OKAY? BUT YES, THE AFRICAN IS HERE AND CAN ALSO ANSWER THAT. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IN TERMS OF THE WALL. I KNOW IT DEFINES THE WALL. ONE WAY. I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER NOTES WE RECEIVED WAS, YOU KNOW, REQUEST TO ADJUST OR CHANGE THE WALL FROM PRECAST CONCRETE TO BRICK. SOME OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. HOW MUCH LEVERAGE DO WE HAVE IN THAT AND MAKING THIS AMENDMENT OF CONVERSATION AGAIN? JENNINGS DISCRETIONARY. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE UM, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO OFFER SUBJECT TO MORE THAN HAPPY TO AND AT THE TIME AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU, SIR. AND, UH, DAN'S GOING TO JUST TALK BRIEFLY ON THE TRANSMISSION PART. EVENING. UH, QUESTION. OH, LET YOU KNOW THAT THE BIG BOX USER IS JUST AS CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THE IMPROVEMENTS IS JUST MUCH AS THE TOWN IS. UH YOU WERE THREE YEARS AS YOU ALL KNOW WHAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH THE TEXT THAT ROADWAY CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. APOLOGIZE I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE BRAVELY. I THINK IT'S MORE TWO YEAR TIMEFRAME. TO BE COMPLETED . I MEAN, IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE AT LEAST TWO YEARS, IF NOT LONGER. I CAN'T TELL YOU FOR DEVELOPMENT AND HOW LONG IT CAN TAKE THAT. BALLPARK GIVING 12 MONTHS IS PROBABLY FAST TRACKING IT. SO A LOT OF 3 80 IMPROVEMENTS MIGHT BE IN BY THE TIME THEY'RE THEY'RE OPENING FOR BUSINESS. 3 80. I'M SORRY. 13 85 ON THE WEST SIDE. A LITTLE DIFFERENT STORY TEXT UP HAS JUST GONE THROUGH A SCHEMATIC PHASE SO THAT THAT IS YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS TO PUT SOME ADDITIONAL TURN LANES ON THE EXISTING TWO LANE ASPHALT AND EVEN DURING THE SIGNAL WARRANT, USUALLY WE WAIT TILL DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, AND THEN WE DO A WARRANT WHERE WE'RE ALREADY DEVELOPER AS WELL AS US. WE'RE KIND OF AHEAD OF THAT DISCUSSION. TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO BE A SIGNAL ON 13 85. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YES. THAT WAS GREAT. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT, I'LL ASK. THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD WITH THE PRESENTATION. MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COMMISSION DAVID BOND ASPIRES ENGINEERING 7 65 CUSTOM ROAD IN PLANO HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TONIGHT WHO IS ALSO THE APPLICANT, MR XI MACANDREWS. PRESIDENT THERE. UM UH, HERE REALLY WANTED TO KIND OF INTRODUCE THE PROJECT. YOU MENTIONED MAN, MIKE FANNIN. SHE WAS SINCE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FROM MIKE FANNIN. SO HE'S TAKEN OVER THE ENTIRETY OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS YOU CAN SEE, KIND OF IN THE OVERALL PLAN THERE ARE TRIGGERS WERE MENTIONED. AND SO
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WE'VE WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND CURRENTLY EITHER UNDER DESIGN OR PERMANENT ARE THE HOTEL THAT'S HERE. RETAIL BUILDING. CAN YOU SEE MY MOUTH? I THINK THAT SHOWS THAT THE RETAIL THERE LOTS EIGHT AND NINE. WHAT EIGHT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. LOT NINE IS IN IN TOWN STANDS FOR BUILDING PERMIT AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SATISFIES THE TRIGGER THAT YOU WERE MENTIONING REGARDING THE PHASE ONE MULTI FAMILY. REALLY THE INTENT OF THE REQUEST IS TO REVISE ONLY THE AREAS THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE REVISED TO EFFECTUATE THE COSTCO. AND SO WE'RE NOT REVISITING THE OPEN SPACE AND AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL PIECES ON THE EAST THAT YOU MENTIONED MAN THAT'S STAYING AS IS THE UNITS WERE STAYING WITH WHAT WE HAD IN PHASE ONE. WE DID REMOVE ONE OF THE FUEL USERS. SO COSTCO IS PROPOSING PROPOSING THE REMOTE FUEL THAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE. AND THEN YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT. WE REMOVED FROM THIS PD THE STANDALONE GAS USERS SO WE'D ONLY BE LOOKING AT THE COSTCO SHOULD THIS ZONING PROVED TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND THEN LASTLY, YOU CAN. YOU CAN JUST KIND OF SEE HERE. YOU KNOW HOW WE'VE THE REQUEST IS REALLY FOR THESE THREE LOTS IN THE NORTHWEST. UM YOU KNOW, I'D ALSO MENTIONED THAT IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION DURING THIS PROCESS THAT THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER AND INITIATED SOME WORK AND CAN'T DRIVE. THAT KIND OF GOT STOPPED. AND SO OUR INTENT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A SUCCESSFUL REQUEST IS TO FINISH THAT WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE. UM ON ON BEHALF OF THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND IN THE GOOD FAITH TO THE TOWN WITH THAT I'M GOING TO HAND OVER TO STEVE CROSS ON BEHALF OF COSTCO AND LET HIM WALK YOU THROUGH THEIR DEVELOPMENT MORE SPECIFIC, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY OVERALL QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE WHEN WE GET TO THE END. THANKS. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEVE CROSS, COSTCO'S REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT WITH YOU. MY ADDRESS IS 1955. RAYMOND DRIVE, NORTH KOREA, ILLINOIS. SO I DON'T WANT TO KIND OF REHEARSE SOME OF STUFF. DAVID GAVE A GREAT SUMMARY AND BOTH DAVIDS ACTUALLY GAVE A GOOD SUMMARY TO THIS POINT. SO OTHER THAN JUST FOCUSING ON THIS DRAWING HERE THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, WHICH I THINK CLEARLY SHOWS, UM, REALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PRIOR PLAN, AND I THINK THE COLORIZATION REALLY KIND OF ILLUSTRATES THAT AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE TO ACCOMMODATE THE COSTCO SIDE. THERE'S 54 STORY. MULTI FAMILY BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE PROJECT. THE ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS GONE, AND THEN THERE'S THREE OTHER SMALLER RETAIL BUILDINGS HAVE GONE AND I THINK QUITE IMPORTANTLY, AS DAVID BOND MENTIONED, YOU KNOW THE FUEL FACILITY, ONE THAT WAS PROPOSED ON THE CORNER THERE, WHICH WOULD BE A REGULAR GAS STATION.CONVENIENCE STORE HAS CHANGED. AND NOW WE HAVE THE COSTCO FUEL FACILITY, WHICH IS REALLY IT'S A MEMBER OF IT'S PART OF THE MEMBER ONLY FUELING, SO IT'S REALLY GOING TO HAVE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THE TRAFFIC GENERATION BECAUSE IT'S 60 TO 65% OF THE MEMBERS THAT COME TO THE WAREHOUSE, GO AND FUEL AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A TOTALLY SEPARATE VISITS BY PEOPLE. THESE ARE PEOPLE COMING TO THE WAREHOUSE, FUELING UP AND GOING TO THE WAREHOUSE. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THE INTENSITY ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE UP AGAINST THE AREA THAT WE'RE CHANGING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY HERE HAS CHANGED QUITE DRAMATICALLY. LET ME JUST INTRODUCE WELL, BEFORE I JUMP INTO IT. I'VE GOT RECENT YUKI HERE IS OUR ARCHITECT OUT OF SEATTLE. SHE WORKS ON COST GOES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND THEN WE HAVE JUDDMONTE MIXES ARE LOCAL CIVIL ENGINEER WHO'S VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE TEMPLE DETAILS. TWO. COSTCO PLAN. UM TRAFFIC. IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. I MEAN, IF WE CANNOT GET OUR MEMBERS IN AND OUT SAFELY AND SECURELY AND EFFICIENTLY WE HEAR ABOUT IT WERE THE FIRST ONE TO GET COMPLAINTS FROM THE MEMBERS WHO SAY I'M STUCK IN TRAFFIC, SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE IN THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SITE PLAN. WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT WAS THIS ACCESS ALBUM TO 13 85 IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. SO WE DID. HAVE TO REALIGN THE ROADWAY THAT WAS RUNNING PARALLEL TO 13 85. WE KICKED IT OUT SO THAT WE COULD GET A LONGER RUN OUT HERE. AND IF YOU RECALL BACK ON THE PRIOR PLAN WHAT WAS HAPPENING UP IN THAT CORNER? YOU HAD THESE TWO MULTI FAMILY BUILDINGS YOU HAVE THE RETAIL AND ENTERTAINMENT IS VERY SHORT THROAT HERE, SO WE TOOK A VERY CLOSE LOOK AT THAT, AND WE FELT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO DO THAT. AND UM AND ALSO LOOK AT THE LIGHT THERE BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US. UM I'LL JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE COSTCO SITE. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, IF YOU WANT MORE DETAILS, SENDING ADD TO IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IT TOO MUCH THAT THE SITE ITSELF, BUT THE WAY WE ARE INTO THE SITE AND PUT THE COSTCO AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE, THE WAREHOUSE ENTRANCE, WHICH IS JUST THE ONE ENTRANCE TO THE MEMBER'S ENTRANCE ACTUALLY IS AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER SITE AND THAT IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE MIDDLE OF THE SITE, SO WE CAN KIND OF RADIAL POSITION ALL OF OUR PARKING AROUND FROM MEMBERS CONVENIENCE THERE, AND THE ACTIVITY IS TYPICALLY LOCATED DOWN IN THIS AREA, SO IT IS FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. OBVIOUSLY
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IN PEAK TIMES, TRAFFIC WILL FLOW UP INTO THAT CORNER AS WELL, AND EMPLOYEES WILL PARK UP THERE, BUT GENERALLY THE ACTIVITIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THE THAI CENTER IS ALSO ON THE SOUTH SIDE FACING AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE OF THE CONFIGURATION AND LIMITATIONS WE HAVE IN THE BUILDING LAYOUT THAT RESULTS IN THE DARK AREA THAT RECEIVING DOCK ON THE NORTH END OF THE SITE THERE. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE AS AS WAS MENTIONED. WE MET WITH HOW MANY ASSOCIATION BOARD MEMBERS IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR WE TALKED ABOUT THE SITE PLAN THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH. AND THEN WE FOCUSED ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO TRY TO MITIGATE THE BUILDING BEING UP THERE. UM SO WE WORK WITH THEM CLOSELY. ORIGINALLY TRYING TO GO WITH THE LIVING SCREEN THERE, WHICH I THINK THERE WAS A BIT OF A PREFERENCE THERE FROM THE TOWN CAME UP VERY NICE, DETAILED TRIPLE EVERGREEN SCREENING ALONG THE COSTCO BUILDING AREA, SO FROM FROM THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. AND ALSO WE ELEVATED THE WALL NEXT TO THE DOCK AREA. SO INSTEAD OF JUST COMING UP FOUR FT ABOVE THE GROUND, WE'RE GOING TO GO UP TO NINE FT. ABOVE THE GROUND THERE TO SCREEN THE TRUCKS AS THEY'RE BACKING UP INTO THAT DARK AREA. SO WE WORKED WELL WITH THEM, AND THEN THOSE CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS AND WE ENDED UP ON THIS SCREEN WALL. THEY DECIDED, THEY SAID, WE REALLY WANT THAT WALL ALONG THE RETAIL. SO WE PROPOSED IN THAT IN TERMS OF THE MATERIAL IS MENTIONED ABOUT WHETHER IT'S MASONRY OR PRE CAST CONCRETE. OBVIOUSLY PRECAST CONCRETE CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS TO IT, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT A MASONRY TYPE BRICK. FINISH TO IT. IT, SO IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE BRICKS. IT'S GOING TO HAVE PIERS. THERE'S GONNA BE EVERY 20 FT WITH CAPS ON THEM, AND IT LOOKED LIKE MASON BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE A DOUBLE PAINTING WILL BE PAINTED ONE TIME TO GET ALL THE GROUT LINES AND IT WILL BE PAINTED AGAIN TO GET THE SURFACE OF THE BRICKS WITH SOME KIND OF WEATHERING TEXTURE TO IT, SO I'LL ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE MASONRY AND PROBABLY BE A LOT MORE DURABLE, LESS MAINTENANCE ON IT THERE SO UM, THAT'S WHAT WE PROPOSE. SO THEY LOOK WILL BE A MASONRY. LOOK, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. SO SO WE WORKED WITH THEM, AND I THINK WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT UM AS FAR AS THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD ON THE WALL AND I CAN SHOW YOU THIS SECTION WE CAME UP WITH HERE. SO THIS IS TO THE NORTH EAST OF THE LEFT, SO THE RESIDENCES ARE ON THE LEFT HERE. YOU'VE GOT THEIR TRAIL SYSTEM, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, THEN YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THERE'S A FAIRLY GOOD FOR ABOUT HALF OF THAT PROPERTY, PARTICULARLY ALONGSIDE THE COSTCO BUILDING. THERE'S AN EXISTING TREE LINE. THAT IS A FAIRLY DENSE SCREEN RIGHT NOW. AS YOU GO TOWARDS FM 13 85. IT KIND OF DISAPPEARS AT THAT POINT, BUT UP AGAINST THE BUILDING IS IN A PERFECT LOCATION. YOU'VE GOT THE 25 FT EASEMENT ON THE PROFIT THE WESTSIDE PROPERTY FOR THE UTILITY EASEMENT, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT THE WALL. IT'S ABOUT TWO FT. OFF OF THAT EASEMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE FOOTINGS TO GET IN THERE. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUT A PROBABLY 3 TO 4 FT. HIGH BURN WHATEVER WE CAN FIT IN THAT SPACE TO ELEVATE THE PLANTINGS AND ALONGSIDE THE BUILDING. WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE A DOUBLE ROW HAVE EVER BEEN TYPE TREES HERE, AND THEY'LL BE SLIGHTLY MORE MATURE THAN YOU MIGHT TYPICALLY SEE. SO THEY'LL BE GOING IN AT LIKE 8 TO 10 FT. TALL AND WE WANT TO GET THAT HEIGHT THERE INITIALLY. AND THEN THE SCREEN WALL WE'VE GOT HERE IS UP AGAINST THE DARK HAIR, AND HE NOTICED THE DARK FACES WEST. THE SOUND IS KIND OF PROJECTED OUT TO THE WEST, AS OPPOSED TO THE NORTH FACING THE RESIDENCES THERE. UM THIS IS JUST THE SCREENING ON THE PARKING AREA.SO YOU'VE GOT THE COSTCO IS ON THE LEFT SIDE NOW, SO YOU'VE GOT THE PARKING LOT. THERE WILL BE A GAP IN HERE WITH THE WALL IN AND WE'RE GOING TO GET A ROUGH TREES AND THAT LOCATION THERE. THERE WILL ALSO BE ANOTHER ROW OF TREES. EVERY 50 FT AND IN EVERY 12 PARKING STALLS OR SO THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ONE ISLAND IN THERE, SO LET ME KIND OF DOUBLE ROW AT THAT LOCATION AS WELL. AH SO WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD SOLUTION TO THE SCREENING THERE AND MITIGATING THE VISIBILITY AND THE SOUND OF THE RESIDENCES THERE. SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE RIGHT NOW, OR I CAN ANSWER THEM LATER. OTHERWISE WE COULD COME UP AND JUST KIND OF TOUCH ON THE ARCHITECTURE. MAYBE WE JUST HAVE THE ALL THE PRESENTATIONS AND WE JUST OPEN UP THE QUESTIONS. PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS RISA YUKI. I'M WITH MG TO ADDRESS IS 1110 2ND AVENUE.
SEATTLE, WASHINGTON 98 1. OH, ONE. RIGHT SO THE INTENT OF THE BUILDING SIGN HERE IS TO REALLY PROVIDE VISUAL INTEREST IN ARTICULATION FOR THE USE OF DIFFERENT MATERIALS, TEXTURES AND COLORS ON THIS BUILDING. WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A LARGE BUILDING AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO EMBRACE IT, AS OPPOSED TO JUST TRY AND CHOPPING IT UP AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING AND BREAKING IT UP. UM, THE AS, UM DEFINITELY MENTIONED WE HAVE THREE TYPES OF MYSTERY ON THIS, BUT WITH BUILDING AH! MAIN POINT IS TO REALLY GROUND THE BUILDING WITH THE WITH THE SPLIT FACE CMU AND THEN UM AND THEN ANCHOR THE CORNERS WITH FULL HEIGHT STRUCTURAL BREAK. AND THEN TO CONTINUE THAT VERTICAL ARTICULATION ACROSS THE BUILDING. WE CARRIED THAT VERTICAL ELEMENT ACROSS THE FACADE. UM AND THEN WE'VE ALSO AS STEVE CROSS HAD MENTIONED AT
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THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE IS THE MEMBER ENTRANCE, WHICH IS THE SINGLE ENTRY AND WE WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT SO WE BROUGHT FORTH THE NATURAL LIMESTONE ELEMENTS AND TO THE TALL PILLARS THERE. SO THE ENTRY CANOPY IS AN OPEN CANOPY OR WHETHER CANOPY, SO IT HAS LIKE AN ARCADE ELEMENT TO IT. SO GET INTO THE SHADE, AND THEN YOU ENTER THE BUILDING UNDERNEATH THAT. UM THE KIND OF EXPLAIN ABOUT THE UPPER PORTION OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS THE ARCHITECTURAL METAL PANELS. SO WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF METAL PANELS HERE. ONE IS THE BOXER AND THE OTHER IS AN EMBOSSED METAL PANEL. SO SOME KIND OF COOL, SUSTAINABLE ELEMENTS OF THE BUILDING IS THAT THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE SKIN OF THE BUILDING AND ALSO THE ROOF. HAS, UM IT'S UM AH, CONTRIVED OF 80% RECYCLED MATERIAL. ANOTHER INTERESTING FACT IS THAT THE INSTALLATION ALSO IS 55% RECYCLED MATERIALS, SO THE BUILDING STRUCTURE ITSELF IS SUPER SUSTAINABLE. AND THEN WITH THE WITH THE INSTALLATION THAT OUR VALUE IS ABOUT ONE ANSWER IS ABOUT EIGHT PER INCH.AND SO BY HAVING THE MIXTURE OF THE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF METAL PANELS. WE ARE ABLE TO ELIMINATE A LARGE, UH, LARGE TON HBS UNIT ON THE BUILDING. UM. THE OTHER THING, UM, WHICH I WANTED TO MENTION WAS THE VOTING BOX SCREEN WALL. SO WE HAVE NOT ONLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF CMU AND MAKE STRING ON THE BUILDING THAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY DO. WE'VE ALSO DOUBLED THE HEIGHT OF THAT SCREEN WALL ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE DOCK. OKAY JUST TO TOUCH ON A FEW FACILITY. UM IT'S SECONDARY TO THE BUILDING. HOWEVER, ITS PROMINENT SO IT'S REALLY DESIGNED TO TAKE CUES TO THE BUILDING. UM TYPICALLY, THIS MIGHT HAVE, LIKE A REALLY FLAT FISHER. BUT HERE WE'VE BROUGHT FORTH THE BOX. THE ARCHITECTURAL BOX RIBBED THE FACIAL. WE'VE ADDED A SMALL CORNICE AND TRIM WORK TO THE TOP AND THE BOTTOM AND THEN WE'VE ALSO PULLED FORWARD THE STRUCTURAL BRICK ON THE COLUMNS. UM SO THAT YOU KNOW IT, ENHANCE IT. IT COMPLEMENTS THE BUILDING. AND THEN THE SMALL BUILDING THAT YOU SEE AT, UM THE BOTTOM ELEVATIONS OF THE CONTROLLER ENCLOSURE, AND THAT IS, UM, A SMALL UNIT THAT HOUSES THE MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS THAT OPERATE THE FUEL FACILITY. AND SO TYPICALLY, THIS IS A MIDDLE BUILDING. BUT HERE WE'VE ENHANCED IT TO THE, UH, THE STRUCTURAL BREAK SO IT WILL BE COMPLETELY IN STRUCTURAL BREAK. OH, YEAH. I'M SORRY, BUT WORTHY OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY SO JUST SOME DETAILING AROUND THE ENTRY CANOPY, SO WE HAD THE SPOT FACE CMU, BUT WE'VE BROUGHT FORTH SOLDIER COURSING ALONG THE TOP EDGE IS ALSO AT THE STRUCTURAL BRICK BUILDING CORNERS AND THEN, UM AND THEN I DID. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PERSPECTIVE. KIND OF SHOW THAT ARCADE TYPE FEEL, UM AT THE BUILDING. WHAT KIND OF FLIP THROUGH THEM? THE AT THE TIRE CENTER. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LIGHT INTO THE TIRE CENTER.
THEREFORE THE WE HAVE GLASS SECTIONAL DOORS. SO QUICK QUESTION. ALAS, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. HOW DIFFERENT IS THIS THAN THE AVERAGE COSTCO AS FAR AS THE BUILDING MATERIALS? WHAT IS THIS MORNING UNIQUE THAN THE OTHER COSTCO'S? YOU'RE BUILDING AROUND THE COUNTRY IN I NOTICED THE LAND STONE ACCENTS AND SOME IS THAT MORE UNIQUE TO THIS ONE. AND SOME OTHERS.
ABSOLUTELY ARE THE I WANT TO SAY THAT THE STANDARD. COSTCO IS AND I BUILD THEM AND. DIFFERENT AREAS IS PRETTY MUCH FULL HEIGHT METAL. THERE IS NO MYSTERY ON THE BUILDING. THERE'S A TWO FT HIGH CONCRETE STEM ALL AND THEN AT TIMES, YOU MIGHT CHANGE THAT TO CMU. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT'S ALL VERTICAL REBUTTAL PANEL COLORS. SO YOU HAVE ADDED A LOT MORE. UNIQUENESS TO THIS ONE.
AND YES, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. CAN I FOLLOW UP WITH THAT? SO DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ONE LIKE IN FRISCO? AND THE TOLLWAY. YOU'RE THE ONE ON IN MCKINNEY ON 3 80.
OKAY, YOU DID. I MEAN, IT LOOKS SIMILAR TO THAT. SO DID YOU HAVE TO DO IS THAT PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. I'M NOT BEING HONEST AS A AS A PATRON. I DON'T PAY ATTENTION THAT MUCH TO IT AS I GO IN AND OUT THE ONLY THING I DID KNOW IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO YOUR ENTRANCE. YOU LOOK LIKE YOU REALLY KIND OF MAXIMIZED ON ONE SIDE, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK THE WEST SIDE. OF THE ENTRANCE OF THE PAVILION AND COMING IN FROM THE SOUTH SIDE IS THAT IS THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE ON YOUR OTHER OF TWO ENTRANCES, WHETHER CATTY CORNER TO EACH OTHER, UM, JUST TO CORRECTIVE. YOUR FIRST COMMENT IN QUESTION WAS THAT IS IT SIMILAR TO THOSE? AND IT IS, UM, THAT, UM, IT YEAH, BOTH OF THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE THE STONE.
THE STRUCTURAL, UM AND THE CMU AND THE INSULATED MIDDLE PANEL TO FLAT PANEL AS WELL. UM AND THEN, UM KIND OF SIMILAR COLORS . UM, AND THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT THIS. OKAY? SO IN THE
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PAST, COSTCO HAD AN ANGLED CAN'T BE RIGHT. AND SO THAT IS IT. STILL, IT STILL HAD ONE SIGN FRONT TO IT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE KIND OF SEEING IT FROM TWO SIDES RIGHT HERE. THE CHANGE PROBABLY CAME ABOUT, LIKE, TWO YEARS AGO OR SO I WANT TO SAY AND THEN I'M SORRY, PANDA, BECAUSE KINDA IN MY TIMELINE, BUT BUT IT'S HARD TO SEE IN THIS, BUT EVEN OFF TO THIS SIDE OVER HERE THERE ARE THERE ARE PORTALS STILL WALK THROUGH. SO YOU GET THAT ARCADE TYPE FEELING? YEAH. THANK YOU. I HAD A QUESTION. I KNOW A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO SPOKE TO IT IN TERMS OF SIZE AND SCALE. SO WE TALKED ABOUT MATERIALS COMPARISON TO OUR TWO LOCAL COSTCO. SO MCKINNEY AND 3, 80, FRISCO AND ELDORADO IN TERMS OF FOOTAGE. I BELIEVE THIS IS 160,000 SQUARE FEET. IS THAT CORRECT? YES DOES THAT COMPARISON IN TERMS OF THE SIZE COMPARED TO OUR TWO LOCAL? SO, UM OKAY, LET ME THINK, UM I BELIEVE THOSE TWO ARE ONE. TOTAL WITH A CANOPY AROUND ABOUT 150,000 SQUARE FEET. SO THIS MIGHT BE JUST A LITTLE BIT LARGER. YEAH. YEAH BUT THE SALES FOOTPRINT IS BOTH. THIS IS VERY SIMILAR. OKAY AND THEN QUESTION THE LOADING DOCK FOOTPRINT. UM I KNOW WE RECEIVED FROM SOME FEEDBACK FROM SOME RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF THE LOADING DOCK PROXIMITY, AND I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA EFFORTS, BUT THIS LOADING DOCK COMPARED TO BELIEVE YOUR MCKINNEY ONE BACK STEP SIMILAR IN TERMS OF THE ANGLE OF THE BUILDING CLOSE TO HOMES. YES YES , I THINK THE MCKINNEY ONE ON 3 80 JUST DECIDE OF 75. I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT THE SAME CONFIGURATION. REMEMBER CORRECTLY THERE. THERE'S SOME SORT OF MASONRY WALL AND SOME LANDSCAPING. BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA EITHER YOU OR THE DEVELOPER HOW THAT COMPARES BECAUSE I GO THERE A LOT SO VISUALLY. I KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. COMPARED TO THIS, RIGHT? UM YEAH. THE SCREENING? YEAH BRICK, OKAY. I THINK IT'S I THINK THAT ONE'S A MASONRY WALL AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE BUILT. I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER BUILT THAT. OKAY I BELIEVE IN HEIGHT WISE. IT'S ABOUT THE SAME. OKAY SORRY. LAST QUESTION ABOUT LOADING DOCK IN TERMS OF TIME FRAMES. OBVIOUSLY STUFF COMES IN ALL DAY. BUT THE BULK OF YOUR TRUCKS ARE THEY COMING IN AND THE OVERNIGHT HOURS WINS THE RECEIVING, OR DO YOU HAVE A CERTAIN WINDOW? YOU ASK YOUR TRUCKS TO ARRIVE? SO THE TRUCKS WILL COME FROM SO COSTCO HAS THEIR OWN FLEET OF TRUCKS. BUT THEN THEY ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER TRUCKS THAT COME IN AS WELL. AND SO, UM, MAJORITY. THE TRUCKS COME LIKE FIVE. I AM AND FIBER. YEAH, FIVE OR SIX A.M, AND THEN THERE, UM, THEY TRY TO GET MAJORITY OF THEIR TRUCKS IN AND OUT BEFORE THE WAREHOUSE OPENS IN THE WAREHOUSE OPENS AT 10 A.M. OKAY SO IT'S SAFE TO ASSUME THE EARLIEST MORNING HOURS WOULD BE A FIVE AM TRUCK COMING IN THINKING ABOUT NOISE WHEN YOU KNOW, BACKING UP BEEPS AND OKAY, WEEKEND IS IT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK OR ANY ON THE WEEKEND? I BELIEVE IT IS. YES I BELIEVE IT IS IN THE ONE THING ABOUT IT IS RESET WAS MENTIONING IS YOU KNOW WE TEND TO GET OUR SEMI DELIVERIES IN BEFORE THE WAREHOUSE OPENS. WE WANT THE PRODUCT OUT ON THE FLOOR ON THE SHELVES, SO IT'S NOT CONTINUOUS DURING THE DAY AND THAT'S AND IT'S NOT OVERNIGHT, EITHER. SO THERE WON'T BE TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT AT 9 10 MIDNIGHT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND MAYBE ONE OF TIME. TWO TIMES WHERE TRUCK MIGHT DROP A FULL LOAD, PICK UP AN EMPTY TRAILER AND LEAVE, BUT THERE'S NOBODY THERE TO DO ANYTHING. IT'S REALLY JUST A DROP THE TRAILER OFF IT, EVEN. THAT'S A RARE OCCASION. SO ONCE THE WAREHOUSE CLOSES ABOUT 8 30 IS WHEN IT CLOSES AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES LEAVE NINE O'CLOCK OR SOMETHING. IT'S BASICALLY SHUT DOWN. AT THAT POINT, THERE'S NOBODY FUNCTIONING. THEY'RE GREAT. THANK YOU. CLOSING HOURS ARE 8 30. THAT'S AS LATE AS IT STAYS OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND SIX O'CLOCK ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, CORRECT. I WOULD QUICK QUESTION. THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE, SO BUILDING OF THIS SIZE GENERALLY HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ON AVERAGE, UM IS IT WILL BE THE IN THAT IN THE BUILDING ON ANY GIVEN DAY. ON ANY GIVEN DAY. THAT COULD BE UP TO ABOUT 101 110, DEPENDING ON SHIFTS HAVE ABOUT 150 TO 200 EMPLOYEES. 50% OF FULL TIME 50% OF PART TIME. AND IT RAMPS UP AS THE RED AND HE HAS THE SALES RAMP UP. INITIALLY, THEY'LL PROBABLY START OFF ABOUT 150. THEN THE BIKERS HAVE 100 110 IS , YOU KNOW IT'S A SATURDAY AFTERNOON. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A PEAK TIME. THANK YOU GO ON BACK QUICKLY TO THE LOADING DOCKS. AND WHEN THE TRUCKS COME IN, AND UNLOAD AND LOAD. UM HAVE YOU GUYS EVER IN ANY OF YOUR OTHER LOCATIONS HAD A STIPULATION PUT ON NEW FOR TIME FRAMES THAT IT COULD NOT HAVE A TRUCK COME IN PRIOR TO FIVE A.M. OR PRIOR TO SIX A.M. OR IS THAT NEVER BEEN ADDRESSED IN ANY OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT. I'VE BEEN WORKING AT COSTCO FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW. UM BUT GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED OVER COVID OBVIOUSLY THAT THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS OUT THE WINDOW. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS TIMES WHERE DELIVERIES WERE JUST, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, TRUCKING ISSUES. IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAD TO BE TAKEN[00:35:04]
WHEN THEY WERE COMING IN. UM YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S MORE UNDER CONTROL. NOW. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S MORE REGULAR AND AS RECENT SAID, WE CONTROL MOST OF OUR DELIVERIES. WE GET 10 TO 12 SEMIS A DAY AND THOSE WILL COME IN THAT MORNING PERIOD. AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE DAY, YOU MIGHT HAVE OTHER BOX TRUCKS. UPS TRUCKS RIGHT ABOUT ANOTHER 10 OF THOSE, SO IT'S USUALLY TALKING ABOUT 20 IN IN AND OUT THE DAY AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT COSTCO CAN ALSO CONTROL THEIR TRUCKS COMING IN. SO THERE IT'S TIME. IT'S A TIMED ARRIVAL TO THE SITE, SO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CLIMBING ON THE TRUCKS. CORRECT WE TRY NOT TO STACK STAGE TRUCKS OUT THERE. I CAN'T GUARANTEE 100% THAT WON'T HAPPEN, BUT GENERALLY WE DON'T WANT TO LINE A TRUCK SITTING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WAITING TO GET INTO THE DARK, SO WE JUST WANT TO GET HIM IN, UNLOADED AND THEN OUT OF THE WAY AND THEN GET THE NEXT ONE IN AND IN ALL THE ACTIVITIES HAPPENED COMING IN FROM THE WAREHOUSE. SO THE NICE THING ABOUT IS WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A HOME DEPOT OR ANOTHER TYPE OF BIG BOX USER, WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, MOVING PALLETS AROUND AND OUTSIDE TEMPORARY STORAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT GENERALLY COMES OUT OF TRUCK THAT GOES RIGHT ONTO THE FLOOR. HMM. COULD JUST SORRY. THIS IS NOT A HUGE DEAL.JUST CURIOUS. SO FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES, THAT'S THERE. COMING AND GOING, DO YOU STRUCTURE HOW THEY COME INTO THE PROPERTY AT ALL? DO YOU PERHAPS SAY PLEASE COME IN ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING USING THIS PLACE, PLEASE PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. DO YOU STRUCTURE THERE? THAT TRAFFIC AT ALL. YES DEFINITELY. DEFINITELY.
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA YOU KNOW FOR THE MEMBER COMFORT TO HAVE THE PARKING SPACES APPROPRIATELY. SO WHEN EMPLOYEES COMING IN THE MORNING FOR THE EARLY SHIFT, THEY COME IN THROUGH THE WAREHOUSE. SORRY, THE DARK AREA, SO THERE'S AN ENTRANCE OVER BY THE DARK AREA THAT THEY WERE COMING BECAUSE THE FRONT DOOR IS OBVIOUSLY LAUNCHED AT THAT TIME ONCE THE WAREHOUSES OPEN AS EMPLOYEES ARE COMING, AND THEY USUALLY COME THROUGH THE FRONT ENTRANCE. SO I WOULD ENVISION THOSE SPACES OF THE NORTH END OF THE SITE, YOU KNOW, BEING EMPLOYEE PARKING, UM , BEING THE FURTHEST AWAY IN THE DARK AREAS SO THE MORNING PEOPLE WOULD GO THERE? UM YOU KNOW, SO LET'S TURN OVER TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. BUT NOT JUST WHERE THEY PARKED BUT HOW THEY ENTER THE PROPERTY. I'M JUST CURIOUS. DO YOU DO YOU SAY HEY, USE THIS ENTRANCE AS OPPOSED TO THIS ENTRANCE? BECAUSE PERHAPS THIS IS THIS IS A STREET THAT'S FREQUENTED BY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE PROPERTIES RIGHT BEHIND, SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO USE THIS OTHER LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WIDER ENTRANCE OR I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO BECAUSE YOU KNOW 200 EMPLOYEES COMING AND GOING THAT ALONE WOULD ADD TO THE TRAFFIC, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IS THERE AND YOU WOULD HAVE MUCH MORE CONTROL OVER EVEN IF EVEN IF IT'S JUST FROM AN ADVICE, ADVISING THEM TO DO THIS, MAYBE YOU CAN CONTROL 60% OF THEM WILL DO IT. I'M JUST CURIOUS IS THAT AT ALL FACTOR INTO THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT TRAFFIC FLOW YEAH, TYPICAL ON A SITE LIKE THIS. I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING BECAUSE WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE ENTRANCES THROUGHOUT THE SITE, SO PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM THE EAST AND THEY WOULD. OBVIOUSLY I WAS. IT WAS ME. I'D BE TURNING IN THAT MIDDLE ENTRANCE OFF OF 3 80, THEN TRAVELING NORTH AND GOING AROUND THE BUILDING. IF I'M COMING FROM THE WEST, UM YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GO TO THE SAME ENTRANCE. IF WE GET A LEFT. TURN IN THERE OR YOU TURN ON THE LIGHT AND GOT 13 85. AND COMING OFF OF THAT MAIN ENTRANCE ON 13 85. SO I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, LET'S HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT YOU'RE DRIVING RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS I CAN'T THINK OF ONE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO RESTRICT PEOPLE'S ACCESS. AT THAT POINT, I DOUBT IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN. UM AND THEN JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE IN THE NUMBER EMPLOYEES THE EARLY MORNING HOURS IS PROBABLY IN THE 50 TO 60 RANGE. SO THE YOU KNOW THE MAXIMUM 110 SOMETHING LIKE THAT DURING THE DAY. THAT'S THAT'S THE RAMP UP. YOU KNOW, AS THE SHIFTS ARE COMING AND GOING, AND THAT'S LIKE RIGHT AT THAT PEAK TIME ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON, SO IT'S REALLY JUST YOU KNOW, THE 16 50 TO 60 IN THE MORNING RAMPS UP TO THE 100 DURING THE WEEK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY NOT THE SAME PEOPLE ON A SATURDAY AND THEN THE EVENING SHIFT, IT COULD BE BACK DOWN TO THE 60 PEOPLE. AT THE END OF THE DAY TO CLOSE UP THE STORE. THANK YOU. SO IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, I BELIEVE IT GOES TO COUNSEL THE 28TH CORRECT HELP FASTER! Y'ALL LOOKING TO MOVE ON THIS? WHAT WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE ? ARE WE LOOKING AT? TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION OR GOOD QUESTION. I THINK THE OPERATOR WOULD WANT TO OPEN IT SOONER THAN LATER. BUT WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THE ROAD WORK THAT'S HAPPENING AROUND US. SO 3 80 IS IMPACTING OUR SCHEDULE. WE DON'T WANT TO BE OPEN WHILE 3 80 IS FULLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION THE WAY IT IS NOW, SO WE WANTED TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S PERHAPS IN THE FINAL LANDSCAPING RESTORATION STAGE WHERE THAT'S ALL THE LANES ARE OPEN IN THE EAST WEST MOVEMENTS. UM SO THAT WOULD BE IDEAL AND THEN 13 85. AS I THINK DAN MENTIONED THAT'S NOT UNTIL 25 BEFORE IT PROBABLY STARTS, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND A SIGNAL OUT THERE SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY CONTROL THAT SCHEDULE SO LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS THAT
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WE PROBABLY WOULD START CONSTRUCTION EARLY 24, THEN TRY TO BE OPEN BY THE FALL OF 24.EVEN IF 3 80 IS LIKE I SAID, IS STILL BEING WRAPPED UP. WE FEEL THAT WE COULD OPEN WHILE THAT IS HAPPENING, UM 3 80 SHOULD BE GETTING CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETED IN FRONT OF THAT DISCUSSIONS.
THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING. YEAH. YEAH WE DO HAVE TO RELOCATE A NUMBER OF ROADS ON SITE AS A MENTION TO YOU KNOW, UTILITIES AND THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT THIS SUMMER. SO WE WANT TO GET THAT DONE AND OUT OF THE WAY, SO THE REST OF THE USERS DON'T HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT CONSTRUCTION WHILE WE'RE PUTTING OUR BUILDING UP, SO WE GET ALL THE ROADS RECONFIGURED, AND THEN WE JUST WORK IN THE SITE AREAS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW THAT WAS A CONSIDERATION FOR Y'ALL IN THE TIMELINE TO KIND OF WATCHING THAT CONSTRUCTION.TR ABSOLUTELY WE COULD OPEN SOONER WOULD HAVE BEEN SOONER. ALRIGHT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING? I THINK I DID HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, MAYBE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT LOT 19 IS THAT IN FLOODPLAIN FOUR EASTERN SIDE OF THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT NOT REALLY RELATIVELY COSTCO. THAT LOT 19 IS GOING TO HAVE TO WORK AND REMEMBER WHICH ONE IS NOT ONE THAT STARTS DEVELOPED. IT'S JUST WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THERE. YEAH, THAT'S IT'S PREDOMINANTLY FLOODPLAIN. IT'S HARD TO SAY ON THAT ONE. THE ALMOST ALL THAT LOT IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN. IT'S BELIEVED DEDICATED AS AN OPEN SPACE LOT AND THE TRAIL GOES THROUGH THERE . HOPEFULLY LINKING UP WITH WHAT HAPPENS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WEST. UH WESTWARD CROSSING SO . YES FOR LIFE. BETTER THAT FIGURED IT WAS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SO, UM, QUESTION ON THE REST OF THE PROPERTY. SO THANKS, COSTCO FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF IT IN TERMS OF TIMING ON THE DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU ON THE REST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURES THAT ARE OUTLINED HERE OUTSIDE OF THE COSTCO SINCE THEY'RE TALKING, MAYBE TWO YEARS WHEN 13 WHEN THREE EIGHTIES FIXED. WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF IT WHEN YOU FORESEE STARTING THOSE? WELL, A GOOD BIT OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN THE GROUND AS IT SITS TODAY. UM YOU KNOW, THE ENTERTAINMENT PAD THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED, UM, AS WELL AS ALL THE PAD SITES ALONG THE FRONTAGE, UM YOU KNOW, I CAN MAYBE POINT THROUGH IT ON HERE. WHAT EXISTS IF YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN BY SAYING, BUT THE REST OF THE YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING THAT YOUR PADS, THE PADS, SITES ALONG THE FRONTAGE WOULD STILL BE MARKETED AS THEY GO, UM, THE ORANGE MULTI FAMILY PHASE ONE HAS BEEN SOLD, SO WE NO LONGER CONTROL THAT PIECE. I'M NOT AWARE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE AT THE MOMENT. YOU DO HAVE THE HOTEL IN GREEN, THE RETAIL STRIP NEXT TO THE HOTEL EIGHT AND NINE OR UNDERWAY. I WOULD IMAGINE THE THREE TRACKS IN BETWEEN THE TWO DRIVEWAYS OUT. UM WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED. THERE'S CERTAINLY BEING MARKETED, UM YOU KNOW, WE THINK THERE WOULD BE THERE'S SOMEWHAT STANDALONE FROM COSTCO. A LOT OF FOLKS WE DO WORK FOR A DIFFERENT GAS USER AND SOME OF THEIR THEY'LL LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND THE STORE DOES GREAT FOR ABOUT 18 MONTHS.
WELL THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT RIGHT ALONG, SO A LOT OF FOLKS LIKE THAT TO KIND OF ENERGIZE THE START UP. UM BUT THE REMAINING LOTS ALONG 13 85. THOSE WOULD BE, UM, KIND OF COMING AFTER COSTCO COMES IN. YOU CAN SEE THOUGH IT PREDOMINANTLY IS JUST THIS LOT.
18 ARE, UM THAT'S THAT'S REALLY AFFECTED UP THERE AT THE CORNER KIND OF A RETAIL OUT PARCEL WHERE YOU COULD HAVE SOME LESSER INTENSE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TYPE USERS THAT COULD PLAY OFF THE TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S CASCO STARTS AND PEOPLE SEE THAT THEY'RE GONNA THEY'RE GONNA BRING A LOT OF ACTIVITY TO THE CENTER THAT YOU KNOW YOU SEE HERE AT GATES OR AT OTHER SPOTS WHERE YOU GOTTA ONE DEVELOPMENT MAKE THREE OR FOUR STOPS AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO, UM I THINK THAT GETS YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING.
ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS POINT SO THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ADAM. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENT. REQUEST FORMS HERE. IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK AT THIS TIME, ALL THAT I ASK IF YOU DO, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. WELCOME I AM CATHERINE ASHLEY. I LIVE AT 9 60, WESTMORELAND.
IMPOSSIBLE TEXAS AND YOU GET EMAILS WITH WE ARE PART OF THE BOARD AT GLEN BROOKE COSTCO HAS BEEN VERY POLITE NG WORKING WITH US AND PROTECT US, WE WERE UNAWARE THAT THERE WAS ANY CHANGES TO THE BARRIER AT THE, UH, APARTMENT LEVEL. AH! WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT WAS SOLD IN THAT THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM FROM NOISE OR LIGHT POLLUTION.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR PAGE FOR THAT THEY ARE ASKING TO CHANGE THAT BARRIER, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE WHERE WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THE EXTENT ALSO HAVE AN EXTENDED WHILE BECAUSE THE
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MAJORITY OF THE APARTMENT PARKING BACK FOR THE APARTMENTS BACKS UP TO SOMEBODY. YES, SOMEBODY TELLS US WHICH IS LIKE IN AN APARTMENT 24 7. SO YOU CAN CAN YOU PULL UP? MAYBE A VISUAL.CAN BE LOUD IF YOU WANT. I WAS A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER, BUT ANYWAY AS YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING FOR THE APARTMENTS, BACKS UP TO PEOPLE'S HOMES AND EXCELLENT BOOK REDIVIDE, AND WE HAVE OPEN FENCES, ACCORDING TO PROSPEROUS COATS, SO WE HAVE OPEN FENCES AND YOU WANTING TO BASICALLY HAVE LIKE AN AIRPORT'S DROP AND GO PEE. RIGHT BEHIND SOMEBODY'S HOUSE. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE CAR DOORS, LIGHTS, PEOPLE STANDING OUT THERE TALKING. WITH JUST GREENERY. TO PROTECT THEIR HOUSES. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING IS BEHIND THERE. SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THEY'RE BEING MASONRY WALL TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS. UM. OH THERE'S A LICENSING AGREEMENT FOR KENT. WHICH I KNOW THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO. CHANGE OVER TO THE AGE OF EIGHT TO MAINTAIN. WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU REQUIRE HIM TO HAVE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT DESIGN IT WHERE IT'S DROUGHT RESISTANT, AND ALSO A CLAUSE. THAT IF THE CITY OR WHOEVER TAKES THE RIGHT AWAY DAMAGE, ISN'T IT? THEY WILL. MAKE IT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL.
WHERE IT WAS BEFORE IT WAS DAMAGED, SO TO RESTORE IT. UM. I THINK I'VE COVERED IT ALL. BUT THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS THERE. IN A I GUESS FOR LIKE, POINT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE. YES, SIR. BETWEEN THIS PARKING LOT BACK HERE. THOSE ARE HOUSES WITH OPEN FENCING. OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT. IT'S JUST AS BAD AS HAVING 24 7. BECAUSE YOU'RE AN APARTMENT. AND IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PARKING FOR THE APARTMENTS EXCEPT FOR BACK THERE. AGAINST PEOPLE'S HOUSES. IS THERE A TRAIL THAT RUNS THERE? RIGHT NOW . THERE IS IT CONNECTS ALSO A CONNECTS INTO WHERE COSTCO IS PUTTING THE WALL. SO THAT'S ONE WALKING TRAIL, WHICH THE MAINTAINS AND THEN BOWS AND EVERYTHING FOR OUR RESIDENTS, SO WE DO MAINTAIN THE AREA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME.
APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. JAMES DUNBAR, 56 20 COLCHESTER DRIVE PROSPER, UM I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE BOARD HAVE LIVED IN GRILL LINDBERGH'S FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW, SO IT WAS KIND OF EXCITING TO SEE A COSTCO COMING TO TOWN, AND, UH, AT LEAST COME INTO THE AIR. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A MUCH MORE USEFUL RETAIL SPACE FOR US, THEN SOME APARTMENTS. AH, PERSONALLY.
UM YOU KNOW, THANKS TO COSTCO FROM INVITING US IN GETTING KIND OF COMMENT AND INFORMING US OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AND LISTENING TO OUR FEEDBACK AND STUFF ABOUT THE WALL, SO VERY PUMPED TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING TO PUT THAT WALLET ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
I THINK SOMETHING THAT CATHERINE WAS GOING TO. YOU KNOW WHAT CATHERINE IS KIND OF MISSION IS IT'S OUR GOAL TO GET THAT WALL AGAINST THE FULL PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE EAST SIDE WAS KIND OF STILL THIS GREEN SPACE AND STUFF. IT'S OUR INTENT TO GET THAT FOR WHAT BUT I GUESS IN THIS THIS INSTANT TONIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COSTCO SIDE.
RIGHT? SO WE APPRECIATE THEM. FOR THAT. MY OTHER ONLY POINT WOULD BE FOR THE DELIVERIES OF THE TRUCKS. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAY SPACE ON ON WHAT EXACT TIMEFRAMES YOU'LL. MAYBE FIVE, MAYBE SIX. A.M. MAYBE FOUR. IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE A MORE DEFINITE TIMELINE ON THAT, LIKE PAPER. WE WON'T HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE FIVE, AND THAT WAY WE CAN SHARE WITH RESIDENTS AND YOU SEE SOMETHING FOR 30 OR FOUR O'CLOCK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT THERE, BUT IT'S THAT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT GREAT. WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT FIRMED UP A LITTLE BIT. OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I THINK OVERALL THE WE HAVE A SUPPORT FOR ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS THIS EVENING.
THANKS, JANE. GOOD EVENING. I'M DONALD CRAWFORD. 951 ENGLISH IVY DRIVE ENGLAND, BROOKE. AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED. SOMEWHERE WITH WEST SIDE SINCE THE INCEPTION. MYSELF AND TWO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. I WAS A BOARD MEMBER. UH AND THEN RIGHT BEFORE JAMESON TO BUILD PROBABLY 2014 THROUGH 2020. UM, SO WE MET WITH MR FANNIN BEGAN HOME INCEPTION OF THIS. THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD ABOUT THERE MIGHT BE A CHANGE TO THAT KENT DEAD END. UM, RIGHT THERE ON CRESTWOOD.
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AND THE PLANS ALL ALONG. THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT MR BANNON WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT WE'RE GOING TO PLANT THE PLANT WAS GOING TO WALK THROUGH. THERE WAS GOING TO BE A GATE YOU KNOW TO COME THROUGH FOR THAT SO IN THAT CHANGING THIS FIRST I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT. UM AT FIRST AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I SAW THE CHANGES THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE THE COSTCO YOU KNOW, AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. I'M A COSTCO MEMBER. BUT I WAS DEAD SET AGAINST IT. I'M CHANGING MY MIND. YOU KNOW, I REALLY HAVE WITH WHAT? WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND WHAT? THEIR WHAT? JAMES AND I HAVE WORKED OUT WITH THE WALL. FABULOUS GLAD TO SEE IT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WITH THE OTHER SIDE HEARING THAT EXCUSE ME WITH MR BANNON AND THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD THE APARTMENTS AND WHATEVER, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF OR DO THE BUILDING OF THAT IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THAT WALL ALL THE WAY ACROSS. I MET WITH A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS DOWN ON THAT END WAY BACK IN THE DAY. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE THAT HAVE SMALL CHILDREN, DOGS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND AS YOU WELL KNOW THE BOTHERING BUILDING CODE IN PROSPER TO WHERE IT IS. IF YOU'RE ON A WALKING PATH OR RECREATIONAL, EVERY GREEN BEER, YOU KNOW, IT'S OPEN WIRE FENCING . I WILL WALK THAT WHOLE PATH DOWN AROUND THE DOUGH CREEK UP INTO PROSPER INTO WINDSONG RANSOMED BACK AROUND. LITERALLY, PROBABLY 3534 DAYS A WEEK. THE DOGS. BETTER OUT AND. HEY PEOPLE OWN DOGS. I'VE GOT THREE. OKAY SO WHEN YOU GET ALL THOSE CARS IF THERE'S NOT SOME KIND OF WALL OR BARRIER IN THERE, YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE CONSTANT NOISE WITH APARTMENTS. EVERYTHING SO I'M JUST LIKE THEY ARE MORE IN FAVOR OF A FULL SHELTER WALL. APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. ANYONE ELSE THIS EVENING DURING OUR PUBLIC HEARING? I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING, AND, UH DAVID. ONE THING I WANT TO MAYBE ASK STAFF HERE RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE JUST HEARD, AND MAYBE SOME DISCUSSIONS THERE . SO WITH THE APARTMENT PARKING NEXT TO THOSE HOMES, THEY'RE KIND OF MAYBE IN ENLIGHTEN US THERE. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TODAY AND WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS AROUND THAT AND ALL? SO YOU'RE SAYING AROUND, SO I THINK I NEED TO GET A POINTER, BUT I THINK WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. I'M RIGHT TALKING ABOUT FROM HERE. THESE HOUSES AND YOU GET THIS PARKING POLICE DEPARTMENT CITY, SO IT LOOKS LIKE 25 FT TREES, BUT ANY WALKWAY IN HERE BUT HOW DOES THAT LOOK? AND I GUESS THEY HAVE OPEN FENCING THAT'S FACING TRAIL WALKWAY. YEAH SO AGAIN, TYPICALLY WHEN A RESIDENTS BACK ON AND OPEN, YOU KNOW SPACE, THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT IRON FENCE OF THE OPEN SPACE. FRANCINE SO AGAIN, THERE'S THAT RATHER THAN FINS THAT RUNS ALONG THERE. THE TRAIL THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE AND THEN WITHIN ON THIS SIDE, UM THERE'S A DOUBLE, UM, ROLE OF LIVE OAK TREES THAT THEIR PRESENTING AS WELL AS NEARLY R. STEVENS SORT OF STAGGERED TO CREATE SORT OF A BUFFER AND AS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE DO REQUIRE A WALL BETWEEN NON RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. PNG CAN WAIVE THAT REQUEST, UM, LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL P D THAT WAS ESTABLISHED, AND, UM ALL OF US THAT WAS MENTIONED WAS A LIVING SCREEN. SO AGAIN, UM, WE DO, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW. THAT'S WHAT WHAT IS HERE FOR TODAY. IF WE'RE FOR PNG TO DETERMINE IF THAT'S SUITABLE, UM TYPICALLY, UM AGAIN, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DID WORK A LOT WITH COSTCO TO SORT OF CREATE THAT STAGGERING.I'M NOT AN ARGUMENT OR ANYTHING , BUT THEY DID PROVIDE SORT OF A MEASURE OF SORT OF CREATION AND ENHANCEMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT THE PD 94 ORIGINALLY HAD. SO IS THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION IN THIS ONE.
AND I MEAN OR IS THAT THE MEDIA'S ANOTHER PART OF THE PD LATER ON WORK, SO ADJUSTMENT HERE, SO YES, IT IS. IT COULD. IT IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT, UM IT'S PART OF THE P D 94 AMENDMENT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. WE'RE FOCUSING ON COSTCO, BUT THEY DID HAVE OTHER STANDARDS. I WOULD JUST REFER TO THE APPLICANT SINCE THERE'S MULTIPLE OWNERS. ON THE PROPERTY. WE'VE RECEIVED ALL APPLICATIONS. FROM EVERY OWNER, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY GALY. BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO TALK TO ABOUT THAT CHANGE. LET'S JUST SAY THAT THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THAT LIVING MALL. DOES THAT ALLOW THEM TO CHANGE? THEY'RE FENCING REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO CHANGE OF THEM RAN ON TO UH YEAH. OFFENSE.
TALKING ABOUT HIS EXAMPLE WITH THE DOGS WALKING THROUGH. YOU KNOW. NOW IT'S THE DOGS COULD SEE THROUGH AND HEAR THE NOISE. AND IT IS GOING TO BE BARKING, BARKING BARKING, SO IF WE DON'T
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GET A WALL, WHAT'S THE PROPERTY? OWNERS CHANCE TO SWITCH IT FROM MURANO. UM ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON THE RESIDENTS SIDE? ARE YOU TALKING? SO AGAIN? THAT'S NOT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT'S CODE.OKAY? YEAH SO AGAIN, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS ON OPEN FENCING OF YOUR RECALL. UM THEY COULD REQUEST SOME SORT OF VARIANTS. IF THEY DO WANT TO, UM , YOU KNOW, PROSPER DEFINITELY LIKES THAT OPEN SPENT OPEN SPACE BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE EVERYWHERE WITHIN THE TOWN AND PROSPER. BUT WE DO ALLOW A VARIANCE THAT, UM , IT'S IF SO, AND SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CONTRADICT THE QUESTION DIFFERENTLY THEN DEPARTMENT EXISTED JUST LIKE THIS, BUT THE HOUSES HAD NOT EXISTED. AND WE WERE BUILDING THE HOUSES. WHAT WOULD THE FENCING REQUIREMENT BE? THEN IF THE APARTMENT WAS PLANNED, BUT THE HOUSES WEREN'T BUILT. HOUSES WEREN'T BUILT DEPARTMENT WAS THERE. WHAT WOULD THE FENCING REQUIREMENT NOW? BEING INSTEAD OF RIGHT IRON LIKE IT IS TODAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. HOW THIS CHANGES THEIR VIEW THEIR BACKYARD SO AGAIN IF THE RESIDENTS ARE THE RESIDENTS AREN'T BUILT. UM AND AGAIN. IF IT'S NONRESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, WE WOULD STILL WANT SOME SORT OF SCREENING DEVICE. THAT'S A LIVING SCREENING OR A SCREENING WALL. IT'S TALKING ABOUT FOR THE WELL, LET ME REPHRASE IT AGAIN BECAUSE MAYBE I'M NOT ASKING RIGHT? ASSUME THE APARTMENT COMMUNITY WAS THERE. THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS WEREN'T YET BUILT. DOUG BACKYARD HAD A SITUATION LIKE THIS A FEW YEARS AGO. AND THEY WANTED TO CHANGE. WOULD YOU REMEMBER THIS? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. I'M JUST TRYING TO. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO COME IN, AND THEY WANTED TO COME IN AND PUT WOOD FENCES IT INSTEAD OF THE BROAD IRON AND THE CONSENSUS WAS ALL THROUGHOUT, EVEN WITH COUNCIL. YEAH, YEAH, BUT THAT THAT WAS FIRST STREET. YEAH AND IT WAS LIKE, NO SORRY. THE REQUIREMENT IS THE WROUGHT IRON OPEN FENCES . THAT IS WHAT THE DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE IT WAS OPENING UP DIFFERENT FRONTIER PARK RESIDENTIAL YEAH, LIKE THE APARTMENT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK THIS ONE. I THINK THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THIS, BECAUSE IF I CAN SHARE SO THERE'S TWO SIDE BY SIDE 50 FT OPPORTUNITY. REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT EASEMENTS 1 50 FT FALLS ON GLENBROOK THAT IS THEIR OPEN SPACE. THAT IS THE TRIGGER FOR THE OPEN FENCING BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE GLENBROOK DEVELOPMENT. SO THE OPEN SPACE WHERE THE TRAIL FALLS IS PART OF GLENBROOK IS THEREFORE TRIGGERS THE OPEN FENCING ON THEIR SIDE. THERE'S ADDITIONAL 50 FT ON THE WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT. UM AND THEY'RE SAYING AND THEY'RE SAYING OFTEN THEY'RE PUTTING THIS PROPOSED MASONRY WALL LEAST ALONG THE RETAIL SIDE ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT EASEMENT. BUT THE OPEN SPACE LEAD THE COMMON AREA IS WHAT'S TRIGGERING THE OPEN SPACE. THANK YOU OKAY? YEAH. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO QUICK QUESTION. SO CHANGING IT FROM A. BUT I'M SAYING QUICKLY THE LIVING SCREEN TO A MASONRY WALL. THAT'S OFF THE TABLE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. SO SO IT IS PART OF THE AMENDMENT SO IT IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. UM AGAIN. THERE'S MULTIPLE OWNERS IN THIS AND WE WERE JUST WANNA JUST MAKE SURE BUT YES, IT IS OPEN AS PART OF THIS PD 94 AMENDMENT, OKAY? DO WE KNOW WHO ARE WE GOING TO HEAR FROM? THE, UM THE OWNER OF THE APARTMENT BUILDING SIDE, I'LL REFER TO, UM, DEVELOPER SCIENTIST TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT AND THAT AND THEY WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBLE FOR CHANGING THAT FROM THE LIVING SCREEN TO A MAINSTREAM. PART OF THIS AMENDMENT THEY WOULD FOLLOW WOULD BE A ZONING REQUIREMENT AND AGAIN, OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM YOU. OKAY CAN I ASK REAL QUICK BEFORE YOU START GOING INTO THAT? YOU YOU IT'S FINE. YOU CAN COME ON UP BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY ANSWER THIS. COSTCO SHOWED A REALLY GOOD ELEVATION FROM THE WEST LOOKING OR FROM THE WEST, LOOKING EAST WITH REGARDS TO THE EASEMENTS AND SETBACKS, AND THEN THEY WERE GOING TO BURN IT UP. 34 FT, THEN PUT PLANTS ON TOP OF TREES. DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF ELEVATION THAT'S CUT? SIDE ELEVATION THAT ARE YOU PLANNING ON BIRMINGHAM ON TOP OF THE TREE OR HAVING THE TREES THERE THEN BIRMINGHAM AND MAYBE PUTTING BUSHES AS WELL. SO IN A HEADLIGHT COMES IN THE PARK FACING THE BACKYARD ARE THOSE HEADLIGHTS OF ALBEIT A UP TRUCK? ARE THOSE HEADLIGHTS BLOCKED BY BUY BOX WOODS OR WHATEVER, ON TOP OF A BERM. A COUPLE OF ELEMENTS TO THAT. I KNOW THAT SCREENING OF HEADLIGHTS IS REQUIRED. JUST IN GENERAL ACROSS THE TOWN. WE DO NOT HAVE A NICELY ILLUSTRATED SECTION ON BEHALF OF THAT THIRD PARTY OWNER WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT. UM IT IS THE HOTEL DEVELOPER FOR LACK OF LIKE, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE THE HOTEL DEVELOPER PURCHASE MULTI FAMILY AS WELL. WE DO NOT HAVE A SCREENING EXHIBIT LIKE THIS SHARE WITH YOU ALL YOU KNOW, WE'RE YOU KNOW, IN OUR MINDS AS AS WE'VE KIND OF VIEWED THIS, AS
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YOU KNOW, WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY NOT CHANGING PHASE ONE, AND YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE COME UP WITH ELIZABETH AND JAMES DURING THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BASED ON SOME UPDATED FEEDBACK. YOU KNOW, THEY HAD, I GUESS DIFFERENT INPUT THAN WHAT MR FANNIN RECEIVED FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH RESPECT TO THIS ISSUE SPECIFICALLY, AND SO WHAT'S IN THE P D IS A DOUBLE ROW OF EVER GAINED TREES ON 50 FT CENTERS. AND SO WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO MODIFY THAT WITH THIS. OUR REQUEST WOULD BE THAT WE WOULDN'T REOPEN THE CAN OF WORMS FOR LACK OF BIGGER TERM. HMM. JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT THAT PARTY IS NOT HERE TODAY TO SPEAK TO IT IS FAR AS PROCEDURALLY IF THERE IS A CHANCE FOR AT SOME POINT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE YOU ALL COULD PULL THIS AND RAISE THAT ISSUE. I'D HAVE TO TALK WITH DAVID AND STAFF. DOOR IF YOU FELT LIKE THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE AD OR INAPPROPRIATE SWAMP. UM WE'D ADDRESS IT AT A LATER POINT. BUT I SAID TO TELL YOU THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE NICE IMAGES AND THINGS BECAUSE WE'RE MORE FOCUSED ON THAT PIECE TO THE WEST OF KENT. UM I KNOW YOU KNOW, WE DID. YOU KNOW IT HAS BEEN MODIFIED. IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PD . WE'VE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. THAT OWNER WAS, YOU KNOW, HE WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF A SOLID WALL OF MASONRY WALL. AND SO IT'S SOMEWHAT ENHANCED. WHAT'S IN THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT FROM THE EXISTING PD? BUT HIS YOU KNOW FEEDBACK WAS THAT HE WAS OPPOSED TO THAT. ON HIS SIDE OF THINGS. AND HE DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY OTHER DETAILS AS TO WHY OR UM OKAY, SO IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S COST. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A GATED FACILITY ANYWHERE ELSE. YOU KNOW , YOU BUILD A FENCE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER FENCE. 25 FT AWAY THAT OTHER FRANCIS OFFENSE THAT YOU LOOK RIGHT INTO EVERYBODY'S BACKYARD AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE WOOD FENCE AND JUST TREES. YOU'VE GOT OPEN RAIL FENCING. THAT'S ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE FT. HIGH. AND THEN YOU GOT PEOPLE LOOKING AT. I KNOW YOU'RE PUTTING EVERGREENS UP, BUT THEY DIE TO HER POINT TO THAT IF IT'S NOT MAINTAINED PROPERLY. I MEAN, I GET IT THAT THE DEVELOPER DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY, BUT WELL AND INTO THE SAME POINT THIS OR THIS. THIS EXISTING CONDITION IS WHAT WAS AGREED TO AMONG DEVELOPERS AND STAFF, YOU KNOW, 2.5 YEARS AGO OR SO. SO SOME OF THIS IS AN UPDATED CHANGE. BUT IT ALSO IS WHAT WE ALL YOU KNOW. IN 2019 2020 AGREED AS THIS IS SUFFICIENT LANDSCAPING BETWEEN THE TWO I GET 15 YEARS AGO, 15,000 UNITS OF APARTMENTS WAS OKAY TO NOW IT'S 6200 THIS TOWN SO THINGS CHANGE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND SO ON THIS SECTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT THE OLD LAYOUT VERSUS THE PROPOSAL. IT WAS. IS THERE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THIS SECTION? RELATIVES OF THOSE PARKING SPACES AND THE BACK OF THAT. SUBDIVISION. AND I GUESS I NEED TO SEE WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION AGAIN. I'M SORRY, SO I JUST NEED TO SEE THE ORIGINAL P D. I GUESS I WAS TRYING TO SEE YES. SO FROM FROM THIS LINE THAT RUNS KIND OF FACING IN THE ORIGINAL P D TO THE BACK OF THOSE HOUSES. THAT'S RIGHT, SO FROM FROM A FEW KIND OF PROJECT KENT TO THE SOUTHWEST, NOTHING HAS CHANGED TO THE EAST SIDE OF THAT ONE PAGES CROPPED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY. THE PROPERTY LINE HAS BEEN ADJUSTED, BUT THAT'S THE SAME LAYOUT BUILDINGS CHANGED FROM PD ONE APPROVED THIS ONE TONIGHT ON THAT, NOT ON THAT THAT PIECE, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING. I APPRECIATE IT. WELL I THINK BEFORE WE SEND IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION, I JUST WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY INVOLVED. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BEST GRAPHICS OF THAT BERM AND BARRIER BETWEEN COSTCO. GREAT JOB. I WISH EVERY MEETING WE HAD WAS THAT DETAILED IN THAT PRETTY AND I MEAN THAT THAT WAS A GREAT VISUAL. SO THANK YOU APPRECIATE THE CITIZENS BEING HERE THIS EVENING. AND THE TOWN STAFF FOR ALL THEY DID. SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO THROW IT BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND MR VAN WOLF. WE'LL START WITH YOU AND WE'LL KIND OF JUST ALL CHIME IN AND SEE WHERE WE GO. SURE. THANK YOU. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR WITH YOUR COMMENT. CHAIRMAN. I THINK THAT IT REPRESENTED VERY WELL. I HAVE NO CONCERNS WITH THE COSTCO PROJECT. THEY'VE MADE EVERY REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION THAT'S BEEN ASKING. IT SEEMS LIKE THE HOMEOWNERS ARE FROM THE BORDER HAPPY WITH THE ACCOMMODATION. I DO LIKE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME SORT OF TIME FRAME WINDOW TO LIMIT DELIVERIES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE SOMETHING AS A TOWN RIGHT NOW. THAT HAS REQUIREMENTS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO AS A INDEPENDENT PEACE WITH THIS PD, OR IF IT'S SOMETHING AT A DIFFERENT TIME AS PART OF THE COMPLAINT OR SOMETHING ELSE WE LOOK AT YEAH, SO I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION TO HAVE SO RIGHT NOW THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE HOURS OF OPERATION. I KNOW OTHER CITIES. DO WE DO HAVE AN HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION. UM, SO IT'S LIKE, SEVEN. AM 17. YEAH, AND THEN WE ALSO DO HAVE IF THERE'S[01:05:02]
ANY, UM, UH, NUISANCE OF NOISE LOADING DOCKS. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE CAPTURE IT. SORT OF.THERE IS A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE'S AT THREE AM AND HERE THAT THE BEEPING SOUND OF THE TRUCKS OR SOMETHING, UM, THE TOWN COULD POTENTIALLY THAT'S CONSIDERED A NUISANCE FOR THE TOWN AND THE TOWN WOULD THEN TALK TO YOU, COSTCO TO SEE HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO SORT OF MITIGATE THAT OR CHANGE THAT FROM 6 TO 6? AM SURE. OKAY. AS OF NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN ANY OF THE PDS THAT ACTUALLY PUT THAT EXACT TIME. OKAY NOW THAT MAKES SENSE AND AGAIN, I THINK REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION. OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT TIMES. BUT IF WE CAN CONTROL OR HELP WITH THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY THING. THE COSTCO PIECE I AGREE WITH. IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THE SHARED SENTIMENT WITH THE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ONE THING IF IT'S JUST HOMES OR APARTMENTS, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THEN THIS LARGE PARKING LOT FACING HIS OTHER COMMUNITY, I CAN RESPECT THE HOMEOWNERS CONCERNS THAT WE NEED SOME SORT OF WALL. SO YOU KNOW WHERE I WHERE I AM, AT LEAST WHERE MY VIEWPOINT IS. I LIKE THE COSTCO PROJECT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME FOOTAGE, SOME SORT OF SCREENING WALL TO MATCH THE MULTI FAMILY TO MAKE CONSISTENT WITH COSTCO IS DOING THAT'S MY KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD IS WITH IT. SO I, UH I'M AN OWNER OF A NEUROTIC BOXER AND I ONE POINT IN TIME. BACKED UP TO PROSPER TRAIL AND COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENTS OF THE DOGS BARKING AND RUNNING UP AND DOWN AND IT'S ALL DAY AND OPENING THE DOOR AND LETTING THE DOG IN LETTING THE DOG OUT. SO I TOTALLY, UM IMAN BOARD WITH WHERE THE HOMEOWNERS ARE IS BREAKFAST FAR AS REQUIRING SOME SORT OF MASONRY WALL OR BRICK WALL. INTO FOR CONTINUITY. I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT BE KIND OF GOOFY TO HAVE A WALL AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT'S JUST GREENERY. IT'S JUST I THINK FOR CONTINUITY, PURPOSES.
UM, I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE A REQUIREMENT. UM, I THINK IT COST THE PROJECT IS GREAT. I THINK EVERYTHING THEY BROUGHT HERE WAS GREAT. AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE BETTER PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WELL. THE TRUTH IS, I WON'T BE HERE. BUT I CAN TELL YOU HOW IT IS. THANKS LET ME PICTURES BUT NO, I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE TOWN GETTING THE CASCO AND ACTUALLY SEEING THIS PROJECT PROGRESS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN THE MAKING NOW FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. I CONCUR WITH. EVERYONE ON THIS ON THE STORY OF THE LAST TWO HAS SPOKEN THE PANEL ABOUT, UM, ONBOARD WITH WITH I LOVE WHAT COSTCO HAS DONE, HOW THEY'VE DONE IT, HOW THEY PRESENTED IT. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT THAT SCREEN WALL FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO, UM, FOR THOSE REASONS OF, YOU KNOW, LATE NIGHT TALKS IN THE PARKING LOT OR WHATNOT, TO WHERE THEY HAVE SOME TYPE OF MASONRY WALL THAT CONTINUES DOWN ALONG AT LEAST THE LINK TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID AH! EXCITED TO SEE COSTCO COMING ACROSS BIRTH. THINK IT'D BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT, LIKE EVERYONE HAS SAID. IT'S BEEN IN THE MAKING FOR A WHILE, SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION. I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR THE CITIZENS. UM AND AGAIN, I HAVE TO ECHO THE ONE PIECE ABOUT THE LIVING SCREEN. THAT IS THE ONE PIECE NOW I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS THAT WE YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN TABLE A PIECE OF THIS SO THAT THE, UM OWNER CAN COME BACK AND THEN GIVE THEIR PERSPECTIVE AS TO WHY THEY WERE ASSUMED THAT IT'S A COST ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW. BUT, UM WELL, MAYBE JUST DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT. WE DON'T KNOW, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM COME BACK. WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION. UM AND THEN THAT WAY, THE RESIDENTS CAN ACTUALLY HEAR EXACTLY WHY THEY DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT IT'S IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE. AND IT'S THE ONE STICKING POINT. IT SEEMS I DIDN'T HEAR MUCH OF ANYTHING ELSE. BESIDES THAT ONE.
STICKING POINT WITH THE SOUND WITH THE SOUND WALL, UM WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE PERMANENT MASONRY WALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO, UM, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THAT CHANGE. UM AND, UH IN FAVOR OF THE COSTCO. SO CAN WE TABLE LIKE IT AS WE CONTINUE ON? IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? DAVID. I THINK IT IS. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ALL OR NOTHING SO AGAIN, UM, DO YOU CAN DO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS? YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATION IS POTENTIALLY THE LORD TO ADD TO ADD THE TOWN WALL TO MATCH. YOU KNOW, THE RETAIL SIDE? UM YOU WERE JUST TABLE THE WHOLE, UM THE WHOLE ITEM SO WE WOULD COME BACK. UM OR THAN THEN, OBVIOUSLY THAT THEY DENIED. SO THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE, UM MORE THAN HAPPY TO EVEN POTENTIALLY ASKED THE APPLICANT OR THE DEVELOPER TO COME BACK UP HERE AND JUST HAVE A QUICK CONVERSATIONS. THE UM, BUT WE CAN ALSO FINISH THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS INDICATED THIS SITUATION EARLIER. LET'S SEE ONE UNLESS YOU WANT TO COME UP, BUT I THINK I KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE AT WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS HERE INVOLVED, HUH? I MEAN, YEAH, JUST TO SPEAK TO THE
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TOPIC. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS THE ONE STICKING POINT. MY UM MY THOUGH MT IS TWOFOLD. E YOU KNOW THAT. OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS ARE FREE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR MASONRY WALL THAN SO BE IT. WE WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO REQUEST FORWARD BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM THAT OWNER WITH THE SCREENING THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED THE LIVING SCREEN. WE'LL HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THE 28TH. TO POINT OUT THAT THIS WAS A STICKING POINT. IF THERE'S A CHANGE TO BE MADE, WE CAN HANDLE IT DURING THAT TIME IF WE'RE STILL GOING TO CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THE LIVING SCREEN AS PRESENTED, UM YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH IN MY OPINION TABLING OF COSTCO BECAUSE THIS ONE ITEM CAN BE ADDRESSED IN FAIRLY SHORT ORDER AMONG THE PARTIES AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR A MODIFIED RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AND WE CAN REACT TO THAT ACCORDINGLY . SO I THINK WE'D BE IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION THIS EVENING AND THEN ADDRESSING IT DURING THE NEXT 3.5 WEEKS. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CHARLES I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT HAS BEEN SAID AND AGAIN, UM REALLY APPRECIATED THE PRESENTATION. I LIVE IN ONE SONG, RANCH THEM RIGHT THERE, SO I AM A MEMBER THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME TO GET THERE. I'M REALLY PLEASED TO HEAR HOW THAT SUBDIVISIONS AND YOU GUYS WORK TOGETHER THAT THAT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE BOTH FOR BOTH PARTIES. AND SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR REPRESENTING YOURSELVES AT THE H O A AS WELL AS THE AS THE COSTCO. I THINK COSTELLO'S PERFECT. JUST YOU CAN TELL THAT I WAS ALREADY ASKING THOSE SAME QUESTIONS. I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE BACK THERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 2019 PER SE. I DON'T RECALL SPECIFICALLY. UM WHY? THAT WASN'T EVEN CONSIDERED WHEN THE APARTMENTS WERE PUT IN , BUT WE'RE AT IT NOW AT A PLACE WHERE WE CAN MAYBE MAKE THAT CORRECTION, SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY MODIFICATION THAT I WOULD SUPPORT WOULD BE PERSONALLY RIGHT NOW WOULD BE THAT WALL EXTENDED. THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CHARLES AND FINALLY CHECK OR WHATEVER I SAID, GREAT PRESENTATION. I THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HIGH PERFORMANCE TEAMWORK WHERE THE COMMUNITY THE TOWN, THE APPLICANT ALL WORK TOGETHER, REALLY APPRECIATE IT KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT MOVING THIS FORWARD FOR SURE THIS EVENING. I KNOW THERE'S THIS LITTLE SEGMENT OF WALL AND I THINK THAT'S SOME VALID COMMENTS. ONE THING I'LL ADD TO THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ALTERING THE PD. SO THAT KIND OF OPENED IT UP. YOU KNOW TO MAKE SOME OF THESE CHANGES, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS THE EAST SIDE AND THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED INITIALLY APPROVED. BUT WITH THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD. THIS GOES TO COUNCIL ON THE 28TH OF FEBRUARY AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDING COMMENTS WERE RECOMMENDING BODY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY DETERMINES WHAT AND HOW IT MOVES FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS HERE ON ADAM, NUMBER FOUR. THAT MOTION ARE JOHNNY. YOU CAN ADD MOTION TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO TOWN STASH RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE MODIFICATION THAT THAT THAT LIVING WILL BE REPLACED WITH A WALL THAT MATCHES WHAT COSTCO HAS ALREADY PUT IN SO THAT THERE'S CONTINUITY WITH WHATEVER IS PUT IN THERE, AND THAT'S CLEAR ENOUGH FOR STAFF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SECTION WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, A SECOND. CAN I JUST ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? YOU'RE LEAVING? OKAY? I STILL HAVE A LOT OF DO WE WANT TO PUT ANYTHING IN THERE ABOUT TIME? LIMITING TIME, OKAY? SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER CHARLES TO APPROVE ADAM NUMBER FOUR AS SUBJECT TO TOWN STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. IN THE ADDITION OF THE SOLID WALL MASONRY WALL.BORDERING TO MATCH THE COSTCO WAL BORDERING THE PARKING LOT FROM THE APARTMENTS BACK TO THE SUBDIVISION. WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PETTIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THAT MOTION ITEM NUMBER FOUR. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 0. IT IS APPROVED. THANK YOU. THANKS EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. THANKS, EVERYONE. HEY, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. GOOD PRESENTATION. LOVE THOSE SLIDES . THEY WERE REALLY GOOD. ALRIGHT
[5. Conduct a Public Hearing, and consider and act upon a request to rezone 34.7± acres from Commercial Corridor District (CC) to a new Planned Development for Mixed Use, located northside of Prosper Trail and west of Dallas Parkway. (Z22-0019)]
I REALLY DO THIS THE BEST WE HAVE. ALRIGHT. I DON'T NUMBER FIVE. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON REQUEST TO REZONE 34.7 ACRES FROM COMMERCIAL COURT OR DISTRICT CC TO A NEW PLAN. DEVELOPMENT FOR MIXED USE, LOCATED NORTH SIDE OF PROSPER TRAIL AND WEST OF DALLAS PARKWAY . THIS IS CASEY 22-19. HMM. SO LIKE AS MENTIONED THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST WEST OF THE DNT. AND JUST NORTH OF THE SORRY PROSPER TRIAL. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR MIXED USE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO TWO SUB DISTRICTS THAT'S SHOWN ON THE POWER POINT THAT PROPOSED[01:15:04]
SUB DISTRICTS ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDISTRICT THAT'S IN THE DARKER GREEN. AND THE, UM HIGHWAY SUBDISTRICT, WHICH IS ALONG THE TOLLWAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDISTRICT UM WHEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER. UM, WE DID LOOK AT SORT OF HOW TO PROTECT AND MITIGATE THE DISTRICTS AND THE USES POTENTIALLY ON THE WEST SIDE.SO, AS YOU ALL KNOW, SHAWNEE TRAIL IS GOING TO GO NO EARTH, UM AND THEN LEGACY GARDEN IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO SORT OF EXPAND TO THE NORTH. HMM SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM THE AND ACTUALLY BEFORE I JUMP INTO THIS , OR I'M GONNA SHOW YOU AND YOU CAN FOLLOW MY MOUSE. UM THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDISTRICT THAT'S ADJACENT TO SHAWNEE TRAIL IS ACTING AS A AS A BUFFER AND A TRANSITION DISTRICT. UM TOWARDS THE RESIDENTS AGAIN. WE LOOKED AT SORT OF, UM, LESS INTENSE USES ALONG THIS SUBDISTRICT. YOU LOOKED AT THE HEIGHT. ALONG THE SUBDISTRICT BECAUSE WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS RESIDENTS, POTENTIALLY, MAYBE NOT AT THIS MOMENT. BUT IN THE FUTURE THERE WILL BE RESIDENTS, UM, JUST TO THE WEST ACROSS SHINING TRAIL. SO UH, AS ABOVE ARE SHOWN ON THE PRIVATE POWER POINT. I'M GOING TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE RIGHT SCREEN. UM AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS SORT OF A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED MIXED USE WHERE YOU HAVE TOWN HOMES LOCATED ON THE WESTERN SIDE WITH SOME SORT OF NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S HERE, UM, AS WELL AS A MIXED USE. UM APARTMENTS WITH, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE, LOOKING OR NON RESIDENTIAL LOCATED ON THE FIRST FLOOR. DO YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF GREEN SPACES? POTENTIAL HOTEL LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY AND A COUPLE OF OFFICES MIXED WITH MIXED USE AND A SADDAM RESTAURANT PATIO WITH THE DETENTION PONDS. OR UPON FEATURES. I'M SORRY. THERE ARE POTENTIAL FOR SELL CONDOS TOWARD THE NORTHERN SIDE. WE DO CLASSIFY THOSE AS MULTI FAMILY, BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE MIXED USED DEVELOPMENT. UM IS PROPOSING. UM MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LOCATED.
UM IN THIS EXHIBIT C, WHICH WAS PART OF THE ATTACHMENT FOR THE SONY REQUEST. DO YOU CONFORM TO THE TOWN ZONING. HOWEVER AGAIN, THE TOWN AND PROSPER DOESN'T HAVE A NEXT USE DISTRICT. THE CLOSEST THING THAT WE CAN GET IS OUR DOWNTOWN WE HAVE WHERE THE SETBACKS ARE SORT OF THE BUILDINGS UP TO THE FRONT TO SORT OF CREATE THAT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. AND SO, UM YOU KNOW, THEY IT IS VERY UNIQUE DESIGN. AND UM, THE PROPERTY IS BEING ALONG THE DALLAS NORTH TOLL WASTE APPLICANTS, PROVIDING SOME SOME DETAILED DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN STANDARDS. JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE SLIDES. THESE ARE JUST SOME RENDERINGS OF THE NEXT USE DEVELOPMENT. I'LL HAVE THE APPLICATION IS ALSO HERE, AND WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL. UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TOWN HOMES PRESENTED. I'M GONNA LOOK AT THIS IMAGE MORE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TOWN HOMES PRESENTED. YOU SEE THE MIXED USE WITH MAYBE POTENTIALLY FOR SALE CONDOS AND THEN SOME HIGH RISE. OFFICERS ALONG THE TOLLWAY AND AGAIN THIS IS A SHAWNEE ON THIS SIDE. UM AND THEN THE HALLWAY IS ON THAT SIDE . SO AGAIN, JUST SOME RENDERINGS JUST TO SHOW WHAT THE MIX POTENTIAL USES IS, UM, WHAT THE DEVELOPERS PRETENDING, PROPOSING? SO AS ALWAYS, I TRY TO DO A COMPARISON FOR SOME OF THE MAJOR HIGHLIGHTS FOR Y'ALL. UM I DID PROVIDE COMPARISON WILL JUST DIFFERENT. UM PROVISION THAT THEY REQUESTED. UM JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW AGAIN. THEY ARE PROPOSING AT LEAST DENSITY. IT'S KNOXY 33 UNITS, WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL 811 MULTI FAMILY UNITS. UM AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, THE TOWN DOES HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE MULTI FAMILY UNITS. UM YOU ALL HAVE NO THAT WE DO HAVE A COMMON PLAN THAT TALKS ABOUT THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY, WHICH IS AROUND 6500. SO WE DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH ADDITIONAL ALL KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER. UM, BUT ALSO PLEASE KNOW THAT THIS IS A LONG TIME AWAY. UM KIND OF WALKING THROUGH SOME OF THE COMPARISONS. UM THIS IS THE BASE STONING. THIS WAS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT THAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THE NEW PD, WHICH IS 12 STORIES AND THEN TOWN HOMES. THREE STORIES SO AGAIN.
UM POTENTIALLY TRYING TO ACT AS A THAT BUFFER THAT I MENTIONED ON THE WESTERN SIDE BECAUSE IT WAS IMPORTANT, UM, TO MITIGATE THAT TOWARDS ANY FUTURE RESIDENTS. BUILDING MATERIALS.
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UM, AGAIN, THEY TYPICALLY YOU ALL KNOW OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BUILDING A MAINSTREAM, UM THEY ALSO CREATED THEIR OWN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WHICH YOU CAN INCLUDE CURRENT WALL WINDOW WALL GLAZING, UM, METAL PANELS. THEY DID ADD TOWN HOMES TO SORT OF, UH, BE CONSTRUCTED IN NO LESS THAN 60% OF THE MAY THREE, SO THEY DID ADD THAT MASONRY AND AGAIN TO SORT OF ACTED AS THAT TRANSITION FROM THE WEST. UM PARKING REQUIREMENTS. UM TYPICALLY BASED ON OUR USE, WE WOULD REQUIRE SOMEWHAT, AND THIS IS JUST AN APPROXIMATE NUMBER BUT JUST AROUND 3800 PARKING SPACES. AGAIN WITH THE UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO LIVE WORK AND PLAY. UM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DID HAVE A 20% REDUCTION. UM THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED, UM AND AGAIN IF PEOPLE DO LIVE IN THOSE APARTMENTS, AND THEY WORK IN THOSE OFFICES DOESN'T HAVE THAT DEMAND FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING, BUT THERE ARE PROVIDING PARKING GARAGES AND THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO SORT OF GET THEM SCREENED. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE JUST PARTNER ROGERS ALONG THE TOW AWAY OR ALSO PARTNER GARAGES THAT YOU CAN SEE THE CARS THAT THEY ARE INCORPORATING THAT INTO THE DESIGN. OF THE, UM MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. I JUST INCLUDED THIS AS THE MULTI FAMILY UNITS, UM. SO SPEAKING ABOUT THE COM PLAN, AS YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE MULTI FAMILY UNITS, UM, THE MEXICAN PASSIVITY. UM THIS IS WITHIN OUR DALLAS, UM ARE ARE A TOTAL WEIGHT DISTRICT.UM AND SO AGAIN, IT'S THE PROPERTIES JUST LOCATED JUST RIGHT HERE WHERE THE CURSOR IS, AND IT WAS, UM, IF YOU ALSO RECALL, UM THE TOILET DISTRICT DOES TALK ABOUT MOST INTENSE LAND USES WITHIN THE TOWN OF PROSPER. IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW TO 12 STORIES MAY BE PERMITTED IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, JUST SORT OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED ALONG AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PULL THAT OUT, UM, FROM THE COM PLAN ITSELF. ANOTHER THING THAT I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT I DO. MENTION BRIEFLY IS THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY DESIGN DISTRICT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL. UM EARLY OF LAST YEAR, UM THIS WAS AGAIN TOO.
PROVIDE GUIDELINES FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS GOING TO RESIGNING. IF YOU ARE HAVE LOOKED THROUGH THAT GREAT DOCUMENT, UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE DALLAS PARKWAY IS GOING TO BE ONE OF OUR MOST HEAVILY TRAVELED ROADWAYS IN CHINA. PROSPER UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT WILL ALSO SERVE A SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. UM, AS WELL AS THE SUSTAINABLE TAX BASE. UM THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED SOME OF THOSE GUIDELINES TO BE INCORPORATED IN THE PD. UM SO AGAIN, WE DO HAVE LIKE ADDITIONAL SHRUBS, ADDITIONAL BERMS. ADDITIONAL TREE CALIBERS. UM THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE INTEGRATED. THE IMAGES SHOWS YOU DIFFERENT, UM, SOUTH DISTRICTS WITHIN THE TOLLWAY. UM NOTIFICATIONS WERE PROVIDED. UM TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS. UM WE DID RECEIVE TWO LETTERS THAT WERE PRINTED OUT. UM AND IN ALL, UM YOU KNOW STAFF , UM, SINCE STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS WITH ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY UM, A TOWN STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THIS ONLY REQUESTS. HOWEVER IF APPROVED, THIS REQUEST WILL PROVIDE INNOVATIVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE DALLAS NORTH DOORWAY, WHICH WAS ENVISIONED FOR THE DESIGN GUIDELINES. UM, I WAS STANDING FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TO DO A PRESENTATION AS WELL. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVID? DAVID GO AHEAD REAL QUICK, SO I KNOW I MADE A COMMENT EARLIER. 14 15 YEARS AGO WE HAD 15,000 UNITS OF APARTMENT UNITS THAT WE'RE SCHEDULED TO BE BUILT IN PROSPER THAT WENT DOWN TO 6500. OVER THE LAST. WHAT 67 YEARS. HOW DID THAT? HOW DID THEY COME TO THAT NUMBER? HOW DID WHAT WHAT MAGIC MAGICAL ALGORITHMS THEY COME UP WITH TO CUT IT LESS THAN HALF SO WHEN THE COMPLAINT WAS ADOPTED IN 2012, THEY DID A MARKET ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE ULTIMATE CAPACITY WAS AT THE TOWN, WHICH I BELIEVE AT THAT TIME WAS EXPECTED TO BE 71,000 USE ANALYSIS TO SORT OF DETERMINE WHAT ARE MEXICAN CAPACITY OF THOSE APARTMENTS WERE AGAIN. THOSE ARE JUST GUIDELINES, ESSENTIALLY, BUT THEY LOOKED AT YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY 7000 WILL PROBABLY BE THE MAXIMUM PASSIVITY OF PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THE TOTAL POPULATION IS. UM AGAIN. WE ARE LOOKING AT UPDATING THAT COM PLAN. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF THAT. UM HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING UPDATED TO US AND SOMETIME OF THE SUMMER OR LATE SUMMER. BUT JUST KNOW THAT THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT THE DEMAND OR WHAT THEY DID
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TO DETERMINE THAT NUMBER. ARE WE STILL THINKING THAT I KNOW IT'S BEING UPDATED. WE'RE STILL THINKING THAT 71,000 NUMBERS STILL GOING TO BE THE SAME SINCE WE'RE ALMOST ALREADY AT 40,000 YEARS, OR IS IT DO WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN THAT NOW? OR THAT THE TOWN HAS FROM FROM THAT TIME TO THIS TIME? WE'VE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF GROWTH AND OBVIOUSLY PROSPER AT 2022 2012 IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN PROSPER NOW. UM I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE MARKET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF GROWTH.THAT'S KIND OF AN OBVIOUSLY WITH DEVELOPMENT ACROSS JUST DFW, AND ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT. BUT UM, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DOUGIE. UM SO.
EVERYTHING ELSE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MAKE SURE FROM THE STAFFING FROM STAFF RECOMMENDATION. EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU SEE, IT'S FINE. IT'S JUST THE APARTMENTS. THAT IS REALLY THE CONCERN, LIKE ALL THE OTHER DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THEIR USAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU THINK IT'S IF WE JUST COULD PLUCK OUT THE APARTMENTS? IN YOUR OPINION? EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE FINE. THAT'S CORRECT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAD CLARITY ON THE STAFF POSITION THAT THERE WASN'T ANY OTHER THING THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, CONCERN AGAIN. UM YEAH, THAT SUMS IT UP. NO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE DAVID QUICK QUESTION WHERE WE NEED TO BUY ANOTHER OR A LARGER LADDER TRUCK TO ACCOMMODATE THIS BUILDING. WHEN OUR OUR CURRENT LADDER TRUCK HANDLE THIS. UM POTENTIALLY AGAIN. THIS THIS WOULD BE SORT OF SETTING THE BAR FOR THE D E N T. I MEAN, DON'T GET 12 STORIES . YEAH THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT SO TRUCKS WHAT NORTH OF A MILLION BUCKS? POTENTIALLY OKAY? SO AGAIN, WE WOULD, UM NO FIRE HAS LOOKED AT THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
UM MM. PULL THAT UP PROPERLY. TALK TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS SO AGAIN, SINCE THIS IS SUCH A ZONING, CONCEPTUAL, UM DETAILED PLAN FIRE JUST IS AWARE OF SOME OF THE TALL BUILDINGS AND THEY HAVE MADE SOME COMMENTS ON. UM, YOU KNOW, UM SOME OF THE ACCESS EASEMENTS AND JUST MAKING SURE BUT AGAIN, THIS IS SORT OF MORE OF THE ZONING PERSPECTIVE. AND SO THEY ARE. THEY'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN COMMUNICATING AND HAVING INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS TO SORT OF MEET THAT THE FIRE REQUIREMENT AND FIRE CODE. PARAPHRASE WHAT I'M HEARING.
THAT'S WHAT, MAKE SURE I'M DOWNLOADING IT RIGHT BECAUSE TOMMY'S A GREAT QUESTION. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO IT AS IT SITS OVER AND YOU HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ROADS AND WITS, BUT THEY THEY HAVEN'T SAID NO. BECAUSE OF THEY HAVEN'T SAID EXACTLY. YEAH, THEY'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON YOU KNOW AGAIN. THEY'VE ALREADY MET A COUPLE OF TIMES. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO THROUGH A PSP AND INSIDE PLAN, THEY SUBMIT A FIRE PLAN. YOU KNOW THE TOTAL WAY I'VE ALREADY A VISION 12 STORIES WAS ALONG THE TOY. EVEN BESIDES, SO AGAIN. AT THAT TIME. I THINK THE CONVERSATION FOR AN IMPROVEMENT TO VEHICLES WAS GOING TO BE NEEDED, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE TOLLWAY SORT OF ENVISION WHERE MOST MOST INTENSE MAN USES AND THEN POTENTIALLY GOING HIGHER AND HIGHER. OKAY WE REDIRECTED. THANKS DOLLARS. TWO YEARS AGO SO THAT THEY COULD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COULD BUY A LETTER. TRY NOT DO HAVE ONE. WE'VE GOT ONE OF THOSE BLACK PURCHASED LIKE WHAT? DAVID 23 YEARS AGO AND THEN BUT THAT'S NOT NEAR.
YEAH DON'T GO DON'T GO CHILDREN'S VIEWS, AND BUT I MEAN , THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING. WE'RE GONNA GUARANTEE THERE'S GOING TO BE EVENTUALLY THERE'S GONNA BE A BIG BUILDING ON THE HALLWAY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE IT, SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN. EVENTUALLY PROCESS JUST MM. FROM MY OWN EDUCATION PURPOSES TO SAY EVERYTHING GETS APPROVED. OKAY? WHAT'S THE YOU KNOW IF THE CHIEF GOES. I GOTTA BUY A TRUCK TO COMPLY WITH THIS WERE AND HE SAYS I CAN'T GET THE TRUCK. OBVIOUSLY. WHAT WHAT? HOW DOES THAT WORK WHEN YOU KNOW IF WE APPROVE TONIGHT, AND THEN IT RUNS INTO THAT OFF SCHOOL. I JUST REALLY DON'T KNOW. UM, SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. LIKE VETO TIME OUT, SO WHAT I WOULD THINK AND IS AGAIN OBVIOUSLY. THE TOWN ALREADY HAD , YOU KNOW, R C C CORRIDOR MOST INTENSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALREADY OFFERING 10 STORIES. SO I KNOW THERE'S EXPECTED OF ALREADY HIGHER ARM PHENOMENON CALLED HIGH RISE, BUT MID RISE BUILDINGS AND SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. BUT I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF OUR ZONING IS ALREADY ALLOWED THAT INTENSITY OF A HEIGHT. UM AND SO I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD PREPARE, OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND Y'ALL ARE WHERE THERE'S MORE DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING AROUND US, AND THAT'S CAUSING FOR MORE DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR, UM ALONG THE DNT, UM WOUD HAVE A GAME PLAN TO SORT OF MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO MEET THE DEMAND FOR WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS OCCURRING. NO, THAT DOESN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. BUT JUST NO ATTEMPT DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS LIKE A HARD ROLL. I WAS JUST MORE CURIOUS. JUST FOR ME TO JUST UNDERSTAND THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION. THE ONLY
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REASON WHY THE DENSITY IS INCREASED AT 33 UNITS IS BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL FLOORS, RIGHT? THE ADDITIONAL STORIES IS THAT THE ONLY REASON WHY THE PD GO WAR, WE WOULD BE GOING FROM 15 UNITS PER ACRE TO 33 COMPARISON IS JUST LOOKING AT, UM THE WHAT THEIR TOWN. MULTI FAMILY DISTRICT IS SO THAT'S JUST OUR STANDARD MULTI FAMILY DENSITY, WHICH IS 15 UNITS PER ACRE. THIS IS JUST, UM IT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY JUST SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE TOWN AND PROSPER TYPICALLY LOOKS FOR. IN DENSITY. THEY'RE GOING HIGHER AND ABOVE. YES WE CAN PROBABLY ASK THE APPLICANT ON POTENTIALLY WHY. BUT BUT TYPICALLY, UM FOR THESE TWO, AND I THINK IN OUR MULTI FAMILY, UM YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DENSITY ON THE CHART. YOU CAN SEE EVERYONE'S DENSITY UNITS THAT WE HAVE. SO WE ALREADY HAVE SOME 34 UNITS. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST INTENSE THAT THERE'S A 43 UNIT ACTUALLY OUT THERE, TOO. UM VERY FORGIVENESS FOR ACRES ARE MOST INTENSE. ONLY REASON WAS ASKING IS BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN THERE'S THAT INCREASE, OR I'M SORRY. THE DENSITY IS ON THE HIGHER END. USUALLY YOU'RE PACKING PEOPLE IN SMALLER UNITS TO FIT MORE PEOPLE INTO THE SPACE. BUT IF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WITH THIS, IF THAT INCREASES SIMPLY BECAUSE INSTEAD OF HAVING EIGHT STORIES, YOU'LL NOW HAVE 12 STORIES. THAT COULD BE THE INCREASED PER ACRE . YOU WILL STILL HAVE REASONABLY SIZED UNITS. YOU WON'T HAVE THE NECESSARILY PACKED IN SO THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT INCREASE IN DENSITY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LIKE RIGHT NOW THAT THE CURRENT ZONING DOESN'T ALLOW FOR MULTI FAMILY, I JUST PULLED THAT NUMBER IN BECAUSE THAT'S OUR BASE. AND I ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE THIS, BUT, YEAH, WE CAN MORE THAN HAPPY TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO MAYBE EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE MULTIFAMILY. UM, ASPECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DAVID. ALRIGHT LET'S GO AHEAD AND AS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS, UH , PRESENTATION. I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. FOR HAVING US MY NAME IS NOLAN BRADSHAW, PRESIDENT CORNERSTONE PROJECTS GROUP. MY ADDRESS IS 4770 BRYANT IRVIN COURT SUITE 200. FORT WORTH, TEXAS. I GOT INTRODUCED THE REST OF OUR DESIGN TEAM AND OWNERSHIP TEAM, SOME OF WHICH ARE HERE.
UM, GOT PERSONA KUMAR IS HERE WITH US FROM ORION REAL ESTATE CAPITAL. OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IS LAYING CREATIVE. CIVIL ENGINEER, MANHART CONSULTANTS AND ARCHITECT COUPLE. ALRIGHT SO I THINK DAVID STOLE SOME OF MY THUNDER WITH DESCRIBING HOW THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AND.
SUBDISTRICTS ARE DIVIDED, BUT I'LL RUN THROUGH THAT AGAIN BRIEFLY JUST FOR MY PERSPECTIVE.
SO WE'RE LOCATED HERE AT 34 ACRES IN BETWEEN FRONTIER PARKWAY AND PROSPER TRAIL ALONG THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. WE'RE SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL ZONING ON THE NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST AND SINGLE FAMILY PD ZONING ON THE WEST. THE SHAPE OF THE SIDES RELATIVELY SQUARE ABOUT 1200, LINEAR FEET AND ALL FOUR DIRECTIONS. BORDERED BY SHAWNEE TRAIL. ON THE WEST AND DALLAS MAKO IN THE EAST. SO, AS DAVID SAID. THE INTENT, MR BRIDE AND ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT CONTAINS A COMPARABLE MIX OF RESIDENTIAL OFFICE COMMERCIAL USES WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY. UM SO WHAT WE'RE AFTER HERE IS CREATING PLACE RIGHT, AS OPPOSED TO ANYONE CAN CREATE SPACES. SO WHEN YOU CREATE PLACE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS EQUAL EQUILIBRIUM IS BALANCE OF DIFFERENT USES AND HOW THEY INTERACT WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, CITED HOW THEY FACE EACH OTHER, HOW THEY WANT TO TALK TO EACH OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, AND I'LL GET INTO ALL THAT ON THE PLANS. UM THIS PROPOSED OWNING SUPPORTS THIS BALANCE AND SUSTAINABLE MIX OF USES. THEY CAN BE COMBINED IN EITHER VERTICALLY. COMBINED VERTICALLY IN THE SAME BUILDING OR HORIZONTALLY, MULTIPLE BUILDINGS. THESE STANDARDS AND TEND TO PROMOTE AND EFFICIENT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS NETWORK THAT CONNECTS THE NON RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL USERS. WE DO THIS BY RELATING BUILDINGS APPROPRIATELY SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, STREETS AND STREETS, WHICH CREATE COHESIVE VISUAL IDENTITY AND ATTRACTIVE SCENES, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT STREET SCENES IN SECTION SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE OTHER BUILDINGS RELATE TO THE PEDESTRIAN IN FRONT. WE ENSURE SITE DESIGN PROMOTES EFFICIENT PEDESTRIAN VEHICLE VEHICULAR CIRCULATION. ENSURE THE CREATION OF HIGH QUALITY STREET AND SIDEWALK ENVIRONMENTS THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY. AND UH AND ENSURE THAT LARGE SIDE TO DEVELOP IN A MANNER THAT SUPPORTS AND ENCOURAGES
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CONNECTIVITY AND CREATES ADHESIVE VISUAL IDENTITY. THURSDAY VOWED SAID WE'RE DIVIDING THE AREA INTO TWO SUB DISTRICTS, THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF DIFFERENT ON THE WEST SIDE. AND THE HIGHWAY SUB DISTRICT ON THE EAST. I'LL USE MY CURSOR HERE. THIS IS THE DIVIDING LINE ALONG THE STREET. SO AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE POTENTIAL FUTURE RESIDENCES ALONG OUR WESTERN PROPERTY LINE.OR ACROSS SHAWNEE TRAIL FROM US. WE WANTED TO ENGAGE THAT COMMUNITY WITH A RESIDENTIAL FEEL IN THE SAME SCALE. SO WE'RE PROPOSING THREE STORY TOWN HOMES. A CLUSTER OF SIX BUILDINGS PER MM, OR SIX UNITS PER BUILDING. STRETCHED OUT OVER THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE WEST PROPERTY LINE. THAT'S COMPLEMENTED BY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL AS WE ENTER OFF SHAWNEE TRAIL, THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE. YOUR DRIVE THROUGH A. TWO RELATIVELY LOW PROFILE RETAIL BUILDINGS. THIS IS GOING TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD. SERVICES RESTAURANTS. KIND OF ALL PACKED INTO THIS ENTRANCE. SO THIS IS GOING TO SERVICE BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT ALSO THE LARGER GEOGRAPHIC AREA. TECHNICALLY THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICE, THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA, BUT WE SUSPECT THAT OTHER RESIDENTS WE USE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL QUITE REGULARLY. OKAY, AS WE MOVE IN I'LL START FROM THE TOP AND WORK MY WAY DOWN. WE HAVE AT THE TOP FOR SALE CONDOS ON OUR NORTH BOUNDARY. THESE ARE TYPICALLY ABOUT FIVE STORIES IN HEIGHT, PODIUM PRODUCT. SO FIVE STORIES OR 45 STORIES OF WOOD PRINTING OVER CONCRETE PODIUM. UM, MOVING DOWN HERE. FOR LEAST RESIDENTIAL AH! ALSO POTENTIALLY PODIUM OVER RETAIL, SO GROUND FLOOR IS CONCRETE FRAME ABOUT THAT WOOD FRAMING. KIND OF THE CROWN JEWEL , THE DEVELOPMENT AS WE SEE IT AS THE TOWN SQUARE, SO IT'S THE SCREEN SPACE KIND OF IN BETWEEN AND THE CENTRAL FEATURE WE EXPECT AND I'LL SHOW YOU IMAGES . PEOPLE USING THIS FOR ENTERTAINMENT USES PUBLIC OPEN SPACE REST AND RELAXATION DOG WALKING THINGS LIKE THAT. HMM. AND SOCIAL INTERACTION. DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OR ANCHORED BY A 200 KEY HOTEL. THIS WILL HAVE SOME CONFERENCE SPACE AS WELL AS GRAND FLOOR RETAIL TO ENGAGE THE RETAIL ACROSS THE STREET. I'LL GET INTO THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS FEATURE. IT'S CALLED R BOULEVARD ST. IT HAS ITS OWN STREET SECTION. IT'S REALLY COOL . I THINK IN THAT WE HAVE A 20 TO 30 FT MEDIA IN THERE THAT WE'RE PUTTING RETAIL PADS ON SINGLE STORY. SO IF YOU'VE BEEN TO CLYDE WARREN PARK IN DALLAS, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A LOW PROFILE, RETAIL DINING OR DINER COFFEE SHOP BISTRO. WE EXPECT THOSE TO BE THERE, AND WE EXPECT A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY AROUND THAT OUTDOOR SEATING. MY MUSIC, THINGS LIKE THAT. AH AND OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT. WE HAVE OUR OFFICE BUILDINGS. AND BELOW THAT, UH, PAD SITE RESTAURANT.
SO FINE DINING. WE EXPECT LARGE PATIOS. AND THEN WE HAD THE RETENTION PONDS RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT. WHICH KIND OF ADDS A NEW AND INTERESTING FEATURE ALSO HAVE A RETENTION POND IN THE NORTH. MHM EAST CORNER. WHICH SUPPORTS OUR OPEN SPACE AND OR ENTRY OFF OF THE NT MAKING A LITTLE NICER. SEE IT. SEE SOME IMAGERY HERE. WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO IMAGERY LATER. SO THESE ARE JUST TO KIND OF ENRICHED THE DISCUSSION. HMM. SO HERE'S OUR GROUND FLOOR PLAN. DAVID WALKED THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT. I'LL HIT THE HIGH POINTS. ALL THE TOWN HOMES ARE SINGLE USE SO THE AERIAL VERSUS GROUND FLOOR WON'T BE ANY DIFFERENT. RETAIL HERE AS YOU COME IN. EVERYTHING IN PINK IS GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE GROUND FLOOR RESIDENTIAL. THESE ARE GOING TO BE STOOPS THAT OPENED UP WITH STEPS, MAYBE A SMALL COURTYARD ONTO THE STREET SCENE.
UH EVERYTHING IN YELLOW IS RETAIL. SO WE TRY TO CLUSTER THAT RETAIL TOGETHER FOR SYNERGY. I MENTIONED THAT IN THE FIRST SLIDE YOU REALLY WANT THAT DYNAMIC DIALOGUE HAPPENING SO THE RETAILERS CAN BORROW AND USE THE PATRONS. KEEP THEM. THEIR STORIES BUSY. HERE'S OUR. TOWN CENTER OR TOWN SQUARE. WATER FEATURE. HOTEL ALSO HAS RETAIL AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, AS WELL AS HOTEL ENGAGEMENT ON THE STREET FRONT. HERE ARE PAD SITES I MENTIONED ON THE BOULEVARD. WE HAVE THREE OF THEM WITH PLENTY OF SPACE TO STRETCH OUT IN BETWEEN. AND THEN ENGAGING THE RETAIL AT THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF THE OFFICES, SO THE OFFICERS DO HAVE A LOBBY ENTRANCE. BUT THEY
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ALSO HAVE RETAIL ON EITHER SIDE OF THE LOBBY. SO YOU'RE GETTING THOSE RESTAURANTS. THIS SUPPORT THE OFFICE BUILDINGS, THE. PROBABLY THE NICER SHOPS THAT RENTS WILL TYPICALLY BE HIGHER INSIDE THE CORE. I SAY NO, ACTUALLY, THEY'RE ALL IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE NICE, BUT IRAN.IMAGES ON THE RIGHT TO PICKED ON THE ON THE TOP LOOK INTO THE TOWN SQUARE. THE THIS CORRIDOR HERE. ON THE TOP IMAGE. IS THIS RIGHT HERE ON THE PLAN? THIS IS TECHNICALLY A FIRE ACCESS CORRIDOR, BUT IT'S NON DRIVABLE FROM A TYPICAL USER, SO IT'LL BE DRIVING WILL BE DISCOURAGED, MAINLY A PEDESTRIAN AREA LARGE PLAZA. SO I GET INTO A LITTLE BIT HERE, THE USE BREAKDOWN AND SIZES OF SPACES AND USES THE TOTAL DEVELOPED AREAS. 1000 SORRY, 1,000,500. SQUARE FEET.
THE LAND AREA IS ABOUT THE SAME. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A FLORIDA RATIO OF ONE UM, WITHOUT GETTING INTO EACH ONE. WE CAN ORGANIZE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS LATER. WE CAN GO BACK TO THE UNIT SIZES AND MIXES AND ALL THAT. BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL PICTURE. WE'RE ABOUT 50 50 RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, AND THAT'S INTENTIONAL BECAUSE YOU WANT THE PEOPLE COMING PEOPLE GOING THROUGHOUT THE DAY SUPPORTING THE RETAIL TO KEEP IT A THRIVING UM DEVELOPMENT. OF THE 50% RESIDENTIAL 25% OF THE LEASE. 25% IS FOR SALE. AND THEN WE HAVE WITH THE 50% COMMERCIAL. WE HAVE 30% OFFICE. 10% HOTEL 10% RETAIL. AND TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SCALE AND THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES THAT INCLUDED PICTURES HERE BELOW TOWN HOMES ON THE BOTTOM LEFT. THREE STORIES. THIS IS AS SEEN FROM OUR CENTRAL STREET LOOKING TO THE WEST. AND, UH, AS THE. THE PRODUCT STEPS UP IN HEIGHT, WE GO TO THE CENTER 4 TO 5 STORIES HERE. AND THEN 12 STORIES AT THE TOLLWAY. SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THIS SLIDE DEPICTS ALL OF OUR FIRE LANES AND ACCESS UH, CORRIDORS DEPICTED IN YELLOW OR 26 FT FIRE LANES AND HATCHED RED OR 28 FT FIRE LANES AND THEN ARE DARK RED OR THE. THE CARRIAGE WAYS FOR FIRE ACCESS INTO THE AMENITY AREAS OF THE RESIDENTIAL. THE STAFF CHALLENGED US TO MEET A 20% OPEN SPACE ACROSS THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. SO WHAT THAT MEANT FOR US IS 20% OPEN SPACE IN BOTH THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CORRIDOR. WE'RE ACHIEVING BUT MORE THAN THAT, I THINK ARE HIGHWAY SUBDISTRICT IS 25% AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDISTRICTS 27% LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN SPACE. AND THEN I'LL POINT OUT AND GREEN DOWN BELOW. THIS IS ACTUALLY A LARGE EASEMENT. SO WE'RE REACTING TO THE EASEMENT AND CREATING A LARGE GREEN SPACE THERE. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE STREET SCENES LOOK IN SECTION UM, SECTION B. HERE IS ESSENTIALLY ARE. ALI FOR THE TOWN, HOME ACCESS PARTICULAR ACCESS, YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE TWO WAYS. TWO WAY ACCESS THEIR CURB OUTSIDE THE CURB. IS 20 FT SETBACK FOR VEHICULAR EGRESS? AND PARKING FOR A TOWN HOMES AS WELL AS GARAGE PARKING AS WELL.
SO FOR CARS PER TOWN HOME LOT. MOVING ON TO ITEM C BUILDING SECTION C. THIS IS OUR 60 FT STREET SECTION AND PROBABLY THE MOST PREVALENT. IF WE LOOK AT THE CENTER LINE AND MOVE OUR WAY OUT, WE HAVE TO WEIGH PARTICULAR DIRECTION. UH, WE HAVE PARALLEL PARKING ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT CURB SIDEWALK LINED WITH STREET TREES. AND THEN OUR BUILDING LINE. SO THIS IS THE ITEM D IS THE ONE I MENTIONED EARLIER. IT'S THE ONE THAT CONTAINS THE RETAIL THIS IS OUR LARGEST SECTION 120. FEET PICTURE TO THE RIGHT KIND OF ILLUSTRATES HOW THAT MIGHT WORK FROM THE PEDESTRIAN VANTAGE POINT. WE HAVE A 29 FT. MEDIAN IN THAT MEDIAN WILL PUT THE RETAIL BISTRO RESTAURANT. OUTSIDE OF THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT VEHICULAR ACCESS EITHER DIRECTION. OUTSIDE OF THAT WE HAVE PARALLEL PARKING AND THEN A STREET LINE SIDEWALK. SORRY, TREELINE SIDEWALK. MOVING
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ON THE ADAM E. THIS IS OUR 88 FT STREET SECTION AND ONLY HAPPENS IN ONE AREA AS WE ENTER OFF SHAWNEE TRAIL. UM WE HAD THE TWO WAY OF VEHICULAR ACCESS. AND THEN WE'RE DOING ANGLE PARKING.THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING SPACES IN THERE BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE THAT AREA WILL BE USED. AS MORE OF A GRAB AND GO TYPE RETAIL PEOPLE IN AND OUT, SO WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING. FOR PRACTICAL MATTER OF WHO'S GOING TO BE IN THAT BUILDING. SO WE GOT THREE SLIDES OF IMAGERY AND I'LL MOVE THROUGH THESE QUICKLY AND WE CAN GO BACK TO HIM IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT UH, THIS IMAGE IS PRETTY IMPORTANT. IT SHOWS OUR SCALE AS IT RELATES TO SHAWNEE AND THEN THE SCALE INCREASES AS WE GO TO THE N T. THIS IS LOOKING AT IT FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE. DNT MOVING BACK TO SHAWNEE. HERE WE'RE DROPPING IN ON OUR TOWN CENTER. UM AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE STREET HAS REGULAR INTERVALS OF STREET TREES. WALKABLE SIDEWALKS. AND PLAZA. DOWN. BOTTOM LEFT. WE'VE GOT LOOKING OVER THE TOWN HOMES ONTO THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WITH THE D N OR THE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THE BACKGROUND. HERE WE HAVE THE HOTEL. ADAM FIVE. IT'S GOT A CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR A SECOND FLOOR. PULL BACK, SO WE KIND OF GET A GLIMPSE OF THAT LOOKING UNDER THE PLAZA. EACH ONE OF THESE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ALSO HAS A PULL BACK ON THE SECOND FLOOR, SO YOU KIND OF GET LAYERS OF OUTDOOR ACTIVITY AND LAYERS OF PEDESTRIAN INTERACTION. AND THEN WE'VE SEEN THIS, UH, BOULEVARD SECTION LOOKING TO THE NORTH.
TOP LEFT OUR CONDO BUILDINGS AND THE VERY NORTH PART PORTION OF THE LOT. LIVING OVER. WE HAD THE SINGLE STORY MAYBE TWO STORY RETAIL AS WE INTERRUPT SHAWNEE TRANSITION INTO THE TALLER BUILDINGS AND THE INTERIOR OF THE LOT. A COUPLE OF SHOTS OF THE OFFICE BUILDING. HERE'S THE PAD SITE RETAIL RESTAURANT ON THE SOUTH EAST CORNER. AS YOU CAN SEE. UM PATIOS ENGAGING THE WATER FEATURE. THERE'S A COMMON THREAD TRYING TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREET INTERACTING IN THE PUBLIC REALM AS POSSIBLE. HERE'S A LOOK AT OUR TOWN HOMES ON THE TOP LEFT.
MOVING OVER TO OUR HOTEL. YOU CAN SEE THE PUNCHED OPENINGS ON THE STREET SCENE WHERE WE HAVE RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK JUST ABOUT THAT, YOU'LL SEE THE POOL DECK OVERLOOKING THE STREET. AGAIN. BOULEVARD RETAIL. AND THEN HERE'S THE PLAZA. WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER FEEDING INTO THE TOWN SQUARE. HERE'S THE TOWN SQUARE. HOW WE ENVISION PEOPLE MIGHT USE IT VERY LEISURELY. POTENTIAL. FOR SCHEDULING EVENTS , LIVE MUSIC, THINGS LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND TOWN SQUARE LOOKING SOUTH TO THE HOTEL, ANCHORING THE SOUTHERN BORDER. HMM SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SIZE AND IMPACT THAT THIS PROJECT. WOULD HAVE FOR THE TOWN OF PROSPER AND THE COUNTY. UH CURRENTLY WERE VALUED AT 742 MILLION. AH! AS YOU KNOW, THE. THE TAX RATE GETS DIVIDED AMONGST THE TOWN. THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, COLLIN COUNTY AND COLLIN COLLEGE. UM. FULL BUILD OUT AND OPERATION. THIS IS PROPERTY TAXES ONLY, UH TOWARDS TO THE TOWN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. WE'RE LOOKING AT 3.7 MILLION THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT LEADERSHIP ABOUT 10 MILLION COLLIN COUNTY RECEIVED ABOUT 1.2 AND COLLIN COLLEGE 600,000. TO PUT THAT KIND OF IN PERSPECTIVE . YOU KNOW, THE I S D IS GETTING 10 YEAR HE COULD BUY A NEW ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND FIVE YEAR PERIOD, SO IT DOES HAVE ITS BENEFITS, NOT ONLY PROPERTY TAXES BUT ALSO SALES TAX. AND HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.
SALES TAX IS DIVIDED AMONGST THE STATE CITY OF PROSPER, THE PROSPER CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT. PROSPER FIRE CONTROL PREVENTION AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES DISTRICT. AND THE PROSPER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COURT. AND ON AN ANNUAL BASIS BASED ON OUR PROJECTED 81. $0.2 MILLION ANNUAL SALES. WE'RE LOOKING AT FIVE MILLION TO THE STATE.
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ANYONE MILLION OR 81 TURNED 12,000. TO THE PROSPER CITY. 200,000 TO THE CRIME CONTROL DISTRICT, 200,000 TO THE PROSPER FIRE CONTROL PREVENTION. AND 100, THOUSANDS OF THE PROSPER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COURT. NOW, AS OF THE DOCUMENT. DATE OF THIS DOCUMENT. THERE ARE NO HOTELS AND PROSPER THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED SINCE WE PULLED THIS UM THERE'S A 7% HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX BASED ON THE ROOM COST. BASED ON OUR GROSS ANNUAL GROWTH AT 14.6 MILLION FOR THE HOTEL. WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT ONE MILLION IN TAXES THAT GOES TO SUPPORT. THE . TOURISM AND CONVENTION AND HOTEL INDUSTRY FOR THE TOWN OF PROSPER. AND FINALLY TO WRAP IT UP AND CONCLUSION. YOU ALL READ THE STAFF REPORT. UM. YEAH, I'LL PULL SOME HIGHLIGHTS OUT OF HERE. WE AIM TO CREATE A UNIQUE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES DETAILED DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THERE'S ANY REQUEST ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES VERTICAL INTEGRATION OF OFFICE, RETAIL AND OR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE SAME BUILDING AN OFFICE PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL CENTER. IF APPROVED, THIS REQUEST WILL PROVIDE INNOVATIVE OPPORTUNITIES OF THE TOWN ENVISIONS ALONG THE DALLAS NORTH TOLL. NOW WE WERE TOLD EARLY ON IN OUR DEALINGS WITH STAFF THAT THEY WOULD ISSUE A SOFTER NOW ON THIS FOR THE SAKE OF THE MULTI FAMILY. UM WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS BEING RETHOUGHT. OR RECONSIDERED. UM. THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY DISTRICT WILL CONSIST OF THE MOST INTENSE LAND USES WITHIN PROSPER. SPEAKING. TO MIXED USE THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY DESIGN GUIDELINES. RELATED TO MULTI FAMILY. THE TOWN COUNCIL MAY PERMIT A MULTI FAMILY HOUSING AS PART OF A HOLISTIC DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES A COMBINATION OF BUSINESS IS DESIGNED TO CREATE A LIVE WORK AND PLAY ENVIRONMENT. MULTI FAMILY HOUSING IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL THAT INCLUDES BUSINESSES AND OR AMENITIES DESCRIBED THE TOWN. BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT STUDENTS THAT SOUNDS VISION. INCREASED DENSITY MAY BE PERMITTED. SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT. THE TOWN MAY HAVE ITS LIMIT ON MULTI FAMILY, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BRING A PRODUCT HERE. THAT'S INNOVATIVE , DIFFERENT, UNIQUE, AND WE REALLY WANT TO SET A TONE FOR WHAT DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY DISTRICT IS GOING TO BECOME. SO WE'VE TRIED TO ADHERE TO ALL THE ALL THE PROTOCOLS, ORDINANCES AND REQUESTS MADE BY STAFF IN THE CITY. WHERE ASKING THIS COMMISSION TO CONSIDER APPROVAL.AH! LET US MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS UNIQUE PROJECT. WITH THAT. OPENS UP FOR QUESTIONS. THANKS MR BRADSHAW. APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. YES IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, AND IT GOES TO COUNSEL THE 28TH. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON STARTING THIS AND ARE THERE ANY TRIGGERS OR ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT? FIRST QUALITY OF THE HOTEL. WHAT KIND OF HOTEL ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THEY'RE GONNA TOUCH ON A FEW QUESTIONS. WOW MAYBE CAN'T ANSWER TWO OR THREE OF THOSE I'M THROWING AT YOU FAST. SORRY ABOUT THAT TIMELINE WE EXPECT IF WE CAN GET THROUGH ZONING FIRST QUARTER THAN WE WOULD SPEND THE REST OF THE YEAR IN CIVIL AND OTHER COMPONENT DESIGN. EASILY TAKE OUT THE REST OF 2023. FIRST QUARTER 2024 WE EXPECT TO RESOLVE SOME OFF SITE UTILITY CHALLENGES. UM AND THEN I SAY THE EARLIEST WE COULD BREAK GROUND ON THE HORIZONTAL OR THE ROADS, WATER SEWER. WOULD BE PROBABLY THIRD QUARTER 24. MAYBE EVEN FIRST QUARTER 25. THE QUALITY OF THE HOTEL. THAT'S THERE OR ANY TIMELINE FOR WHAT? YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD FIRST.
ONCE YOU'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT PHASING GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, EASIER, UM. SO FACING ENVISION. SO I MENTIONED OFFSITE UTILITY SHAWNEE TRAIL. WE NEED TO RESOLVE THAT WHEN YOU DO CONNECT JOHNNY TRAIL AT LEAST AFTER OUR NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE AND THEN EXTEND A I BELIEVE IT'S A SANITARY LINE UP TOWARDS OUR NORTH COLLECTOR ROAD. SO I FULLY EXPECT THE TOWN HOMES AND THE SINGLE STORY. RETAIL TO GO FIRST. BECAUSE. ALSO IT'S TWOFOLD BECAUSE WE WANT TO CREATE THE BUFFER DAY ONE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S GOING TO CATCH UP WITH US. AND YOU KNOW, AFTER THAT, WE CAN THEN DO CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCES FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES, MAYBE DIFFERENT AREAS TO BUFFER SOME OF THAT NUISANCE. AND WORK OUR WAY TOWARDS THE EAST. SO RESIDENTIAL THEN PROBABLY OFFICE REALLY BE BUILT OUT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING. MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS KIND OF GOING
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FROM WEST TO EAST OR YOU'RE GONNA BUILD THAT BUFFER NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL BE THERE AT SOME POINT. AND THEN JUST KIND OF WORK. YOU THINK MULTI FAMILY NEXT IN OR OKAY WITH THOSE TWO LARGE OFFICE BUILDINGS, THE 12 STORY. WOULD THAT BE KIND OF THE END OF THE PROJECT? YOU THINK OR WHAT DO YOU THINKING THAT UNDER MIDDLE, YOU KNOW? IN A PERFECT WORLD WOULD HAVE EVERYTHING GOING AT ONCE, AND THEN WE'D BE STABILIZED. YES, SOON AS POSSIBLE. I MY THINKING IS BASED ON TODAY'S MARKET IS THAT THE OFFICE WILL PROBABLY TRAIL THE RETAIL MULTI FAMILY JUST DUE TO THE NAND. AS FAR AS THE HOTEL. WHAT KIND OF QUALITIES THAT LIKE A RITZ LEVEL QUALITY OR WE WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? I MEAN, IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL WHAT KIND OF WHAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS, SO IT'S 200 KEYS AS DRAWN HERE, UM WITH A STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE, INTEGRATED RETAIL CONCRETE PODIUM, SO THAT ALREADY SETS THE STANDARD FOR HOW MUCH YOU'RE GONNA CHARGE AT NIGHT, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE PRODUCT. UM WITH, UH. NOT CONVENTION CONFERENCE SPACE AS WELL SO PEOPLE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT GUESTS CAN USE THE CONFERENCE SPACE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE. DEFINITELY NOT EXTENDED STAY PROBABLY MORE LIKE A NICER FLAG LIKE A MARRIOTT, OKAY? WRITS WILL WANT TO GO INTO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE HIGH RISE, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WOULD GO HERE BUT BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING A FEW OPERATORS THAT. SO IT'S KIND OF MID UPPER END SOUNDS LIFELONG. ABSOLUTELY JUST THE CONSTRUCTION TECH WILL DRIVE THAT, UM, ON AN ISLAND WITH REGARDS TO APARTMENTS. UM WE HAVE ALL THESE ALLOCATED AND SPOKEN FOR, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BREAKING GROUND RIGHT NOW. I'M GOING VERTICAL, AND THEY'RE NICE. UM I OWN A BUSINESS HERE, AND I HAVE 60 EMPLOYEES AND I WOULD BE AT 10% OF THEM. DON'T LIVE IN THIS TOWN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO REALIZE THAT THEY FOR WHATEVER REASON, APARTMENTS HAVE A BAG STIGMA WITH CRIME AND WHATNOT. THERE IS NO WAY POSSIBLE IN MY OPINION WITH THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT AND QUALITY THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS PROJECT WHATSOEVER NOW. THE UNFORTUNATE THING FOR YOU. I'M ONLY ONE PERSON AMONG TEENS. I'M NOT ON COUNCIL. IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA GET PAST AND IT'S FRUSTRATING BECAUSE THIS IS A FANTASTIC PRODUCT. UM THE WAY YOU'VE DONE IT THE WAY YOU'VE HIDDEN THEM PUT THEM INSIDE THE OVERALL FACILITY IS ABSOLUTELY GENIUS. THE TOWN HOMES ARE COOL . THEY'RE DIFFERENT. I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS HOW Y'ALL CAME UP WITH THE ARCHITECTURE. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS THAT IT LOOKS ALMOST EUROPEAN. HMM ARE SO PRADERA THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS SPANISH FOR PRAIRIE. OKAY WE TOOK CUES FROM THE DOWNTOWN. WHAT HAPPENS ON A PRAIRIE, THE HORTICULTURE, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE TRIED TO INTEGRATE THAT INTO THE COLOR SCHEME, SO YOU'LL SEE WHITES, UH, YOU'LL SEE. WOODS. YEAH I HAD A VERY MEXICO VIBE ABOUT IT. YEAH ARCHITECT, I THINK REALLY DIDN'T NICE JOB OF COOL PRODUCT AND, UM I LIKE IT A LOT. EUROPE YOU'VE GOT AN UPHILL BATTLE WITH THE MULTI FAMILY, WHICH AGAIN? I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH. UM BUT THAT'S A SOLID PRODUCT, AND I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH IT. THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF MULTI FAMILY I SEE ON THE SLIDE . AND THIS HERE, YOU GET BROKEN DOWN BY DIFFERENT ONE AND TWO. BEDROOMS AND I SEE YOU'VE GOT DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. SO IS THIS TARGETED SPECIFICALLY AND THEN SECOND PIECE OF THAT QUESTION IF IT WERE JUST ON THE GROUND FLOOR , HOW WOULD THAT MATCH UP TO TOWN REQUIREMENTS OF UNITS BREAKER? OKAY, SO. HMM OF THE FORESAIL RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE 276 UNITS THAT THAT'S THE NEXT CONDO IN TOWN HOME. UM NOW TO BE TECHNICAL TOWN HOMES ARE CONSIDERED MULTI FAMILY AND ZONING. PLEASURE THEY'RE PART OF OUR OFFERING WERE THERE AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE MORE THE TYPICAL FOR LEASE. BEFORE LEAST WE HAVE 500 SCHEDULED, UM. AND THE SECOND PARTY QUESTION. HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO THE ASSUMING IT WAS SINGLE LEVEL OR DOUBLE LEVEL? LIKE OUR OTHER ONES? HOW DOES THAT COMPARE IN TERMS OF DENSITY TO WHAT TOWN GUIDELINES ARE? WHAT WOULD THE VARIANTS B? ASSUMING IT WASN'T THIS LARGER IN TERMS OF HYPE. NO I'M A HAVE TO DEFER TO DAVID ON THAT ONE.AS AS WHAT THE TOWN WOULD JUST CURIOUS FOR COMPARISON. OTHER PROJECTS WE'VE LOOKED AT OKAY.
SO ARE KIND OF DESCRIBE HOW THESE ARE BUILT. YOU'VE GOT THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, WHICH IS 41 , AND THEN YOU GOT IT TO FIVE FLOORS. ABOVE THAT SO SIX STORY TOTAL. WE'RE ONLY DOING SIX STORIES ON THE CORNERS TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT. MORE INTEREST THERE. EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE FIVE STORIES OF FRAMING OVER THE RETAIL ON THE GROUND. SO IT. IN THE INDUSTRY. IT'S KIND OF THAT
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BLEND OF TEXAS WRAPPING PODIUM, SO IT'S A NICER IT'S A NICER PRODUCT AND WHAT YOU MIGHT GET ON IT JUST A MULTI FAMILY PRODUCT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND FIRE CODES OF THE RETAIL BELOW AND INTO MIKE'S POINT, OFFICER BEING HIGHER END YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF FINANCIAL FORMULA TO MAKE THIS WORK IN YOUR MIND RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT IS YOUR WHAT YOU EXPECTED RENT GIVEN INFLATION AND THE FACT THAT MANY OCCUPY FOR YOU KNOW, FIVE PLUS YEARS IS BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW TODAY. I KNOW THAT'S A LOADED QUESTIONS. I'M JUST CURIOUS. I CAN GIVE YOU A RANGE. I THINK 2 25 TO 50 SQUARE FOOT. UM SO SOMEONE MIGHT BE SPENDING 2000 TO $3000 TO LIVE IN A UNIT. THANK YOU. UM. I LIKE THE PRESENTATION AS WELL. UM IF THERE'S NOT A DOWNTOWN. TOTALLY DISTRICT USE. THAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO KICK IT OFF. THIS SHOULD BE IT IN MY OPINION. UM I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, NOT ABOUT THE APARTMENTS OR THE TOWN HOMES. PRETTY GOOD WITH THAT, BUT I WAS CURIOUS AS HOW YOU DEVELOP THE SPECIFIC USE PERMITS AND SOME OF SOME OF THOSE, AND I GUESS IT MAY NOT EVEN BE A QUESTION FOR YOU. BUT IT IS LIKE HOW MUCH ARE THESE ARE LIKE GOING TO BE CODIFIED VERSUS LIKE IF THEY HAVE TO COME BACK OR THESE LIKE WHEN WE APPROVE THEM. WITH SOME OF THE ALL THE SPECIFIC USE PERMITS THAT ARE SORT OF USAGE. IS THAT LIKE NOW JUST BEEN CODIFIED. SO THEY SWAPPED OUT RETAIL AND WE HAVE ABOUT SWAP OUT EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING'S FINE AS LONG AS ON THIS LIST. STARTED ASKING, LIKE, IF SOMETHING, UM IF POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CHANGES, OR THE USES CHANGE, BECAUSE THERE'S A BUNCH RIGHT MHM AND A HALF OF LISTED AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THOSE ARE ACTUALLY BEING CODIFIED INTO THIS, ANY OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE PERMITTED PAST. YES OKAY, SO , YEAH, WE LOOKED REALLY, UM AGAIN. WE TRY TO CREATE THAT BUFFER FOR THE SUBDISTRICT AND WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER TO SORT OF REMOVE SOME OF THE USES THAT WERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDISTRICT. BUT YES, WE DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THOSE ELEMENTS ANIMALS WOULD WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THIS.OWNING MY QUESTION. MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR YOU IS THAT AS YOU GUYS HAVE STAFF REVIEWED THEM DID ANYTHING STAND OUT TO YOU LIKE A LOT. I REMOVED THIS. CAN YOU GIVE ME EXAMPLE A COUPLE OF REMOVED AND THEN WITH THE LIST THAT'S ACTUALLY HERE IS STAFFED AGAIN, ASSUMING THE APARTMENTS WERE NOT A REASON FOR DENIAL OF STAFFING, OKAY WITH STAFF OKAY WITH THE SPECIFIC PERMANENT USES THAT WERE OUTLINED. SO SO WE WENT BACK AND FORTH. UM, MULTIPLE REVISIONS. I THINK THIS HAS BEEN UM, UNDER REVIEW FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS. UM WE STARTED OFF WITH A DIFFERENT LIST, AND THEN WE'VE SORT OF REMOVED SOME OF THE USES THAT WE THOUGHT WERE WHAT? WHY? WHY IS THIS NEEDED? I'M TRYING TO THINK OF ONE THAT WE REMOVED RECENTLY. BUT UM, MAKE AN AUTOMOBILE USE LIKE WE HAVE NO NEED FOR THAT. THAT'S NO. UM SO YES, WE DEFINITELY DID. LOOK AT THEM. TO SORT OF MAKE SURE THAT IT FOLLOWS AND FITS THE TOY DESIGN GUIDELINES. THANK YOU, AS I WAS LOOKING AT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE YOU KNOW, LIKE OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS. I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT. THANKS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS HAVE REVIEWED THEM. AS FOR THE ACT THE PUBLIC HEARING VIDEO.
YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPORTIONS PUBLIC. I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HEARD THAT. BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO ADAM, NUMBER FIVE, WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING. I JUST ASK THAT YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THIS IS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND SPEAK IF YOU WANT TO. YES, MA'AM. PLEASE. DID YOU HEAR THAT? WE TYPICALLY DON'T DAVID, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TWO PRINTED LETTERS. SO YES, WE DID RECEIVE TWO LETTERS. UM THAT SPOKE IN OUR OPPOSITION OR THEY HAD CONCERNS. UM YES, BUT IF YOU DO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IF YOU COULD COME UP SO WE CAN HEAR YOU IN THE MIKE. IF YOU CAN, MISS NUGENT, I KNOW YOU SUBMITTED A COMMENT. REQUEST FORM JUST IN YOUR PLEASE COME UP AND SPEAK BUT JUST KIND OF OUR PROCESS. WE DO GET THESE LETTERS. WE HAVE REVIEWED THOSE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE THEM NOW. WE TYPICALLY DO NOT READ THOSE LETTERS PUBLICLY. BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. IF YOU'D LIKE. YES, MA'AM. MY NAME IS BARBARA. LUCIAN I LIVE AT 961 GRASSY SHORE LANE LIVE OFF PROSPEROUS TRAIL AND THE
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STARTED TRAIL DEVELOPMENT. I NOTICED WE GOT NOTICE IN OUR EMAIL ABOUT THIS PROJECT. AND WE JUST WENT THROUGH. UM AH, SOME DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE. COMMISSION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY ALONG THE DALLAS UM . NORTH TOLLWAY, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THE HEART MID BUILDINGS, ETCETERA, AND THAT WAS DENIED. NOW TONIGHT I'VE HEARD WHEN HE WAS UP YOUR SPEAKING AND YOU WERE ASKING QUESTIONS ARE THOSE TWO STORIES. I THINK IT I THINK IT HAS TWO BUILDINGS AND THERE UM IS IT 18? 18. I'M SAYING, UH, THINK CHINESE THINK OF THE WORD 18 FLOORS. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? UH TWO BUILDINGS IT AND APARTMENT BUILDING OR IS IT A WHOLE ADULT HOTEL? I THINK IT WILL LET EITHER THE AFRICAN OR DAVID COULD. YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT. YES SO WE CAN GO BACK TO THE COMPARISON JUST SO YOU CAN SEE, BUT JUST TO LET THE TALL BUILDINGS LIKE WHAT IS THE USE OF THE TALLEST BUILDINGS AND HOW MANY STORIES ARE THERE FOR? JUST THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE QUESTION? YEAH SO WHAT? THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSING HIS OFFICE , UM, TO BE IN THOSE TALLER BUILDINGS, AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 12 STORIES, SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN NECESSARY THAT IT'S GONNA BE 12 STORIES. IT'S JUST THAT'S THAT ALLOWANCE FOR THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT. RIGHT NOW. THE MAXIMUM STORY FOR, UH, THAT KIND OF PROCESS SPORT. PROSPER IS EIGHT STORIES THAT'S CORRECT, RIGHT? THANK YOU. I DIDN'T PROSPER NOW FOR FOUR YEARS, AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES. AND I LEARNED SOMETHING LAST NIGHT. DEVELOPING AND, UH, PROPERTY SOUTH OF PROSPER TRAIL THERE, AND NOW WE'RE AT NORTH ON THE PROPERTY SOUTH OF PROSPER TRAIL.THEY WERE GOING TO LOOK FORWARD. FOURTH STORY APARTMENT BUILDING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND IT WAS A LOT OF RESPONSE AND THAT PROJECT WENT AWAY. THE THING THAT IS WHEN YOU READ THE VISION OF PROSPER THE VISION OF THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY DISTRICT. IT TALKS ABOUT USING THE PROPERTY ON EACH SIDE OF THE HALLWAY FOR TO ME, UM NEIGHBORHOOD. NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS AND RETAIL. IT DOESN'T SAY APARTMENTS. IT DOESN'T SAY HUGE HOTELS. PLEASE TELL ME THAT A LOT OF THINGS THAT'S A WALL FACTOR WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. BUT WAS IT IS IT THE CHARACTER OF THE TOWN OF PROSPER THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN DEVELOPED OVER THE LAST? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS WE MOVED HERE BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTER, THE CITY. WE LIKED WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND OLD TOWN WE DIDN'T CONSIDER 12 STATUS STORY BUILDINGS AT THE END OF THE STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE. I MEAN , IT'S WONDERFUL WITH THE PROMISE OF THE RETAIL AND THE BUSINESSES AND THE BEAUTIFUL THIS BEAUTIFUL THAT BUT DO THE PEOPLE PROSPER? WHAT PAT? THEY MAY WANT IT IN A CERTAIN AREA, BUT NOT RIGHT DOWN HERE. ANOTHER STREET. AND UH, VISIONS OF THE TOLLWAY DISTRICTS AND THE BUSINESS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK TOGETHER TO DEVELOP THIS CITY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CHARACTER. THE CITY. THE QUAINT IS OLD TOWN. THEY DIDN'T ENVISION 20 STORY BUILDINGS OR 18 STORY BUILDING INTO WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALONG THE TOLLWAY. THE TOTALLY DISTRICTS WERE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE HOMEOWNERS AND EACH SIDE IN THEIR SERVICES, ETCETERA AND OFFER RETAIL. NOW YOU CAN CHANGE IT FOR THIS ONE. BUT THEN ARE YOU GOING TO A LOT MORE FAMILY FOR THEIR NEXT AREA? ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE THE WHOLE CHARACTER OF THE CITY BECAUSE YOU LOVED THE PROJECT? YOU THINK WE NEED IT? IT'S SORT OF HOLLYWOOD. OH, MY GOODNESS. LOOK WHAT WE HAVE IN PROSPER THAT YOU DON'T HAVE. YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN FRISCO, EX CETERA. WE DIDN'T MOVE HERE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE LIKE FRISCO IN HALF TALL BUILDING HERE AND TALL BUILDINGS THERE AND ONCE YOU START ONCE YOU START, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STOP. YOU APPROVE ONE THING AND THEN THE OTHER. I LIKE PROSPER THE WAY IT IS. I LOVE PARTS OF
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THAT. I'M TOTALLY OPPRESSED BY IT, BUT I WOULDN'T LIVE IN THE TOWN HOME THERE. THAT'S NOT WHAT I MOVED TO THIS AREA FOR. AND IT'S NOT WHAT A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE MOVED TO THIS AREA FOR WHO DIDN'T MARIA GET THEIR NAILS DIDN'T LOOK AT THEIR COMPUTERS. THEY DIDN'T COME OUT THEIR DOORS. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECTS. I JUST DON'T THINK IT IS SHOULD GO IN WHERE THEY PROPOSED TO DO IT. I WOULD LOVE TO GO TO HIM. BUILD IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. THANK YOU. YES MA'AM.THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND BEING HERE THIS EVENING. I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON NUMBER FIVE BEFORE WE CONSIDER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE DON'T HAVE VIRTUALLY MORE, DO WE? OKAY? YEAH, JUST A PROPERTY. ALRIGHT WELL, I'LL GO AHEAD GOOD COMMENT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE OUT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE. AND THEN, UH, TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THEY WOULD HAVE OF THE APPLICANT OR TOWN STAFF AT THIS TIME. AND IF WE HAVE NO QUESTIONS. WHAT KIND OF ALL ASSUMING WE DON'T. COMMISSIONER CHARLES WILL START WITH YOU AND WE CAN ALL OFFER OUR COMMENTS AND GO TO A MOTION. I MEAN, I REALLY RESPECT HER HER VIEW. I THINK WE ALL MOVED HERE 18 YEARS AGO FOR A VERY DIFFERENT VISION OF PROSPER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THIS TOLLWAY DISTRICT IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DEFINE THAT BALANCE. UM AND I BELIEVE THAT. YOU'RE NOT WRONG AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU SAID, AND IT RINGS TRUE AND A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE NEED A MIXED USE PROPERTY THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS, THAT THAT WOULD AS YOU SAID, BUT EVEN COME AND VISIT, UM AND SEE SOME OF THE THINGS AND I THINK WE NEED DIVERSITY. THE HOUSING THAT'S HERE. UM WHAT A GREAT PLACE TO PUT APARTMENTS AND HOW THEY'VE INCORPORATED IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF MY THOUGHTS. UM IT'S NOT JUST A FREESTANDING BUILDING. IT'S A IT'S INCORPORATED INTO A WHOLE MIXED USE PLAN WHERE I COULD ACTUALLY SEE MY OWN FREE KIDS EVENTUALLY LIVING IN A PLACE LIKE THAT GREAT TO HAVE IT ON THE PROSPEROUS SIDE INSTEAD OF THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY IN FRISCO, OR SOON TO BE THE NORTH SIDE OF SELENA, SO I THINK YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB AND OTHERS. IT'S REALLY CONCEPTUAL.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF PHASES THAT WILL COME BEFORE, SO I'M ASSUMING AS YOU SORT OF TAKE FROM CONCEPTUAL TO REALITY. IN MY COMMENTS TO YOU GUYS WOULD BE I EXPECT IF I'M STILL SITTING THIS YEAR, EVERY PHASE TO MEET THIS EXPECTATION FROM A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, I WENT. I INTEND TO RAISE MY HAND AND SUPPORT. AND SO MY CHALLENGE IS TO THE DEVELOPERS IS HOLD TRUE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A MULTI YEAR YOU KNOW, ENDEAVOR AND A LOT OF MONEY, AND A LOT OF THINGS CAN CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SEE THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT COME OUT OF THE GROUND THAT IT'S NOT JUST A DOG AND PONY SHOW THAT ENDS UP FADING AWAY. SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT AND AGAIN. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN. YOU ELEGANTLY SPOKE. UM AND YOU REPRESENT A WHOLE LOT OF PROSPER AND THE HEART OF PROSPER AND HOPE YOU DREAD MANY MORE PLANNING AND ZONING AND HOPE YOU'RE AT TOWN COUNCILS AS WELL TO LET THAT VOICE BE HEARD. THE CHALLENGE US TO ALWAYS THINK BETTER AND NOT TO THINK, YOU KNOW. SO SILOED. UM, SO AGAIN, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. BUT I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT TYPE OF PROJECT FOR WHAT WE SEE AND SETS THE TOWN FOR UM, THE TOLLWAY FROM AN APPROVAL POINT OF VIEW. THANKS MR CHARLES. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER HARRIS.
THANK YOU AND I WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER CHARLES STATEMENTS , MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. UH, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS THIS EVENING, IT DID NOT FALL ON DEAF EARS DID MAKE AN IMPACT AND AGAIN, JUST AS COMMISSIONER CHARLES SAID. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE MAKING YOUR VOICE HEARD, UM AND CONTINUE COMING HERE BECAUSE IT'S THAT VOICE THAT HELPS KEEP US HONEST, UM, KEEPS US YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE IN TUNE WITH WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE ASKING FOR AS WELL. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM UH, IN LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT. I THINK THIS IS A THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE NEED HERE IN PROSPER. AND I THINK, UM YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT MOST OF THE ONES THAT I'VE SEEN AND BEEN A
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PART OF HAVE BEEN STAND ALONE. UH, BUILDINGS. UM. I THINK THE THING THAT SORT OF TURNED ME FOR THIS ONE IS THAT IT'S A PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT IN THE WAY THAT IT'S SORT OF, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN MENTIONED IT THE WAY IT SORT OF TUCKED IN, UM INTO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT . I THINK THAT IS, YOU KNOW IF I WAS TO APPROVE SOMETHING, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAVE, IT WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD APPROVE. UH UM. I THINK THAT IT IS. IT'S WELL DONE. I THINK THAT IT WILL DRAW. I THINK IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR THE PEOPLE OF PROSPER. UM YOU KNOW, I CAN CERTAINLY SEE A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS BENEFITING FROM THIS, UM AND FROM A TAX STANDPOINT, I JUST THINK IT'S A PROJECT THAT WE NEED HERE. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T YOU KNOW, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE MAKING YOUR VOICE HEARD. BECAUSE THERE WILL BE OTHERS. THERE WILL BE OTHERS.THERE WILL BE OTHERS THAT WILL COME BEFORE US. AND HAVING YOUR VOICE HERE, UM WE'LL HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE DO RIGHT BY OUR CITIZENS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID, REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. MR PETTIS. BUT ECHO, BOTH WITH BOTH COMMISSIONERS SAID IT WAS VERY WELL SAID THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT, GENTLEMEN . THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AS WELL AGAIN. I GET IT. I'M MILITARY 15 YEARS AGO, AND I WANT TO CLOSE THE GATE BEHIND ME. AND IT DIDN'T WORK. SO UM AND IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HAVE BIG DEVELOPERS COME IN AND DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND THEY'RE DOING A PRODUCT LIKE THIS. IT'S YOU WANT TO GO WITH THE ONE THAT YOU KNOW, AND THE ONE THAT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY DO, AND THIS IS HAVING SOMEBODY TELLING THEM NO AND HAVING SOMEBODY COME OUT TRYING TO REPEAT OR EVEN COME CLOSE TO THIS. I BET DOESN'T HAPPEN, SO I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THIS AND EXTREMELY IMPRESSED WITH WITH YOUR WORDS TO TONIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MA'AM, AND I'M FOR IT. THANK YOU. MICHAEL PEARSON. ALL THREE OF YOUR SENTIMENTS ABOUT, UM HER PRESENTATION AND YOUR PRESENTATION. UM I THINK IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT. I WILL TELL YOU. THE HOTEL GIVES ME HEARTBURN. UM BECAUSE WITH AS MANY HOTELS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WE'RE GOING TO BE A HOTEL RICH. I MEAN, IF THESE ALL FINALLY COME TO FRUITION, ACTUALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE WITH UM, PUT THEIR, UM JUST BECAUSE I DON'T THINK PROSPER NEEDS AS MANY HOTELS ARE THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. WELL, MAYBE ANOTHER UNIVERSAL'S HERE. MAYBE I'M WRONG IN THAT. UM, BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. THE MULTI FAMILY IS IN A GOOD SPOT. SO UM , PROSPER NEEDS IT. THEY REALLY, REALLY DO NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS. YEAH I WOULD. I WOULD ECHO EVERYTHING EVERYBODY SAID WITHOUT REPEATING IT ALL. BUT YES, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING, MA'AM. AND THANK YOU FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TIME INTO IT. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT SETS PROSPEROUS SIDE IS OUR QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT. I THINK WE'VE BEEN SELECTED WITH OUR STANDARDS. WE'VE ALSO SLOWLY KIND OF GROWN UP AND DECIDED. HEY, WE'VE NEVER HAD A BUILDING THIS SIZE OR SCALE. SO YOU KNOW WHERE I AM WITH IT. I JUST WANT TO SEE SOME SORT OF TRIGGERS TIED TO THIS AS WELL BECAUSE I THINK IF IT HAPPENS EXACTLY LIKE THIS, SAYS IT'S A GREAT DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IS IT THE RIGHT SPOT? IS IT THE RIGHT? EXACT PROXIMITY? THE TOLLWAY HAVE ALWAYS LOOKED AT OUR MAJOR CORRIDORS AS THINGS WE HAVE TO GUARD VERY CLOSELY BECAUSE DUE TO OUR LAND, MASS. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF IT. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PRESS AND ROAD OR THROUGH 80 OR DNT MORE CREATIVE THAN ANYTHING, BUT WE GOT THREE MILES OF IT. WE HAVE TO BE DILIGENT WITH WITH THIS. SO IF WE COULD SOMEHOW INSTITUTE SOME SORT OF TRIGGERS INTO THIS TO DETERMINE THIS STUFF ACTUALLY COMES TO FRUITION AS PROPOSED. I WOULD AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PETERSON AS WELL. THE HOTEL PIECE I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE GO ALL IN AS AS PLANNED. BUT IN TERMS OF THE TAX BASE, IT WOULD BRING IN THE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT AGAIN, IF DELIVERED, AS PROPOSED. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE YOU KNOW, EMOTIONAL LOOK AT THAT. BUT THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN. ARE THERE TRIGGERS WE GET SOMEHOW TIED INTO THIS OR WHAT ARE THE FUTURE PROPOSALS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT ON A PHASED BASIS TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THOSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES THAT WE SPOKE TO? WE CAN WORK WITH THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY, LIKE THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT IN THE WEST SIDE OF OKAY, IF IT IS HERE, CAN WE LOOK AT ADDITIONAL SCREENING ADDITIONAL GREEN GREEN ADDITIONAL THINGS OR A BOMB OR SOMETHING? TO MAKE THOSE HOMEOWNERS COME TO A GOOD GOOD, GOOD AGREEMENT AND MAYBE EVEN HAVE THE DEVELOPERS PARTNER WITH THE TO MEET WITH HIM TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS ARE REALLY LIKED WHAT COSTCO DID WITH THE WESTSIDE THING, BECAUSE I KNOW IF IT WOULD BE. I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT VOICE IF IT WERE INJECT INTO MY HOME, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD IS. BUT AGAIN IF WE CAN DELIVER ON THIS, AND WE CAN WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND INSTITUTE TRIGGERS, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT FOR OUR TOWN, AND WE ALL KNOW WE COULD USE THE TAX BASE. AS WELL AND THE DNT IS GOING TO BE THE ABILITY TO BRING IT TO US, SO THAT'S RIGHT. APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER VAN WALTON. I GUESS TO ECHO EVERYONE'S COMMENTS. VERY SIMILAR THOUGHTS FIRST, MRS NUGENT. THANKS FOR BEING HERE APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION FOR OUR TOWN. EVERYONE DOES MATTER AND PROSPER. THAT'S BEEN THE MOTTO AND WE LISTEN TO EVERYBODY. KIND OF HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. WE'RE RECOMMENDING BODY WERE JUST A GROUP OF CITIZENS JUST LIKE ANYBODY IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING. AND WE TRY TO TAKE ALL
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THE FACTS. ALL THE DETAILS AND WE SEE A LOT OF CASES SOME OF US HAVE BEEN ON HERE MANY YEARS.AND WE TRY TO LOOK AND TRY TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE BEST QUALITY DEVELOPMENT MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN A BUNCH AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT THAT FRANKLY, ARE NOT AS GOOD AS WELL. IT'S BEEN PROPOSED OR NOT. AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE APPLICANTS PRESENTATION IN THE DETAIL IN THE INVESTMENT IN OUR TOWN. I MEAN, THIS IS A HUGE INVESTMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS IN THE DOLLARS, BUT THIS IS A VERY BIG ONE AND OVER MULTI YEARS BEFORE WE GET THERE APPRECIATE TOWN STAFFS WORK. ONE THING I DID KNOW, JUST LIKE MR VAN WILL SAID. I WROTE DOWN THE WORD TRIGGERS AS IT STANDS TODAY. IF WE MOVE FORWARD TO MOVE TO APPROVE THIS, THERE WERE NO TRIGGERS IN THE SOFT DENIAL. I GUESS THAT WAS OFFERED BY THE TOWN. THERE WERE NO TRIGGERS MENTIONED. CORRECT THERE'S NO TRIGGERS. AND UH SO THAT'S SOMETHING IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION, IF THAT MOTION WANTS TO PUT SOME TRIGGERS IN THERE, THIS GOES TO COUNSEL IN THE FEBRUARY 28 MILLION, SO THERE WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT TO COUNCIL FEBRUARY 28. SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW WE'RE MULTI YEARS BEFORE IT GETS THERE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ADVOCATES SAID THE TOWN HOMES WERE GOING TO BE THE FIRST PIECE. THAT MAY BE A STARTING POINT. IF WE PUT THAT, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED MOTION, SO WITH THAT I'LL TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. WITH THAT. I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THE TRIGGERS NECESSARILY, BUT THAT'S WHY I WAS MAKING THE COMMENT AROUND. YOU KNOW, BRING THIS TO LIFE, YOU KNOW, UM SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THOSE WHO ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT CAN YOU ARTICULATE ? MAYBE WHAT YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT A TRIGGER AND MAYBE GIVE A PATH WHOEVER BECAUSE YOU THREE SORT OF THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. AND A COMMENT ON THE HOTEL. UM BECAUSE I HAD TO SORT OF CONCERNS. MY COUNTER TO THAT IS . I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED IT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HIGHWAY. UM AND LOVE TO HAVE THAT TAX BASE AND THAT TAX REVENUE COMING IN, ESPECIALLY INCORPORATED IN THIS MULTI USE PLAN. IT'S NOT A FREESTANDING HOTEL, AND IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AT THIS POINT, THE NICEST HOTEL THAT WE MIGHT HAVE, AND THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE WHERE I PUT MY PARENTS. YOU KNOW, MY MOM SHE CAME INTO DRIVE OR CAN STAY WITH ME VERSUS SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES, NOT DEGRADING ANY OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS. BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT FEELS LIKE THAT FITS THIS AND EVEN FOR THE MIXED USE DEPARTMENTS IN THE MIXED USED TOWN HOMES AGAIN. MOM AND DAD GRANDCHILDREN, FAMILIES FROM FROM OUR STATE OR OUT OF THE AREA COMING TO, YOU KNOW, SEE SOMEBODY THEY CAN STAY RIGHT THERE. SO I DON'T SEE THE HOTEL IS LIKE A BIG CONCERN BECAUSE IT IS A STEP ABOVE EVERYTHING WE HAVE, BUT IT FITS PERFECTLY WITH IMPLANTS. I JUST WANTED TO ARTICULATE THAT AS SORT OF A COUNTER TO THAT THINKING, BUT I AM VERY INTERESTED IN MY PEERS. ARTICULATING WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON THE TRIGGER. SO AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SPECIFIC. I THINK WE NEED THE HOTELS. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE THE PROBABLY THE HIGHEST AND AT THIS POINT THAT WE'VE SEEN, BUT THAT'S MY OPINION. WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE AS A TRIGGER. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. IF WE HAVE A MOTION IS MAYBE WE PUT THE TRIGGER KIND OF WHAT THE APPLICANT TOLD US VERBALLY THAT WE DO THE TOWN HOMES BORDERING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND MAYBE THESE FOR SALE CONDOS. YOU KIND OF GET THAT PART BUILT IN FIRST. AND THEN THEY BUILD THE REST OF IT OUT. IT SOUNDED LIKE THAT KIND OF FOLLOWING WHAT YOU WERE THINKING ANYWAY. BUT I THINK YOU CAN. YES. GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO I THINK THE CONDOS HAVE A RETAIL COMPONENT, RIGHT? AND THE RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL KIND OF GO TOGETHER JUST FROM THE ABILITY TO SATISFIED THE AMOUNT OF PATRONS SO. I THINK WE'D BE OPEN TO TRIGGER TRIGGER THAT WOULD START. TO THE SINGLE STORY, RETAIL OR. THAT AREA, ALONG WITH THE TOWN HOMES THAT DIVIDING LINE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT AND THEN BEYOND THAT, I JUST. THE WORD OF CAUTION. THERE'S SO MANY MARKET CONSTRAINTS WITH THAT THAT I DON'T WANT TO GET DOWN WITH. BUT PERHAPS START SO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO WORK THAT'S BASICALLY WORKING WEST AND EAST.
MHM YEAH. WHITE LINES WERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT CANCER. CAN I ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? PROBABLY FOR DAVID. I'M NOT SURE SO IN TERMS OF BEYOND THIS PROJECT, GIVEN THE TIME THAT SO MUCH CAN CHANGE THE TIME INVOLVED. WHAT WOULD BE OUR APPROVAL PROCESS OR COUNCIL APPROVAL PROCESS IN PHASES? DOES THAT WILL THAT COME TO US? THE WESTERNMOST FIRST TOWN HOMES AND THEN THROUGH THAT, AND WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SO WE'RE NOT COMMITTING TO EVERYTHING AS IS OR WE ARE WHAT I GUESS. WHAT ARE THE RESTRAINTS OF THAT? YEAH SO AGAIN. UM THERE WASN'T ANY PHASING. UM WORDAGE IN THE PD, RIGHT? SO. SO IF THERE ARE TRIGGERS, AND, UM, THAT WOULD GO , BUT WE WOULD DO A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT WOULD COME TO THE TOWN OR TO COME TO PNG FOR
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APPROVAL. UM THAT PRETTY MUCH STARTS SUBDIVIDING A LOT. UM AND THEN, TYPICALLY, IT WOULD FOLLOWED BY A SITE PLAN IF THERE ARE TRIGGERS THAT TALKS ABOUT HEY, THE WESTERN, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDISTRICT MUST DEVELOP PRIOR TO DEVELOPMENT OF X Y AND Z. WE CAN LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW LIKE WESTSIDE DID SOMETHING LIKE PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A T CEO OR CEO. UM SO, YES. SO WE COULD WE, YOU WOULD. YOU WOULD ULTIMATELY GET BACK. EVERYTHING STARTED PRELIMINARY PIPELINE SITE PLAN. UM AND YOU WOULD BE ULTIMATELY DISTILL APPROVAL LIKE WE NORMALLY DO TODAY. UM AND THEN, IF YOU DO HAVE THAT TRIGGERS, AND THEN YOU WOULD SEE THAT INCREMENTAL OF ISSUANCE OF CEOS , OKAY, CAN I ASK CLARIFYING? JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SO BARNEY TRIGGERS OR TRIGGERS BECAUSE I GOT THAT EVERY BUILDING RIGHT NOW IS JUST CONCEPTUAL. EVERY BUILDING WILL HAVE TO COME. I MEAN, IF EVERYTHING CAME HERE IN PIECES OF CORRAL RICK CAME TOGETHER TO US. EVERYTHING'S STILL GOT A LOT OF APPROVALS THAT START HERE. SO I MEAN, I MEAN, TO MY POINT. THAT'S WHY WE AS WELL AS SAYING THAT YOU KNOW WHEN THEY COME HERE LATER ON THEY REALLY GOT TO BRING IT TO US, AND I'M GONNA BE I'M GONNA PULLING THIS OUT OF OUR POCKET OR WHOEVER SITTING IN THESE CHAIRS OUT TO PULL IT OUT OF THIS POCKET OUT OF THEIR POCKETS AND SAYING NO, THAT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THAT. SO LET'S YOU KNOW, LET'S RETHINK THAT, AND THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT DESIGN PLANS. MY SPEAKING RIGHT. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT MY THINKING IS RIGHT BECAUSE I THINK WE STILL HAVE A THIS IS REALLY TO ME LIKE A CONCEPTUAL OVERALL PLAN AND NOW AS WHEN THEY START PROVIDING US DETAILED PLANS AND DETAILED BUILDINGS.WITH YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE STILL GOT A LOT OF INPUT. FOR HOW THIS THING ACTUALLY GROWS UP TRIGGERS NEEDED TODAY. TO BE HONEST, I MEAN, WE'RE SO EARLY ON. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TRIGGERED, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO PUT THE TRIGGERS IF YOU REALLY THINK OF WEST TO EAST BUILDING PLAN. I'M NOT. I'M NOT. I'M JUST SAYING WHAT, REGARDLESS OF THE TRIGGERS. THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO TABLE THE TRIGGERS. WE STILL HAVE US AND COUNCIL COMBINED.
WITH STAFF WILL HAVE TREMENDOUS SAY OVER EVERY ONE OF THESE LITTLE SQUARES. YOU KNOW THAT'S REPRESENTED ON HERE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A THIS IS NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE. END UP STANDING APPROVAL. WELL, MY THING AGAINST THE TRIGGERS ARE NONE OF US HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL. TO BE ABLE TO PREDICT THE REAL ESTATE MARKET IS IT GOING TO BE COMMERCIALLY STRONG IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENTIAL STRAW. NO ONE KNOWS . PUT THAT ON THERE. IT'S LIKE YOU JUST YOURSELF. YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE HANGING YOURSELF OUT TO DRIVE. YES I JUST I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT'S PRUDENT.
CAN I ASK? I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE WILLING TO SHARE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE. FRONT FUNDING STANDPOINT. HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU IN YOUR FUNDING TO MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN? BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS WE APPROVE. WE START AND THEN WE'RE STUCK WITH A PARTIAL SOMETHING. I'M CURIOUS THAT FUNDING AS ONE COLLECTIVE PROJECT. OBVIOUSLY THE HOTEL IS GOING TO COME IN AND DO THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE WILLING TO DISCLOSE OR SHARE. WELL MY COMPANY IS THE DEVELOPER PERSONA HERE IS WITH THE CAPITAL GROUP. SO THE FUNDING HAS ALREADY COME TOGETHER, SO WE HAD THE CAPITAL. THE KNOW HOW BOOTS ON THE GROUND DIVISION. I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO. ASSUMING WE CAN GET SHAWNEE TRAIL BUILT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED OFFSITE. I THINK THE MARKETS THERE, CERTAINLY FOR THE TOWN HOMES THEY WON BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER PETERSON. I THINK A TRIGGER TO FOCUS ON ONE USE TYPE. COULD HURT US DOWN THE ROAD. SO I LIKE I LIKE THE MARKET TO MAYBE DICTATE, IF POSSIBLE, COULD GO EITHER WAY, WE COULD BE PUTTING IT INTO PROTECTIVE ACTUALLY HURTING THE TALENT. AND TOMMY YOUR QUESTION, TOO, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR WITH THE TOLLWAY BUT DOWN OFF OF I THINK IT'S WHAT IS IT? UH NOT STONE BERG. IT'S LEBANON, JUST SOUTH OF LEBANON ON THE EAST SIDE. IT WAS CALLED THE $5 BILLION MILE AND A GROUP CAME IN AND DOUGLAS MASSIVE WHOLE CONCRETE FOR STRUCTURE. IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR SIX YEARS. SO THAT YEAH, EXACTLY. THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T. WE'RE NOT A BIG FRISCO WERE THIS BIG AND SO YOU'VE GOT TWO STOPS OR TWO OFF RAMPS AND PROSPER. AND THEN THAT'S IT. YOU'RE DONE HERE IN SALINA OR YOUR SOUTH 3 80. SO WE JUST THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION TO MY 800.2 FOLD ONE FOR US.
THAT'S EXACTLY WE GOTTA GUARD THAT THREE MILES CLOSELY. ALSO FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ADJACENT TO THAT THEY LOOK AT AN EMPTY CONCRETE WALL FOR 10 YEARS AND I DON'T WANT THAT FOR THEM OR FOR US BECAUSE IT IS PRECIOUS SPACE AT WELL, I CAN TELL YOU NOW THE VISION IS TO NOT BUILD SPEC PRODUCT. UH WE WANT TO SEE A MARKET FOR IT. WE WANT TO SEE PRE LEASING. CERTAINLY FOR THE OFFICE, AT LEAST 50% JUST TO GIVE YOUUR LOOK OUR THINKING. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE RETAIL THE SMALLER RETAIL BUILDINGS HAVE SHOWN ME THAT WOULD BE A PRACTICAL SPEC OPPORTUNITY JUST NOT A BIG INVESTMENT, BUT. SO BY AND LARGE , I THINK WE'RE CONSERVATIVE. WE
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WANT USERS IN TOW BEFORE WE START PROJECTS. NOW YOU KNOW, I THINK AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE TRIGGERS. JUST HEARING THROUGH THE UPDATED CONVERSATION AND AFFIRMING THAT WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF STILL A LOT OF LEVELS OF APPROVAL. YOU KNOW, EVEN IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS, AS IS CONCEPTUALLY THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF OVERSIGHT THAT WE CAN DO. I SORT OF WANT THIS PROJECT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AND I DO FEAR. THIS IS A 5 TO 7 YEAR PROJECT DEPENDING ON HOW IT ALL FINDS OUT. WE COULD EITHER BE DESPERATELY NEEDING MORE RESIDENTIAL IN THE MARKET IS GOING TO FORCED THEM TO TRY TO DO IT FASTER OR THEY MIGHT NEED IT SLOWER DOWN, AND WE MIGHT NEED THE RETAIL AND APARTMENTS FIRST SAW A SORT OF I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN THAT RIGHT NOW.BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SO MUCH SAY OVER THE NEXT 5 TO 7 YEARS ON THIS PROJECT TO BRING IT IN PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER. THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF MY UPDATED THINKING, BECAUSE I WAS VERY CURIOUS ON THE TRIGGERS. I THOUGHT THEY WERE. BUT IF VERY INSIGHTFUL. AND I WOULDN'T OPPOSE THE MOTION AGAINST IT. BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED IT. WELL, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WE HAVE SEVERAL STOCK GAPS STILL AS WELL. MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT GIVEN THE FARM FARM AWAY. BUT JUST GIVE IT ALL THIS MOVING ON. SO THAT THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, UH, I MOVED TO APPROVE AGENDA AND NUMBER FIVE AS PRESENTED. SECOND ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ADAM NUMBER FIVE AS PRESENTED FROM COMMISSIONER PETTIS. I THINK WE HAD A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HARRIS, FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER CHARLES HEARD IT CORRECTLY. UH SO LET'S THE MOTION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO APPROVE ADAM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 0. IT IS APPROVED. THANK YOU APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. THAT WILL GO TO COUNCIL FEBRUARY
[6. Review actions taken by the Town Council and possibly direct Town Staff to schedule topic(s) for discussion at a future meeting.]
28TH ADAM, NUMBER SIX THIS EVENING REVIEW ACTIONS TAKEN BY TOWN COUNCIL AND POSSIBLY DIRECT COUNT STAFF FOR FUTURE CONVERSATION TOPIC. UM SO THE LAST THING THAT WE'VE TALKED TO TOWN COUNCIL WAS UM THE, UH. YES CPS FOR THE DAYCARE. THE SCP FOR THE COMMUNICATION TOWER WAS APPROVED. UM, SUBJECT TO MAKING SURE THAT THE TOWER LOOKED LIKE THE WATER TOWER AND THEN ON THE STREET ZONING OFF OF TWO OH, SEVENTIES BROADWAY AND THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD RECENTLY, UM THERE WERE APPROVED AT COUNCIL. UM THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS MENTIONED UM, BUT ANY OTHER TOPICS ARE THINGS FOR STAFF. LOOK AT SOME OTHER BEATINGS ABOUT WHAT'S OUR NEXT. DID THAT LOOK LIKE TO BE THE LAST MEETING FOR COMMISSIONER PETERSON? I KNOW WE'RE GONNA, UM , YEAH. NO, UM, WE. FIX ME GO.UM RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE AGAIN. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF PENDING BIG PROJECTS IN THE IN THE TOWN, BUT, UM, WE HAD A REECE MILL TODAY. NO BIG ZONING CASES CAME BACK IN. WE MIGHT HAVE A SO IT'S REALLY JUST UP IN THE AIR, BUT I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE ANYTHING AS BIG AS WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. SO THANKS VERY MUCH. I'M GONNA SPEED THIS LONG. I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS THAT NEED TO DEPART HERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REAL QUICK. I DON'T WANT ANYBODY OFF. NO, NO, NO, THAT'S FINE. I CAN WAIT TILL NEXT NUMBER SEVEN. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN ITEM SEVEN EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER BECAUSE MY WIFE'S GONNA KEEP BLOWING ME HAVE A SECOND PRESSURE TRIALS. FAVORITE TO ADJOURN REASON. HAND MOTION CARRIES 60.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.