Sep 13, 2022 Town Council

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OKAY. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE PROSPERED TOWN COUNCIL MEETING

[Call to Order/ Roll Call.]

ONE NATION UNDER GOD. INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALLOWED TO THE TEXAS FLAG. THE TEXAS FLAG. GLAD TO LEAVE. TEXAS ONE STATE ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU VERY

[Announcements of recent and upcoming events.]

GAMES WILL OPEN AT SEVEN P.M. WITH THE MOVIE BECAME AN BEGINNING AT 8 30. PM VISIT THE TOWN'S WEBSITE FOR MORE INFORMATION. THE MAYOR'S LUNCHEON FOR ACTIVE ADULTS. 55 OVER WILL TAKE PLACE ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 5TH FROM 11 TO 1 P.M. AT THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST FOR LATTER DAY SAINTS RESERVE YOUR SPOT TODAY BY CONTACTING BRANDT, HOLLAND AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. JOIN US FOR CELEBRATE PROSPER AND BBQ AND BLUES ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 8TH THE FRONTIER PARK FROM 5 TO 9 P.M. THIS FAN COMMUNITY CELEBRATION WILL FEATURE LIVE MUSIC AND BARBECUE. THE EVENT IS PRESENTED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WITH THE SUPPORT OF SPONSORS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS. VISIT THE TOWN'S WEBSITE FOR MORE INFORMATION. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CORN, AND I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE DEEJAYING THE NEXT EVENT FOR THE PROSPER REX. GREAT GREAT ANNOUNCEMENTS. ALL

[1. Presentation of a Proclamation to members of the Shawnee Trail Chapter of the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution declaring September 17-23, 2022, as Constitution Week. (MLS)]

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NOW, THEREFORE, I DAVID F. BRISTOL, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF PROSPER, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD 2022 AS CONSTITUTIONAL WEEK. IN THE TOWN OF PROSPER TEXAS, AND I URGE ALSO TO SINCE THE REFORM REAFFIRMED THE HIGH IDEALS THAT ARE INHERENT IN OUR GREAT NATION, REFLECT UPON THE IMPORTANT RIGHTS AND OBLIGATION OF ACTIVE CITIZENSHIP AND RECOGNIZE THE ENDURING STRENGTH OF OUR CONSTITUTION. THANK YOU, BEVERLY. I'M VERY, VERY GLAD YOU'RE DOING THIS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THAT SIDE AFTERWARDS. IF THAT'S OKAY, SIGN IT RIGHT NOW.

[2. Receive an update regarding the Pickleball Tournament. (TH)]

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IF IT'S SOME POINT. MAYBE THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE NOW, BUT WE HAD THE LAST COUPLE OF ROUNDS.

MORE SPECTATOR FRIENDLY, MAYBE IN THE STREET AND BROADWAY. DOWNTOWN SO IF YOU HAD IF YOU SET UP MAYBE TWO COURTS DOWN THERE AND YOU HAD THE SEMI FINALS AND THE FINALS THERE. AND OF COURSE, YOU FENCED IT OFF AND YOU WERE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WALK AROUND WHATEVER YOU WANTED TO.

THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE FUN JUST EXPANDED THE SCOPE OF THAT BY LIKE TRIPLE. UH YOU KNOW WHAT? I WAS TALKING ABOUT ONE DIFFICULTY WE WILL RUN INTO AS FAR AS I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT UP FROM A SPECTATOR STANDPOINT IS THERE ARE WINDSCREENS ALREADY SET UP AT THE TENNIS COURTS. SO IT'S NOT SIMILAR TO A SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT OR SOMETHING. WHERE YOU KNOW YOU CAN TAKE SEATING AND WATCH. SO THAT IS ONE ELEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST TO, AND POSSIBLY ONCE YOU GET TO THE LATER ROUNDS OF THE CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNDS, IF YOU WILL. YOU WON'T NEED ALL THE COURTS AT ONCE, BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET DOWN TO THE FINALS, YOU REALLY ONLY NEED A COUPLE QUARTS. SO POSSIBLY WE CAN MOVE THE TEMPORARY FENCING AND MOVE THE TEMPORARY NETS OUT OF THE WAY AND KIND OF ADD A SPECTATOR AREA. JUST AS LONG AS IT'S NOT DISRUPTING PLAY, OF COURSE. THE OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY TREVOR WHILE YOU'RE HERE, I JUST WANTED TO SAY ALSO THINK I KNOW WE COVERED IN OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS, BUT I KNOW YOU AND, UH, DAN WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THE PAUSE ON BROADWAY THING PULLED OFF ON SATURDAY. AND THAT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY THANK YOU. VERY MUCH ARE NEXT ITEM IS TO

[3. Receive an update from the IT Department. (LJ)]

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UM AND JORDAN'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF MAKING THAT WELL AND HAROLD AS WELL, GETTING THAT UP AND RUNNING. UPCOMING PROJECTS. OF COURSE, E R P. THAT'S A BIG ONE. IT'S GONNA REQUIRE PARTICIPATION FROM ALL THE RISK AND DIRECTLY AFFECT THOSE FOR DEPARTMENTS. THEIR FINANCE HR. YOU BEING COURTS? UM WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A CITY WORKS EXPANSION. CITY WORKS AS SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC WORKS USES FOR WORK, ORDERING AN ASSET MANAGEMENT AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE UM PARKS, IF NOT OTHER DEPARTMENTS USE IT. WE RECENTLY UPGRADED TO AN ENTERPRISE VERSION THAT GIVES US UNLIMITED USERS. SO REALLY? WE COULD. WE COULD USE IT IN ANY DEPARTMENT FACTOR WILL PROBABLY LOOK AT IT IN 19. JUST IN CASE SINCE WE'VE GOT THAT LICENSING BUILT IN, IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US OUT. FIRST MET PROJECT IS SOMETHING THAT WE PUT ON LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES HAVE CAUSED THAT TO DRAG ON. WE'VE GOT ALL OF OUR HARDWARE ORDERED, AND WE'VE GOT ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF IT IN AND WE'RE STILL WAITING. SO THAT IS A P O THAT WERE ROLLED. UM AND OF COURSE, THE NEW CENTRAL FIRE STATION COMING ONLINE. UH HUH. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE HAVE FACILITIES CONNECTED HERE IN THE TOWN BECAUSE YOU FOLKS MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THIS.

UM, BUT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TOWN HALL, PUBLIC WORKS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY AND NBC.

THOSE FOUR FACILITIES ARE CONNECTED OVER WHAT WE CALL DARK FIBER. IT'S 10 GIGABITS. UM EVERY OTHER BUILDING OUT THEIR CENTRAL FIRE STATION, CURRENT CENTRAL FIRE STATION FIRE STATION TO AND ALL OF OUR OTHER ANCILLARY. LOCATIONS ARE ALL CONNECTED OVER A WIRELESS CONNECTION THAT SHOOTS, UM UP TO THE WATER TOWER AS KIND OF THE HUB. UM WE HAVE THE PROVIDER NAMED SPEED OF LIGHT THAT MAINTAINS THAT FOR US, AND SO IT'S FREE, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT IT'S ONLY ABOUT 70 MEGABITS AT BEST AND OUT AT FIRE STATION, TOO. NOT SO MUCH. SO IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT WE'RE ADDING MORE AND MORE SYSTEMS, ESPECIALLY AT THE FIRE STATIONS, STATION ALERTING CAMERAS ARE OUR BIG ONE, UM, ALSO OUT OF THOSE STATIONS WERE NOW STREAMING OUR RAILROAD CAMERAS, 24 7 IN THE IN THE APPARATUS BAY AND THEN THE OFFICES, SO THE BANDWIDTH DEMANDS ARE A LOT HIGHER NOW OUT THERE, AND IT'S KIND OF A POINT OF CONTENTION. UM FOR US SOMETHING WE NEED TO RESOLVE SOON. UM SO I'M SURE YOU'LL BE SEEING MORE ON THAT. IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THEY CAN ASK A QUESTION ON THAT REAL QUICK. SO YEAH, I THINK I JUST SAW THIS NEXT SLIDE. SO YOU THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES GOT THE 10 GIG FIBER.

AND THEN THE FIRE STATION. YOU SAID IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOESN'T HAVE IT. CORRECT SO THE NEW FIRE STATION WILL. OKAY SO WE'RE JUST GONNA, UM WE HAVE A CONDUIT ALREADY IN PLACE THAT WE PUT THERE FOR FUTURE EXPANSION, SO WE'LL JUST TAG INTO THE POLICE STATION AND WE'LL BE GOOD TO GO.

BUT THIS RIGHT HERE IS A MAP OF THAT. THIS IS THE EXTENT OF ALL OF OUR DARK FIBER IN IN THE ENTIRE TOWN. SO WE BUILT THAT LEG OUT TO PUBLIC WORKS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS PART OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING PROJECT. AND LASTLY, I'D BE REMISS IF I DON'T MENTION CYBERSECURITY AND I WANTED TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL HERE. BUT MY BOSS WHO'S A CYBERSECURITY WALK NOW, UM, RECOMMENDED THAT I DON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T WANT

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OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO WORK ON. MOST OF THE THINGS ARE THINGS WERE ALREADY AWARE OF, BUT IT'S NICE TO SEE IT CODIFIED AND, UH CORROBORATED , I GUESS SO. UM. WELL SOME OF THAT IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET, SO IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE ADDRESSED AND THEN PROBABLY DOWN THE ROAD NEXT YEAR. WE MIGHT HAVE TO PUT SOME MORE STUFF IN AND OH, OOPS. THROUGH THOSE LINES REAL QUICK. SO ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. ONE THING I'D LIKE TO THROW OUT THERE IS, I THINK, AND WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION. IT WILL BE CRITICAL THAT WE WORK ON A WASTE OF FUND GETTING FIBER TOO. EACH FIRE STATION. EACH ONE OF THE PUBLIC WORKS ALL OF THE FACILITIES. I THINK IT'S CRITICAL. I DON'T UH, THE WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY FOR THAT IS NOT AS STRONG AS I'D LIKE TO SEE IT, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON IN THE COUNCIL NEED TO TAKE PART OF THAT COMMITTEE. THANKS AND I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT THE OTHER FIBER CONNECTION THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AT THE NEW CENTRAL FIRE STATION IS TWO FRISCO'S RADIO SYSTEM. THAT'S ANOTHER ONE WE'D LIKE TO MAKE AS PART OF THAT BIG, BIGGER FIBER PROJECT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A WIRELESS SHOT FROM PD OUT TO THE ELDORADO WATER TOWER. SO OUR ONLY RADIO CONNECTIVITY WITH THEIR SYSTEM IS OVER WIRELESS. OKAY SO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT WITH THAT THE NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEMS PLACED ON

[CONSENT AGENDA]

EXCEPTIONS YEAH, I'M SORRY. 15 AND THEN 17 THROUGH 20. THANK YOU. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND I'LL BE LOOKING FOR A 2ND 2ND FROM COUNCILMAN COTTON ALL IN FAVOR. A MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AH! OKAY? YOU PULLED 14. YOU WANT TO START WITH THAT? YES SO FOR ITEM

[14. Consider and act upon awarding CSP No. 2022-54-B to Ratliff Hardscape, Ltd. related to construction services for the Pecan Grove Park, Ph 2 (2145-PK), and authorizing the Interim Town Manager to execute a construction agreement for same. (DB)]

UH HUH. OKAY, AND THAT WASN'T REALLY A CONTRACTOR ISSUE. UM IT'S MORE OR LESS. UH JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, COORDINATING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE AND WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THAT CONTRACTOR TO RESOLVE IT AS WELL AS MEETING WITH THE HOMEOWNERS. UM AND THAT VICINITY THERE TO RESOLVE. THE YOU KNOW CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE SO WE'RE STILL IN. WE'RE INSTILLING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, BUT WE FEEL CONFIDENT, THOUGH GOING INTO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PROJECTS. DIFFERENT AREAS HAVE DIFFERENT ISSUES, BUT WE FEEL LIKE THEY YES, THEY'RE COMPETENT. TRYING NOT TO REPEAT THAT. ABSOLUTELY YES, SIR. YES, SIR. DESIGN FLAW.

ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S NO FLAW AND IT JUST IS THE OF THE SITUATION WAS JUST A, UM I THINK IT'S KIND OF YEAH, AND I DON'T HAVE AN ENGINEERING. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ENGINEERING ON A LOT OF THAT, AND IT'S AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT WITH A LOT TO LOT DRAINAGE, THOUGH, IS DEALING WITH I MEAN, BASICALLY, WATER WAS STILL GOING WHERE IT WAS GOING. IT WAS JUST IN CONVERSATIONS OF YOU KNOW, IS THERE YOU KNOW? UH, CONCENTRATION OF FLOW OR NOT AS WELL AS WE'VE HAD, REALLY, YOU KNOW, WET SPRINGS DURING THIS TIME, TOO. SO WE WERE, YOU KNOW, DURING CONSTRUCTION, WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THE CONTRACTOR TO COME UP

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THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT ITEM, YES, UM. I'VE MOVED TO AWARD CSP 2022-4 54 BEAT AROUND, UH, HARD SKATE LIMITED. UM. RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR PECAN GROVE PARK. PHASE TWO 21, 45 DASH P K AND AUTHORIZED INTERIM TIME MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT FOR SAME GET A SECOND, PLEASE SECOND BY COUNCILMAN RAY ALL IN FAVOR.

[16. Consider and act upon awarding CSP No. 2022-48-B to Mario Sinacola & Sons Excavating, Inc., related to construction services for the First Street (Coit to Custer) - 4 lanes project; and authorizing the Interim Town Manager to execute a construction agreement for same. (HW)]

FOR 1.149 MILLION AND JUST FOR THE RECORD HERE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE THAT MONEY. IT IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TOWN AND WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE PROSPER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT PARTICIPATING WITH US TO GET THAT ROAD BUILT. AND THEY ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT WALNUT GROVE WILL BE A HIGH SCHOOL SO IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE IMPRESS UPON SANTA COLA AND SONS EXCAVATING THAT WE NEED THE ROAD DONE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN IN 23. THAT'S RIGHT. THEY MOVED IT UP A YEAR, SO YES. SO THAT WAS ANNOUNCED AT THE MEETING TODAY. SO WITH THAT HUMAN WHAT DID YOU WANT TO ADD? WHERE SOMETHING HERE JUST TO JUST TO GO ON THE RECORD TO SAY. ADJUSTED BASED ON ONE SCHEDULE. WE'RE GOING TO ENDEAVOR TO WORK AS BEST WE CAN. RIGHT NOW. THE PLAN IS THERE WILL BE TWO RIBBONS OF CONCRETE.

WE PLAN TO HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THAT FIRST YEAR. BEYOND THAT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. THANKS FOR THAT. PATERSON, SO JUST REAL QUICKLY AND EXHIBITED. WE DID WE DID CONFIRM WITH SINA COLA. YOU KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH WE DID PUSH THIS THREE WEEKS THAT THEY ARE COMMITTED TO GETTING THOSE TWO LANES IN FROM COURT CUSTER BEFORE BY SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR, SO WE HAVE THAT. LEAST LEFT TWO LANES IN CONCRETE AND GET RID OF THE CURVE THAT WE CALLED DEAD MAN'S CURVE THERE. AND OFFICIALLY, ESPECIALLY SO FOR HIGH SCHOOL DRIVERS. THAT WILL BE NICE TO AT LEAST GET THAT IN. BUT THE OTHER TWO LANES, AND THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT WILL DRAG ON PAST THE OPENING AND HIGH SCHOOL AND. WORK WITH THAT WORK. CYNICAL BEST CAN GET AS MUCH DONE. THANK YOU. GOODBYE TAKE ON THAT WAS THE RESULT OF

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MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. OKAY? OUR NEXT ITEM IS CITIZENS COMMENTS. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

[21. Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon a request to rezone 7.9± acres from Office (O) to Planned Development-Office (PD-O), generally to modify the development standards to facilitate an office/retail development, including drive-through coffee shop as a permitted use, located on the northwest corner of Preston Road and Coleman Road. (Z21-0013). (DS)]

EXHIBIT C. UM WHICH IS OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WE DO HAVE SOME OF THE USE IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT UM, WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE NONALCOHOLIC EFFORTS, ESTABLISHMENT RETAIL STORES RESTAURANT VET CLINIC. FIGURES PREGNANT. WE CAN GO. THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE EXHIBIT C A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT UM REALLY, UM, THE EVEN SO STAFF WAS LOOKING AT THE DRIVE THRU COMPONENT THAT'S ALWAYS THE THAN A HOT TOPIC LATELY, AND, UM, ORIGINALLY THE APPLICANT WAS PLANNING TO DO TO DRIVE THRU LOCATIONS AT THE SITE. HOWEVER WORKING WITH STAFF WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THEM REDUCE THAT TO ONE DRIVE THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY, UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SORT OF WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OUR DRIVE THROUGH ORDINANCE AND UM, WE TRY NOT TO HAVE HIM RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS LOT TO HEAR. UM YOU SEE, SORT OF A

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UM AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO ENTER THAT ALL I'M IN AGREEMENT FOR ANY OF THE BUILDING MATERIALS. EXHIBIT G IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WHICH IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THAT DOES MEET THE TOWN STANDARDS. UM AS FAR AS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, IT DOES TALK ABOUT THE RETAIL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES OF THIS REQUEST HAS CONFORM TO THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM NOTIFICATIONS WERE PROVIDED TO OUR NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE ANY, UM, ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARING REPLY FORMS. UM STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ONLY REQUESTS.

UM ALEXANDER FOR ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER. ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. THANK YOU. DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVID? I DO ACTUALLY, DAVID TO YOU SAID, UM YOU STATED THAT CONCERNS ABOUT ADDITIONAL DRIVE THROUGHS, BUT THAT WAS DUE TO TRAFFIC AND STACKING RIGHT YOUR CONCERNS. WE DIDN'T WANT THEM BOTH TO. I MEAN, TYPICALLY, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS IS TO HAVE ACCUMULATED KIND OF FACE EACH OTHER AND THE IMPACTS OF THE TRAFFIC. UM HOWEVER, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CONCERN. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, AND THEN IN THE AGENDA ITEM DESCRIPTION IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS A COFFEE SHOP. AND THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF, UM I KNOW IT THROWS ME BECAUSE IT'S PEOPLE USUALLY DON'T LIST SPECIFIC USES. IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? SO WE I THINK WHAT ORIGINALLY WHEN WE WOULD DISCUSS THIS, UM WE WERE LOOKING AT NOT HAVING THIS AS A TYPICAL MCDONALD'S OR ANY OF THOSE FAST FOOD OR IS MORE OF A TO SERVE SORT OF A COFFEE PLACE OR TO SORT OF A T OR SMOOTHIE PLACE. UM SO IT'S NOT AS INTENSE. I KNOW STARBUCKS IS SORT OF A LOT OF TRAFFIC AS WELL. BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SORT OF NOT HAVE IT TO THE FLOOR POTENTIAL HAS A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. THAT WAS WHY THE REASON WHY, OKAY, BUT THEY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A COFFEE SHOP, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LISTED IN THE AGENDA COULD BE ANYTHING THAT FOLLOWS AND NON ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE I SAID SMOOTHIES, OR, UM, A T PLACE, BUT THAT'S A NON FOOD.

USE RIGHT? SO THEY CAN'T COME BACK AND PUT FOOD. SO WE DON'T WANT MCDONALD'S OR WENDY'S.

THAT'S CORRECT. IS THIS A MULTI TENANT BUILDINGS AND 10,000 ALMOST 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A COFFEE SHOP. I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IT IS AND I CAN REFER TO THE OUTCOME MAY BE INTERESTING FOR, YOU KNOW, GO BACK TO JEFF WITH HIS QUESTIONS. OKAY SO, YES , THAT'S UM, SAY THAT IT'S THE RESTAURANT, PART OF IT. SO YOU SAID THERE WAS LISTED AS A AS A PART OF IT COULD BE A RESTAURANT RIGHT OR SO IT'S NOT A FAST FOOD. YEAH THE TENT WAS NOT TO HAVE IT AS FAST FOOD SO WE CAN'T GET OF WATER BARRIER. CHICK FIL A ANY OF THOSE LAST THREE RESTAURANTS AND THAT'S ALREADY PERMITTED. IS IT NOT? NO IT'S THE BASE TONY'S OFFICE AND SO WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO AND LET ME GO TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. UM SO USE IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IT WOULD BE ONLY A LOT TOO. LOT TWO IS WHERE THE COFFEE PLACES. IT SAYS RESTAURANTS DRIVE. THERE IS A LOT TO BE TO BE USED ONLY FOR NON ALCOHOL BEVERAGE MOMENT. SO AND THAT'S KIND OF ANOTHER QUESTION IS WHAT? WHAT IS ANOTHER? WHAT IS AN ALCOHOLIC? BEVERAGE RESTAURANT OTHER THAN I MEAN, I GUESS I CAN THINK IT WAS A LIQUOR STORE AND A RESTAURANT.

SO WHAT OTHER POSSIBILITIES COULD THAT BE? ARE THERE ANY SO BESIDES LOOK AT THE COFFEE IS THAT THE INTENT IS JUST TO MAKE A SOIL RESTAURANT COULD SELL ALCOHOL. SO, UM I'M I GUESS I'M A LITTLE IS THIS IS THAT QUESTION? MAYBE FOR THE APPLICANT OR IS THAT. YEAH I MEAN, I'D LIKE TERRY'S OPINION ON IF IT'S RESTRICTIVE OR NOT. YEAH, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS FOR

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YEAH SO THE DRIVE THRU COULD BE A RESTAURANT. UM IT COULDN'T BE A MCDONALD'S ROOM. SO AGAIN THE RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THRU THAT'S OUR TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE TODAY. WE DON'T EVER SPECIFY ANYTHING THAT TALKS ABOUT BEVERAGE OR NON NON ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ONLY, UM, ORIGINALLY WHEN THIS CAME IN ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO, THERE'S DISCUSSIONS TO SORT OF NOT HAVE IT AS INTENSE AS A FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS HAVE BEEN TENT WITH TO SORT OF MAKE IT ONLY FOR THOSE T PLACES OR FOR THOSE COFFEE PLACES. IF THERE IS LANGUAGE IN IT THAT WE NEED TO MAYBE MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARER. WE CAN. UM BUT THAT WAS THE INTENT TO SORT OF FOLLOW, ALLOWING THE RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THRU AND ONLY UNLOCKED, TOO, BUT ONLY TO BE USED FOR THOSE TEAS OR COFFEE OR SMOOTHIES. THINGS LIKE THAT. NO NO RESTAURANT TO RESTAURANT. YOU DON'T CALL THAT RESTAURANT, DO YOU? WELL TECHNICALLY, BY TODAY'S STANDARDS, YES, WE DO.

WE CALL UM SMOOTHIE SHOPS, RESTAURANTS SHOP IS THE RESTAURANT. UM WHAT'S THE OTHER ONES? THAT THE SEVEN BREW? UM ALL THOSE ARE CONSIDERED RESTAURANT. AND SO THAT'S WHY I MEAN, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THE CONFUSING UM IT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE IT SAYS RESTAURANTS DRIVE THROUGH, BUT THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO SORT OF MAKE IT ONLY FOR NON ALCOHOL BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT. I THINK THAT WAS UM, SORRY. THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD, UM AND THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS IS TO ADD SORT OF THAT THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE TO MAKE IT. ONLY FOR THE FOR THE FOR THAT BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENTS , THE NON ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT AND I THINK I'M NOT TRYING TO OVER SPEAK YOU SORRY, BUT NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ALCOHOL PIECE, BUT THAT'S BEING PRESENTED AS A COFFEE SHOP. WHICH I GET. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT TYPE OF USE, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR INTENT IS. AND I THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO KEEP THAT USE DOWN. BUT THERE'S INTENT. I KEEP HEARING INTENT, BUT LIKE IS THIS IS THERE ANYTHING? IS THERE ANY TEETH TO THAT? AND I'M NOT. I'M NOT SUGGESTING IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT. I GUESS. ONE DAY WE WANT TO LIMITED TO, UH, COFFEE SMOOTHIES. THAT TYPE OF I THINK WE CAN REVISE THIS LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT A LOT MORE SPECIFIC THAN USING THE WORD RESTAURANT BECAUSE MCDONALD'S SELLS COFFEE AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF AND I THINK THE CONCERN I HEAR EXPRESSES WE DON'T WANT TO WIND UP HAVING A MCDONALD'S OR SIMILAR RESTAURANT OR SOME SORT OF SIMILAR SIMILAR ESTABLISHMENT THAT HE SAYS, WELL, I'M A NON ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT BUT ALSO SELL HAMBURGERS AND CHEESEBURGERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I MEAN, IF NECESSARY WHEN, AFTER HEARING FROM THE APPLE, AND WE CAN WE CAN MODIFY THAT LANGUAGE. THESE ARE JUST DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ATTACHED TO THE PD ORDINANCE THERE WOULD BE ATTACHED TO THE PD ORDINANCE THAT BECOMES REALLY PRETTY RESTRICTIVE ON THE HELMET ON THE LANDLORD, DIDN'T IT TO TELL HIM THAT IT CAN ONLY BE SMOOTHIES, TEAS AND COFFEE WHEN THEY YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ONE OF THOSE

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THAT WOULD BE THE KIND OF ESSENCE OF CONDITIONAL ZONING WHEN I KNOW I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT. I'M JUST SAYING YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU'RE PICKING ONE USE OUT OF A LIST OF POTENTIAL USES THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY? NO MATTER WHAT I SAID, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS MEETING WE HAD WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DRIVE THROUGHS. I THINK THE JOB OF THIS COUNCIL IS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE USE OF THE EPISODE IDEAS NOT DEFINED WHAT GOES IN THERE? RIGHT SO IF IT'S LAID OUT BY ORDINANCES AND MEETS OUR ORDINANCES AND IT HAS A DRIVE THRU BY RIGHTS. THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY THIS ONE, BUT NOT THIS ONE. BUT BUT BUT THEY DON'T RIGHT NOW. RIGHT SO THIS IS ALL OFFICE OWNING.

THERE'S NO DRIVE THROUGH BY, RIGHT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M TRYING TO REMOVE THAT PART FROM THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, WE'RE TRYING TO DIVINE OUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ENFORCE AND ALSO, MAYBE SHOULDN'T BE. WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING WHETHER OR NOT A DRIVE THRU IS OKAY IN THIS LOCATION. BUT I THINK TERRY'S TELL US WE CAN ENFORCE IT IF WE WANT TO. WE CAN PUT THAT IN HERE AND ENFORCE THEM ONLY TO HAVE COFFEE, TEA AND SMOOTHIES. AND THAT'S IT AS THEIR PRIMARY, YOU KNOW, SALES OR SOMETHING, BUT SO IS THAT 50% 60% YOU HAVE TO DEFINE THAT YOU'D HAVE TO DEFINE HOW THAT WORKS, AND THEY'D HAVE.

THEY'D HAVE TO WORK WITH THEIR TENANTS THAT PROSPECTS AND FIGURE OUT HOW THAT WORKS, BUT BUT TO ME, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. IF THERE'S A GOOD BURGER JOINT YOU KNOW THAT IT'S A PART OF A STRIP CENTER. AND IT'S PART OF THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY. I DON'T OBJECT TO HAVING PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO DRIVE BY AND PICK UP A BURGER, AS OPPOSED TO COFFEE. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER I AGREE, CHRIS. IT'S EITHER A DRIVE THROUGH OR DIDN'T THEN MARCUS SAYING IT'S A DRIVE THROUGH IT DIDN'T I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF TRYING US TRYING TO DETERMINE THAT YOU KNOW, OR AGREEING WITH THE LANDLORD WITH THE LANDLORD WHO'S NOW TRYING TO GET THE ZONING THINKING THAT THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE ZONING IS TO RESTRICT THIS WAY, AND MAYBE THE COUNCIL WILL AGREE. THAT'S MY GUESS. WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE BECAUSE STAFF HAS SAID WE DON'T WANT FOOD SERVICE FAST FOOD DRIVE THROUGH. BUT BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THE FOOD SERVICE THAT BOTHERS ME. IT'S EITHER DRIVE THROUGH OR NOT TO DRIVE THROUGH. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S STARBUCKS OR MCDONALD'S. I LIKE BOTH OF THEM PERSONALLY, BUT YOU KNOW, SO IT GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER. YOU KNOW, WE COULD PUT THAT RESTRICTION ON THERE. BUT SHOULD WE AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S OUR CHARTER. IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE ALIGNED TO ORDINANCES. BUT THEY'VE GOT THE RIGHTS MATERIALS THAT THERE IS A DEVELOPMENTAL AGREEMENT ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION . THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CHARTER. WHAT GOES IN THERE WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE FREE MARKET AND BY THE PEOPLE. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO. END UP WITH AN EMPTY SPACE BECAUSE THE GUY CAN'T POLICE IT FOR THAT USE, AND HE DID IT. HE GOT THAT USE MERELY BECAUSE HE FELT THAT'S WHAT HE NEEDED TO DO TO GET COUNCIL VOTE. SO I THINK YOU EITHER WANT TO SUPPORT A DRIVE THROUGH OR NOT. THAT'S WHERE I AM. OKAY, SO LET ME GO BACK TO JEFF. ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR QUESTION? YES. THANK YOU, GREG. YEAH I MEAN, I WOULD. I'M KIND OF WITH CHARLES ON THAT. I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE DOING OURSELVES A DISSERVICE REALLY, IN THE LONG RUN. TO LIMIT THE USE AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY ABOUT IT THAN THAT. BUT I THINK WE WANT TO HAVE A TENANT IN THERE. IF WE APPROVE THAT THAT IS GOING TO PRODUCE TAX REVENUE FOR THE TOWN. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT TO BE AREN'T JUST WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED BULLET BULLET POINT. TO UM, ON THE HOTELS WITH SCP S SO THEY'RE ASKING RIGHT NOW FOR OFFICE TO BE TWO STORIES ALOUD. NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR 3 TO 4 STORIES, POTENTIALLY UM. IS THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO ALSO GET A HOTEL, SO IT'S GOING TO BE OFFICE. WITH FOUR STORIES. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS WITH BRANDING ON AN HONOR HOTEL? WHEN WE HAVE THESE EXHIBITS, YOU KNOW, SHOWING WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. AND THEN A HOTEL COMES IN AND SAYS NO, WE WANT TO BRAND IT WITH OUR COLORS AND OUR SO JUST CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO THAT WITH YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY THE APPLICANTS GONNA TALK ABOUT BUT ORIGINALLY, UM, I GUESS THAT THIS WAS SUBMITTED A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND WE THEY DID HAVE A HOTEL ORIGINALLY PLANNED AND I THINK IT WENT IT WAS UP TO SIX STORIES. UM AND SO WE FELT THAT THAT WAS A LITTLE TOO MUCH ON THAT PROPERTY, SO WE WERE ABLE TO KNOCK THAT DOWN TO FOUR. UM AS FAR AS FOR, UM THE, UM. DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND WE WILL NEED TO LOOK AT THAT, IF THERE IS CHANGES FROM THE HOTEL THAT ARE COMPLETELY GOING AWAY THAT CAN EITHER BE REVISED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR EVEN AN AMENDMENT TO THE PD, JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE HOTELS, I MEAN THE WHOLE CONCEPTUAL PLANS TO CHANGE THE PARKING ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE CHANGING SO UM, BUT AGAIN,

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AND THEN ON THE RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THRU ON ANY LOT OTHER THAN A LOT TO THE ONLY OTHER LOT WOULD BE LOT WHICH I CAN'T SEE THIS, BUT I'M NOT GLASSES. UM WHAT WAS IT WOULD BE THIS ONE TO THE SOUTH WON. THE ONLY IS THAT THE ONLY OTHER LOT THAT YES IS THAT THE ONLY OTHER LOT THAT I DRIVE THROUGH COULD GO ON BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO BACK HERE BECAUSE THOSE ARE OFFICE USES.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO YEAH. SO, BASICALLY, UM, YOU GO BACK TO THAT. SO YES, RESTAURANTS A DRIVE THROUGH ON ANY OTHER. OTHER THAN WHAT? TO I MEAN, ACTUALLY, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WITH THAT STATEMENT YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO. THEM ON ANY OF THE OTHER LOTS AS WELL, BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S SAYING ON ANY OTHER LOT THAN A LOT, TOO. IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF WINE, AND YOU ALSO HAVE THOSE LOTS IN THE BACK AS WELL. SO I WAS IT OPENS UP TO ALLOWING S UPS NOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD LOOK AT HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IF AMENDMENTS NEEDED OR IF THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT, UM, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY'RE WHERE THEY'RE GOING. IF THEY'RE DOING LIKE AN END LINE SOMEWHERE, MAYBE HERE OR MAYBE ON THIS CORNER, AND THAT'S GONNA THEY'RE GONNA DO A DRIVE THROUGH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, TECHNICALLY BASED ON THE LANGUAGE THERE. IT IS ALLOWING IT ON OTHER LOTS. THROUGH AN SUV. SO WHETHER OR NOT YOU APPROVED THAT LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS IT WITH AN S U P OR NOT, THEY CAN COME BACK LATER AND ASK FOR THE CHANGE ANYWAY, SO IT'S IN DIFFERENT WEATHER, WHETHER IT SAYS IT'S AN S U P OR WHETHER IT'S A MODIFICATION OF THE AGREEMENT LATER. BOTH REQUIRE VOTE OF THE COUNCIL. RIGHT WELL, I GUESS MY ASKING ABOUT THE LIES THAT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS AND MAYBE I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT IS THAT THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS TO THE WEST. OUR OFFICE ONLY SO IF IT'S OFFICE ONLY CAN'T HAVE A RESTAURANT IN IT, RIGHT. IT'S NOT A USE IN OUR OFFICE. SONY IT DOESN'T SAY THIS. IT'S OFFICER. OKAY SO THAT'S MY MISUNDERSTANDING. I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS GOING AND I THOUGHT THOSE TWO BUILDINGS WERE GOING TO HAVE OFFICE ZONING AND THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS WERE GOING TO HAVE RESTAURANT RETAIL ZONING, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE OKAY, SO THAT THAT WAS JUST WHERE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT, AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE HAVE THAT WHERE WE HAVE, LIKE ATTRACT IN THE BACK THAT SAYS IT'S ONLY FOR OFFICE TRACKED. AND SO I THINK, AND THAT'S THAT. WE'VE HAD THAT BEFORE. BUT YEAH, FOR THIS SAKE, IT'S SORT OF EVERYTHING'S ARE OPEN TO WHATEVER THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ON NUMBER TWO. OKAY SO IN THAT CASE, THEN I'M GONNA GO BACK TO WHAT I ALMOST ALWAYS SAY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S POTENTIAL RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA, AND THAT IS EXCLUDING THE NON FAMILY FRIENDLY USES. I KNOW THEY'RE THE SAME GROUPS DEVELOPMENT, UH TO THE NORTH HAS A LIQUOR STORE, OBVIOUSLY SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT. THAT IN PLACE AT THAT LOCATION, BUT THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IS THAT WE KIND OF ELIMINATE, YOU KNOW THE FUTURE NON FAMILY FRIENDLY WHERE RETAIL USES WHERE THERE WOULD BE RETAIL IN THE FUTURE. WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGES OUT OF THIS SHIPMENT? OKAY, SO THAT OKAY? AND THAT AND THE DEVELOPERS HERE AS WELL. SO, UM OKAY? WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH, CRAIG. CHRIS CHARLES AND OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DAVID NO. I THINK I THINK I'M I'M EVERYONE ELSE HAS ASKED ENOUGH QUESTIONS TO ANSWER BUT YEAH, I THINK I THINK THAT'S I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S THE OFFICE USE. UH, BASICALLY, THEY'RE JUST WANTING TO ADD A BIG VARIABLE INTO THE AND THE DEFINITION OF OFFICE. IN ADDITION TO A COUPLE OF THE RETAIL FRONTS BY RIGHT CORRECT SO MAYBE I'LL MAYBE I'LL FOLLOW UP YOUR QUESTION. WITH WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY TO THE WAY I READ THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IS IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT SITE PLAN, RIGHT? YEAH, RIGHT THERE. ALL OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LOT TWO. MAYBE A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH. JUST HOW IT STATED YES , THAT'S ONLY WITH TALIBAN S U P THOUGH REQUIRED BY BY BY A VOTE OF THE COUNCIL. WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT. THEY CAN'T DO IT UNILATERALLY. CORRECT YEAH, SO ANYTHING OTHER THAN A LOT, TOO REQUIRES S U P, WHICH WAS APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL. JOE SO THEN CARRYING THAT THROUGH THEM YOU WORSENING. IT DOESN'T I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE CONCEPT THERE SO OKAY. ALL RIGHT . SO THEN LET'S ADDRESS IT.

LET'S ADDRESS A DIFFERENT POINT ON THIS. WE GAVE SOME PRETTY LARGE EXEMPTIONS TO THE BUILDING

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APPRECIATE IT. AH AT THIS TIME, THEN WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO PRESENT OR ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

HELLO EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MACDONELL VICTORY. REAL ESTATE GROUP 29 11, TURTLE CREEK BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS. YOU'RE ON TIME. I WOULD JUST LIKE. TO COME BACK TO THE COFFEE VIEWS TOPIC AND THE REASON WHY THAT THAT'S BEING BROUGHT UP IN SUCH SPECIFICITY IS. AND WE KNOW THAT MOST COUNCILS ACROSS THE METROPLEX IN THE COUNTRY WHEREVER WE'RE BUILDING. LIKE AND NO END USERS, AND WE TRY TO PROVIDE THOSE AS SOON AS WE CAN. SOMETIMES. THE END USER DOESN'T WANT TO SIGN ANOTHER. OH I UNTIL THEY KNOW THAT THEIR ENTITLEMENTS ARE SECURED. CITIES DO NOT WANT AND JURISDICTIONS DON'T WANT TO. SIGN OFF ON ENTITLEMENTS UNTIL THE END OF THE END USERS. SO CHICKEN AND THE EGG KIND OF GAME AND WE JUST STARTED MIGHT BE MORE BENEFICIAL AND HELP FROM TRANSPARENT TO LET YOU KNOW A LITTLE VANILLA Y THAT WAS RECENTLY EXECUTED AND IT WAS FOR A COFFEE USER. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE SPECIFIED. RIGHT DIRECTLY. THAT WAS A COPY USER AND ASCENSION. COFFEE, WHO'S LOCAL? LOCAL BRAND, AND THEY HAVE A ONE IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT IN ONE LAKEWOOD AS WELL. AND ALSO IN REGARDS TO THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THE OFFICE USES. THERE WAS NEVER ANY INTENTION TO YOU KNOW, TRYING TO SNEAK ANYTHING IN OR LEAVE IT OPEN ENDED BY ANY MEANS, AND WE ARE OKAY WITH WE'RE RESTRICTING USE OF THREE AND FOUR TO OFFICE AND ALSO HOTEL ORIGINALLY CAME UP. MARKET WAS DIFFERENT AT THE ANYTHING CONCEPTION. POINT. HERE SO A FEW YEARS AGO. YEAH. FULL SERVICE HOTEL USE WAS BEING CONSIDERED IN THIS LOCATION. SINCE THEN, MARKETS CHANGED AND UM, HOTEL USES NO LONGER BEING CONSIDERED. SO IF IT MAKES THE COUNCIL FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, WHICH IT DID TO PLAYING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO REMOVE HOTEL USE. AS BEING OUTRIGHT PERMITTED OUTRIGHT TO UNLESS YOU P OKAY WITH THAT, BUT WE ARE ALSO OKAY WITH REMOVING HOTEL COMPLETELY IF THAT COMFORTS TO COUNSEL AND I'M THE COFFEE SHOP IS GOING THAT IT ISN'T THEN THAT WOULD BE A MULTI TENANT BUILDING. THEN THAT'S YOUR CORRECT. YES, YES. WOULD YOU PLEASE? DID YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO LIVE WITH LANGUAGE THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE ON THAT ON THE DRIVE THROUGH THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A PART OF A MULTI TENANT BUILDING. 9000 PLUS SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, PROVIDED THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY THAT DIFFERENTIATES A DRIVE THRU, THEN YOUR SMALL DRIVE THROUGHS. AND SO IF IT'S A PART OF IT, PARTICULARLY WHERE YOU'VE GOT IT LAID OUT BEHIND THAT BUILDING. I GOT NO PROBLEM ANY OF THE DRIVE THRU USES, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT RESTRICTED TO DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DEFINE THAT MULTI TENANT BUILDING OF AT LEAST 9000 SQUARE FEET. IS THAT WHAT YOUR INTENT IS SOMETHING ALONG THOSE SIZE? YES, THAT THAT IF THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE FINE. AND THAT'S CERTAINLY HOW WE SEE IT. UM OKAY . AND THEN THEN ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT SECTION UNDER B. YOU KNOW TO ME IT JUST YOU HEAR THE CONSTERNATION TO ME WOULD BE BETTER JUST TO WITHDRAW THAT, UH , THE DRIVE THROUGH AND JUST LEAVE IT RESTAURANT. AND THEN YOU COME BACK TO COUNCIL. IF YOU WANT TO DRIVE THROUGH SOME POINT, YOU GOT TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL ANYBODY, WHETHER IT'S S U P OR NOT. LET'S JUST GET RID OF IT BEING ALLOWED INTO AN S U P RIGHT NOW, ON ANY OTHER SIDE, OTHER THAN THAT, TOO, RIGHT AND THAT I SUPPOSE THAT'S A SIMILAR STANCE THAT WE'RE TAKING AS WELL AS WE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH THE PRELIMINARY, JUST SPECIFIC SITE PLAN TO CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR THAT WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER DRIVE THROUGH ON THAT SITE AT THIS POINT, UNDERSTOOD, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BREAK THIS DEAL. IT COMES DOWN TO THAT. OF COURSE, WE WILL AGREE. AND THEN MY TAKE ON IT WITH THE OTHER THING WOULD BE IS, UH I DON'T REALLY I'D TELL YOU THAT. I DON'T WANT TO INCLUDE A LIMITED SERVICE HOTEL WITH AN S U P JUST YOU GOTTA COME BACK. BRING IT IF WE CAN

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WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING OUT OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, SO OKAY.

BUT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IF WE AGREE TO THIS, THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO AH! DEVELOP A WHERE IS IT? YOU. I'M SORRY I LOST. BUT IF YOU, UM. ITS 60 FT. YEAH SO OHIO YEAH.

60% MASONRY FROM 100 TO 6% MASONRY. THERE IT IS. YEAH AND THEN ON ONE AND TWO AND THEN I'M LIKE THREE AND FOUR. YOU GO DOWN TO 40. MASONRY I BELIEVE WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT SURROUNDING SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO THE NORTH AND TRYING TO SAY STAY SOMEWHAT.

SOMEWHAT CLOSE AND CONSISTENT WITH THAT THE NORTH. YOU MEAN SELENA GROUP? OKAY OKAY. WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE PROSPER, OKAY? UM, I JUST AND YOU KNOW. IN MY OPINION, AND I'M JUST I'M JUST ONE. UM BUT YOU ARE. YOU KNOW YOU'RE TAKING AWAY THE 25 FT FOR THE ONE STORY IN 40 FT FOR THE TWO STORY ON THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD TO NOTHING. UM YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO RAISE THE BUILDING? UM BUT AT THE SAME TIME AND YOU WANT TO REDUCE THE MASONRY AND IT'S JUST YOU'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF. AND THAT AND THAT THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN THE HEIGHT, THE INCREASE IN THE HEIGHT WE WANTED TO ASK FOR A REDUCTION IN THE MATERIALS. SO IF WE WERE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES. THE PERCENTAGE BUILDING MATERIAL WOULDN'T BE AS BIG AS A PLAYER IS WHEN IT BE STRETCHED FOUR STORIES AND THEN YOU'RE TALKING 100% MASONRY, MUCH, MUCH DIFFERENT. BOTTOM LINE THERE. NOW I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UM, YOU'RE ASKING US TO GIVE YOU THESE THE SLAYING SEASON YET YOU'RE NOT. YOU WON'T GO AHEAD WITH OUR BUILDINGS STANDARDS, SO IT JUST UM THE WHOLE THING TO ME HAS A LOT OF QUESTION MARKS. AND IT'S JUST TO ME IT'S ONE OF THE MORE CONFUSING IS THERE A PERCENTAGE THAT WOULD IS THERE A PERCENTAGE THAT WOULD BE MORE COMFORTING TO IT TO THE COUNCIL OVERALL ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NORTH WOULD NEED TO DEFEND 16. BUT AGAIN THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT LOOK WHEN YOU'RE DOING A BIGGER BUILDING TO MAYBE THE ANSWER HERE IS A BUILDING ABOVE TWO STORIES CAN HAVE A REDUCED MASONRY PERSON PERCENTAGE BUILDING. TWO STORIES AND BELOW HAS TO HAVE MATE 60% OR SOMETHING. YEAH FAULT. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER TO AT THAT INTERSECTION. ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF COLEMAN. IT IS A VERY HIGH BUILD UP AND YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A LOT ON TOP OF THAT. IF YOU PUT A SHORT BUILDING IT WILL LOOK HARD. SO YOU ALMOST NEEDED THREE OR FOUR STORIES BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUCH A HIGH BUILD UP ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HOME. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE DID ASK FOR AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION CHANGE. THE SIGNAL DECREASES QUITE A BIT RIGHT THERE. AND ONCE YOU DO HIT THREE STORIES AND ABOVE BUILDING CODES CHANGED. AND YOUR COST WILL CHANGE. REGARDLESS OF NOT REGARDLESS, BUT ON TOP OF YOUR EXTERIOR. BESIDE THEM. SO, UH, THE BASIC QUESTION. BIGGER PICTURE. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE SAME GROUP THAT IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. AND I THINK THE LAST TIME THIS GROUP WAS IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL WE SAID, PLEASE DON'T BRING US BACK PIECEMEAL. I DON'T BRING US BACK A FULL CONCEPT PLAN. THAT'S RIGHT. SO IS THIS NOW A FULL CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE WHOLE PROPERTY. THIS IS THE FULL CONCEPT. WELL THIS IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ENTITY COMPLETELY SEPARATE OWNERSHIP COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. PARTIAL OWNERSHIP, BOTH OF THEM SAY

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IT'S NOT A WAY TO SNEAK AROUND. IT'S NOT A WAY TO SNEAK AROUND ANYTHING AND IT'S NOT AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE USE TO COPY USE WAS OFFERED UP BECAUSE AS SOON AS AN L A. Y IS EXECUTED, WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE AWARE OF THE COUNCIL DOES NOT. WHAT ANYTHING PIECEMEAL, SO WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE THE USER THE USERS THE END USERS AS QUICK AS WE HAVE THEM, AND THE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND HOTELS CHANGED. WE LOOKED AT OFFICE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING ONE OF THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS ON SPEC. SO BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC AIR I WANT SUMMARIZE WHAT I THINK I'VE HEARD YOU SAY SO. LET ME JUST WHERE WITH ME FOR A SECOND.

YOU'RE OKAY TO RESTRICT THE OTHER LOTS TO OFFICE ONLY NO HOTEL USE. GREAT OKAY TO MULTI TENANT IN A LOT. TWO. PRETTY AND THAT I BELIEVE THAT, UH, PRO TIM HODGES. ALSO, THEN WE CAME TO A CONCLUSION OF THE OVER TWO STORIES. YOU WOULD WE WOULD ALLOW THE LOWER PERCENTAGE OF MASONRY AND IF IT'S AT TWO STORIES, WE GO WITH THE 60% CORRECT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES WE'RE FINE WITH THAT WOMAN IN THE NON FAMILY FROM THE USES, INCLUDING, INCLUDING TO BE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR MINING. GO AHEAD AND ONLY HAD ONE THING THERE. UH, MAYOR IS THAT FIRST OF ALL, I DO THINK THEY THEY'VE DONE A BETTER JOB OF BRINGING US MORE OF THE SITE, A BIGGER SITE THAN JUST COMING IN WITH A STANDALONE DRIVE THROUGH.

THEY'VE GOT A NINE OR 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS, AND THAT'S A PART OF AND THEY GOT TO OFFICE BUILDINGS, BUT I WOULD I WOULD SAY THAT WITHIN THOSE OFFICE USES THAT THAT SHOULD INCLUDE THE OFFICE USERS. RESTAURANT USES BECAUSE I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE RESTAURANT IN THAT USE BACK THERE AND WITH HOTEL FULL SERVICE. AS A PART OF B. USES WITH PERMITTED WITH APPROVAL. SPECIAL USE PERMIT. ACTUALLY THE RESTAURANTS ARE PERMITTED BY REID ANYWAY, SO YOU JUST TAKE THAT OUT, RIGHT? SO IT'S JUST HOTEL. FULL SERVICE IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN COME BACK FOR, UH, ON SPECIAL USE PERMIT ANYTHING ELSE? THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH COMPLETE ZONING CHANGE. ALRIGHT, SO I THINK WE'VE LAID OUT OF IT. FOUNDATION. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HOLD ON, ONE MORE SPECIFIC TO THE APPLICANT, BUT, UM, I THINK, UH, PART OF THE CONFUSION AROUND THE COFFEE PIECES. YOU KNOW IF YOU LOOK OUT THERE AND HOW YOU'RE LEASING COMPANY IS MARKETING THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY UM, THEY HAVE SOME. USE L I GUESS THEY RELY LOGOS FOR COMPANIES AND AGAIN. I'M NOT TRYING TO MARKET OR PICK APART THE COMPANY IN PARTICULAR, BUT IT'S NOT A COFFEE USE, AND IT'S TWO RESTAURANTS. IT'S A PIZZA PLACE AND A PICKLE MONS DAILY. I THINK IT'S WHAT IT SAYS. I'M LOOKING AT IT ON THE WEBSITE, BUT I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CONFUSION HERE. AND I JUST WANT CLARITY. UM, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE AGAIN TOO. MARCUS POINT? I COMPLETELY AGREE. I DON'T I DON'T WANT NO, I DON'T WANT TO OVER. FOCUS ON THE TENANTS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALSO NOT SELLING THE WHOLE CONCEPT BASED ON THAT SAME THING, RIGHT? AND THAT WAS NEVER THE INTENTION. IT WAS JUST TO OFFER UP EXECUTED ELO. I END USERS AS SOON AS WE HAD THEM BASED ON PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL LITERALLY CORRECT, THAT'S GREAT. THAT IS CORRECT, BUT HONESTLY, IN TODAY'S MARKET TO GET TO GET TO THAT POINT. IT'S ALL RIGHT RIGHT NOW. COULD WE ADD THEM TO DELETE? THE LANGUAGE ON THE USE IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT THE LANGUAGE TO BE USED FOR NON ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENTS AS WELL. INSTEAD. INCREASE INCLUDE THE AT THE LANGUAGE THAT WITHIN A MULTI TENANT 18,000 SQUARE FOOT, MULTI TENANT OR LARGER. FACILITIES.

HOWEVER YOU WANNA SAY WHEN WE GET TOO EMOTIONAL, OKAY? I JUST I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WHILE HE'S UP HERE THAT WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA REACH. HE IS AGREEABLE TO THOSE SORTS OF THINGS INSTEAD OF THAT'S MAKING A MOTION DID THAT WORK? I'M AGREEABLE. WE ARE AGREEABLE.

OKAY, GOOD. OKAY. NO MORE QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT. OKAY AT THIS TIME, SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC, THIS AGENDA ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE OR ONLINE? WE'D LIKE TO SPEAK. LEAD DO WE HAVE ANYONE? NO, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE. THEN AT THIS TIME , I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNSEL AND TURNED TO DISCUSSION. MORE DISCUSSION.

CHARGE YOU ARGUE. I'M LEAVING. I'M READY TO MAKE EMOTIONS PREPARED TO MAKE THE NOTION I'LL JUST I'LL JUST GET MY POINTS OUT REALLY QUICK. JUST GET MY POINTS OUT REAL QUICK AND Y'ALL, CAN I

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YOU MAY HAVE SOMETHING. ON USE IS PERMITTED BY REID. RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THRU AS PART OF A MULTI BUILDING OF AT LEAST 9000 SQUARE FEET. ON LOT TO LOT TO A LOT, TOO. YEAH A RESTAURANT WOULD BE 1000 SQUARE FEET OR GREATER. 5000 PER FEET. 9004 GREATER OKAY? THEN IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY ON RESTAURANT WOULD BE PERMITTED ON LOTS, 13 OR FOUR THAT I WAS A DRIVE THROUGH. THEY HAVE TO COME BACK WITH IT FOR AN S. U P NO, NO, NO. OKAY. BUT WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE NOT INCLUDING DRIVE THROUGH HIS AN SUV ANYWAY, IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE IT. THEY'RE PERMITTED TO HAVE RESTAURANTS ON 13 AND FOUR IF THEY WANT TO DO AN S U P. THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL. IF THEY WANT TO DO A DRAFTER, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK. NOT AN ISSUE. P AT THAT POINT, WOULD IT BE OK SP, BUT 61 HALF DOZEN, RIGHT? I GOT YOU. AND YOU ALSO, THE EXCLUDED LIKE TO LIKE TO CAN HAVE RESTAURANTS RIGHT THERE. WE ALREADY HAVE THE RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH ON A LOT, TOO. OKAY, I CAN DO THAT. THEN UNDER USE OF PERMITTED APPROVAL OF AN S U P. THE ONLY USE WE'RE RETAINING, AND THERE WAS HOTEL, A FULL SERVICE HOTEL. AND THEN, UH, WE WERE WE RESTRICT LOTS THREE AND FOUR TO OFFICE USES ONLY. THE BOUNDARIES OF THE APPLICANT CURRICULA. WHY WOULD YOU NOT INCLUDE THE AH! THE OTHER USES ALLOWED UNDER USES PERMITTED BY RIGHT UM, IN THE ON THAT OFFICE AREA. YOU DON'T WANT THE RESTAURANTS OR RETAIL OR STUDIO BACK TO THE RESTAURANTS ARE ALREADY OKAY AS PERMITTED BY, RIGHT ALRIGHT DOT NO RETAIL OTHER THAN RESTAURANTS BACK THERE. NO UH, MAKE A MOTION . VERY CLINIC. NO I'M TRYING SO THAT WE GET CONSIDERED. I WANT TO GET SOME DISCUSSION. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO WASTE OF MOTION. IF I HAVE TO. OKAY THAT'S FINE. THEN, UM ALL OF THE REAL HOTEL USES THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE WOULD BE ELIMINATED AS IT WAS AN S U P REQUIREMENT. BUILDINGS OVER TWO STORIES ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE 60% MASONRY.

BUILDINGS TWO STORIES ARE LAST REVIEW 40% MALE AROUND, OKAY THE OTHER WAY AROUND. OKAY DURING OVER TWO STORIES BE 40% MASONRY BUILDING TWO STORIES OR LESS BE 60% MASONRY THAT BE INCLUDED IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UM. AND LAST, WE WOULD HAVE ALSO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ABOUT FAMILY FRIENDLY BUSINESSES. OUR STANDARD REQUIREMENTS THERE. I THINK THAT INCLUDES ALL THE POINTS I WANT TO MAKE. SURE IS THERE IS ONLY GONNA ASK JEFF. IF THERE'S A DEAL, CHRIS THEY BOTH ARE MORE FAMILIAR. THAT DEVELOPMENT MEANS ARE THE THINGS SIGNIFICANT. OTHER THINGS LEFT OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT THEY DISCUSSED HIM AND LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AND THEN WE KEEP GROUNDING VARIANCES THEN WHY WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SO I MEAN, YES. MAYBE WE ARE. WE ARE WE GRANTING A VARIANCE TO A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD HERE. WELL, WE'RE GOING FROM 100% MASONRY DOWN TO 60% AND 40, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. AND SO IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE IN HERE THAT WE NEED TO ADD BACK? I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WILL THE EYE. YOU DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION, RIGHT? 100% MASONRY. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE SO, UM I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. YOU KNOW YOU'D LIKE TO SEE 100% MASONRY ON THESE? I WOULD I'D I'D LIKE I

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AH! WHAT PIECES ARE WE GIVING AWAY? WELL ALL THAT PART OF THE ZONING PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS HERE. THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO GET TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT MAKE SENSE. LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST I'M JUST ONE VOTE AND I, YOU KNOW I KNOW WE'VE GRANTED VARIANCES IN THE PAST, BUT WE'VE USUALLY GAINED SOMETHING, AND I JUST DON'T SEE THAT WE'RE GETTING ANYTHING IN THIS POINT, AND I JUST I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT AWAY. BUT I AM JUST ONE VOTE. I DON'T WANT TO RUIN YOUR MOTION. WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MOVE. PURSUANT OF WHAT OUR ATTORNEY LANGUAGE HE CAME UP WITH. AL MOVE APPROVAL. WITH THOSE CAVEATS AND THOSE CONDITIONS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, AS OUR ATTEMPT, ERNIE PROPOSED. I THINK THANK THOSE ARE LAID OUT. ALRIGHT SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY CHARLES COTTON, THE SECOND BY COUNCILMAN RAY. DISCUSSION. I'LL MAKE A POINT THAT. WHILE I AGREE WITH BOTH COUNCILMAN CURREN AND COUNCILMAN HODGES. I THINK THE OVERALL STANDARD ON THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT I'M GOING TO LUMP IT ALL TOGETHER. AS LONG AS I BELIEVE I HEARD MR SOTO SAID THAT IT MATCHES THE STANDARD THAT WE'VE SET TO THE NORTH OF IT. JUST YEAH. IT'S. YOU KNOW, THE NORTHERN PROPERTY HAD A LITTLE BIT HIGHER MAINSTREAM PRODUCTS, BUT AS FAR AS FOR THE STYLE UM, IT'S SORT OF KIND OF COMPLIMENTS. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD TOWARDS THE NORTH. MAYBE NOT THE EXACT PERCENTAGE OF MASONRY BUT THE STYLE IS PERCENTAGE. I WOULDN'T I WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD FIVE DIFFERENT PARCELS OUT THERE. AND I THINK THE LATEST ONE THAT WE DID WAS MAYBE AROUND 60 TO 70% THINK I WANT TO TAKE AWAY IS IT GENERALLY MATCHES THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. UH, FURTHER STYLE. YES. STYLE AND MASONRY OVERALL. MASONRY IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WHAT THE NORTHERN PROPERTY HAS HAVE DONE MORE BECAUSE THEY BUILT TO A HIGHER AMOUNT OR IS IT LOWER BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WERE LOWER THAN IT WERE HIGHER THAN 60. IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. I MEAN, SINCE IT'S TWO STORIES, AND IT SEEMS LIKE NOW THERE'S YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT MAYBE HITTING THAT. HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF MASONRY MADE MORE. THE RESTRICTIONS DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS MORE THAN 60. THE DEVELOPMENT MEMBERS WERE STILL THE 100. UM 100% 100% MAINSTREAM, HOWEVER, WHEN THEY DID THE ANY SPECIFIC EAST PERMIT OR ANY OF THE ZONING THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH AND EITHER VERY ATED OR HAD SOME SORT OF VARIATION FROM THAT 100% ANYTHING THAT WAS THERE BEFORE THE HOUSE. BILL. UM FOLLOWED ARE 100% MITRI. CINEMA. MY OPINION IS WEAK, YOU KNOW? WE NEED TO STICK WITH 100% THAT OR IF THAT'S WHAT MATCHES WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE. I THINK WE NEED TO STICK WITH IT. WHAT? HAVEN'T HEARD THAT YET. I HEARD A GENERALIZATION. FIRST I THOUGHT I HEARD GENERALLY MATCHED NOW MAYBE IT DOESN'T TOTALLY IN SOME CASES. WELL AGAIN, THE SOUTH. SO THIS STYLE OF THE PHARAOH OF THE BUILDING, SORT OF DO GENERALLY CONFORMED TO THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH. I MEAN, WE HAD, UM, WE'RE DUNKIN DONUTS WHERE WE HAD ANOTHER DRIVE THROUGH. IT SORT OF HAD THAT SAME STYLE AS FAR AS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING MORE

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RIGHT SO YEAH, LET'S LOOK, WOULD YOU MIND? AH SO THE 60 40 ISN'T GONNA GO. SO WHAT CAN YOU DO? IS IT? BECAUSE OF THE REDUCTION ABOVE TWO STORIES. WOULD YOU BE MORE COMFORTABLE STICKING TO 100? FOR ME PERCENT. UNDER TWO STORIES. 100% UNDER TWO STORIES. AND THEN WHAT, ABOVE TWO? IS THERE A PERCENTAGE THAT ISN'T 100 THAT IS MORE AMENABLE. 100% I CAN MAKE IT. YES, SIR. SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT. CONSIDERING WHAT'S BEEN ASKED IS 40% MESSAGE. 33% MESSING.

SUPERCENTER HERE. ON NORTHERN SCIENCE 60% HISTORY. 40% THAT'S NOT WHAT DAVID SAID. I DON'T. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST, SOTO SAID. PERCENT. NO THAT'S STARTED BUILDING STANDARD THE STANDARD, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S OVER THERE. SO IT CURRENT STATE IN THE NORTHERN SIDE 60% MASONRY IN 40% OTHER MATERIALS CORRECT FOR THE FOR THE NORTHERN SHOCK TO THE NORTH, CORRECT. I MEAN, YEAH, I WOULD. I WOULD. I CAN. I NEED TO JUST PULL THAT UP. BUT AGAIN, IT WASN'T 100% IT WAS GENERALLY THAT WHOLE AREA IF I CAN RECALL IT WAS AROUND 60% RIGHT. AND SO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED NOW HAS 40% MASONRY AND 60% OTHER SO I WOULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTHERN PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE 60% MASONRY AND 40% OTHER WHICH IS THE SAME, GENERALLY SPEAKING AS WHAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE IN THE NORTHERN SIDE. YOU SAY 40% ON ON WHAT? I'M SORRY. ON OTHER MATERIALS, WHETHER IT BE OKAY. OKAY SORRY. MATERIALS AND THAT'S THAT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING. AND THEN IT'S 100% MASONRY. THAT'S WHAT I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY REASON HOW YOU'RE GETTING JEFF SUPPORT, OKAY? IF IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING BELOW ITS 100% MASONRY. IS THAT WORK, JEFF? BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MANY NUMBER FOUR STORY BUILDINGS WE HAVE IN PROSPER RIGHT NOW. I KNOW, I KNOW. AND I'M JUST. IF THIS IS NOT SAYING IT WILL BE, BUT IF IT'S IF THIS IS PACKAGED TOGETHER LIKE THIS AND SOLD YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. I I'M STILL I STILL THINK THAT OUR STANDARDS ARE STANDARDS. AND. DO YOU HAVE EMOTIONS YET? UM. FOR CLARIFICATION. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER FOUR STORY BUILDINGS THAT ARE 100% MISERY? YEAH, IT IS, ISN'T IT? YES. WHAT STANDING LOOKING DOWN? AND SO LET ME JUST THROW THIS OUT THERE. I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THERE'S MORE CLARITY IF ANYBODY AGREES WITH THAT ANYBODY COULD DO THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THE TABLE TABLE THIS THE NEXT MEETING UNTIL WE CAN GET MORE CLARITY ON JUST KIND OF A NUMBER OF THINGS PREFER THAT I'D ALSO LIKE TO FIND OUT. WHAT THE OBSESSION WITH ARE THE NEED TO HAVE 100% MASONRY. IS THAT LOOK BETTER THAN 90% MASONRY, OR DOES IT LAST LONGER OR DOES IT? WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE REASON WHY MASONRY VERSUS OTHER TYPES OF PRODUCTS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME INCREDIBLE OTHER PRODUCTS THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN HAVE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS SAY. I DIDN'T KNOW WE

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OKAY SORRY I DID. I DIDN'T SEE IF YOU'RE LUCY TOGETHER, GOT FIVE VOTES FOR ALL OPPOSED. YOU GOTTA VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER VOTED FOR WORK TABLE TABLE TABLE ONE. OKAY THANK YOU VOTED FOR ALL RIGHT? THANK YOU. THE MOTION TO TABLE PASSES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT THE NEXT ITEM IS

[22. Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon a request to rezone 5.6± acres from PD-21 and Single Family-15 (SF-15) to a new Planned Development-Office/Retail (PD-O/R) for office and retail uses, located on the west side of Preston Road north of Broadway Street. (Z22-0014). (DS)]

21. I'M SORRY. UM THAT HAD, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF OFFICE USE AND RETAIL USE. UM AND THIS TRACK THAT I HAVE ON MY MOUTH IS SINGLE FAMILY. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE ENTIRE TRACKED, UM TO EXPAND AND DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. WITH FOUR, UM BUILDINGS APPROXIMATELY AROUND 21, OR 22,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AND MEDICAL USES. AND AROUND 7000 ARE 7680 SQUARE FOOT OF RETAIL ON THE EITHER EASTERNMOST SO THESE THREE HERE AS YOU CAN SEE OUR OFFICE MEDICAL BUILDINGS AND THEN THIS BUILDING IS RETAIL BUILDING. UM, AS PROPOSED FROM THE APPLICANT.

UM AS AS PREVIOUSLY UM YOU KNOW OUR EXHIBIT THE SHOWS ADEQUATE PARKING. AND UM, WE DO HAVE A, UM, RENDERINGS OF THE ARCHITECTURAL. UM BUILDINGS. THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO ENTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REGARDING THE BUILDING MATERIALS. UM AND WE DO HAVE UH, A LANDSCAPE PLAN AS WELL. IT DOESN'T MEET THE TOWN STANDARDS. I KIND OF WENT QUICKLY, BUT REALLY, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE LIFTED . UM AND AGAIN, REALLY? IT WAS JUST MORE OF THE USES, UM, SHALL BE RESTRICTED ONLY IN THAT EASTERN NORTH BUILDING THAT WAS SHOWN ON EXHIBIT D AND THEN A SCREENING TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THE EXISTING LIVING SCREEN IN LIEU OF A SCREENING WALL ON THE NORTHERN AUDREY. UM THE NOTIFICATIONS WERE PROVIDED TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY, AND THE STAFF DID RECEIVE ONE REPLY FORM THAT WAS ATTACHED TO, UM THE REQUEST AS WELL. AND REALLY, THE BIGGEST THING WAS JUST MORE OF NO MORE RETAIL, NO MORE OFFICE AND I BELIEVE THEY WANTED A PART OF SOMEHOW, UM OR PART PROPOSED, UM, TOWN STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING REQUESTS AND, UM, THE APPLICANT BEFORE OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. DAVID. ONE FOR YOU, ONE FOR THE APPLICANT ON THAT WHERE IT SAYS WET UNDERGROUND DETENTION AREA. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THAT MEANS? SO I MIGHT NEED A ASK HEALING AND SEE IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THAT. UM YEAH, AND WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT AS WELL IF THEY WANT TO. YEAH DAVID BOND ASPIRES ENGINEERING FIBER. ONE GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE SUITE. 200 RICHARDSON. REALLY WE'RE WE HAVEN'T FINISHED. THE DETENTION DESIGNS ARE INTENT IS THAT THAT POND WILL EITHER BE UNDERGROUND OR WET, WHICH ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, SO WE'RE JUST CLARIFY ON THE PROJECT TO THE SOUTH. THERE IS A REQUEST FOR DRY DETENTION AND THAT IS NOT BEING REQUESTED HERE . SO THAT'S WHY IT SAYS WET SLASH UNDERGROUND. IT WILL END UP BEING ONE OR THE OTHER, BOTH OF WHICH COMPLY WITH THE BASE DESIGNING ORDINANCE. OKAY? AND THEN. AND THEN ON THE RETAIL BUILDING. UM. AGAIN. YOU'RE BACKING UP TO STONE CREEK, SO I'LL HAVE THE SAME QUESTION FOR YOU THAT I JUST HAD FOR THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT IS, ARE YOU WILLING TO LIMIT USES THAT ARE NOT FAMILY FRIENDLY USES. IN

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OKAY I HAVE A MOTION BY CHARLES COTTON WORK. I'LL SECOND IT. MM YEAH. SECOND BY CRAIG ANDERSON ALL IN FAVOR. AND THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. AH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT

[23. Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon a request to rezone 11.3+- acres of Commercial (C) to Planned Development-Commercial (PD-C) to allow uses such as luxury office/warehouse, automobile storage, and recreational vehicle parking, located on the west side of Coleman Street, south of Prosper Trail. (Z22-0008). (DS)]

ANY OF THOSE STORAGE IS IN THERE? UM I KNOW THEY'RE NOT NOT CALLED MAN CAVES, BUT THEY DO HAVE THEM SORT OF PRESENTED AND SORT OF AND OTHER CITIES AS WELL. UM AND SO THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY THE P D WAS REQUESTED TO SORT OF CREATE THAT NEW KIND OF UNIQUE. USE THAT THE TOWN OF PROSPER UM, DIDN'T HAVE AND UM OKAY. AND THIS IS WHAT WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS, BUT REALLY, UM, THIS IS EXHIBIT THE THAT THAT SHOWS SORT OF THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING. IT DOES. IT IS

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WELL, THE PARKING SPACES OVER HERE TO THE WEST ME. I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO WALK. SO THAT KIND OF THAT'S PROBABLY FINE FOR YOUR LITTLE RV STORAGE SECTION RIGHT THERE, BUT JUST TRYING TO WALK ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT, BUT THOSE OTHER LITTLE JOHN DOUBTS MIGHT BE ADEQUATE. SO I JUST DIDN'T NOTICE THAT, BUT THANK YOU. SO, DAVID, IS THAT THAT FRONT BUILDING? HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS THAT FRONT BUILDING? UM 14. 14 6 25 25 SO I ASSUME SO. THE

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WE'LL HAVE THE SIMILAR SASEIDX THAT WILL HAVE A LONG COLEMAN. SO WE'RE HOPING MAYBE SOMEDAY IT COULD ACTUALLY GET A STOREFRONT RETAIL AS WELL, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT YOURSELF. BUT WE HAD TO DO THE TWO ENTRANCES FOR FIRE , GIVEN THE PAY FOR AIRLINE SUPPLANTED, AND IT'S THERE FOREVER. SOMEDAY ONE DAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A 48 FT WIDE STREET WITH THE MEDIAN ENTRANCE ON THE COLEMAN THAT'S PART OF THE FUTURE HIGHWAY BREAKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS, MIKE. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. CHARLES, YOU GOTTA HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY? AH LIFE TO ONE. YEAH. DEPENDS ON CONSTRUCTION COSTS. YAHOO ALRIGHT ABOUT YOURSELF A. BASICALLY HE'S TALKING ABOUT YOUR INSIDE MICHELLE STOREFRONT AND LONG COLEMAN IS ALL 100% MASONRY. I BELIEVE IT DOES. SO ARE THERE QUESTIONS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S UH, AT THIS TIME SINCE THIS AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE TO SPEAK? LEADING KNOW ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE. SEEING NONE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IT IS NOW COUNCIL DISCUSSION. OR I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVED TO APPROVE A REQUEST TO REZONE 11 PLUS 3.3, PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF COMMERCIAL SEA TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL PDC TO ALLOW YOU SUCH AS LUXURY OFFICE WAREHOUSE, BUILD STORAGE AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKING, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF COLEMAN STREET SOUTH OF PROSPER TRAIL, A MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN BARTLEY ALL IN FAVOR. COUNCIL PROGRESS. ONE GOOD QUESTION. WE'LL HAVE THE DEVELOPING AGREEMENT ON BUILDING MATERIALS DID WE WANT TO HAVE SINCE THERE IS A REAL RETAIL COMPONENT? THE AMY AMENDMENT. WHATEVER YOU CALL IT ABOUT FAMILY FRIENDLY BUSINESSES ALONG COLEMAN I JUST THAT'S A STANDARD RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE SCHOOL. DO IT ANYWAY. YEAH WITHIN THE YES, THAT WOULD BE OKAY. SO IT'S SUBJECT TO THE MOTION. ARE WE GOING TO AMEND THE MOTION TO BRING BACK THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? GREAT SO WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE AGAIN SO I COULD SEE THAT

[24. Conduct a public hearing and consider and act upon a request for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Private Street Development, on 16.4± acres, located on the south side of First Street, east of Coit Road (S22-0008). (DS)]

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PROSPER. I THINK DAVID GOOD JOB SUMMARIZING. THIS IS BASICALLY JUST TO HAVE A BASICALLY PRIVATE GATED NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A KIND OF A SMALLER TRACK FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. I THINK IT'S 26 27 LOTS AT THE MAXIMUM. WE'LL HAVE HERE, SO IT'S KIND OF A SMALL LITTLE ENCLAVE THAT THE CLIENT IS ASKED TO BE GATED IN PRIVATE. SO THIS IS AGAIN STEP ONE IN THAT PROCESS. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE. QUESTIONS. FOR THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. SINCE THIS IS A THIS AGENDA ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING ALBUM THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE ROOM TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE OF CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. COUNCIL DISCUSSION. GOOD USER MOTION. AMY. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PRIVATE STREET DEVELOPMENT ON 16.4 PLUS MINUS ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FIRST STREET EAST OF QUITE ROAD. I'LL SECOND JEFF ALL IN FAVOR. PASSES 6 TO 0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 25. WE GET A

[25. Consider and act upon an ordinance adopting the fiscal year (FY) 2022-2023 Annual Budget and Capital Improvement Program for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2022 and ending September 30, 2023. (RBS)]

THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS SLIDE IS JUST EMPHASIZE TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE DIDN'T JUST COME TONIGHT AND DECIDED TO DO A BUDGET. UH THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF A LONG PROCESS THAT STARTED IN THE SUMMER. IT ACTUALLY STARTED BEFORE JULY WHEN WE BEGAN CONSIDERING OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES AND CHANGES NEEDED TO THOSE FINANCIAL POLICIES THAT WOULD IMPACT THE BUDGET. WE THEN WENT THROUGH VARIOUS PRESENTATIONS. WE'VE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING. WE ALSO HAD A TOWN HALL. UM. PUBLIC PRESENTATION OF THE BUDGET LAST WEEK. AH NOW. TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE THE FINAL CHANGES AND ADOPT THE BUDGET. SO WHAT'S NEW THIS YEAR? WELL QUITE A BIT, ACTUALLY, WE AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE REVISED OUR UH , FINANCIAL POLICIES. WE NOW

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THIS IS VERY MANAGEABLE. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE MANAGED. IT IS GETTING HIGH. AND WE STILL HAVE VERY SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL NEEDS REMAINING. AND BECAUSE OF THAT. THE COUNCIL, UH, RESPONDED BY DEDICATING A PORTION OF OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION LEVY TO CAPITAL NEEDS. AND THIS IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. ADVOCAAT SOME SLIDES AND JUST A MINUTE. WE NOW HAVE 57% OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE SUPPORTING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS EITHER THROUGH PAY AS YOU GO OR THROUGH DEBT SERVICE. SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE LEVY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO MOVE DIRT. TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO WHAT ARE THESE CAPITAL NEEDS? UH HEALING TOLD ME I COULD JUST GO AND MOVE THROUGH THESE SLIDES VERY QUICKLY. SO I'M GOING TO, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF LOT OF CAPITAL NEEDS. UM THESE ARE THE PLANS FOR THAT INITIAL CAPITAL DEDICATED LEVY OF JUST UNDER $7.8 MILLION. YOU CAN SEE THE PLAN AND WE ARE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO CANCEL IN NOVEMBER TO FINALIZE THOSE PLANS. THIS LEVY IS GOING TO BE USED EVERY YEAR. AND IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE HIT SOME RIGHT AWAY ISSUES OR WHATEVER WE CAN'T USE IT TO ACTUALLY DO PROJECTS. THEN WE CAN USE IT TO RETIRE DEBT THAT'S BECOMING COLORABLE. AND THAT WILL GIVE US MORE DEBT CAPACITY AND LATER YEARS SO WE CAN USE THIS MONEY EVERY YEAR. HERE ARE SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL PROJECTS WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT YOU CAN SEE $18 MILLION FOR RAYMOND COMMUNITY PARK. UH 6.8 MILLION PER LEGACY PERIOD OF FISH TRAP. 7.5 MILLION COIT. UH, FIRST TO FRONTIER CRAIG STREET. THREE MILLION AND THEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FACILITY PLAN. THAT'S 5.4 MILLION, SO YOU CAN SEE THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CAPITAL DEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK BEYOND 2028, THE LIST JUST CONTINUES DOWN. SO UH, VERY LARGE NUMBER OF CAPITAL NEEDS YOU CAN SEE ABOUT 60 MILLION ON THIS LIST. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER NEEDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF, UM PARKS OPEN SPACE PUBLIC WORKS IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR FACILITIES, ETCETERA. SO HERE'S A MAP. THAT LISTS OUT COLOR CODED BY YEAR. YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING PLANNED. AND SO AS WE. PRESENTED THESE NEEDS TO THE COUNCIL. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED THE COUNCIL WAS YOU HAVE TWO GOALS. AND IF YOU KEEP THE TAX RATE THE SAME THEN WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOUR GOAL OF INVESTING IN PROSPEROUS FUTURE THE CAPITAL. AND THE GOAL OF PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL SERVICES. IF YOU SPEND MORE ON ONE, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND LESS ON THE OTHER. SO WHICH DO YOU WANT TO EMPHASIZE, AND THE ANSWER WAS VERY, VERY CLEAR. IT WAS AT THIS STAGE IN THE TOWN'S LIFE WE NEED EMPHASIZE CAPITAL. AND THAT'S AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE TEETER TOTTER. THE CAPITAL WAS GETTING THE HEAVIEST PART OF THE FUNDING. AND SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, IN TERMS OF OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE. AND YOU CAN SEE THESE

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THAT WAS OVER TWO THIRDS OF THE PROPERTY TAX RATE WAS DEDICATED TO THE GENERAL PARK. THAT NEXT YEAR, WE MOVED THREE CENTS FROM THE GENERAL FUND OVER TO DEBT SERVICE. SO DEBT SERVICE INCREASE THE GRAY AND THEN WE CUT THE RATE BY A PENNY. SO WE WERE DEUCE TO THE M AND A RATE BY ABOUT FOUR CENTS, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THERE. WE WENT DOWN TO 31.6. SO WE'RE NOW DOWN TO 62% STILL, A MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IS GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND. THIS YEAR WITH THE CHANGES WE MADE. THE GENERAL FUND WENT ON A DIET. EXCEPT. HAD AN EXTREME MAKEOVER AND IS NOW DOWN TO 20.6 CENTS. AND WE HAVE 11.2 CENTS OR 22% OF OUR RATE. IS THAT CAPITAL DEDICATED LEVY, WHICH WILL BE USED FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OR REDUCING OUTSTANDING DEBT. AND THEN 18 CENTS. FOR UH, DEBT SERVICE SO YOU CAN SEE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. 57. OF OUR TOTAL . LEVY IS NOW GOING TO THE CAPITAL NEEDS OF THE TOWN. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT OVERALL TAX BURDEN, BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT WHEN YOU PAY YOUR MONTHLY ESCROW TO THE MORTGAGE COMPANY OR YOU PAY YOUR TAXES ANNUALLY. UH YOU DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH GOES TO EACH OF THE TAXING JURISDICTIONS. YOU JUST KNOW HOW MUCH YOU OWE AND THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN FOR COLLIN COUNTY, AND YOU CAN SEE THE TOWN IS ABOUT 23% OF THE TOTAL PROPERTY TAX BURDEN. UH FOR PROSPER HOMEOWNERS IN COLLIN COUNTY. WITH THE SCHOOL BEING ABOUT 66 CENTS, AND THEN THE REST.

DIVIDED BETWEEN COLLIN COLLEGE IN COLLIN COUNTY. SO DENTON IS REALLY ABOUT THE SAME. UH 23% FOR THE TOWN'S TAXPAYERS AND THEN 66 FOR THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEN 11. FOR THE COUNTY. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER? IN 2022 , THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER PAID 2500 AND $72. AH THIS YEAR THEY'RE GOING TO PAY. UH 2748. NOW IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE BUT FOR THE FACT THAT THE COUNCIL DID INCREASE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FROM 10. TO 12.5. SO ALTHOUGH WE HAVE, UM PUT A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON CAPITOL WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE SERVICE NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE ADDING 21 PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS 15 FIRE. SIX POLICE AND THEN ALL OTHER, UH, POSITIONS WITHIN THE CITY ARE WITHIN THE TOWN NINE. AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR AS WE ARE NOW OPENING THE NEW CENTRAL FIRE STATION FIRE STATION THREE. AND THEN THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CAPITAL. NEEDS, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. SO WITH THAT, UM. WE'RE READY FOR EMOTION. WELL ACTUALLY , WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. THAT'S A I APPRECIATE YOUR ENTHUSIASM. SO YEAH, IT'S BEEN A LONG BUDGET BELIEVE WE MAY HAVE ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BOB. YEAH I JUST CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE THREE GRAPHS WITH THE DISTRIBUTION BY YEAR. AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD GOOD SETUP. AND I THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS VIEW, BECAUSE, UM THIS IS REAL CLEAR HERE. I THINK TO EXPLAIN, UM TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO KNOW THAT WE ARE TAXABLE VALUES ARE GROWING. SO OBVIOUSLY WE'VE FOR ENVER ADDING NEW PROPERTY SO THE OVERALL REVENUE IS GOING UP ONE. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY IT. SO THE GENERAL FROM WENT ON A SLIMMING DOWN, BUT IT'S AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BOB. OUR OUR ASK ONE INFANT. IF YOU DON'T MIND, THE BUT WHAT I MEAN, I DO THINK THERE IS A LITTLE BIT HERE THAT YOU NEED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE IN YEAR 2022 WE TOOK FIVE WELL OVER FIVE MILLION. AND SPEND IT ON CAPITAL PROJECTS OUT OF THAT. SO I WOULD COMPARE THAT TO THE 7.8 MILLION. THAT'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT OFFICIAL DROP THAT PERCENTAGE FROM 62 TO 40 THIS YEAR. REALLY IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, SO I THINK YOU PROBABLY DROPPED FROM ABOUT 52 40 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UH AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, I'M YOU KNOW? I'M SUPPORTIVE THIS BECAUSE AS YOU'VE SEEN WITH THE BIDS WE'VE BEEN GETTING AH, THAT THERE WERE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH OUR BONDS ARE BOND PROGRAM ISN'T GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT. TO COVER ALL THE PROJECTS AS IF INFLATION CONTINUES. AND THESE EXCESS FUNDS THIS 11.2 CENTS CAN SUPPLEMENT THAT. WE FOUND IT WITH THE FIRE STATION WORTH FOUR MILLION UNDER PRELIMINARILY WITH THE THREE MILLION OVER THREE MILLION OVER WITH THE FIRST STREET AND SO THAT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN, AND WE'LL NEED THAT 11.2 CENTS TO CONTINUE TO FIND THE PROJECTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE PLANNED. MUCH LESS THE OVERRUNS ON THOSE PROJECTS, MUCH LESS ACCELERATING PROJECTS SO THAT'S THE REASON I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BUDGET. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR BOB. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION JUST TO COMMENT. I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT THAT WE WOULD BE COMING BACK TO THAT LIST IN NOVEMBER. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO PUBLICLY PRIORITIZE SPENDING SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEY ON. AND IT'S NOT JUST A FUND THAT'S CALLED CAPITAL DEDICATED. AND IT JUST SITS THERE FOR YEARS. YOU KNOW, WITHOUT US HAVING A PLAN, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE SETTING ASIDE THESE DOLLARS AND WE ARE INTENDING TO ALLOCATE THOSE IN PRIORITIZE. YOU KNOW THE PROJECT. SO I THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT FOR NOVEMBER. THE OTHER CLARIFICATION THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS THE ABILITY BECAUSE WE'VE CARVED THEM OUT TO PAY THAT DOWN AS WELL, WHICH WILL HELP IN THE FUTURE. SO WHERE WE'VE DONE THAT, HISTORICALLY AS JUST PART OF OUR BUDGET, AND WE DIDN'T CALL IT OUT, SPECIFICALLY. THIS PROVIDES CLARITY TO ONLY PAY DOWN THE DEBT, BUT TO ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT, SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS AS WELL. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE BUDGET FIRST? I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD ONE THING. I JUST KNOW HOW WHAT BOB AND MANAGER MR PETERS PATTERSON IS DONE UP TO THIS POINT, AND THIS IS AMAZING. HERCULEAN HERCULEAN EFFORT AND A GREAT JOB, AND I THINK I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE AND THE SIMPLICITY. YOU BRING THIS TO AS WELL, I THINK I'M GRASPING A LOT BETTER THAN I DID BEFORE, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU WITHOUT I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE FISCAL YEAR FY 22 23 THE BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST 2022 ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH 2023 AS PROPOSED. 2ND 2ND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN RAY SECOND COUNCILMAN COTTON ALL IN FAVOR. SORRY YES, SORRY, VOCAL. WE'LL GO FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, CHARLES. HERE IN FAVOR. MHM FAVOR IN FAVOR IN FAVOR IN FAVOR. IN FAVOR. YES. IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES 70. THANK YOU. OKAY THE NEXT ITEM IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.

[26. Conduct a public hearing to consider and act upon an ordinance adopting a tax rate of $0.51 per $100 valuation for fiscal year 2022-2023. (RBS)]

THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE. AND SINCE WE ONLY HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS A, UH. GO AHEAD AND HAC HEARING. AND THEN ADOPT THE TAX

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ONCE A PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN, THE PUBLIC IS ENCOURAGED EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS. AT THIS TIME. DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE STAFF PRESENTATION? OKAY? SINCE UH, SO AGAIN I'LL SAY THIS HERE IS THAT THIS WILL BE THE ONLY PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THE FY 2022 2023 PROPOSED TAX RATE. THE TOWN COUNCIL WILL VOTE ON BOTH THE 2022 2023 PROPOSED BUDGET BUDGET AND THE PROPOSED TAX RATE AT TONIGHT'S MEETING IS PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED AND SCHEDULED. WHAT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN TO PUBLIC HAS ENCOURAGED TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS. AT THIS TIME I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS EVERYONE IN LINE TO SPEAK. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ROOM THAT LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME IT COUNCIL JUST ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVED THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 51 CENTS, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 16.38% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.

NET RIGHT ONE. MAYBE NOT. YOU'RE RIGHT. IS THAT THE CORRECT THAT'S RIGHT MY SECOND MY FAULT . WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHARLES COTTON, SECOND BY MARCUS RAY BEGAN A RECORD VOTE WILL START FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. IN FAVOR. IN FAVOR IN FAVOR IN FAVOR, ALSO IN FAVOR. YES, SOMETIMES BEAR THE MOTION PASSES 70. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BOB. NEXT TO MAKE A MOTION RATIFIED THE PROPERTY TAX

[27. Make a motion to ratify the property tax increase in the budget for fiscal year (FY) 2022-2023. (RBS)]

[28. Consider and act upon an ordinance amending Article 1.04, “Boards, Commissions and Committee,” of Chapter 1, “General Provisions,” of the Code of Ordinances establishing the Community Engagement Committee as a standing advisory committee to the Town Council. (RB)]

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'VE WORKED THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN IN A ROUGH TIME, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ON THIS EVERY ONE OF YOU. SO THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU, MR I BELIEVE THIS WAS AN ALL HANDS. EFFORT IS WHAT? UH, SO, BUT THANK YOU. TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED. IT IS IT IS NOTED AND APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU MENTIONED THAT ALSO PROBABLY THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MR PATTERSON. THE CTC WAS ESTABLISHED IN DECEMBER OF 2021 IS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENHANCING THE TOWN'S INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC. THE CDC IS COMPRISED OF 11 PROSPER RESIDENTS, WITH THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS SERVING AS LIAISONS. MONTHLY MEETINGS HAVE BEEN HELD FOR OVER A YEAR, AND THE COMMITTEE HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS ON SEVERAL INITIATIVES TO IMPROVE THE TOWN'S COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS. IN MAY OF THIS YEAR, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPED A WORK PLAN TO OUTLINE THEIR ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THE PLAN INCLUDES ATTENDANCE AT TOWN EVENTS AND ONGOING COMMUNICATION EFFORTS WITH RESIDENTS LIKE THE NEW RESIDENT LETTER, THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM AND THE C E C TOP THREE TOPICS. THAT ARE SHARED WITH RESIDENTS EACH MONTH THROUGH THE NEWSLETTER. THE CDC HAS BEEN ASSIGNED SEVERAL SPECIAL PROJECTS BY THE COUNCIL . SEVERAL OF THEM ARE LISTED ON YOUR SCREEN. THE MOST RECENT ASSIGNMENT IS TO SERVE AS A FOCUS GROUP FOR THE TOWN'S WEBSITE REDESIGN PROJECT. I'M SORRY. IT'S REALLY DUMB.

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THERE WE ARE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY? SO THE AS I MENTIONED BEFORE THE CTC WAS ESTABLISHED AS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE WITH 11 MEMBERS LED BY A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT WOULD FORMALIZE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE AS A STANDING ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE TOWN COUNCIL. THE STRUCTURE AND SCOPE AND PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE WOULD ESSENTIALLY REMAIN UNCHANGED, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. THE C E C WOULD BE SUBJECT TO NOTICE AND POSTING REQUIREMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS. ACT MEMBERS WOULD BE ASSIGNED PLACE NUMBERS WITH ALL TERMS, UM, RENEWING ON OCTOBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR. MEMBERS WOULD BE ASSIGNED PLACE NUMBERS AND ODD NUMBER OF PLACES WOULD BE ASSIGNED A ONE YEAR TERM AND EVEN NUMBER PLACES WOULD BE A SIGN A TWO YEAR TERM. AND THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY GET THIS COMMITTEE ON THIS ALIGNED WITH THE OTHER STANDING COMMITTEES AS FAR AS ELIGIBILITY APPLICATION AND APPOINTMENT FOR EACH YEAR.

SO THEY WOULD BE ON STAGGERED TERMS. AND WITH THAT, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS FOR ROBIN. NO QUESTIONS BUT COMMENT. YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THIS GROUP. AND UM I'VE BEEN EXTREMELY IMPRESSED BEING ONE OF THE LAY ZONES FOR COUNCIL. UM ALSO BRAINCHILD OF COUNCIL MEMBER, BARTLEY. SO UM THIS IS VERY EXCITING GROUP AND I'M HAPPY THAT IT'S COME TO THIS POINT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MY ONLY COMMENT IS THIS GROUP IS SO I MEAN, WE SORT OF THROUGH A VERY VAGUE YOU KNOW, TASK TO THEM TO BE OUR EYES AND EARS IN THE COMMUNITY. HELP US COMMUNICATE, HELP US GET FEEDBACK, AND THEY HAD JUST RUN WITH IT. THE NEW RESIDENT MIXER IS AMAZING. THE PASSPORT THAT THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS GOOD, AND IT'S ALL BEEN DONE, AND IT JUST GOES BACK TO OUR CITIZENS AND PROSPER EXCEPTIONAL AND THIS IS AN EXCEPTIONAL GROUP. AND I'M VERY, VERY PROUD OF THIS AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. AND, UM AND I'M JUST SUPER EXCITED. THANK YOU.

WELCOME. THANK YOU. YEAH I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE MORE. THING THAT YOU HAD TO DO YOU KNOW ONCE A MONTH AND KEEP TRACK OF SO, UH, ALLOWED US. YOU KNOW, DURING OUR INTERVIEWS TO BE ABLE TO HOLD ON TO SOME OF THE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT WE WISH WE COULD. AND SO IT KIND OF GAVE UM. YOU KNOW A WAY TO KEEP THEM INVOLVED IN THE TOWN, AND I THINK FROM THAT COMMITTEE, AT LEAST TO HAVE BEEN PROMOTED TO P AND Z. SO, UM YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS WANTING TO GET INVOLVED, AND THIS WAS ANOTHER. AVENUE THAT WE COULD USE TO DO THAT, AND SO, UM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE TIME THAT YOU PUT IN. UM AND YEAH, THE RESIDENT MIXER, I THINK IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE YOU KNOW THE CHERRY ON TOP OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE. AND, UM YEAH. YOU KNOW THEY'LL HAVE TO ADHERE TO SOME OF THE NEW RULES AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA GO. BUT IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE. SO PREPARE THEM. WE WILL PREPARE THEM. INVITE EVERYBODY TO THE YEAH, THEIR FIRST OFFICIAL MEETING. IT WILL BE IT'LL BE. IT'LL BE A LOT OF FUN. THANK YOU. FOR THE KIND WORDS. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH THIS GROUP AARON, EXCEPTIONAL GROUP OF RESIDENTS, AND IT HAS BEEN REALLY ENJOYABLE TO HEAR THEIR IDEAS AND BE ABLE TO FORWARD WITH SOME OF THOSE WITH COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AND AGAIN, I THINK I THINK THE NEW RESIDENT MIXTURE IS SOMETHING VERY NEW AND DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE, AND I THINK IT REALLY SETS THE STANDARD FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT WITH THIS GROUP. OKAY? COUNCILMAN BARTLEY WOULD YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR US? I MADE IT TO APPROVED. THE ORDINANCE AMENDING ARTICLE 1.4 BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEE OF CHAPTER ONE GENERAL PROVISIONS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. ESTABLISHING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE IS A STANDING ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE TOWN COUNCIL. YEAH, I'LL SECOND OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILOR BARTLEY. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HODGE IS ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU . GREAT JOB. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS

[29. Discuss update to the Thoroughfare Plan. (HW)]

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SO UM, REAL QUICK. JUST SOME OF THE MAJOR CHANGES. YOU'LL SEE WHY THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A MAJOR CHANGE. I'M SORRY. JUST SOMETHING PARKWAY JUST SOUTH OF FRONTIER PARKWAY APARTMENT ROAD . YOU CAN SEE WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A SHIFT IN ALIGNMENT THERE, UH, SOUTH WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, WITH A HARD DEVELOPMENT, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT CHANGE. UH COLEMAN AND FIRST STREET, YOU'LL SEE COLEMAN SOUTH OF FIRST STREET. HOW THAT KIND OF JOG TO LINE UP. WITH THE ALIGNMENT OF COLEMAN'S SOUTH OF LOVERS LANE. YOU ALSO SEE WE'VE GOT KIND OF A LIME GREEN COLOR OF FIRST STREET BETWEEN COLEMAN AND CRAIG. THAT'S A NEW DESIGNATION BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD OF MAKING THAT AFFORD LINE, UNDIVIDED ROADWAY. THAT IS A NEW CLASSIFICATION, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE. AND THEN THE DNT COLLECTOR ROAD. THIS IS THE BETWEEN FRONTIER PARKWAY AND PROSPER TRAIL. WE KIND OF HAVE THIS KIND OF CRAZY, SQUIGGLY LINE HERE, UM YOU'LL SEE ON THE MIDDLE EXHIBIT MORE OF A STRAIGHT LINE THAT MATCHES THE ZONING EXHIBIT THAT WE HAD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. AS WELL AS IT DOES, AS YOU SEE, JOG A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE BACK OF HOMES THERE THAT'S ACTUALLY BASED ON WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT AN OLD ZONING EXHIBIT FROM LIKE 6 4007. THAT DID SHOW IN ALIGNMENT FOR THAT ROAD. SO WE DIDN'T NEED TO CORRECT THAT BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING SOME INTEREST ON THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALONG THE TOE WAY THERE, AND I DID BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. THAT THE THIS THIS DNT COLLECTOR ROAD SOUTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE CORNER OF FRONTIER, AND THE TOLLWAY DOES NOT MATCH WOULD THAT ZONING EXHIBITS? OUR PLAN IS TO CLARIFY THAT DND COLLECTOR ALIGNMENT HAS SHOWN IN THE MIDDLE AND IN THE LAST PIECE WAS THE DISCUSSION ON THIS FRONTIER PARK, YOU KNOW, ACCESS ALTERNATIVE. WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNCIL WANTS THAT SHOWN. ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS PROCESS, SO LOOKING FOR THAT DIRECTION TONIGHT IS, IF THAT'S A YES OR NO. SO GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. SO QUICK QUESTION ON THE NEW ALIGNMENT THAT YOU'RE SHOWING ON THE MIDDLE ONE. THAT'S A CONTINUATION IN THE THIRD IMAGE. HAVE WE HAVE COMMUNICATED BELIEVE THAT'S LIKES A PROSPER. BACKS UP TO THEM WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COMMUNICATED BECAUSE VISUALLY WE'VE HAD PREVIOUS, YOU KNOW WHERE THE ROADS. INFRASTRUCTURE WAS A GUIDE CORRECT ALIGNED. IT'S WHERE SPECIFICALLY WASN'T GONNA GO. THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS VERY UPSET ABOUT THAT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATIONS. THIS IS WHERE THIS ROAD IS GOING TO BE WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SPECIFICALLY THOSE 12 AND 15 HOMES, THE BACKUP TO IT, AND WE CAN DO THAT. DEFINITELY BEFORE WE GET TO SEE SYMBOL MAY RECALL THAT TELL ME COMMUNICATED YET AT ALL. CAN YOU DIRECTION? PROCESS. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DEPTH IS THERE? IN THAT BETWEEN THAT ROAD AND THE HOMES OVER THERE AND LIKES TO PROSPER IN THE ZONING EXHIBIT THEY HAD. YOU KNOW, YOU TYPICALLY HAVE YOUR STANDARD. YOU KNOW PARKWAY AT 10 FT. I BELIEVE ON THERE'S AN EXHIBIT. THEY HAD AN ADDITIONAL I WANT TO SAY 10 OR 15 FT. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY MENTIONED, BUT BACK THEN THEY ALSO HAD AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER BACK FROM THE STANDARD PARKWAY BEHIND THE HOMES. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S CAPTURED. ON THE ON THE. AIRPLANE UPDATE

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HAVE ADVOCATED FOR ANOTHER ACCESS. EGRESS FROM THE PARK, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE THIRD IMAGE.

YEP. YEP. ASKING THE QUESTION. I'M JUST TRYING SO HAVEN'T WE RECENTLY APPROVED ZONING IN THAT? SOUTHEAST CORNER OF. FRONTIER AND THE TOLLWAY. SO THIS IS THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE TOLLWAY FRONTIER. ESSENTIALLY STRAIGHTENED UP COLLECTOR. TO THE LEGS OF PROSPER DEVELOPMENT. SO JUST THAT ONE PIECES WHICH KIND OF STRAIGHTENED IT UP. BUT THE REST OF KIND OF CURVILINEAR THAT SHOWED IT BETWEEN, UH FRONT ESCAPE THE D N T AND THE BACKS OF THE LAKES AND PROSPER. WE NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP BECAUSE OF SOME PRIOR ZONING BACK IN. OH, SIX OH, EIGHT TIMEFRAME. WHEN THE TOMLIN HAD THAT PROPERTY. YOU MAY RECALL. WE WON'T COUNCIL BACK THEN THEY HAD THAT ROAD THAT WAS BEHIND THAT DEVELOPMENT APARTMENT. COMPLEX WHEN THEY ZONE THAT AND SO ON. AS THE YEARS PASSED, AND WE AMENDED THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN WE DIDN'T HONOR THE EXHIBIT FOR THEIR ALIGNMENT AND THAT ZONING SO THE MIDDLE EXHIBIT IS NOT ONLY TO CAPTURE THE STRAIGHT ALIGNMENT FOR THE ZONING THAT WE'D RECENTLY APPROVED AT THE CORNER OF THE DNT FRONTIER, BUT ALSO TO CLAIRE ARE TO CLEAN UP. THE ALIGNMENT OF THE COLLECTOR FROM THAT POINT SOUTH TO PROSPER TRAIL BASED ON THE ZONING, SO IT'S SO THE 2ND AND 3RD DEPICTION THERE DOES NOT INFRINGE UPON THAT PROPERTY OWNER. RIGHT THERE IN THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER. BIG BOX THE ROAST RECENTLY. THAT'S THAT'S JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFIED THAT PART OF THAT WAS PART OF THEIR ZONING AND INCLUDED THAT COLLECTOR ROAD.

THE MIDDLE ONE IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THEIR PLAN, AND SO IS THE THIRD ONE. IT'S SAME THING. OKAY WITH THAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE THIRD. THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL RIGHT, BUT IT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT'S NOT DOESN'T AFFECT THE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO US. THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT THAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED TO DEVELOP WITH THAT I WOULD SUPPORT IT.

OKAY. I MISSED YES. SO WHERE IN RELATIONSHIPS WORST FRONTIER PARK PUT YOUR PARKS THE KIND OF SEE THE OKAY. DID WE GREENWOOD THERE, DID WE NOT? ALREADY SPEAK WITH AN AFRICAN ABOUT ZONING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND WE WENT THROUGH DEBATE WITH THEM. WE DO? WE DID COME BACK. WE DID SPEAK TO THEM. I THINK AT ONE POINT CAME BACK TO CASTLE AND THEY WERE THEY. THEY SAID THEY WERE NOT IN FAVOR. NO THAT WAS ONLY THE WESTERN SIDE OF THAT COLLECTOR. PROPERTY IS THE ONLY THING THAT WE'VE TALKED TO ANYBODY ABOUT. WELL, THEY THEY REPRESENTED THE TRACK TO THE EAST OF IT, TOO. BUT THEY WEREN'T. THEY WEREN'T HERE IN FRONT OF US WITH THAT THEY DIDN'T COME FORWARD WITH THAT THEY DIDN'T COME FORWARD WITH ANYTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACK. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT ROADWAY, DIDN'T THEY DID LOOK AT IT, AND THEY SAID THEY WERE NOT. IN FAVOR OF IT. YES, THE ENGINEER THAT WAS THEY? THEY REPRESENTED BOTH WEST OF THE DNT COLLECTOR AND EAST. EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE JUST LOOKING AT THE EVALUATION CAME WITH THEM.

ZONING CHANGES OF WHILE AGO WAS ON PETE WERE YOU MAY HAVE BEEN PNC TOO. BUT IT DIDN'T. IT WASN'T THERE WAS NO SITE PLANNING, REMEMBER, THEY JUST THEY JUST SAID WHAT THEY WOULD NOT DO THAT. BUT THOSE NEIGHBORS AND THE BUFFER RING AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THERE WAS NO SITE PLAN. THAT'S CORRECT. SO US PUTTING THAT THERE DOESN'T INTERRUPT A CURRENT. SITE PLAN

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WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. IS THAT MUCH FOR YOU? SO I UNDERSTAND IT DOES. UH, SO THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PRESENTED ON THAT PIECE OF LAND, BUT IT JUST HASN'T BEEN APPROVED. IS THAT CORRECT? SO NO, NO, I'M SORRY. I'M NOT CLARIFY. WE OKAY? WE CAME BACK. WE HAD ANOTHER DISCUSSION.

FUTURE ITEMS BACK BACK BACK IN JUNE OR JULY. WE SHOWED THIS ALIGNMENT OF POTENTIAL CONNECTION FROM FRONTIER PARK, BUT IT DID GO ALL THE WAY TO THE DNT. SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE CLARIFYING IS THE PIECE FROM THE COLLECTOR TO THE D N T DID HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE ZONING FOR THE HARD CORNER THAT WAS IN PLACE, AND THAT WAS A CONCERN THE SAME , THE SAME CONSULTANT DID HAVE CONCERNS WITH IT FROM D N T RESCUE ME FROM THE COLLECTOR OVER THE PARK, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING SUBMITTED ON THAT PROPERTY AT THAT TIME. AND I DON'T. I DIDN'T HEAR ANY ANY COMMENTS FROM THEM. YOU MAY HAVE, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANY COMMENTS FROM THEM ABOUT THE REST OF PROPERTY. THERE'S NOTHING WAS TALKED ABOUT AT THAT BECAUSE WE WERE HEARING ONLY ABOUT THE PROPERTY. THAT WAS THE BIG BOX. PROPERTY WHICH IS WEST OF THAT COLLECTIVE, RIGHT. THEY DIDN'T AT LEAST TALK TO US ABOUT ANYTHING EAST OF THERE. COLLECTIVE ROAD RECALL LIKE A AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT THERE WAS LIKE A TWO STORY. UM BUILDING AND WE WERE DEBATING OVER THE DISTANCE FROM THE FENCE. AND THEN THAT WAS A ZONING, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ROADS OR ANY ANY SITE PLANS WITH THAT 30 AND THAT'S WHEN WE MADE LIMITATION. FOR THIS COULD BE OFFICE USED AND IT HAD TO BE TWO STORY AND HAD TO HAVE A BUFFER AND HAD ATALANTA RIGHT. HAVEN'T BROUGHT A SITE PLAN THAT WAS JUST DESIGNING STRAIGHT. OKAY OK . YEAH IT'S POSSIBLE WITHOUT INTERRUPTING. YOU KNOW, A CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AND YEAH, THAT'D BE A GOOD IDEA. I THINK.

YEAH WHAT I'VE HEARD, MAYBE LIKE, SAID THE COUNCIL MATTER. I MEAN, THERE'LL BE CONCERNS SHARED CONCERNS WITH US WHEN WE BROUGHT THE OTHER ONE FORWARD, BUT AGAIN THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, PROS AND CONS TO FIX THEIR DEVELOPMENT OR FUTURE PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT. YEAH WE COULD AT LEAST GO FORWARD WITH IT AGAIN. IT'S A TWO LANE.

CORRECT YES, COLLECTOR AND IT COULD BE INCORPORATED TO ME. CAN EASILY CUT THAT PROPERTY CAN EASILY ACCOMMODATE THE TWO LANE RIGHT IN FACT, BENEFIT THAT SITE. THEY MAY OBJECT TO IT, BUT IT CAN, IN FACT, BENEFIT THAT SITE. IN THE THIRD PAIR PLANNED IS RECORDED AND ALLOWS US TO USE IMPACT THESE TO PAY FOR SO THERE'S THERE ARE PRO. THAT'S WHY BRAD. THEY'LL BE PUT ON.

THEY'LL BE PUTTING ACCESS THROUGH THERE ANYWAY WITH CONCRETE SO THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. SO I HEAR IT ADDED TO IT AND WE'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS. YES SIR. MR. MAYOR. WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CLARITY ON. GENERAL DIRECTION TO GO FORWARD WITH EVERYTHING YOU'VE SEEN TONIGHT. NOT JUST THIS ONE. THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES, BUT ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLANTS MOST WEEKS, BUT THOSE ARE THE MAJOR ONES IN STONE. THIS WILL NOW WORK PROCESSES. YES, SIR. THIS GOES THROUGH A VERY FORMAL PROCESS, WHICH WILL REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING AT PNC AND APPROVAL AND PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE COUNCIL AND APPROVAL. EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT. GOOD OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,

[30. Discussion regarding a potential Capital Improvements Sub-Committee. (RKP)]

WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS MEETING IN THESE MEETINGS AND THAT JUNE WINDOW SO THAT THIS

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THE COUNCIL WOULDN'T SEE THOSE, THEN IT WOULD END UP IN THE BUDGET AND BECOMES PART OF THE FORMAL ADOPTION PROCESS. THAT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, AND WE BRING THIS BACK AS A FORMAL ACTION ITEM FOR YOU AT A LATER DATE. I BELIEVE IT'S A CRITICAL ITEM FOR US TO BEGIN TO ACCOMPLISH, ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE LARGER DOLLARS OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, SO I WOULD SUPPORT IT. IF THERE'S ANYONE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION, PLEASE. WE NEED IT. I THINK SO. I'LL SEND IT BACK. THE ONLY THING I MIGHT ADD IS THAT IS THERE IS IT JUST STRICTLY THE COUNCIL BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO GET A CROSS SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY IF WE COULD, AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS INCLUDE A CROSS SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY. WHEN YOU BIGGEST COUNCIL I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. CAN WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES CITIZENS? CAN ONE RECOMMENDATION I WOULD HAVE IS THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE BE COUNCIL MEMBERS , BUT THAT SUBCOMMITTEE CAN THEN CALLED MEETINGS AND YOU CAN HAVE AD HOC. MEETINGS WITH. SOME OF THE COMMUNITY THAT KIND OF STUFF IT JUST ALLOWS A LITTLE MORE CONTROL. AND THAT WAY, YEAH, I BELIEVE IT'S A NEEDED THING SO EXPENSIVE IF YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT FOR OUR NEXT WILL DO.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

[Reconvene in Regular Session and take any action necessary as a result of the Closed Session.]

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