Aug 16, 2022 Planning and Zoning Commission

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RECORDING IN PROGRESS. COMMISSIONERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I LIKE TO MAKE A

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SUBJECT TO TALENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. I HAVE A 2ND 2ND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HARRIS, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WULF ALL IN FAVOR. ALL OUR PASSES BY A 4 TO 0 VOTE.

UM ALL IN FAVOR. MOVE ON TO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND

[4. Conduct a Public Hearing, and consider and act upon a request for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Private Street Development, on 16.4± acres, located on the south side of First Street, east of Coit Road (S22-0008).]

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UM AND REALLY, THERE IS A PROCESS AS FAR AS AT THE TOWN IS WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT OR WANTING TO GO THROUGH AND CONVERTING THAT BACK TO A PUBLIC STREET. SO WHAT'S THE INTENT? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE INTENT IS TO KEEP THEM PRIVATE FOR THE DURATION, AND I'LL REFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT. AND DAVID JUST TO CLARIFY MY UNDERSTANDING IS A PRIVATE STREET WITH A GATED COMMUNITY HAS A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ACTUAL HOR. THE DEVELOPMENTS OF THE TOWN WOULD NOT TECHNICALLY HAVE ANY I GUESS INTERACTION WITH THAT, EXCEPT FOR POLICE AND FIRE ACCESS. IS THAT STILL THE CASE? OKAY. SO DURING CONSTRUCTION THE TOWN ALSO HAS RESPONSIBILITY ONCE A GATE GOES, AND THAT CHANGES WHEN DOES THAT ACTUALLY SHIFTED THE GATED COMMUNITY TYPICALLY, UM, SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED FOR PRIVATE STREETS, IT WOULD BE ALL MAINTAINED BY THE H O A AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH THE ACCESS POINTS OR WITH ACCESS GRANTED FROM POLICE AND FIRE TOWN HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY. FINANCIAL RESPONSIBLE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IF THE APPLICANT IS PRESIDENT AND WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. THEY ARE WELCOME TO BELIEVING CONDITIONERS. MATT MOORE CLAYMORE ENGINEERING THREE IN ONE CELL PHONE. HERE IN ON THE PROPERTY. DAILY PRETTY GOOD JOB OF SUMMARIZING THIS IS SIMPLE, PROVIDED THE REQUEST FOR A PRIVATE GAME. THE INTENT RIGHT NOW IS TO BE PRIME MINISTER. RIGHT NOW. THERE IS NO DISCUSSION OF THE COUNT TAKING THESE STREETS ON AT ANY POINT BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS WITH MY CLIENTS, SO THAT OUR BEHAVIOR HAPPENING? ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE. UM. OPEN THIS UP TO A TO THE PUBLIC TO COME AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC, IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE. NO, OKAY. CLOSED THE PUBLIC SECTION AND BRING IT BACK FOR COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION ACTION. NO I MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR SUBJECT TOWN COUNT TALENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CHARLES THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER AGAIN, WOLF ALL IN FAVOR. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[5. Conduct a Public Hearing, and consider and act upon a request to rezone 7.9± acres from Office (O) to Planned Development-Office (PD-O), generally to modify the development standards to facilitate an office/retail development, including drive-through coffee shop as a permitted use, located on the northwest corner of Preston Road and Coleman Road. (Z21-0013).]

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I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CARRYING EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT ORDINANCES CARRYING THAT GUIDANCE INTO FUTURE MEETINGS. THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF HAVING WORK SESSIONS FOR US TO HAVE ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE. SO AS LONG AS AND THE APPLICANT EXPLAIN THAT THAT WAS TAKEN TO ACCOUNT. AS THEY WERE WORKING THROUGH THE PLANS. SO WITH THAT, BEING THE CASE, I'M COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT WITH IT, UM AS LONG AS YOU KNOW, I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING ANY OUR POSITION THAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OPPOSITION. I THINK THAT THE HOTEL TO THE SPECIFIC USE FOR MEN IS A GOOD ONE OF US HAVE A SECOND CHANCE AT THAT PARTICULAR PIECE, IF IT EVER COMES UP. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO YOU ON THAT.

AT LEAST THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN RIGHT NOW, SO OBJECTIONS. THE DROP THROUGH. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. AND I THINK THE DRIVER ALSO THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING. ITS PLACE IS GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FROM, YOU KNOW, MINIMIZING ISSUES ON PRESS AND ROADS. I THINK THAT'S GOOD IN ANY RAPID EXISTS WOULD REALLY BE THEIR OWN PROBLEM INTERNALLY ON THEIR LOTS OF PARKING UNLESS ENCOUNTER ISSUE. THAT'S RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO NUMBER FIVE TO PASS SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS STAFF ON THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE HOTEL. TO THAT SECTION AND OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY'VE MADE. SECOND OKAY? SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CHARLES IN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HARRIS DO I NEED TO REPEAT ANYTHING THAT HE SAID FOR THE

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[6. Conduct a Public Hearing, and consider and act upon a request to rezone 11.3+- acres of Commercial (C) to Planned Development-Commercial (PD-C) to allow uses such as luxury office/warehouse, automobile storage, and recreational vehicle parking, located on the west side of Coleman Street, south of Prosper Trail. (Z22-0008).]

UM AS YOU CAN TELL THE USES ARE AUTOMOBILE STORAGE RECREATIONAL VEHICLE. AND A LUXURY OFFICE WAREHOUSE. UM PRETTY MUCH THE, UM. ONE THING TO NOTE. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IS THAT THE AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU THE EXHIBIT D. HMM. NONE OF THE USES WITHIN THIS ARE SORT OF OPEN TO THE OPEN, BUT CONSIDERED AS OPEN STORAGE. EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE IN CLOSING ABILITY, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE. UM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY, IF IT IS OPEN STORAGE AND WE CAN YOU KNOW IT COMES INTO A LOT OF DIFFERENT STANDARD SCREENING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, UM AGAIN. THE APPLICANT IS OVER HERE TO KIND OF DISCUSS ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS. THIS IS SORT OF A NEW USE. IT'S A LUXURY OFFICE. UM WHERE? HOUSE UM YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED. PRETTY MUCH THE PRIMARILY MADE OUT OF BRICK AND STONE AS YOU CAN SEE THERE. UM AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S NOT ON AIR WILL FOLLOW THE A METAL BUILDING WITH A MYSTERY. BUT HERE HMM. UM AS FAR AS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I MEAN, PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE SURROUNDING AREA IS ZONED AS COMMERCIAL. UM AND IT DOES CONFORM TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND UH, NOTICES WERE SENT OUT AS UM, IN ACCORDANCE TO STATE LAW. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FEEDBACK OR ANYTHING FROM THERE IS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT NOTHING THAT WAS CONCERNING AND STUFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE, UM RESIGNING ARE REZONING REQUEST LIKE I MENTIONED THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. JUST BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LUXURY OFFICE AND A REGULAR OFFICE IS WHAT SO PRETTY MUCH AND I'LL REFER SORT OF A LITTLE BIT TO THE APPLICANT AS FAR AS FOR WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO, UM THEY'RE NOT A LOT OF OTHER TOWNS OR CITIES KIND OF HAVE IT.

THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED LIKE MAN CAVES. BUT WERE YOU CAN DO WORK AND SORT OF LIKE AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE TYPE? UM NOW KIND OF LET THE APPLICANT KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT THAT WAS KIND OF A REASON. WHY FOR THIS PD IS BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO CREATE SORT OF THE USE. WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN CHINA PROSPEROUS SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE GOING FOR THAT ROUTE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU, OR FOR THE APPLICANT SPECIFICALLY, BUT TO THE POINT ABOUT THE MAN CAVE IDEA. IS THERE A CERTAIN GOAL PERCENTAGE OF HOW MANY ARE GOING TO BE? YOU KNOW TARGETS IN TERMS OF THAT REASON ASK, THE QUESTION IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND IN SOME OF THESE NO IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE IN THE COUNTRY TO HAVE THESE AND IT TURNS INTO A GATHERING PLACE FOR GUYS GRILLING DRINKING BEER, AND WE'RE DOING ALL KIND OF STUFF AND MUSIC. IT'S PLAYING AND WE LITERALLY HAVE A TON OF KIDS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE COULD SPEAK TO THE PLAN OR HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE LINED UP FOR THE TOWN OR FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY YEAH, I'LL PROBABLY JUST REFER THAT TO THE AFRICAN AS FAR AS TO WHAT THE INTENT IS FOR THAT, BUT I MEAN, REALLY UM YOU KNOW THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SELL ALCOHOL AND IT WOULD JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL OF OUR TOWN REGULATIONS THAT I MEAN IT WOULD YOU KNOW, AS MENTIONED ON THE ON EXHIBIT M IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU KNOW THERE. THERE'S PEOPLE CAN'T LIVE THERE . IT'S NOT FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES. I MEAN, YOU KNOW IT WILL. IT WON'T BE ABLE TO WON'T BE LIKE A LIQUOR STORE OR ANYTHING IN THERE AS WELL. UM, THEN I'LL REFER TO THE AFRICAN FULLY UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DISTRIBUTE IT. BUT I KNOW IN SOME OF THESE SITUATIONS, WE HAVE FRIENDS WHO LIVE BY ONE IN ANOTHER CITY, AND IT'S A MAN CAVE TYPE THING AS THEY COME IN AND WATCH GAMES AND CRANK UP MUSIC, AND IT IS BEING A MORE OF A HANGOUT, SOCIAL PLACE, AND I JUST I WORRY ABOUT

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YEAH I MEAN, THERE THERE, INCLUDING. YOU KNOW, STORAGE OF THE AUTOMOBILES. RV STORAGE OF THAT. BUT REALLY, THE DRIVER IS THE MAIN GARAGE. I WASN'T REASON TO INTRODUCE NEW YEAR'S THE OFFICE PIECE IS REALLY JUST AN ADD ON FOR PEOPLE WHO DROPPED THEIR CARS OFF TO HAVE A SPOT.

SIT AND RELAX OR HANG OUT. YEAH, I MEAN, THEY COULD WORKER I MEAN, IT WOULD BE SORT OF THERE.

AND AGAIN, I'LL LET THE OPPORTUNITY. YEAH, THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME AND ADDRESS. THE COMMISSION. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MATT MOORE, CLAREMORE ENGINEERING 301 SOUTH COLEMAN PROSPER, TEXAS. YOU'RE NOT ON BEHALF OF A M. R AND MICHAEL BEATTIE, WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE WITH ME. I'M GONNA TRY AND TAKE A HIGH LEVEL APPROACH TO THIS. SO OBVIOUSLY THE COLEMAN ROAD CORRIDOR LEADING INTO DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF WITH MANY DIFFERENT PROJECTS. WE UNDERSTAND THE PROXIMITY DOWNTOWN. THIS TRACK IS OWN C ONE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MORE LIBERAL ZONING CLASS CLASSIFICATION THAT'S IN THE TOWN ZONING ORDINANCE TODAY. TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

WE'VE BASICALLY AGREED TO DO SOME OFFICE RETAIL UP ON FRONT. IT'S A 25 FT ASIDE, SO IT APPEARS ALMOST TWO STORY. TO YOU KNOW, KIND OF FRAME THE ROAD SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE SOUTH OF THIS TRACK AND LONG COLEMAN. WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THAT USE. ALLOCATED THERE ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AS STAFF INDICATED BACK BEHIND THERE IN A GATED AREA IS WHERE WE HAVE RV AND BOAT STORAGE AND CLOSED STORAGE AREAS. AS WELL AS THE MOM'S GARAGE MAN, CAVE. WHATEVER TERM YOU WANT TO PUT TO IT. WHICH CAN BE YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEBODY'S CAR COLLECTION. SOMEBODY'S HOBBY. SOMEBODY JUST , YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO. OBVIOUSLY WE'VE SEEN THE MAN CAVE MOM GARAGE PRODUCT. POP UP AROUND THE METROPLEX IN DIFFERENT SPOTS. WE'VE GOT THE RAILROAD. TO OUR WEST. WE'VE GOT EAGLES CROSSING TO THE NORTH, WHICH I'M IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING. ANOTHER 135,000 SQUARE FEET OF BASICALLY INDUSTRIAL SPACE INDUSTRIAL OFFICE SPACE. ON THAT PROPERTY NOW AND THEN WE'VE GOT OBVIOUSLY THE BACON PROPERTY, THE SOUTH AND THEN OBVIOUSLY REYNOLDS ACROSS THE STREET. WE FEEL LIKE WITH THE SIZE OF THIS PROPERTY, THE MIXTURE OF USES AGAIN THE GATED NATURE BACK BEHIND THESE BACK BEHIND THE OFFICE RETAIL LONG COLEMAN AT THIS ISN'T APPLICABLE USE, GIVEN THE RAILROAD AND SOME OF THE ADJACENT ZONING THAT WE HAVE AROUND US. IT'S A UNIQUE MARKET . I'M A PART OF A COUPLE OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE METROPLEX WITH THIS TYPE OF USE.

THOSE PARTICULAR USES OUR CONDO TYPE DEVELOPMENTS. WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY SOLD OCCUPANT OF THOSE SPACES. YOU KNOW, HIGH FINISH OUT HIGH DOLLAR INPUT. THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE CONDUCT. THESE ARE GOING TO BE A FOUR LEAST TYPE PRODUCT. I DON'T ENVISION. THE SAME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, HIGH INVESTMENT THAT WE HAD ON SOME THINGS OTHERS WITH IT BEING FOR RELEASE PRODUCT. IT MAY BE BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALL BEHIND CLOSED GATES AND AREAS WE DON'T HAVE AREAS SET ASIDE FOR GRILLING OR CONGREGATING OR ANYTHING ELSE. WE BASICALLY HAVE THE DR ISLES AND THESE BUILDINGS. WITHIN THAT GATED AREA TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE USES. SO UM YOU KNOW, I THINK STAFF DID A GOOD JOB AND WE'VE GOT A VERY NICE FRONT TO SIDE WITH RETAIL OR WITH THE RETAIL AND OFFICE WITH BRICK AND STONE TO CREATE THAT DOWNTOWN FIELD. WE'VE GOT THE STAGGERED FACADES THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF ON AGAIN. WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A APPROPRIATE USE KIND OF GIVEN THE LOCATION THE SIZE OF THE PARCEL. AND WHERE WE'RE AT IT'S A COOL VENUE. I WAS INTRIGUED WHEN I READ IT FOR SURE. IN TERMS OF THE RENTAL IS THIS WORK AS A TRADITIONAL STORAGE UNIT OF WHERE IT'S MONTH TO MONTH OF THIS ANY COMMITMENT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I BELIEVE IT'S ALL JUST MUGGED. YEAH, OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW ALSO, SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN SOME ILLEGAL ACTIVITY

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ORDINANCES WHICH REGULATES CERTAIN ACTIVITIES SO IT COULD BE A CO COMPLIANCE ISSUE. BUT AS WELL, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THESE GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE RENTAL CONTRACTS ARE GOING TO OUTLINE.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED IF THERE'S ANY ILLEGAL ACTIVITY THAN WILL HAVE RIGHTS AS WELL PICKED THAT PARTICULAR TENTATIVE. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S DISCOVERED. GOT IT. COOL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. TURN ON THE RADIO THERE. I DO LIKE THE DESIGN. I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE FOR THAT FRONT. I LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS BUT OBVIOUSLY WORKING AT THEIR RULES AND LOOKING AT NUMBER SIXT C VERY. SIX IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE LUXURY WAREHOUSES MAY NOT BE USED TO CONDUCT BUSINESS IN THE FORM OF PERSONAL BASICALLY STORE FRONT RETAIL USES WILL NOT BE PERMITTED WITHIN IT. BUT ITS CONSTRAINTS JUST THE ONES THAT ARE FACING THE STREET. IS THAT WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SAYING? BECAUSE I TOOK IT. I THINK WHAT THE INTENT IS WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A RETAIL SPACE BACK BEHIND THE GATED AREAS WHERE YOU'VE GOT CUSTOMERS COMING IN PARKING SHOPPING WITHIN. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THESE MOMS, GARAGES OR MAN CAVE UNITS FROM A RETAIL PERSPECTIVE. THESE ARE SOLELY FOR THEIR INDIVIDUAL USE, NOT A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING LOST IN SOME OF THE WORDING THERE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE PERMITTING STOREFRONT RETAIL IN THE FRONT. EVERYTHING FACING COLEMAN OBVIOUSLY WOULD HAVE THAT ABILITY IS I JUST WANTED TO KNOW FOR THE RECORD THAT CHAIRMAN DANIELS CAME IN TO THE MEETING AT 6:30 P.M. WELCOME. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE THEY ALL THE UNITS HEATED AND COOLED. OR IS THAT SUBJECT TO THE TENANT WHO RENTS IT? MR BABY COME UP.

PLEASE GET UNIT COMING. I USED TO ALWAYS PRESENT PROJECTS. IT'S NICE TO TAKE A LITTLE BREAK PROJECT WILL BE IN A FEW MINUTES LATER, I WAS COMING FROM A WORK SESSION WITH ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL AND IT GOT INTO BUDGET. IT'S LIKE, OH, GOD RIGHT TODAY, BUT ANYWAY UM, NO. THE INTENT IS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO OFFER THAT AS A FINISH OUT OPTION. WE'RE GOING TO FRAME IN THE LOFT SPACE AND ALL OF THE THERE'S ONLY 48 OF THOSE UNITS BY THE WAY. UM WITH ALL THAT I HAVE THE SECOND STORY MEZZANINE FRAMED IN. IT'LL BE PRE WIRED. AND IF SOMEONE CHOOSES THAT OPTION, IT JUST CHANGES THE RED THAT WILL BE SET UP FOR THE OTHER THING AND WORKING THROUGH STAFF THERE OFF FIRE SUPPRESSION, THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. FIRE RISING ROOMS IN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORKED OUT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM WITH INDIVIDUAL CONTROLLER THAT GIVES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THE WRITING WILL INSPECT, SO SOMETHING'S NOT KOSHER AND WE CAN'T QUITE KICK HIM OUT. YET WITH THE LEAST I CAN CALL DOWNTOWN. SAY HEY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT UNIT 308. WE GOT A FIRE OF THEM COULD HAVE KIND OF THING. AND IS THIS DESIGN CONCEPTUAL IS JUST KIND OF ALMOST ONLINE OUT IN TERMS OF THE LARGER UNITS SMALLER, JUST KIND OF WHERE YOU WANT THE LAND.

THAT'S THAT IS THAT IS THE DESIGN. THAT'S IT, OKAY? THERE. WE WON'T DEVIATE FROM THAT. AND THE QUESTION WITH TRAFFIC. ALSO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THERE CERTAIN TIME TODAY WITH SCHOOL BUSSES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. I KNOW SOME OF THESE FOLKS ARE COMING HERE ONCE EVERY FEW MONTHS SUMMER COMING ON WHAT IS THE ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC FLOW COMING UP? THESE ARE BIG VEHICLES THAT ARE IN HERE, UM, CHAMPION GENERATORS VERY LOW. THE RVS MOST OF HIM ANYWAY. THE STOREFRONT ALONG, COLEMAN HAS SAID IT IS LIKE ANY OTHER STRIP CENTER, THE SAME PARKING RATIOS EVERYTHING AND WE'RE WE REDID ALIGNMENT AT THE SOUTH END. IF YOU LOOK YOU'LL SEE A STREET EASEMENT THAT'S HASHED. WE'RE BUILDING HALF OF THAT TREATIES AND 24 FT APPARENTLY PLANTED AND WILL BE DEDICATED WHEN YOU'RE DONE, AND THEN EVENTUALLY THAT STREET GETS THE FULL SECTION BILL AND DIVIDED ENTRANCE ACROSS MEXICAN THROUGH TRAFFIC SAFETY WANTS TO BUILD THE REST OF THE STREET. THAT'S A COOL CONCEPT. WELL, UH, WILL YOU ALL BE PROVIDING SECURITY ON SITE SECURITY, PART OF WILL BE ALARMED. AND WE HAVE CAMERAS AND EVERYTHING IS GATED. I'M ACTUALLY GONNA TURN THE MEETING BACK OVER TO YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND, SO, YEAH, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. WELL, THANKS, EVERYONE AND APPRECIATE IT. WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING HERE.

WE HAVE NOT. ARE THERE ANY ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH US OUT ON THIS EVENING? ANYONE HEARING ANYONE HERE? THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THIS. FOR THE STAFF. DID WE HAVE ANY ANY COMMENTS ON THIS EITHER WAY, FOR OR AGAINST. ALRIGHT LET'S GO

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IT'S PRETTY MUCH NEEDS TO FOLLOW THOSE REGULATIONS. I'M THINKING IF YOU LIKE THE AUCTIONS, LIKE ONE OF THOSE THINGS, REALLY FOR TWICE A YEAR SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME BETWEEN AUCTIONS. LIKE ONCE A QUARTER YOU COULD HAVE A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS SMALL THINGS LIKE THAT ARE CODIFIED. I WOULDN'T WANT HIM TO COME BACK UP HERE TO SAY THAT I REALLY NEED TO DO THREE AUCTIONS A YEAR TO SETTLE STUFF. YEAH, THAT'S THE POINT OF MY QUESTION TO ASK SOME OF THESE ARE REALLY SPECIFIC. YEAH WE'RE WE'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ASK HIM IF SORRY. IF, UM YOU KNOW THAT WAS WHAT WAS PROPOSED, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. I DID GET WITH HEALTH AND CODE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY REGULATIONS ON THAT. AND REALLY, WE DIDN'T HAVE YOU KNOW ANYTHING , AND WE ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF A LOT OF THEM BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE CONCERNS OF THE SCORE JUST TRAFFIC AND SO UM, WE JUST LEFT IT AS IS PROPOSED FROM ARE THE APPLICANT WRONG, PLACE SAID. I'M JUST GIVING CONTEXT FOR ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS. I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU CAN APPEAR IF IT'S SMALL THINGS LIKE THAT, SO KEEP PROPOSED. YOU GUYS PROPOSE THESE AFRICAN PROPOSED? MM HMM. AND I GOT NO ZONING ORDINANCE DOES ALLOW SOME FLEXIBILITY. THERE IS EVEN A MINOR AMENDMENT. IF THERE'S A TEXT AMENDMENT, SO IF FOR SOME REASON THERE ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO CHANGE SOMETHING I THINK IT ONLY REQUIRES APPROVAL FROM PNG CUTS A MINOR AMENDMENT. UM SO I GUESS I GUESS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AND THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY. THANK YOU. HE DID REAL QUICK. IS THIS FOR THE GOODWILL USABLE SYSTEM TO BE ORIGINALLY THE GOODWILL WAREHOUSE DROP OFF THE GOODWILL WAS JUSTICE LOT RIGHT HERE. OKAY, SO IT WAS OKAY. YOU HAVE THE MONASTERY SCHOOL, MHM. JUST SO I'M CLEAR FROM MY SO IN TERMS OF THIS PROJECT AND IN TERMS OF ALSO THE TOWN ORDINANCE, THERE'S STILL SOME WORK TO BE DONE TO COMMISSION. CHARLES QUESTION. SO, WHAT WE APPROVED TONIGHT IS FOR THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY WAS STILL THE ABILITY TO AMEND THIS PRIOR TO OPENING. ARE WE LOCKED AND LOADED BASED ON THIS PROPOSAL, ALL AS ONE AS OF RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, YES, IT'S REQUEST IS FOR ALL OF THAT ONE. YEAH OKAY. SO AGAIN, IF LATER ON SOMETHING CHANGES AFTER THIS HAS GONE THROUGH CONSIDERATION FROM PNG AND COUNCIL YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE OF THE AUCTION IF THEY'RE WANTING TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL LOOKING MORE OPTIONS. WE WOULD FOLLOW THE PROCESS OF SOME SORT OF MINOR AMENDMENT AGAIN. WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT, UM, THIS WOULD BE THE ALL IN ONE REZONING REQUESTS. JUST WANT TO KNOW WE'RE COMMITTED TO TONIGHT.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED HIM. OKAY THAT WAS WRONG. SORT OF FIGURING OUT FOR THE AFRICAN. I KNOW WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING THE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS HERE. IS THIS AUCTION THING A BIG DEAL? I MEAN, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU ANTICIPATES? YES, YOU MAY. DIFFERENCES THIS ISN'T THIS STORAGE FACILITY THAT WE WON'T HAVE FIVE BY 55 BUTTON IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T PAY THE RENT THEIR HALF MILLION DOLLAR RV IS YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO WE DON'T NEED I'LL BE SURPRISED IF WE EVER HAVE AN OPTION. IN THE STOREFRONT ALONG HOME AND THAT'S CONVENTIONAL COMMERCIAL LEASING SPACE IS THE SYSTEM EVICTION PROCESS IS NOT AN OPTION THERE.

AND I CAN'T FORESEE. YEAH, CUTTING THE LOCKS ON SOMEBODY'S RV SPACE. AND I REALLY WASN'T TRYING TO BLOCK IT INTO THAT ISSUE. JUST GIVEN CONTEXT. IT WAS SO SPECIFIC. SOME OF THESE WERE I JUST DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE CODIFIED COMPLETELY SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE TO COME BACK IF HAPPY WITH SOMETHING. ITEMS THIS IS WHAT YOU DO WITH A SIMILAR PRODUCT AND OTHER OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. OTHER COMMUNITIES, OKAY. GOT IT ALL PLAY A LOT HERE IN THIS SPACE CLOSE TO WHERE YOU'RE CLOSER. FACILITY SIMILAR LIKE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST LIKE THE MAN CAVE THAT WE'VE DONE. AM OUR PARTNER HERE HAS STORES ALL OVER THE PLACE DOING ONE. OKLAHOMA. COOL THANK YOU. THANKS APPRECIATE THE FOLLOW UP. PLEASE NOTE FOR THE RECORD. 6 40 COMMISSIONER PETERSON. MEET

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LIKE WHAT? MYSELF AND FROM WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE, ESPECIALLY. IT'S A VERY UNIQUE SPACE WITH THE RAILROAD BEHIND IT. AND UH, YEAH, I THINK I THINK IT'S PRETTY HIGH END PRODUCT FOR WHAT IT IS SO COMMISSIONER VAN WOLF. ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? NO, SIR. I'M ON BOARD. I THINK IT'S GREAT. I THINK THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL NEED HERE. I THINK THE COMMUNITY WILL PROBABLY SUPPORT IT AND FILL IT UP PRETTY FAST. COMMISSIONER HARRIS COMMISSIONER CHARLES I THINK IT'S A GREAT LOOK FOR WHAT WHAT THIS BUILDING IS DESIGNED TO DO. I LOVE THAT THE WAY IT LOOKS IN THE FRONT FITS THE TOWN THINK IT'S GREAT DEGREE, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN EMOTIONAL ITEM NUMBER SIX. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. GO AHEAD, TOM. GO AHEAD. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TOO. SORRY.

YES, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON THE AGENDA. IS THIS SEVEN OR SIX? OKAY WE CAN GO WITH 66 FAST ONE. OKAY I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE REGULAR. WE HAVE EMOTIONAL FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER BEING WOLF TO APPROVE ADAM NUMBER SIX. WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL 2ND 2ND FROM COMMISSIONER CHARLES ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER SIX. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND MOTION CARRIES 4 TO 0 WITH COMMISSIONER CHARLES COMMISSIONER HARRIS COMMISSIONER DANIEL COMMISSIONER VAN WILL APPROVING. THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG NOW TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN THIS

[7. Conduct a Public Hearing, and consider and act upon a request to rezone 5.6± acres from PD-21 and Single Family-15 (SF-15) to a new Planned Development-Office/Retail (PD-O/R) for office and retail uses, located on the west side of Preston Road north of Broadway Street. (Z22-0014).]

UM, WE DID. LOOK AT SORT OF LOOKING AT THE EXISTING, UM SCREENING AREA BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL. THEY ARE UTILIZING THAT, UM AS A SCREENING AREA, IT IS PRETTY HEAVILY VEGETATED. UM. AND SO THERE IS, UM YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE REQUEST THAT THE APPLICANT REQUESTED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. UM, THIS IS THE. GOOD STEPS. ALL FACADE PLAN. UM THE APPLICANT DID AGREED WITH DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. UM FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. UH, THE LAND. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. AS YOU CAN TELL, UM YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO SORT OF. PUSH BACK AS FAR AS THOSE OFFICES AND NOT HAVE THEM RIGHT ON THE RESIDENTS OF THE NORTH. UH UM. AND SO THERE IS THAT LIVING SCREEN THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. IN ADDITION TO THE BLASKIC BUFFERS, UM WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE DUMPSTER LOCATION AS WELL. THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG DISCUSSIONS WE HAD, UM WE HAD A. I THINK IT WAS PROPOSED IN THE BACK TOWARDS THE RESIDENTS. WE TRY TO MOVE THAT SORT OF IN THE CORNER ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE IT IN THE FRONT, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KIND OF FIND A PERFECT LOCATION FOR IT. UM NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT. WE DID NOT RECEIVE. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME COMMENTS, BUT THERE WASN'T ANYTHING CONCERNING UM AND SO, YOU KNOW. WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY FEEDBACKS OR ANYTHING ON THIS, BUT WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING. I'M GONNA LOOK OVER HERE. WE DIDN'T GET ANY FROM THE LAST UPDATE.

THAT'S GREAT. OKAY JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS THE LATEST UPDATE. UM BUT OTHER THAN

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COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR DAVID ON THIS ISLAND. AT THIS TIME. IF NOT LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE APPLICANTS PRESENT STEEP STEP FORWARD, PLEASE. WE ALMOST GOT APPROVED A MOMENT AGO, ALMOST GETTING IN DAVID BOND ASPIRES. ENGINEERING UH, PROBLEM. ONE GEORGE BUSH, TURNBERRY AND RICHARDSON, SOMETIMES EIGHT. ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT REPRESENTING THIS REQUEST TONIGHT. I'M EXCITED TO GET THIS PIECE. UM MOVING AND LOOKING AT IT HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT. UM STAFF, DAVID DID A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING THE REQUEST, YOU KNOW, REALLY, IT'S AN EXPANSION TO PD 21 SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE SOUTH THERE WITH ONE MILL HILL, INCORPORATING THAT WESTERN 200 FT OF THE TRACKED INTO A COMMERCIAL ZONING, SO ESSENTIALLY, YOU KIND OF SEE THAT OLD ZONING LINE RUNNING THROUGH THE WESTERNMOST BUILDING HERE. ESSENTIALLY THAT THAT'S THE REQUEST IS TO ENCROACH IN. THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR BUILDINGS OF YOU KNOW, WE THINK OF HIGH QUALITY SCALE RESPECTING A LOT OF THAT EXISTING VEGETATION ALONG THE NORTH LINE WHERE WE BUMP UP AGAINST THE NEIGHBORS THERE. THIS SITE ALSO IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT'S CLOSE TO PRESTON YET DOESN'T HAVE PRESTON FRONTAGE SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE EAST SIDE BIG WILL BE ABOUT WHERE THAT THE CREEK AREA THERE WILL REMAIN IS INTACT AS IT IS TODAY. REALLY? YOUR THE MOVED AT THE TREE LINE. SORRY I'M GONNA STOP DOING THAT. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE SOME OF THE TREE LINE HERE ON THIS IMAGE. UM AND HOW WE'RE STAYING AWAY AND HONORING THAT SO EXCITED ABOUT THE REQUEST? OUR DEVELOPER, MR JACK MATTEL IS HERE AS WELL. SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? BUT WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING? AND LOOKS. MY PERSPECTIVE. IT LOOKS PRETTY NICE TOWN STAFF LACKS IT. THANK YOU SO NICE LOOKING PROJECT, SO I APPRECIATE APPRECIATE YOU. WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL GO AHEAD. AND UH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT? YES, WE HAVE. SOMEBODY ONLINE WITH THE CELL PHONE NUMBER ENDING WITH 5877. SO WILL YOU ASK THEM THEIR NAME? YES SO GOOD EVENING. WE HAVE WAY UNDERSTAND SOMEONE ONLINE CELL PHONE NUMBER ENDING FABRIC 77. IT'S UH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, IT'S FEEL FREE TO COMMENT. THEY HUNG UP. OKAY WE'LL GIVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES THERE IN CASE SOMEONE CALLS BACK IN. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE CHAMBER THIS EVENING? THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS. THIS ITEM. AND I GUESS DAVID DID WE HAVE ANY REQUEST FORMS FOR OR AGAINST EITHER WAY. WE'LL GIVE IT HERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE PLAY JEOPARDY MUSIC, I GUESS. BUT WHAT'S THE NORMAL AMOUNT OF TIME TO GIVE 30 SECONDS A MINUTE HERE? LET'S SEE IF THAT'S THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW THEY DIDN'T GET OKAY. NO ONE'S ON SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BUT PLEASE KNOW AFTER FOR ANYONE THAT MAY BE LISTENING, INCLUDING HERE IN THE CHAMBERS, THAT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, NOT THIS AUTUMN WILL GO TO COUNCIL. UH, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS. I BELIEVE SO THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AGAIN THAT POINT SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. I'LL TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENT.

ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. COMMISSIONER CHARLES I'LL LET YOU START IT OFF AND WE'LL ROLL DOWN. I THINK IT'S A GREAT USE OF THE PROPERTY. I THINK THE REQUEST IS APPROPRIATE AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE BUILDINGS THAT COME UP. I THINK IT'S GREAT, ESPECIALLY PROTECTING THAT PRESTON ENTRY. ALRIGHT OKAY , COMMISSIONER. NO CONCERNS AND I RESPECT THAT. WE'RE LEAVING A LOT OF THE NATURAL. UM LAND FLOW STILL THERE, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. NOTHING NO CONCERNS, AND LIKEWISE IF IT LOOKS LIKE A SOLID PROJECT, APPRECIATE IT AND WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK, SO WITH THAT, ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IN A SECOND. YOU ALREADY DID ONCE AGAIN PROVED TRUE. GARY DID NEVER THIS TIME. I WILL MAKE A MOTION ACTUALLY APPROVE AGENDA

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[8. Review actions taken by the Town Council and possibly direct Town Staff to schedule topic(s) for discussion at a future meeting.]

UH UM, ABOUT THE DRIVE THROUGH, SO JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT, AND YOU KNOW, WE JUST ACTED ON ONE. BUT UM, JUST KIND OF WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THAT , UM, SO REALLY, AT THE JULY 26TH. WE HAD A COUPLE OF, UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS. IF YOU RECALL, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE.

THE HOTEL LIMITED SERVICE HOTEL UM TERESA ON THAT THAT WAS APPROVED, OBVIOUSLY SUBJECT TO INCREASING LANDSCAPING AROUND THE POOL AND ADDED IN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE MASONRY IN THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. UM MOVING ON. YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE AMENDMENT FOR THE I BELIEVE THE WINDMILL HILL. UM, DRIVE THROUGH. UM THAT WAS APPROVED SEVEN. OH UM THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARING WE HAD WAS THE VICTORY AT FRONTIER IF YOU ALL RECALL, THEY SUBMITTED A REVISED SPECIFIC EAST PERMANENT PLAN. UM THEY ENLARGED THE BUILDING. AND SO THEY HAVE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. UM AS YOU CAN SEE IT AS THE FIRST MOTION 33 AND SECOND MOTION FOR TWO DID HE HAD APPROVED UM, THE ONE THAT YOU ALL REMAIN, REMEMBER? UM IS THE PROSPER FLATS? UM, MAKES USED, UM. PRESTON WIG AND OTHERS A COUPLE OF NAMES FOR IT, UM THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY UM RECOMMENDED BY STAFF BY FOR DENIAL, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY DENIED BY COUNSEL. SO I'M JUST KIND OF WANTED TO WALK THROUGH THAT. UM AND THEN, AS FAR AS FOR THE 89, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT I HAD IT ON HERE. UM, IT WAS JUST MORE OF THE FORMALITIES. UM YOU KNOW, ADOPTIONS OF THE ORDINANCES. ON THE 89 BUT KIND OF MOVING BACK TO THE 7 26. I'M GOING TO JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGHS. UM AND JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT? WE TALKED ABOUT THE WORK SESSION. SO REALLY JUST KIND OF TAKING A STEP BACK. UM YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE DEFINITION FOR RESTAURANT AND DRIVE TO USE ARE PERMITTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH CONDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. MM. SO THIS IS SORT OF OUR SCHEDULE OF USES THAT WE HAVE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE RESTAURANT AND THEN YOU SEE NUMBER 26 UNDER OFFICE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DOWNTOWN.

SO I'M SAYING THIS AGAIN, YOU NEED TO CONFORM TO OUR CONDITIONAL STANDARDS. SO WHAT ARE OUR CONDITIONAL STANDARDS? SO RESTAURANTS THAT DRIVE THROUGHS ARE PROMOTED ONLY IN RETAIL, COMMERCIAL AND COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR UPON APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC EAST PERMIT, WHICH MAKES SENSE BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE GET A DRIVE THROUGH IT COMES THROUGH A PNG AND COUNCIL. UM WE DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS FOR DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. YOU KNOW, WE ALSO LOOK AT PROTECTION OF YOU KNOW, THE SPEAKER BOX. I KNOW LIKE RAISING CANE'S HAS MUSIC, AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME OTHER RESTAURANTS. I HAVE USER MUSIC OR SOME SORT OF WHILE YOU'RE WAITING IN THE DRIVE THROUGH. UM WE DID TRY TO HAVE THAT AT LEAST. SOME SORT OF DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO SORT OF. THEY DON'T HEAR THAT ALL DAY. UM AND SO, UM AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL, UM, STANDARDS, WHICH ARE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER TREE. UM, IT'S THIS IS PRETTY MUCH SORT OF THE MATERIALS SHOULD NEED TO BE MAINTAINED. I MEAN, IT'S REALLY NOT TOO MUCH, BUT THIS IS SORT OF THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS FOR CONDITIONAL STANDARDS RIGHT NOW WITHIN THE TOWN PROSPER. UM I'M SORRY. IT'S FOR TRAFFIC AND SORT OF LOOKING AT THAT. WE REQUIRE FIVE STACKING SPACES. FROM THE FIRST WINDOW. UM WE DO REQUIRE ONE AFTER THE FINAL WINDOW, SO THAT WAY IF SOMEONE IS LEAVING, THERE'S SORT OF AN EXTRA SPACE. SO THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT ENCROACHING ON TO THE DRIVE, I'LL SO IT'S JUST SORT OF TO AVOID ACCIDENTS. AND THEN A LOT OF TIMES WE DO HAVE, UM AND ESCAPE LANE. UM THIS IS REALLY WE STARTED KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK IT'S HELPFUL IN CASE SOMEONE FORGETS. YOU KNOW THEIR WALLET OR I THINK THAT'S SORT OF THE

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WE'VE UPDATED THIS MAP WITH SOME OF THE LOGO. I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO CONFUSING WITH THE RED AND THE RED. THAT'S WITH THE BLACK. UM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO MORE FORMAL. JESUS NAVAS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CREATED. UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU KIND OF DIFFERENT AREAS WITHIN THE TIME TO PROSPER. AS YOU CAN TELL. THERE'S A LOT OF RED THERE. UM WE TRY TO KIND OF GO THROUGH EACH PD EACH REQUIREMENT. TYPICALLY MOST OF THEM DO ALLOW , UM OR DO YOU REQUIRE AN SCP? UM, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, BELIEVE THAT WAS A ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT WAS DONE. UH I'M NOT TOO SURE HOW LONG AGO BUT THAT WAS TO ADD ANY NEW, UM DRIVE THROUGH HIS REQUIRED AN S U P UM, SO AGAIN, WE JUST KIND OF HAVE WE HAD A COUPLE THAT WERE UNDER REVIEW, WHICH IS IN YELLOW. UM AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT INCLUDING DRIVE THROUGH, SUCH AS BANKS AND CAR WASHES, BECAUSE TYPICALLY THAT THAT'S SORT OF THE CONCERN AS WELL FOR TRAFFIC. WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE LANES. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT AS INTENSE AS DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT, BUT WE STILL WANT IT. I FELT LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE STILL BEEN INCLUDED, UM AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SORT OF OUR MAIN GATEWAY THROUGH 80 AND THE TOLLWAY. UM YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF INSIDERS REQUIRES SCP REQUIRES SCP. UM AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND THIS IS KIND OF FOLLOWING UM, YOU KNOW, THE. THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST AND THEN LOOKING AT OUR AT OUR NORTHEAST QUARTER. UM WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND WE NOTICED THAT A LOT OF THEM REQUIRE CPS. THAT WAS SORT OF THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO WORK SESSION AND SORT OF GET THAT FEEDBACK. UM THIS IS JUST SORT OF AN OVERVIEW THAT WE HAD. WE HAD 20 EXISTING RESTAURANTS THAT DRIVE THROUGH FOR IN CAPS. AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL 14 APPROVED. UM IT'S ABOUT 34 38 POTENTIAL ARE PRETTY MUCH DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS STARTED BROKE IT DOWN TO PRESTON ROAD USED TO 80 AND AGAIN, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THIS MAP WITH YOU AND MORE FORMAL ONE IS COMING. BUT AND SO KIND OF BACK TO THE WHOLE STATEMENT OF, YOU KNOW, WE REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ALL DRIVERS.

THEY'RE KIND OF ANALYZING THAT MAP. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PDS THAT HAVE THE CANNOT BE LOCATED ON THE SAME LOT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, UM I BELIEVE THE WEST SIDE AND ALSO PRESTON WORK. UM HAD SOME LANGUAGE LIKE THAT IN THE IN THE PD. THERE'S EVEN A PD THAT TALKS ABOUT A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE. UM SO AGAIN. WE WERE SOME POLICIES, BUT IT'S NOT IN OUR REGULAR REQUIREMENTS.

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AND MAYBE TRYING TO BUFF THAT UP A LITTLE BIT. SO THAT WAY YOU DON'T SEE, UM ANY OF THE REQUIRED OR ANY OF THE DRIVE THRU AND, UH, THERE'S A TRYING TO FIND THE LOCATION. BUT THERE WAS A STARBUCKS THAT I WENT TO THAT. I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY IN FRISCO THAT HAS THESE HUGE TREES ARE JUST COMPLETELY SCREEN THE DRIVE THROUGH ANY KIND OF FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN. UM, UM I JUST I JUST FELT KIND OF INTERESTING. I WAS COMPLETELY HIDING THAT, UM SO SOMETHING LOOKING AT THAT LOOKING AT THE STAFF AND SAYING CONCRETE UM POTENTIALLY EVEN LOOKING AT AMENDING THE ZONING ORGANS TO REQUIRE AS UPS FOR, UM CAR WASHES AND BANKS WITH DRIVE THROUGHS. UM LET'S SEE HERE. UM LIMIT TO THE NUMBER OF DEVELOPER TRIED THROUGHS DUE IN LARGE DEVELOPMENTS. WE TALKED ABOUT INCREASING SPACING REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN EGRESS AND INGRESS POINTS JUST AGAIN. MORE OF A TRAFFIC THING. UM AND THEN POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT LIMITING THEM ON CERTAIN STREETS. YOU KNOW, MAYBE PRESTON OR 3 80. UM YEAH, THESE ARE ALL JUST RECOMMENDATIONS, AS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, MENTIONED AS A ITEMS PREVIOUSLY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES ANY OF THESE THINGS TODAY. SO IF SOMEONE COMES IN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, WE JUST HAVE THE SCP AND THEN ALL THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE. BUT AGAIN, I

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APPRECIATE THAT UPDATE. VERY THOROUGH. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT SONY ORDINANCE COMING BACK TO US ON THIS? WHEN DO YOU THINK, UM, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UM I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO SORT OF KICK OFF THE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS WITH INTERNAL STAFF. UM I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE FOR YOU, AND I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE REALLY SOON. UM BUT, UM, YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THE TIME LATER. 90 DAYS, THOUGH, IS POTENTIALLY AGAIN. WE'RE. WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT IT AND THEN START INITIALLY WE WANT TO. WE WANT TO ALSO LOOK AT OUR LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE AND SEEING IF POTENTIALLY ANY THINGS WE NEED TO UPDATE AS WELL. AND THEN THERE'S CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE DNT LANDSCAPE AS WELL. UM JUST COMING IN AS SEPARATE ITEMS SORT OF DO ONE FOR AND THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE SOME TIME, MAYBE ADDITIONAL MORE THAN THE 90 DAYS. POTENTIALLY LOTS OF MOVING PIECES. IS THERE GONNA BE A TIME FOR ANY? I KNOW THESE WORK SESSIONS EMAIL WILL OBVIOUSLY BE CAREFUL. WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER AND FORM A QUORUM AND SOME OF THESE THINGS, SO I JUST WONDER IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A TIME FOR US TO WEIGH IN.

REASON BEING OF THIS IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING. SO I NEED YOUR OFFICE. REMOVE MYSELF KIND OF VOTE ON IT. BUT I HAVE SEVERAL THOUGHTS TO CONSIDER THE OTHER THING. MINDFUL AS WE LOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE, THERE'S A LOT OF EVOLUTION'S COMING TO THE DROUGHT THROUGH SPACE TECHNOLOGY. WE'RE GOING TO A LOT MORE THAN ARE NOW COVERED. SO YOU HAVE AN AWNING COMPONENT THAT SOME FOLKS ALREADY DO. AWNINGS THAT ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WHO'S OWNING ORGANS TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE ACTUALLY OUTSIDE TAKING ORDERS. PUBLIC SAFETY THING THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO LOOK AT YOUR NOW LOOKING AT THINGS FROM ONE LINE TO 2 TO 3 LANES, LOOKING AT SOME THAT ARE DOING LANES ON BOTH SIDES, AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS. WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY REQUIRING THEY WILL ALLOW THESE FOLKS TO OPERATE AT A FASTER CAPACITY AND MOVE TRAFFIC ACTUALLY FASHION WHICH WOULD HELP VERSUS HURT. THERE'S ALSO THE ARGUMENT OF OIL DRIVE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SERVE MORE THAN AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL PARKING SPOT.

THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS FOR US TO LOOK AT ALSO SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM PARKING LOTS AND DRIVE THROUGH AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS IT'S VERY MUCH MORE TOPIC IN THE RESTAURANT SPACE, GIVEN EVERYTHING, POST PANDEMIC, SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF NOT JUST CURRENT STATE FOR EXISTING FLEET FUTURE STATE, BUT ALSO EVOLUTION TO SOMEBODY'S AS WELL. SO I'M GLAD TO CHAT ABOUT THAT OFFLINE AND BE CAREFUL THE QUORUM SESSION TO DISCUSS IT, BUT YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I WOULD SAY, I MEAN TO ANYONE IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, CONCERNS OR ANY INFORMATION, PLEASE PASS THAT ON AND AGAIN. WE'RE WE'RE RIGHT NOW, JUST STARTING TO SORT OF GET TOGETHER AND KIND OF CREATE MAYBE A DRAFT VERSION OF WHAT WE THINK AND YOU KNOW, WE MAY LOOK AT YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO COUNCIL AND ANOTHER WORK SESSION. UM OR, YOU KNOW AGAIN. I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR INCLUDED, AND I YOU KNOW THE FEEDBACK THAT I JUST RECEIVED ON ON BOTH YOUR SIDE ABOUT THE ESCAPE PLANE IS GREAT, SO I CONTINUED TO ENCOURAGE THAT. SOT ASSUMING YOU GET IT, UM FINALIZED THE PROCESS. THEN IT COMES HERE. TO BE REVIEWED AND THEN SOMETHING TO TOMMY'S POINT . HE GETS THE OPPORTUNITY WE ALL GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPINE ON THE FINAL DRAFT OR DRAFT. AND THEN GIVE BACK FEEDBACK, AND THEN THEY'RE APPROVE IT OR SO JUST EDIT? YES JUST LIKE WHAT WE DID IF YOU'LL RECALL THE FOOD PANTRY ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, WE NEED TO GO THROUGH A PNG AS PUBLIC HEARING WILL GET COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE WOULD TAKE IN YOUR INPUT AND THEN TAKE IT ONTO COUNCIL AND HAVE HIM DISCUSS. OKAY. I THOUGHT SO BUT IS SITTING OVER THERE. SURE IT'S REQUIRED FOR ANY ZONING AMENDMENT. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO PUBLIC INTEREST LIKE A ZONING CHANGE. SORRY. HMM JUST SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE NEXT ONE. WE HAVE THE FULL STAFF. AND I WASN'T SURE DOUG MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT JUST ENSURING THAT ALONG WITH THE THINGS THAT WE PASS THAT THE ADDITIONAL CARRY OUTS ARE CARRIED TO COUNSEL AS WELL, I

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BUT YOU KNOW FOR ME PERSONALLY, AND I THINK IN THAT MEETING I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BROUGHT UP.

I HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP. IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEM IN THE SAME WAY IT WAS BROUGHT TO US. AND LUCKILY THEY SAW WHAT WE SAW AND MADE THE SAME ADJUSTMENTS. OTHERWISE THAT THOSE ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE BEEN PASSED AS IS AND WE WOULD HAVE, THEN HAD TO COME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO UNDO WHAT WAS ALREADY DONE. SO THAT'S JUST A CONCERN OF MINE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT WE WERE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE THINGS ARE GOING DIRECTLY TO COUNSEL, AS IF, AS IS AND ANY CAVEATS OR ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT WE REQUEST TO THESE ORDINANCES OR ANY OF THESE, UM, REQUEST ARE NOT BEING CARRIED. THEN WE SHOULD JUST BE BINARY. APPROVE IT OR YOU DON'T THAT WOULD THEN BE ARE CHARGED WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, SO IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANT US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND, UM INTO TO EITHER GIVEN ME THE BE GIVEN THE DIRECTION THAT NO CAVEATS. EITHER YOU APPROVE IT OR YOU DON'T OR WE WILL NOT ONLY TAKE THE CARRIERS, BUT WE NEED TO DISCUSS HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE CARRIED TO COUNSEL. I THINK SOME SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WATCH. UM I KNOW. COUNCILMAN BARTLEY SOMETIMES WATCHES. UM SO, YOU KNOW. LUCKILY THEY DO CATCH THE GIST OF SOME OF THE CONVERSATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S RELIABLE, MOVING FORWARD, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT. I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK THROUGH IT WHEN WE HAVE THE FULL SET OF COMMISSIONERS. UM YEAH, SO AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE IF THAT WASN'T UH UM. MENTIONED OR THERE WAS SOMETHING MENTIONED ON THE FOOD PANTRY. I THINK REALLY FOR SO WHAT THE PROCESS IS TODAY AND I'LL LET YOU I'LL KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH. SO TYPICALLY, UM, ANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CONDITIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE MADE, UM WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL PRESENT TO COUNSEL WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDED. AND THEN WHAT ? PNG RECOMMENDED ALREADY A PROJECT THAT THERE WAS MISCOMMUNICATION AND ALL THE TIMES ALSO, UM OBVIOUSLY, DURING THE TRANSITION OF STAFF, AND IT WAS IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEARLY DEFINED WHEN YOU DO RAISE YOUR HAND. AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU TO RAISE YOUR HAND ALL THE WAY UP.

BUT JUST DEFINING WHAT CONDITIONS BECAUSE WHAT WE NORMALLY DO IS WELL WE WILL WATCH THE AUDIO WE LOOK AT OUR NOTES. WE WATCH THE AUDIO AND SO AGAIN. I APOLOGIZE IF THERE IS AN ANYTHING ON THAT, BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE MOTIONS CLEAR AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CONVEY. SO THAT WAY WE'RE RIDING DOWNLOADS. YOU KNOW, OUR OUR STAFF IS AROUND DOWNLOADS. BUT AGAIN, UM THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO WILL HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF. WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM WHAT PAINS HE HAD. UM AND THEN COUNSEL GET ALL THAT INFORMATION. SOME.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE MOTION. SOME OF THOSE CHANGES WHEN WE DID THAT, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP SO DAVID. WHAT'S UH, WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING AND WHAT'S THE AGENDA? LOOK BACK BECAUSE THIS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING STILL YET IN AUGUST? NO, I BELIEVE THE NEXT ONE. UM CHECK IN COUNTER BUT CANCELED THE SECOND. WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS AMOUNT THAT IT NO, NO, I THINK WE'RE DONE FOR AUGUST. I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST OF SEPTEMBER 6TH SEPTEMBER SIX SOUNDS AND CAN CONFIRM THAT WITH US, BUT UM, WE. WE HAVEN'T A RECENT MIDDLE NEXT WEEK, SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN IDEA. AND NOW THERE'S A COUPLE OF ZONING SOME BIG ZONING OUT THERE THAT ARE COMING BACK FROM THAT WERE FROM 2020 OR 2021, SO THEY ARE COMING BACK. UM AND THEN WE ARE BELIEVE GETTING A COUPLE OF NEW ZONING REQUESTS COMING IN FOR ON THE NEWS ON THE NEWS OF MIDDLE WHICH IS GOING ON MY DAY, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, HOPEFULLY MAYBE A COUPLE OF THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND OF COURSE WE WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW. THE NEXT MEETING WAS SIX SEPTEMBER SEPTEMBER SIX, OKAY, I'LL PROBABLY MISS THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF MAKING, YOU KNOW. APOLOGIZE SO WAS THE 2ND AUGUST MEETING. JUST CANCELED

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NO FOR FOCUSING. ESSENTIALLY THEY CAN GO ONLINE REASON I ASK THAT PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME IS THAT I'M GOING TO APPLY TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMITTEE. IS THERE A WIDE INTEREST? ARE YOU GETTING A HANDFUL ARE GETTING A LOT WORSE BELIEVE I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN A HANDFUL OF APPLICATIONS. UM AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE GETTING A COUPLE OF THEM. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S I'M SURE I'M IN THE TOWN SECRETARIATS PROBABLY HAS INFORMATION AND, UM, I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOUR IF THAT'S SOMETHING BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE DO HAVE IT PUBLISHED AND WE HAVE GOTTEN APPLICATIONS FOR IT FOR ANY FOR ANY PARKS AND RECS FOR EVERYBODY. AND THEN PAUL.

WELCOME TO THE TEAM. CONGRATULATIONS IS THERE ARE YOU GUYS FULLY? WE'RE STILL WE'RE STILL THERE'S STILL ONE MORE. WE'RE SUBMITTING THE DIRECTOR. BUT AS FAR AS WE'RE PLANNING, WE'RE FULL. UM IT'S JUST REALLY US THREE BETTER THAN ONE LITTLE DARK DURING THAT TIME. GREAT JOB, ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY. IT'S THE LAST ONE. I PROMISE. I'M GONNA STOP. DID I MISS THE DISCUSSED FIRST STREET NAME CHANGES YOU MENTION THAT DID YOU DID NOT, UM, SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED SENORA AN EMAIL WITH THE MAP SO DO WE HAVE ANY THINK AT THE VERY END THERE'S A SO THERE WAS POTENTIALLY. UM OR WE'VE RECEIVED GUIDANCE ON PUSHING FORWARD ON FIRST STREET. UM. I ALWAYS GET CONFUSED WHERE IT CHANGES. I THINK IT CHANGES SOMEWHERE AROUND HERE. UM FIRST YEAR CHANGES INTO FISH TRAP, SO WE WANT TO I'M SORRY. LITTLE BIT BEFORE TWO. OKAY SO IT'S PROBABLY AT THE SPIN. IT'S LIKE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN IT KIND OF CURVES A LITTLE. UM AND SO REALLY, THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT IS TO KIND OF MAKE THAT CONSECUTIVE ARE SORT OF CONFORMING TO YOU FIRST STREET AND KIND OF RUNNING ALL THE WAY.

UM THERE'S SOME INFORMATION THAT WE DID THAT PAMELA WORKED ON. THERE'S A SCHOOL. THERE'S BUSINESSES ALL ALONG THERE, SO UM IT IS GOING TO BE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, BUT I THINK SORT OF TO AVOID CONFUSING IT AND, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND FIRE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO SORT OF HAVE IT FOLLOWING FIRST STREET. AND SO THAT WAS DISCUSSED RIGHT BEFORE THE DRIVE THROUGH WORK SESSION AND THAT WAS GIVEN SOME DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT CURRENT FIRST STREET WILL REMAIN JUST THE BALANCE OF FIRST RATE FOR THE TOWN. BOUNDARIES WILL CHANGE THE FIRST STREET FISH TRAP TO FIRST STREAM DOWN SO THE BECAUSE WE DID A POLL BECAUSE WE GOT TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO PAUL AND WINDSONG RANCH, AND WE HAD, LIKE 230 PEOPLE SAYING THEY DIDN'T CARE.

CHANGE THE NAME BECAUSE IT RUNS IN THERE, BUT WE DID SAY IT WAS GOING TO. WE THOUGHT IT MAY BE MORE LOGICAL END TO TERMINATE FIRST STREET. AT 13 85 SORRY I WAS GETTING PLEASE TALK LOUDER.

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ALRIGHT I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR HARRIS. WE HAVE A SECOND. I'M HAPPY HERE. I WILL 2ND 2ND FROM COMMISSIONER VAN WOLF TO ADJOURN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES FOR 20. WE ARE ADJOURNED . 7 22 PM

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