Jan 10, 2023 Town Council

[Call to Order/ Roll Call.]

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ALL RIGHT. ALL GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. OUR TIME IS 6 15. SO WE'LL LET EVERYBODY JUST GET GET ORGANIZED HERE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 6 15 SO AH, HEY, SO I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH JUST THINKING, UH, THE CITIZENS OF PROSPER WHO ARE HERE THIS EVENING, AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS HERE FOR BEING WILLING TO BE ENGAGED IN THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING WITH THAT GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE PROSPER TOWN COUNCIL MEETING TODAY IS TUESDAY, JANUARY 10TH 2023 AT 6 15. I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER WE'VE GOT A NEW SECTION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO COVER DECORUM. SO I APOLOGIZE.

PLEASE LET ME READ THIS TO EVERYONE. CITIZENS AND OTHER VISITORS ATTENDING TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS SHALL OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL. ANY PERSON MAKING PERSONAL IMPORTANT , PROFANE OR SLANDERS REMARKS OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE TOWN COUNCIL OR WHILE ATTENDING THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING SHALL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM IF SO, DIRECTED BY THE MAYOR OR PRESIDING OFFICER. AND THAT PERSON SHALL BE BARRED FROM FURTHER TENANTS BEFORE THE TOWN COUNCIL DURING THAT SESSION OF THE MEETING. DISRUPTION OF A PUBLIC MEETING CAN CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF SECTION 42.5 OF THE TEXAS PENAL CODE. THAT WILL DO A CALLED ROLL CALL WE HAVE IN ATTENDANCE. THE MAYOR PRO TEM, JEFF HODGES, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM CRAIG ANDRES. COUNCILMAN CURREN COUNCILMAN CAPTAIN COUNCILWOMAN BARLEY AND COUNCILMAN RAY UH, AT THIS TIME , THEN I'D LIKE TO INVITE MIKE MARTIN TO PLEASE COME UP AND PROVIDE. THE INVOCATION WILL FOLLOW THAT WITH OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MR MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR SERVING OUR TOWN SO WELL, YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND WE'RE APPRECIATIVE AND AS YOU SAID, MR MAYOR, EVERYBODY HERE FROM TOWN PARTICIPATING IN THIS . IT'S UH, IT'S HOW IT SHOULD WORK, RIGHT? JOIN ME AND LET'S PRAY HEAVENLY FATHER. I JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE GIVEN THIS TOWN GIVEN EACH OF US AND I THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNCIL , OUR TOWN STAFF, I THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY THAT SERVES THIS TOWN SO WELL AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT SERVE THIS TOWN THAT ARE HURTING AND INJURED AND WE PRAY FOR HEALTH AND WE PRAY FOR QUICK HEALING. WE HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS OF STAFF WHO WHO ARE ARE IN NEED OF PHYSICAL HEALTH AND LORD, WE PRAY HEALTH OVER THEM AS WELL. YOU'RE THE GREAT PHYSICIAN. YOU'RE THE GREAT HEALER. AND IF YOU HEAL THEM BY YOUR HAND OR YOU HEALED THEM BY A DOCTOR. A NURSE ATTACK. ALL GLORY GOES TO YOU, LORD. I JUST PRAY THAT THERE IS ALWAYS WISDOM IN THIS ROOM. ALWAYS WISDOM FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LEAD OUR TOWN. WE PRAY BLESSINGLE AND PEACE OVER THEM, AND WE PRAY, GRACE AND MERCY AND KNOWLEDGE AS THEY LEAD US. WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THEM. LORD JUST WORK THROUGH THEM TO HELP OUR TOWN. IT'S IN YOUR SON'S NAME, EVERYBODY SAID AMEN . PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE AMERICAN FLAG. MY PLEASURE. OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. SHOULD RECOVER. FOR WHICH IT STANDS. FOUNDATION. EFFECTIVE. ONE STATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT

[Announcements of recent and upcoming events.]

SERVICE IS OPEN TO ALL PROSPER RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES FREE OF CHARGE. HERE'S A REMINDER OF THE TOWN OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY, JANUARY 16TH FOR THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR HOLIDAY.

THERE WILL BE NO TRASH SERVICE DELAYS DUE TO THIS HOLIDAY. PLEASE JOIN MAYOR BRISTOL AND PROSPEROUS T SUPERINTENDENT DR HOLLY FERGUSON FOR THE STATE OF THE COMMUNION COMMUNITY HOSTED ON BY THE PROSPER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND PRESENTED BY CHILDREN'S HEALTH ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 24TH FROM 11:30 A.M. TO ONE P.M. FOR A YEAR IN RECAP, AND WHAT EXCITING THINGS ARE A HIT IN 2023. BECAUSE CITIZENS MAY REGISTER FOR THE EVENT AT THE PROSPER CHAMBER .COM.

RESIDENTS MAY CHECK OUT ALL THE EXCITING WINTER PROGRAMS BEING OFFERED AT THE LIBRARY THAT ARE BEGINNING SATURDAY, JANUARY 21ST PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE FOR ALL AGES. THE WINNER PROGRAMS ON THE LIBRARY PAGE OF THE TOWN'S WEBSITE BY CLICKING ON THE LINK AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE. THANK

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[CONSENT AGENDA]

STAND IN FRONT. JEFF IF YOU GET OUT THERE, PLEASE. SO IT'S ONE OF THEIR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WAS THE, UH ENDING OF OUR CONTRACT WITH PUREFOY AND PATERSON, WHICH MR PATTERSON HAS BEEN OUR INTERIM TOWN MANAGER. AND SO IN APPRECIATION FOR THAT THE TOWN HAS PREPARED A PLAQUE.

IN GRATEFUL APPRECIATION FOR HIS SERVICE AS INTERIM TOWN MANAGER , HE POSITIONED PROSPER FOR SUCCESS WITH GRACE, DEDICATION AND INSIGHT PRESENTED TODAY, JANUARY 10TH 2023 THE WORDS DON'T SAY ENOUGH ON BEHALF OF OUR COUNCIL. WE ARE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR EFFORT. AND THE TIME THE YEARS SPENT WITH US, YOU HAVE CHANGED OUR TOWN FOR THE BETTER AND YOU'VE LEFT A MARK THAT WILL WILL SUSTAIN FOR A LONG TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND. SO IN ADDITION, MUCH LIKE, UH, ATHLETES HAVING THEIR JERSEYS RETIRED. YEAH PRO TEM HAS AN ITEM FOR YOU, ONCE SO PROUDLY WAS DISPLAYED IN OUR LIBRARY OF RON. WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL DISPLAY THIS MAYBE IN YOUR HOME OFFICE. LOOK THERE YOU GO. YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES. I WANNA HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. OKAY ANYWAY, MR PATTERSON. FEW WORDS , IF YOU WOULD, UM, I WOULD SIMPLY SAY THAT IT WAS MY HONOR.

PRIVILEGE. TO BE ABLE TO WORK ALONGSIDE THE WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL TEAM THAT YOU HAVE HERE. INCREDIBLE FUTURE. IT'S ALREADY A GREAT PLACE. JUST ON THE RIGHT. I'LL TELL YOU THAT.

YOU KNOW SOMEBODY THE OTHER DAY WAS THANKING ME FOR SOMETHING. THAT YOU WERE ACTUALLY. PRETTY EASY TO LEAVE. AND SO THAT IS REALLY WHAT IS STAYING BEHIND AND WILL CONTINUE. AND ALSO THANK YOU TO EACH OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION. I'LL SAY AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME. AH BUT ALSO I WILL SAY THIS THAT YOU KNOW THE TOWN IS VERY BLESSED TO HAVE YOU AS THEIR LEADERSHIP. AND. YOU KNOW , I DON'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY. THAT PEOPLE VOLUNTEER. THEIR TIME.

COME AND DO THIS. A COUPLE OF TIMES A MONTH AT A MEETING. WERE SOLELY. DEDICATED. SURE. IT'S

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THANK YOU ALSO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT ITEM IS CITIZENS COMMENTS. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. ON ANY TOPIC. HOWEVER THE COUNCIL IS UNABLE TO DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY TOPIC NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. PLEASE COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST FORM AND PRESENTED TO THE TOWN SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE MEETING. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. IF MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS WISH TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC THEY MAY YIELD THERE THREE MINUTES TO ONE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTED TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. ALL INDIVIDUALS YIELDING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESIDENT. THE MEETING IN THE APPOINTED INDIVIDUAL WILL BE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. IS THERE. ANYONE HERE AT THIS TIME WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDRESSED THE COUNCIL FOR CITIZENS COMMENTS. OKAY IN THAT CASE, OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE REGULAR AGENDA. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, PLEASE FILL OUT A PUBLIC COMMENT, REQUEST FORM AND PRESENTED TO THE TOWN SECRETARY, PREFERABLY BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.7 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL FOR ITEMS LISTED AS PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE RECOGNIZED WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK ON NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THEY MAY EITHER ADDRESS THE COUNCIL DURING THE CITIZENS COMMENT

[10. Receive an update regarding the Guaranteed Maximum Price (GMP) for the Fire Station No. 4 project. (SB)]

UM HOWEVER PART OF THAT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT WAS DUE TO A NATURAL GAS LINE WHEN WE DID THE ORIGINAL SURVEYS EARLIER THIS YEAR. SURE ENOUGH, IT SHOWED A GAS LINE IN FRONT OF RUNNING DOWN PROSPER TRAIL, SO WE BELIEVE THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE JUST A SIMPLE BORE UNDERNEATH THE ROADWAY. WHAT LATER WAS DETERMINED AFTER OUR AUGUST 23RD MEETING WHEN WE COME IN? THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PRONOUNCED ONE OKAY OR ONE OAK, BUT IT'S A TRANSMISSION

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IT'S NOT EASY TO GET, UH, TO GET A BID FROM THE NATURAL GAS FROM THE GAS COMPANY AND THEY CAME BACK AND TOLD US THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE AN ESTIMATE OF $195,000 TO FINISH THE GAS LINE ONTO THE SITE. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THAT YOU CAN SEE ON TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THAT WE ALSO HAD IN THE, UH THIS FISCAL YEAR. 23 C I P BUDGET THERE WAS 400,000 BUDGETED FOR A SEWER LINE THAT CAN SERVE OTHER PROJECTS LATER, INCLUDING THE PARK FACILITIES. NOW THE FUTURE FIRE STATION ALONG WITH ANYTHING ELSE THAT DEVELOPS IN THAT AREA . UM, WE ALSO ORDERED BACK IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. FIRE ENGINE FORWARD MEDIC FOR KNOWING THAT WE PROBABLY WERE NOT GOING TO PUT THAT MEDICAL SERVICE UNTIL WE REACHED THE VOLUME THAT WE FELT THAT IT WAS NECESSARY.

BECAUSE WE ALSO ADMITTED THREE COMING ON, BUT WE WERE THE REASON FOR THAT. IT WAS EXPLAINING TO TRY TO GET IN FRONT OF IT. SOME OF THE COST ESCALATIONS THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE WHEN IT COMES TO APPARATUS. UM SO THOSE GET ORDERED IN APRIL OF 2022 THE DELIVERY DATE FOR THE ENGINE FOR ENGINE FORCE, SCHEDULED EARLY IN 2024 MEDIC FOR THE SCHEDULE IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. SO THE ESTIMATE THAT THAT WE GAVE WITH ESCALATIONS WE BELIEVED THE ESTIMATE WAS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 9 9,000,023 3 46. THEN WE HAD THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BUDGET, WHICH IS PRIMARILY THE ARCHITECT AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, UH ON THAT YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF GEOTECHNICAL ON THERE, AND ALSO PRECONSTRUCTION FEES FOR POPE. CONSTRUCTION OF $15,000. SO THEN WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE IN SOME OF THE AREAS THE GMP CAME IN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. WE WERE ABLE TO SHAVE OFF ABOUT 200,000 AFTER WE BROKE DOWN THE FF ANY AND SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT COSTS THAT WE FELT COMFORTABLE THAT WE COULD SHAVE ABOUT 200,000 OFF OF THAT. THAT STILL LEFT US, UH, EVEN FROM THE ESTIMATE THAT WE HAD IF YOU COUNT THE GAS LINE IN, UH, IT WAS $12,285,604. THAT WHERE IT CAME IN TODAY, WHEN THE GMP THE ORIGINAL G M B CAME BACK. WE WENT BACK THROUGH THINGS THAT, UH, FOR PROBABLY A 3RD AND 1/4 TIME TO TRY TO FIND ANYTHING THAT WE COULD TO REMOVE. IT WAS MINIMAL. THERE WAS THINGS THAT REALLY WON'T AFFECT THE BUILDING . UM AT LEAST TWO TO THE HUMAN EYE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO KNOCK A LITTLE BIT OFF OF IT. BUT IT ALL ALL IN WE WERE ABOUT 12,000 TO 85. SO I DO KNOW THAT THAT'S A CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN WHAT THE BUDGET WAS FOR, UM, IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR WHEN WE CAME BACK AND WAS AFRAID OF THAT I DID ASK FOR, UM, DIRECTION BECAUSE I HAD ONCE WE GET THE, UH, DESIGN DEVELOPMENT DONE. WE HAD TO GET INTO THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WHERE THEY WERE. THE ARCHITECT ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH AND DOES THE DRAWINGS FOR THE TO GET READY TO BUILD. AND UNFORTUNATELY IT CAME IN WHAT WE ESTIMATED FOR FAIRLY CLOSE WITHIN ABOUT 1% IF YOU EXCLUDE THE GAS LINE, SO, UH, THERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, UH THAT I LOOKED AT. BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THIS TOWN AND WE'RE GROWING LEAPS AND BOUNDS. UM FOR AN EXAMPLE I LOOKED UP YESTERDAY, ACTUALLY DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY. UM AND WE'RE UP AGAINST 16% AND CALL VOLUME JUST THIS YEAR ALONE IN 93% OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

AND I UNDERSTAND, UH, YOU KNOW THE COST. IT'S NOT ONLY THE BUILDING, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE PERSONNEL EXPENSES THAT COME WITH THAT. SO I DID LOOK AT IT AND TALK TO STAFF AND THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THE LAY HIRING FOR THE PERSONNEL RELOCATING AN ENGINEER, AN AMBULANCE OVER TO STATION FORWARD TO AT LEAST GIVE SOME COVERAGE OVER THERE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON A TEMPORARY BASIS. UM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I WANNA KNOCK ON WOOD HERE. UM RIGHT NOW, EVEN WITH SPEAKING WITH POPE, WE'RE ON TRACK. EVERYTHING IS NOT ONLY ON TRACK, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO COME IN, HOPEFULLY. A LITTLE BIT AHEAD RIGHT NOW. I'M USING CONSERVATIVELY ABOUT 300,000, AND I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE BELOW THE $18 MILLION IN THAT WE HAD FOR CENTRAL. WE'RE PRETTY LATE IN THE GAME WITH THE STATION OPENING. UH, UM AROUND THE FIRST OF MAY SOMEWHERE RIGHT IN THAT PERCENTAGE E. AND THAT'S WHY I FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT THE ROOFS ARE ON. THANKS FOR DRIVING IN. UM AND MOST OF THE STUFF HAS ALREADY ORDERED AND WAITING TO COME IN. OR BE INSTALLED ONE OR THE OTHER , SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT SOME OTHER SAVINGS AND THINGS I WILL SAY WHEN IT COMES TO STAFFING. TRADITIONALLY WE LIKE TO HIRE THEM EARLY NORMALLY AT LEAST SIX MONTHS, MOST A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS WILL DO A YEAR. IT

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BUT LUCKILY JUST THROUGH GOOD RELATIONSHIPS BY THE IN CONVERSATION WAS THAT HE WOULD DO EVERYTHING HE COULD, ALONG WITH MR FRED CLIFFORD, WHO'S HERE WITH US TODAY, WHO'S KIND OF PROJECT MANAGEMENT FOR THEM WITH THIS PROJECT, AND THEY HAVE BEEN JUST EXTREMELY GOOD TO WORK WITH. UM WITH DOING THAT WITH THAT COUNCIL, I DO NEED DIRECTION. WE DID THIS TIME. I WANT TO DO IT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DID LAST. AND THAT WAS TO BRING IT FOR YOU. SO YOU WANTED TO GET IT IN YOUR HANDS AS EARLY AS WE COULD. SO YOU COULD LOOK AT IT AND MAKE A DETERMINATION HOW YOU WANTED TO PROCEED. WHETHER THAT WAS TO BRING BACK ON THE JANUARY 24TH FOR APPROVAL OR WHETHER THAT WAS TO DELAY THE PROJECT. AND IF SO, IF THE DECISION IS TO DELAY THE PROJECT WHAT TIME FRAME ARE YOU LOOKING AT? THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO BRING IT BACK. SO WITH THAT I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. I DO HAVE POKE INSTRUCTION HERE. MEMBERS FROM POPE, UM BRANDON COLE QUIT AND RUBY BLEDSOE ARE WITH US, ALONG WITH FRED CLIFFORD FROM TRW.

ALSO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OKAY. THANK YOU, CHIEF. SO WHILE WE GO THROUGH THIS WOULD WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A SEAT? THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MAKING THE EFFORT TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. IT IS NOTED SO. UM ALRIGHT WITH THAT COUNCIL. UH QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF AND OR CONTRACTORS AND I'LL START LET ME START. I'LL START WITH CHARLES. WELL. I'LL START OFF WITH JUST SUMMARIZING MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSE. I THINK I SAW TO SOME EMAILS TODAY. AND, UH, IT IS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. AND HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE. FOR A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE PROJECT. BRUCE. SEVERAL CATEGORIES. BUT WE ARE. AT THIS POINT, IT'S 2.4 MILLION LESS. IS THAT RIGHT, BOB? YES COUNCILOR 0.4 MILLION SHORT $10 MILLION MILLION BUDGED IT AND SO 12.4. AND THIS IS THIS. 12 POINT. WELL, THERE'S THE 12 MILLION TO 85. IS THAT THE NUMBER. WITH THE REDUCED AMOUNT FROM, UH, ARCHITECT. BUT, YOU KNOW. TO ME THAT YOU KNOW IS A CREATES A PROBLEM. AND SO I THINK WE TALKED LAST TIME THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. WE DISCUSSED THIS WHEN THEY CAME IN AND SAID IT WAS GONNA BE THIS MUCH WE TALKED ABOUT. CUTTING IT BACK, SCALING IT BACK. WHICH I THINK WE REACHED CONSENSUS. WE DIDN'T WANT TO SCALE IT BACK. AND INSTEAD WE SAID, LET'S GO TO BED AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET THIS TO A, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER THAT CAN WORK. BUT I THINK IT'S THE CHIEF SAID. IT'S COME OUT PRETTY MUCH IN LINE AND WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WERE AND SO MY TAKE ON IT IS WE NEED TO DEFER THIS AND I'D LIKE TO DEFER IT. THEN LOOK AT IT IN THIS COMING SUMMER WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET. AS A PART OF OUR UPDATE OF OUR BUDGET. AND SO WE LOOK WHERE WE'VE GOT SOME CAPITAL DELEGATED AVAILABLE FOR NEXT YEAR. BE SURE WE HAVE THE FUNDS THAT WERE COMMITTED THIS YEAR.

ALL 10 MILLION OF THOSE WHERE WE CAN GET TO THOSE AND THEN ADD TO THAT NEXT YEAR. ALSO THAT ALLOWS US TO SAVE SOME TIME. SAVE SOME MONEY ON STAFFING AS WE TALKED ABOUT SO THAT MY TAKE MY TAKE, AND WE DEFER THIS AND RE LOOK AT IT THIS SUMMER IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU.

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THAT'S FOR AN ENGINE COMPANY OF THREE PERSONNEL THAT WOULD HAVE A CAPTAIN, ONE DRIVER AND ONE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC DAILY, SO THERE'S THREE SHIFTS A TOTAL OF DYING. AND THEN IS THAT CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE I KNOW WE WERE GOING TO HIRE THEM EARLY OR WHAT PIECE OF THAT IS IN THEM. THAT IS NOT HAS NOT BEEN REQUESTED YET. SO THERE'S NO COMPONENT OF THAT THAT WE STATIONED FOR WOULD HAVE BEEN BUDGETED. NEXT YEAR, MAKING SURE THERE'S NO MONEY WHERE REALLY SAVING, THEREBY DELAYING IT RIGHT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET. UM I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE YOU WITH IT. IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH TODAY VERSUS GOING FORWARD LANE, YOU CAN SAVE THE MONEY. IT'S JUST NOT A VICIOUS BUDGET WILL BE OUT NEXT YEAR, BUT I'M JUST SAYING LIKE IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE ANYTHING AVAILABLE MORE MONEY AVAILABLE. I GUESS I SHOULD SAY THAT WRONG AND THEN, UM MY OTHER QUESTION WAS. I KNOW WE HAD ALREADY ORDERED THE ONE ENGINE AND IT'S GOING TO BE IN AND IF WE DELAY IT WILL CERTAINLY COME IN BEFORE IT'S FINISHED. WHERE WOULD THAT GO? WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT, AS YOU KNOW, TODAY. IF YOU'VE BEEN MANY OF THE STATIONS, IT'S PRETTY PACKED. WE DON'T LIKE BACK ENDS WITH ESPECIALLY LARGE APPARATUS LIKE ENGINES OR THE LADDER TRUCK . BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT MAYBE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN ANY KIND OF INTERIM PERIOD. UM, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH BUSTING AT THE SEAMS RIGHT NOW. EVEN THE 9 11 TRAILERS IN A IN A AN AIRPLANE.

HANGER THAT SOMEBODY HAS BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO LET US USE SO WE CAN WE CAN MAKE IT FIT. IT'S JUST IT'S LIKE A SARDINE CAN BE A LOT OF THINGS IN THERE, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK, SIR. THOSE ARE MY DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. I THINK. COUNCIL IN BERKELEY. OKAY, UM WELL. I. I AGREE WITH CHARLES, WITH ONE CAVEAT. I WAS HARD TO SAY, WASN'T IT? YEAH IT WAS HARD TO SAY, COULD YOU TELL US STRUGGLING, UM I DO AGREE WITH THE DELAY BECAUSE OF THE DOLLARS AND I THINK, UM, COMING UP WITH THE WITH THE SHORTFALL IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED FUNDS FOR THE CAPITAL DEDICATED FUNDS. WE DO NOT WANT TO SKINNY DOWN THE BUILDING. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE EVEN LOOKING AT THAT AS A POSSIBILITY. MY ONLY CAVEAT WOULD BE I WOULD NOT WANT TO DELAY BEYOND. GOING THROUGH THE GMP PROCESS OVER THE SUMMER SO THAT WE COULD START CONSTRUCTION ON OCTOBER 1ST. IN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. AND I STILL THINK YOU SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE OF THE DOLLARS FROM, UM FROM STAFF . YOU SAVE ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS WORTH OF SALARY. I DON'T LIKE THE I KNOW THAT. THE CHIEF IS TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION HERE. BUT I WOULD PREFER TO HIRE THE NEW PEOPLE AS USUAL. I DON'T I DON'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE TO MAKE IT WORK OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE OVERTIME OR HAVE GUYS STRETCHED. SO IN MY MIND, I THINK THE GOOD SOLUTION WOULD BE TO DELAY IT TO JUNE JULY GO THROUGH THE GMP PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, IT IS AND WE HAVE THE FUNDS OCTOBER 1ST IN THE CAPITAL DEDICATED, UM , ACCOUNT TO PAY FOR THAT. PLUS, WE'VE SAVED A LITTLE BIT OF ON THE ON THE PERSONAL SIDE. STILL, THOUGH, HIRING AS WE NORMALLY WOULD AND ANTICIPATION FOR THE OPENING, WHICH WOULD BE I GUESS.

JANUARY 2025. UM SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS? UM STRAIGHT FORWARD FOR ME. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN RAY. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR DOING THIS WORK AND GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE SEVERAL TIMES ALSO LIKE TO THANK MR WATFORD AND MR CLIFFORD FOR YOUR HELP AND FOCUS WELL TO KIND OF HELP US ARRIVE AND REPRESENT OUR MINDS AROUND THIS. I DO RECALL WHEN HE CAME BACK IN AUGUST 22. WE WERE LOOKING AT A $12 MILLION NUMBER. AND OUTSIDE OF THE NATURAL GAS LINE. WE'RE STILL ABOUT AT THAT NUMBER. UM I WOULD AGREE WITH TRIALS AND AMY ON POSTPONING OF THE STAFF HIRING, BUT I WOULD NOT CONCUR ON DELAYING THE PROJECT START FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. FIRST OFF. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING GO DOWN IN THE LAST ALMOST TWO YEARS, SO DELAYING THIS PROJECT TO START EVEN SIX MONTHS LATER. YEAH YOU WOULD HAVE THE CONTRACTUAL UM,

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MAYBE HAVE BOB EXPELLED A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT MARCUS HAD SAID. ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GAINING. CAN YOU ARTICULATE WHAT WE GAIN? IF WE GAIN ANYTHING, AND I KNOW YOU KIND OF HAVING TO LOOK IN A CRYSTAL BALL TO LOOK AT WHAT MATERIAL PRICES BECAUSE I HEAR IN THE WIND THAT YEAH, CONCRETE IS NOT COMING DOWN. BUT SOME OF THE AND THERE MAY NOT BE A LOT OF LUMBER IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT SOME PACKAGES ARE COMING DOWN. I HEAR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BOB, CAN YOU CAN YOU SHARE WITH US A LITTLE BIT? ON THAT. I REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INSIGHT ON THAT HEALING, OR PERHAPS ONE OF OUR ONE OF OUR CONTRACTORS. W THAT'S PROBABLY SINGING PROJECTS. WHO WANTS TO HANDLE THAT POKER BR W I WASN'T SURE WHERE TO DIRECT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. THANKS FOR HAVING ME THANKS SO AS FAR AS ESCALATION GOES, WE ARE, UH, NOT SEEING IT GO AWAY. IT IS SOMEWHAT FLATTENING COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST 24 MONTHS. OUR PROJECTIONS FOR 2023 OR SOMEWHERE HOVERING AROUND 5 TO 6. UH, FROM START A YEAR TO INTERVIEW. SOME THINGS ARE GOING UP LIKE YOU MENTIONED, UH PARTICULARLY M E P ITEMS AND MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL PLUMBING . THOSE THINGS ARE STILL CONTINUING TO RISE. WE ARE SEEING LABOR COSTS STILL TURNING UPWARDS, BUT THERE ARE SOME MATERIALS THAT ARE COMING DOWN.

HMM SO, YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, ANYWAY OF PROJECTING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE WE'VE GOT KIND OF ALL OF OUR OWN IDEAS. BUT DO WE HAVE ANY WAY OF PROJECTING WHERE WE WOULD BE PUSHING THIS OUT? THAT'S THAT'S THE MAGIC QUESTION , RIGHT? NO BUT I MEAN, IT'S A

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EVERYTHING IS ALLOCATED TO INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REALLOCATE. IN ORDER. TO SO LET'S BE LET'S BE SPECIFIC ON THAT BOB OR HEALING . SO IF THE COUNCIL DIRECTION TODAY IT'S GO. DOES THE COSTS DON'T MATTER. WHERE WHAT PROJECTS WOULD WE BE IMPACTING? I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND THAT IT GOES BACK TO THE C IP COMMITTEE. AND WE'D BE WITHDRAWING SOME OF THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS MAKE THAT PRIORITIZATION WOULD HATE FOR STAFF TO SPEAK FOR THE COMMUNITY. I'VE GOT A QUESTION. UM FOR THE FURNITURE, FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT ARE THOSE TIME DEPENDENT ON THE BUILDING. OR CAN THOSE BE WITH LIKE WITH THE STAFF IF WE'RE GOING TO DEFER THE STAFF A BIT IT'S OKAY TO SIT DOWN. PLEASE STAY COMPUTER. I'M SORRY, BUDDY. I'M OKAY. UM TRUST ME. I'VE BEEN HOBBLING ALL OVER THE HOUSE. SO THIS IS THE FINE.

SO YES, AND NO MUCH OF THAT EQUIPMENT CAN BE DEFERRED UNTIL PROBABLY WE'LL SEE IF. IT STARTED TODAY IT COULD PROBABLY BE DEFERRED TOO CLOSE TO THE END OF THE YEAR. THERE ARE SOME THINGS UH, THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE THERE WOULD BE SOME THINGS. UM THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS UP IN THE AIR. LIKE A. FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK WITH LEE ON FIBER ON THAT SITE. WE HAVE $80,000 BUDGETED. BUT IF THERE'S FIBER ON THAT SITE, UM WE COULD TRANSPORT INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT TOWER. WE COULD MOVE IT OVER AND HAVE FIBER. THOSE TYPE OF THINGS REALLY DON'T COME INTO PLAY UNTIL THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS . UH THAT WE WOULD NEED IT, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COMPUTERS AND PHONES STATION LEARNING. THEY DON'T EVEN THEY WON'T INSTALL THAT. THAT'S PROBABLY OUR BIGGEST TICKET ITEM OUT OF EPIPHANY. FITNESS EQUIPMENT. I CAN GET PRETTY PRETTY EASY. ALL THE COMPUTERS PHONES WENT ON THAT WE CAN NORMALLY HAVE WITHIN 30 TO 45 DAYS. UM THE RADIO SYSTEM ALERTING. IT'S FOR THIS BUILDING IS PROBABLY, UM WE ACTUALLY HAVE. DON'T. WE HAVE SOME FOR FUTURE APPARATUS THAT WE ORDERED, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WHEN WE WENT IN APRIL TO ORDER FOR THE FUTURE APPARATUS, THEY COULD BE RE UTILIZED AND THEN ORDERED LATER ON THAT APPARATUS ACTUALLY CAME IN. UM SO MOST OF THAT PROBABLY. SO CAN WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS? YOU COULD. YOU COULD HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS COULD COULD WAIT UNTIL THE STATION IS SET TO OPEN. I BELIEVE WE SAID, UH, APRIL SO IF THE STATION OPENED AROUND APRIL , IT COULD WAIT UNTIL THE FIRST OF 2024 IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY. I WOULD NEED TO GET SOME OF THAT STUFF ORDERED. SO I COULD POSTPONE THAT AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER THERE'S SOME AND UM, FORGIVE ME HERE IN THE. IN OTHER DEVELOPMENT COSTS. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO UP FRONT. BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME THINGS THAT WOULD NOT BE DUE TO THE END. FOR INSTANCE, WE

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KIND OF ON THAT SAME VEIN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM SO WE HAVE THE 10 MILLION, BUT IS THAT IN CAPACITY AND WE ALREADY TAKEN THE DEBT IS THERE IF WE DON'T DO IT, WOULD THERE BE A SAVINGS? THE 10 MILLION CONSISTS OF. 600,000 THAT WAS ISSUED THIS LAST YEAR. 7.9 MILLION OF PLANNED. THAT INSURANCE FOR THIS YEAR. AND 1.5 MILLION OF CAPITAL DEDICATED. ANYTHING ELSE, CHRIS? I GUESS IF WE DON'T DO IT IF WE DELAY IT IS THERE A BALLPARK ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH THAT SAVES YOU KNOW, INTERESTING. WELL. OR WHAT? WE PROBABLY WHAT WE WOULD DO SINCE WE ALREADY LEVIED THE DEBT SERVICE. WE WOULD. THEN GO BACK TO THE C IP COMMITTEE AND SAY WE HAVE A SEVEN $0.9 MILLION OF PLANNED DEBT ISSUANCE. AND 1.5 MILLION OF CAPITAL DEDICATED THAT WE CAN SWAP. WITH A PROJECT NEXT YEAR. SO WHAT WOULD WE MOVE UP? AND THEN WE WOULD JUST KEEP MOVING ON ALL OUR PROJECTS THERE. NO SHORTAGE OF PROJECTS DONE. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET ALTHOUGH FACTOR, SO OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. ALRIGHT SO YEAH. THANK YOU, CHIEF. AND AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR MAKING AN EFFORT TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. I APPRECIATE IT. SO MY COMMENTS ARE KIND OF ROUND AND ROUND ABOUT SO NOTICE. WE STARTED WITH A BUDGET OF $8 MILLION OVER HERE AT 12.285 NOW. THAT IS A 50% INCREASE. IN THE OVERALL COST OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND I KNOW WE DON'T CONTROL THOSE COSTS. UH AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WE HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON HOWEVER, WE ALSO HAVE TO BE FISCAL STEWARDS OF OUR TAXPAYER MONIES AND I STRUGGLE WITH GETTING THIS DONE. ON THE TIMELINE THAT IS PROPOSED. I LIVE OVER IN THAT SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY, IT WOULD IT WOULD IMPROVE THE RESPONSE TIMES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AH! I JUST SEE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY YES, LET'S MOVE FORWARD ON THE CURRENT TIMELINE, THE OTHER IS WELL, YOU IMPACT YOU IMPERIL OTHER PROJECTS AT THE SAME TIME, SO, UH, I DO LIKE AMY'S, UH, COUNCILMAN BARTLEY'S MODIFIED PLAN. I'M NOT SURE THAT I AGREE WITH 100% ON THE DELAY OF A YEAR OR NOT HIRING HIM ON THE YEAR TIMEFRAME OR WHATEVER. AND I WOULD SAY I DEFER TO THE CHIEF ON WHAT THE APPROPRIATE TIME IS FOR TRAINING YOUR GUYS AND KNOWING THAT WE WANT TO DELAY THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. IF THAT'S WHAT THE CHOICES YOU CAN HEAR VIA WIDE VARIETY OF OPINIONS HERE. NONE OF WHICH SAY WE DON'T WANT THE STATION, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW DO WE MANAGE THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE? AND I THINK THE CAPITAL DEDICATED COMMITTEE ALREADY PUT A MILLION AND A HALF TOWARDS THIS PROJECT. SO WE'VE ALREADY WHEN YOU GET TO THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE 3.8 OF OUR 7.5. ON ONE PROJECT AND I STRUGGLED TO JUSTIFY THAT MYSELF. SO, UH, AND I DON'T HEAR ABSOLUTE CONSENSUS UPON FROM THE COUNCIL ON THE DIRECTION FORWARD, SO I'M GONNA WORK TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME MORE CONSENSUS. TO BE CLEAR ON THE STAFFING. WHAT I WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THEY WOULD THEY WOULD

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YOU'RE PUSHING THAT THOSE COSTS OUT. SO IN ESSENCE, YOU'RE BRINGING THIS PROJECT DOWN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT. DISAGREED THAT THAT BRINGS THE PROJECT DOWN YOUR SHIFTING IT INTO A FUTURE NUMBER. YES FOR THE NUMBER WE'RE LOOKING AT TO TRY TO EXECUTE TO FIND ANOTHER $1.2 MILLION 2.2 OR. I GET YOUR POINT, AND WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN ANOTHER MILLION AND A HALF. GOT YOU, BUT, YEAH. WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS SHIFTING THAT LIABILITY TO THE NEXT FISCAL. WHICH MEANS THAT PROBABLY NEXT FISCAL. WE'LL HAVE TO PROBABLY IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT THERE MAY NOT FIT INTO THE CRP PROJECTS WE WANT TO DO THAT YEAR, BUT I DON'T SEE IT LIKE YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME COST TO GO DOWN. BUT I IMAGINE SPY. SOME COSTS GO UP. SO DO THOSE NEUTRALIZE OUT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THOSE TWO. DOES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE? WELL AS FAR AS COSTS GOING UP OR DOWN ON THIS PROJECT. THE ROADS THAT WE WOULD SPEND THIS MONEY ON ARE GOING TO GO UP OR DOWN TO, SO WE NEED TO DO THOSE. WE NEED TO DO ALL THE PROJECTS. IF WE'RE ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS NOT HAVE COSTS GO UP, THEN WE NEED TO SPEND A TON OF MONEY NOW, BUT SEE THAT TO ME PHYSICAL RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT THIS IS FOR YOU KNOW 12.2 BILLION WE DON'T HAVE. AND WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED AND WE'VE SAID OUR PRIORITY WAS ROADS, BUT WE SAID THIS IS A PRIORITY. BUT LET'S MY TAKE IS IN THIS SUMMER WILL KNOW THAT WE HAVE. WE SHOULD VERY WELL HAVE SOME CAPITAL DEDICATED NEXT YEAR THAT THEN CAN PICK UP THE OTHER THE LAST 2.2 MILLION INSTEAD OF TAKING IT ALL OUT, PRETTY MUCH ALL OUT OF THIS YEAR ARE COMMITTING IT ALL THIS YEAR.

LET'S GET IT OUT OF NEXT YEAR. THIS SUMMER WHEN WE WHEN WE KNOW WHAT WE'VE GOT. THAT I THINK THAT'S FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE ACCELERATED THIS PROJECT AS IT WAS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE HAD THE WHEREWITHAL TO DO IT BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE WERE DOING IT AT AN EIGHT OR $10 MILLION NUMBER.

AND SO ONCE WE FOUND OUT THAT IT'S NOT EIGHT OR $10 MILLION IT SEEMS PRUDENT TO SAY. ALL RIGHT , LET'S PULL THE BRAKES A LITTLE BIT. MAYBE GO BACK TO THE SCHEDULE WE WERE ON BEFORE BEFORE WE ACCELERATED AND GO AHEAD AND ROLL THIS INTO NEXT YEAR AND DO IT THEN. WHEN THE MONEY'S WHEN THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE, WE DON'T HAVE TO PULL IT BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO PULL SOME MONEY FROM OTHER PROJECTS AT THIS POINT, WHICH THEN THOSE PROJECTS WILL GO UP IN COST, TOO. SO SAVING THIS MONEY THAT GOES UP AND COST ENGLISH KEEP OTHER PROJECTS FROM GOING UP IN COST THAT WE DIFFER. THE CHIEF ASKED US TO GIVE HIM A DEBT A DATE IF WE'RE DEFERRING IT FOR WHEN TO COME BACK, AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS THAT WE SAY BUT HE ASKED US TO GIVE US A DATE. YES WHEN THEY WANT TO BRING THIS BACK, HE SAID. GIVE US A, YOU KNOW, TIMEFRAME WHEN YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK. MY ANSWER THAT TO THE COMPROMISE WOULD BE DURING THE BUDGET SEASON. WE WILL ESTABLISH THAT NUMBER AND WELL, HE PROVIDE ME WANTS TO ESTABLISH A DATE THAT WE WOULD SHOOT FOR. REPLACING TODAY'S DATA. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSION AGAIN DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE WHEN WE GO WELL, WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO SPEND THIS MUCH IN CAPITAL DEDICATED. I WANT US TO COMMIT TO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN THE SUMMER. FOR SURE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION. OCTOBER 1ST. I JUST DON'T WANT US TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND KEEP KICKING. IT IS WHAT I'M SAYING. I MEAN, THAT'S FINE WITH ME TO COMMIT TO OCTOBER 1ST. BUT THIS SUMMER BEFORE THEY START THE REBID, WE'RE GOING TO GET A CHANCE TO RE LOOK AT WHERE WE SIT FINANCIALLY. AND SO THAT'S GREAT TO BE. I MEAN, OCTOBER 1ST IS A GOOD DAY TO SET AS OUR TARGET. TO START CONSTRUCTION FINISHED TO BE AT THE POINT WHERE IT TODAY, SO THAT'S A NINE MONTH DEFERRAL. SO TO ME, THAT'S A MAN MONTH SAVINGS IN IN STAFFING, BUT I THINK THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS REBIDDING PROCESS SOMETIME, PROBABLY AROUND WHAT? JUNE JUNE OR JULY WOULDN'T BE THAT FAR. COULD IT BE CARRIED THAT THAT FAR WOULD IT BE MORE LIKE AUGUST? OKAY JULY EARLY AUGUST OF THE BIDS WOULDN'T EXPIRE. 60 60 PLUS DAYS AND WE COULD DO

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WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THE DELAY. OF THE PROJECT. MAN EVERYBODY'S JUMPING OUT THERE. I KNOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO OF US THAT WANT TO DO THIS. NOW. AH! AND SO AT THE RISK OF WEDDING A YEAR. I GUESS I WOULD. I WOULD CONSIDER. GO ON WITH ANY SUGGESTION AND KIND OF MEETING IN THE MIDDLE. COUNCILMAN RAY HELPS. I'M LOOKING DOWN THE LINE HERE TO SEE IF I'VE GOT THREE OTHER VOTES DIDN'T PROJECT WOULD YOU DELAY BOB SAYS, OUR BOB SAYS HE'S NOT GOING TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE, SAYING, BOB, I'M JUST SAYING, OKAY, GUYS, WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. WHAT PROJECTS? WOULD YOU DELAY? THAT'S MY PROBLEM. COULD YOU JUST REVIEW FOR THE COUNCIL? THE C I P PROJECTS THAT WE DID APPROVE. CAPITAL OKAY? YEAH DEFINITELY. I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THAT'S THE QUICK WAY TO DO. IT IS ONE OF THOSE THAT HAVE TO BE KNOCKED OFF. OR MORE. YES.

LOOKING FOR WHAT'S WHAT'S POTENTIAL. I'M WITH YOU GUYS, AND I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO DO HAVE IT NOW. WE'VE ALREADY ORDERED THE STUFF, BUT NOW WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT POSITION. THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE ONE DECISION AND UNDERSTAND HOW THAT IMPLICATES YOU KNOW, THERE. TRY TO GET YOU ALL NOT TO SPEND THE 200,000 ON FIRST JUST SAYING, AMY, DO YOU HAVE THAT HUMAN? DO YOU HAVE THAT? THE C I P PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED FOR CAPITAL DEDICATED ANYBODY WITH ME? I MEAN, WE DID IT AT, UH. THE DOCUMENTARY STORY SURGERY. DO DO DO TOO. OKAY. YOU HAVE A HUMAN OKAY. HUMAN HAS TO GO AHEAD LIST. YOU WANT TO JUST GET THE PROJECT IN THE VALUE? THANK YOU. QUICK, SO OKAY. WELL WE HAVE THE 7.4 MILLION SO. AH WE ALLOCATED IN THE C I P WITH THE BUDGET AT 7.4. WE HAD 7 50,000 FOR FIRST THREE ELEMENTARY TO DNT. A MILLION FOR FISH TRAPPED IN THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION IN THE 1.5 FOR THE FISH TRAPS. SORRY, SLOWED DOWN JUST A SECOND BACK UP AND THEN THE FISH TRAP. WE PUT 750,000 FOR THE OVER RIDGE. WHEN WE AWARDED THAT PROJECT PROBLEM IS YOU'VE GOT LIMITED. PART USING. CORRECT YEAH. 7 50 FOR FISH TRAP WAS FOR WHICH WOULD FAIL TO DNT PROJECT, BUT IS IT FOR? UM IT'S ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OR COMMITTED ARE ALLOCATED THAT . YEAH GOTCHA. GOTCHA. AND THEN WE THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ADOPTED THE C I P BACK IN SEPTEMBER. AND THEN IT FISH TRAP AND G ROAD CONSTRUCTION THAT PROJECT AS WELL AND REWARDED THAT WE HAD TO ALLOCATE A MILLION DOLLARS. THAT'S 7.4. FOR THE OVERALL ON THAT PROJECT. AND THEN THE 1.5 MILLION FOR FIRE STATION NUMBER. FOUR SO THAT CAME OFF THE TOP.

AND THEN WHEN WE MET WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE THERE WERE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WE KNEW THERE WERE THERE WERE ON THE HORIZON THAT WE NEEDED TO ALLOCATE MONEY FOR FIRST WAS SAFETY WAY. WHERE THE MOU THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED BACK IN JULY OF LAST YEAR IT'S ABOUT $800,000 TO EXTEND SAFETY SAFETY WAY EAST OF COOK LANE. WE HAVE THE GORGEOUS MCKINLEY THE LIVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS OVER THERE WAS 700,000 THERE WERE ANTICIPATING THERE. WE HAVE ADDITIONAL COST OF APPROXIMATELY 200,000 ON OUR TILL US 3 80 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT

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THAT WE ALLOCATED, UH, AT THAT PROJECT WAS HAPPENING FOR THE DESIGN AVAILABLE. GOING TO GOLDMAN. CRAIG IS THAT AVAILABLE TO USE AVAILABLE IF WE HAVEN'T DONE A CONTRACT, SO I GET 551.

DON'T GET 11 ABOUT 1.4. YEAH. FIRST STREET. 1.4 ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING FROM QUITE CUSTER. SO THE ORIGINAL. ONE WE HAD THAT FIRE STATION NUMBER FOUR. WE HAD THE 1.5. THERE'S A BIG GUY. SO. OH, HEWLIN. I THINK WHAT I GET IS APPROXIMATELY 1.6 MILLION. THANK YOU, ROBIN. 1.6 BILLION OF FUNDS THAT WE COULD PULL INTO PULL FROM TO FUND THIS PROJECT. YOU COULD DO THAT. AND THEN THE FIRST THREE D AND T. TO COLEMAN, PROBABLY REALISTICALLY , JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONDEMNATION. YOU KNOW, WE HAD THAT SLATED TO START THIS PHYSICAL YEAR. IT'D PROBABLY BY LATE THIS YEAR, FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR TO START THAT PROJECT. SO I MEAN, GIVEN POTENTIAL OF CAPITAL DEDICATED OF NEXT YEAR COULD GO TOWARDS THAT MILLION IF YOU WANTED VERSUS HOW MUCH OF THAT AGAIN SO THAT MILLION THAT WE HAD ON FIRST STREET. DONT COLEMAN COULD POTENTIALLY ANOTHER MILLION ON THAT 1.6 POTENTIALLY 2.62 POINT FOUR SO THAT WOULD THAT WOULD WIPE OUT EVERYTHING. THE VAST MAJORITY WERE TALKING ABOUT. STILL DEFERRING THE MANAGER OR THE 1.3. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THAT'S NOT DEFERRED. I THINK SO. SO I GUESS THE DECISIONS THERE FOR THE COUNCIL OF BACK TO CHRIS. YOU KNOW, HE INQUIRED ABOUT THIS INFORMATION. SO CHRIS AND CRAIG OPEN. SORRY. YEAH. WELL, I THINK I WANT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I EMPHASIZE WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM SAID HE'D BE WILLING TO MAKE A COMPROMISE IN THE INTEREST OF NOT DERAILING THE PROJECT COMPLETELY AND CONTINUING TO MOVE IT FORWARD. SO YEAH, I JUST WANT TO PUT A FACE TO THANK YOU TO COUNSEL OCCURRING TO PUT A FACE TO THE PROJECTS. WE WOULD BE THIS LADY. SETTING OFF COURSE AT THAT POINT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ACCELERATE A BETTER WORD. DO YOU THINK I COULD FIND CONSENSUS FOR? UH I'LL CALL IT THE AMY JEFF PROPOSAL ALL AMY OKAY. CAN YOU RE STAND YOUR STATE THAT THAT LET ME LET ME SEE IF I BELIEVE THAT I HAVE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINE IS WE WOULD DELAY. TILL THE END OF SUMMER AS PART OF OUR BUDGETING PROCESS. BEGIN THE BUILDING THE GMP PROCESS ON THE FIRST OF THE FISCAL YEAR. DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? NO. NOPE BEGINNING GMP PROCESS. YEAH IT'S THE FIRST RIGHT WITH IT. SPEAK INTO THE MIKE. YOU WANNA TALK? THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, 11 MORE TIME. IT'S HERE. GOING THROUGH THE GMP PROCESS. UM, JULY AUGUST. UPON THE ADVICE OF CHIEF. UM. TO GET TO CONSTRUCTION START OCTOBER 1ST IN A NEW FISCAL YEAR. DELAYS THE PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED AROUND JANUARY. 1ST 2025 NONE. BAD BLOOD. THERE ARE RISK IS THE CREEP OF THAT'S RIGHT AND. MATERIAL MATERIAL COST OVER NINE MONTH PERIOD. THAT'S RIGHT. AND

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22,000 HOWEVER, THEY DID SAY THAT AS LONG AS WE HAD A DATE THIS YEAR, I BELIEVE I DON'T WANT TO PUT MR CLIFFORD ON THE SPOT. THE BOND. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID TALK ABOUT BRIEFL Y WAS THIS PROJECT WAS SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED UNDER THE CURRENT BUILDING CODES, WHICH YOU'RE WE ADOPT NEW BUILDING CODES AT THE END OF THE SMART, BUT I BELIEVE SINCE IT'S ALREADY IN THE WORKS. AND THAT IT'S ALREADY IN THERE. I SPOKE WITH CHUCK THIS LAST WEEK THAT AS LONG AS IT'S ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE AND STILL BEING REVIEWED THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE, IF ANYTHING CHANGED AS FAR AS HAVING TO GO BACK THROUGH THE ENGINEERS REDESIGNED ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEN? YES, MA'AM, THE PRICE WILL GO UP.

OKAY I'M GONNA GIVE IT A GO THE OPPOSITE WAY OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID. SO IF WE DON'T MAKE ANY OF THOSE CHANGES, THE PRICE DOES NOT GO UP. CORRECT YES, SIR. KEEP IT UNDER THE EXISTING FIRE CODE, WHICH IS EXPLAINED TO ME AS LONG AS ITS IN THE PIPELINE. NOW IT WOULD REMAIN AND AS LONG AS WE KEPT IT ON TRACK AND ISSUED IT THIS YEAR, WE ARE W WOULD NOT GO UP ON THEIR COST.

OKAY TO THE FOLKS FROM BR W. IS THERE ANYTHING HE SAID THERE THAT SOUNDS LIKE WE COULDN'T DO THIS AND RECEIVED THE COST SAVINGS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. OKAY? OKAY? WITH THAT.

THAT CAVEAT I GOING TO SAY I FULLY SUPPORT THAT. AND THE OTHER THING TOO IS I STILL SAY WE HAVE THE SAVINGS MAYBE HUMAN FROM NOT DOING ALL OF THE PROJECT ON FIRST STREET. WE ONLY WE ONLY APPROVED ONE PORTION OF THAT, UM, CHANGE ORDER WITH MARS AND NICOLA. WE MAY FIND ENOUGH DOLLARS TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE GAS LINE WORK TWO YEAR AND HAVING THAT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT ESCALATE THAT AND GET IT DONE. TAKE IT OFF OF THIS PROJECT AND GO AHEAD AND GET IT DONE NOW. ALRIGHT I BELIEVE THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM HAS SAID HE CAN AGREE WITH THE COMPROMISE. I THINK, UH, I THINK WE DO HAVE ENOUGH CONSENSUS FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. CHIEF. IF YOU'VE GOT THAT YES, SIR. OKAY? AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO TRY TO GET THIS DOWN. WE LOOKED AT THINGS OUTSIDE THE BOX AND IT JUST UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S JUST WHERE THE MARKET IS. TODAY IT FLOORS ME AS WELL AS THE FIRE, CHIEF. TRUST ME. THIS IS THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS COME BACK BEFORE Y'ALL AND TELL YOU ALL THAT. WHAT WE BUDGETED WASN'T ENOUGH, BUT NOBODY COULD HAVE FORESEEN. FOR SEEING THIS HAPPENING, AND I AM BLESSED THAT IT DOES LOOK LIKE AND WE'LL KNOW FOR SURE AT THE END OF THE PROJECT, BUT LIKE I SAID, I AM BLESSED THAT BETWEEN BR WN POGUE THAT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE UNDER ON THE OTHER TWO. THAT WOULD ALSO HELP HOPEFULLY GO TOWARDS THAT. BUT WE WILL MAKE ANYTHING WORK THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS US. WHATEVER DIRECTION THAT IS, WE WILL MAKE IT WORK, SIR. OUR POINT IS TO BE ABLE TO SERVE OUR CITIZENS AS WELL AS WE CAN AND STILL BE RESPONSIBLE WITH THEIR TAX DOLLARS. SO I APPRECIATE ALL YOU'VE DONE TO GET US TO THIS POINT, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT THE OUTCOME THAT WE ALL WANTED, BUT WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD. WE STILL HAVE A PLAN. YES, SIR.

GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE NOT SKINNING DOWN THE BUILDING. I THINK THAT'S WHAT NONE OF US WANTED TO DO. AND I THINK YOU KNOW, FACED WITH THE CHOICE, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE A COMPROMISE OR MAKE THE BUILDING WHAT WE DON'T WANT. I WOULD RATHER JUST WAIT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO GO EVERYWHERE. NOT GOING TO BE SATISFIED, AND WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT THAT. WE WANNA AGREE THIS BUILDING IS LITERALLY 3/4 OF THE SIZE OF STATION TWO AND TO DO TO TAKE IT DOWN ANY SMALLER. COULD WE MAKE IT WORK? YEAH, WE COULD. BUT IS IT REALLY WHAT IS DESIRED? NO, MA'AM. THEY WOULDN'T BE. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU WITH THAT OR NEXT YES, THANKS. THANKS FOR BLASTING GAIN RUPERT FOR BETH BLASTING GAIN. THANK YOU, CHIEF . THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU.

[11. Consider and act upon a resolution adopting the Town of Prosper 2023 Legislative Agenda. (RB)]

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LISTED HERE ARE THE 10 PRIORITY AREAS OF THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. EACH SECTION IS COMPRISED OF POSITION STATEMENTS THAT INDICATE WHETHER THE TOWN WOULD SUPPORT OR OPPOSE LEGISLATION ON KEY ISSUES WITHIN THAT SECTION. THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IS TO BE USED AS A COMMUNICATION TOOL WITH THE TOWN'S LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION AND OTHERS TO CLEARLY EXPLAIN THE TOWN'S POSITION ON CRITICAL ISSUES. IT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO THE TOWN'S LEGISLATORS ON HOW THEY CAN BEST REPRESENT TOWN OF PROSPEROUS ID, INTS AND STAKEHOLDERS IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. IT ALSO HELPS TOWN STAFF AND THE COUNCIL TO FOCUS OUR ADVOCACY EFFORTS ON THE PRIORITIES. THAT COUNCIL HAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT. HERE YOU HAVE THE 2023 LEGISLATIVE TIMELINE. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION OFFICIALLY STARTED AS OF TODAY, HOWEVER, THE TOWN'S LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS TYPICALLY BEGINS SEVERAL MONTHS PRIOR TO THE START OF THE SESSION. PRECESSION IS COMPRISED OF DRAFTING OR REVISING THE TOWN'S LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND PRESENTING IT TO THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR REVIEW. JUST AS A REMINDER THAT COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE IS COMPRISED OF MAYOR BRISTOL AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ANDREWS. THE DRAFT LEGISLATIVE AGENDA WAS PRESENTED TO THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION ON OCTOBER 26 2022 AGAIN DURING A MEETING WITH THE TOWN'S LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT ON DECEMBER 21ST. NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE DOCUMENT THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET. ONCE THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IS ADOPTED OUR MID SESSION EFFORTS SHIFT MORE TOWARDS COMMUNICATION AND ADVOCACY. THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL HOLD MEETINGS WITH OUR LEGISLATORS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS TO SHARE OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA WITH THEM.

AND TO COMMUNICATE OUR POSITION ON KEY ISSUES WHILE IT'S STILL EARLY IN THE SESSION IN OUR FIRST MEETING IS WITH REPRESENTATIVE MATT SHAHEEN THIS FRIDAY WITH THE HELP OF OUR LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT. WE WILL MONITOR BILLS AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND PROVIDE WEEKLY UPDATES TO COUNSEL. WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE. WE WILL DETERMINE WHETHER ANY OF THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION WOULD WARRANT TRAVELING TO AUSTIN TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY OR COMMENTS OR TO WRITE LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION FOR SPECIFIC LEGISLATION. AS ALWAYS, TEAM L IS INVALUABLE RESOURCE FOR INFORMATION AND ADVOCACY. THEIR LEGISLATIVE WEBINAR SERIES AND THE WEEKLY LEGISLATIVE UPDATE ARE GREAT WAYS TO STAY INFORMED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. TYPICALLY A DELEGATION OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE MEMBERS FROM COLLIN AND DENTON COUNTY WILL TRAVEL TO AUSTIN DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO MEET WITH OUR LEGISLATORS, AND WE WILL PLAN TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT CALLING COUNTY DAYS WILL TAKE PLACE ON MARCH 28TH AND 29TH AND I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE DATES FOR DENTON COUNTY DAYS, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT AS WELL. THE 88TH REGULAR SESSION ENDS ON MAY 29TH. AND STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LEGISLATURE THROUGH THE END OF ANY SPECIAL SESSIONS THAT MAY BE CALLED FROM THERE. WE WILL REVIEW ANY TOWN RELATED BILLS THAT HAVE PASSED SHARE INFORMATION WITH STAFF ON THE IMPACTS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE AREAS AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY OPERATIONAL OR POLICY CHANGES AS A RESULT OF ANY LEGISLATION THAT WAS ADOPTED. WITH THAT. I AM RECOMMENDING THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE 2023 TON OF PROSPER LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

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AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VERY MUCH APPRECIATE. STAFFS WORK. THANK YOU ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THINKS APPROPRIATE. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE 2023 88 LEGISLATIVE TIMELINE AND AGENDA. FOR ALLEGEDLY OBJECTIVE. FOR THE TOWN OF PROSPER. SECOND WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY THE BY CRAIG UNDER SECOND BY JEFF HODGES ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION PASSES

[Possibly direct Town staff to schedule topic(s) for discussion at a future meeting.]

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

SECTION 501551.7. TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL ESTATE FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES AND ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED THERE TO SECTION 551.742 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PERSONAL MATTERS, INCLUDING TOWN MANAGER SEARCH AND SELECTION PROCESS AND ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED THERE, TOO. SECTION 551.712 DISCUSS POSSIBLE LITIGATION REGARDING THE U. S. HIGHWAY 3 80 SAVING DECISION INCLUDING ALTERNATE ROUTES, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDIES AND ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED THERE, TOO. TIME NOW IS 7 28 MORE THAN EXECUTIVE SESSION. ARE YOU TELLING ME? ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK

[Reconvene in Regular Session and take any action necessary as a result of the Closed Session.]

AN EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF PROSPER. AND A NEW TOWN MANAGER. GOT EMOTION BY, UH , MAYOR PRO TEM. JEFF HODGES. SECOND, MY COUNCILMAN BARCLAY ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ACTIONS TO TAKE? THERE HAPPENS TO BE ONE MORE. I MOVED TO AUTHORIZE THE INTERIM TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A TOWER SITE LEASE AGREEMENT. WITH AND THE MONTH 10. INCORPORATED FOR PROPERTY LOCATED IN LAKEWOOD PRESERVED PARK. SUBJECT TO THE TERMS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM TO HAVE A 2ND 2ND

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